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- NoahVail, on 10/12/2007, -23/+213We are presently living in a police state. Need any more proof?
- yoda715, on 10/12/2007, -13/+132Nope, you sure don't need anymore evidence. We are becoming more and more of a police state everyday. We have both sides of the political parties to thank for that. Next thing you know they will start deleting comments like these.
- Paktu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+95"Police also denied that they told Cruze he was breaking the law with his cell phone."
Then why the ***** did you arrest him? - Paktu, on 10/12/2007, -9/+89@yoda715
I wholeheartedly agree. We need to do more to restrict the power of both the police and the gov237!ydzcrsg_...........NO CARRIER - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+75I was threaten with arrest at a protest for taking the picture of a police offier taking a picture of me.
I wasnt even involved in the protest, i had just wandered into it
The cop actually said i had better put down that damn camera or i would ***** regret it and he was taking my picture.
No iit is more than a few stupid cops. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+71how about, in protest, we all start taking pictures of police with our phones
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+68Probably for resisting arrest.. i love when they arrest people for that and no other charge,
"you were arrested for resisting arrest", cop
"but what arrest was i resisting", victim
"You were resisting arrest when i was arresting you for resisting arrest",cop - Royall, on 10/12/2007, -2/+64It's not just cops "these days". It's the ages old problem of "who watches the watchmen?"
When the people are at the mercy of the government instead of it being the other way around, you know you're in big trouble. - IHaveIssues, on 10/12/2007, -6/+63I swear they are monitoring these posts. Just yesterday I saw a policeman [Post edited by moderator 31-07-2006]
- phreel0aderr, on 10/12/2007, -2/+55i agree with this, I live in Florida so i will probably be tazered. Don't worry if i am you better believe it will be up on digg.
- MioTheGreat, on 10/12/2007, -10/+53"At least I can sleep at night."
You mean they aren't waking you up at 3AM for the daily mandatory allegience-to-the-all-knowing-and-wise-overlord pledge yet? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+38This is the same anywhere really... The Police get pissed if you whip out a camera at any kind of scene. A few months ago my friend ran a motorcyclist over (the motorcycle driver was at fault), and the police threatened my friend with arrest if he didnt put his camera phone away.
And this is in CANADA - ninti, on 10/12/2007, -6/+44"Bring on the negative diggs. At least I can sleep at night."
Yep, ignorance is bliss. - mouseclone, on 10/12/2007, -6/+43What the hell is wrong with cops these days. I just read another artical about cops being positive for drug test. WTF amn
- evilTak, on 10/12/2007, -1/+36Thank you AT&T.
- lane.montgomery, on 10/12/2007, -2/+37http://cops.screwed.us
email them to me at lane.montgomery+cops@gmail.com
I'll have it up soon. - Paul, on 10/12/2007, -4/+38@Royall
WE DO! It's our job.
Our hippie non participating parents did a crappy job by letting the government take over everything. They've given up all of our freedoms for a small amount of security. It is our responsibility to take them back. I hope we have the guts and don't all turn into lazy religious brain washed slobs.
--the US needs a pirate party or at least some organized group of people that get it.
Paul - bitcloud, on 10/12/2007, -11/+44Fascists.
Take back your country - sh0k, on 10/12/2007, -1/+34I have never been aided by a police officer. Only harassed.
I was at the HOPE 6 con in NYC last week. One kid (just about 17 years old, i think) was drinking a Bawls soda. A cop walked up and asked him why he was drinking an alcoholic beverage outside, and before the kid could respond that Bawls contains no alcohol, the cop asked for an ID. So the kid pulls out his ID and holds it eye-level to the cop in a very non-threatening way, and the cop grabs his wrist and cuffs him. Kid was detained in a cop car for 10 minutes before being released with a court date for "disorderly conduct." So now, he has to find a way back to NYC for the court date, or have a bench warrant issued for his arrest.
Some system. - spurtle, on 10/12/2007, -9/+40"Bring on the negative diggs. At least I can sleep at night."
Yeah, until they break down your door, shove you face to the ground, then throw you in a cold prison cell for about a day or two before they realized they got the wrong house. - missflibbles, on 10/12/2007, -1/+30I agree one hundred percent. Quick, somebody give us a website where we can all post our pictures!
- Qenton, on 10/12/2007, -0/+29Oh ease up. Just everyone start taking pictures of Cops, whenever and wherever you are.
It is legal and if they harass make you take a picture of there badge number. Then have lots of fun contacting the ACLU and local news stations and digg they will be more than happy to harass them back. Shoot, talk to city hall if you have a problem they will probably join you in harassing the police, they are usually at odds with problematic police departments too.
Of course there is the other tactic. Actually being nice to the officer. There jobs are pretty hard and they don't get much thanks. Probably 99% of people who get into situations like this are being jerks anyway, the other 1% are the bad cops who should be fired. But still take the pictures it is a good test to find the bad cops. - tokyomonster, on 10/12/2007, -2/+30Is that guys name seriously Harry Hairston?
- Ottergoose, on 10/12/2007, -0/+27What happened to the concept of "reasonable expectation of privacy?" I was under the impression that if you're in a public area, you can take pictures of whatever the hell you want, so long as the subject doesn't have a reasonable expectation of privacy. For example, taking pictures of your neighbor through their fence would be a no-no, but if they're out taking a walk on a public sidewalk, take all of the pictures you want. If police are out in public, you ought to be able to take all of the pictures you want.
- edrift101, on 10/12/2007, -2/+28Rest assured that all internet activity is being monitored. For your safety, of course.
- sik0fewl, on 10/12/2007, -6/+32> who watches the watchmen?
I dunno.. Coast Guard? - ninti, on 10/12/2007, -2/+27"Show me a single case where that happened. Because I know that there is no judge that would let that go."
It happens all the time. Most of the time it never makes it to a judge, it's just a police harassment tactic, and the almost always get away with it. - ateoto, on 10/12/2007, -1/+25...and hope your vote doesn't get tampered with!
- Paktu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21Asking him to delete the pictures would have been a surprisingly effective alternative, I suspect.
- bexy4506, on 10/12/2007, -0/+20With all the crime in Philadelphia, a person is being arrested for taking a picture? What are the cops thinking? A guy gets stabbed a couple blocks away from where I go to school and a guy gets arrested for taking a picture. I feel real safe.
- halleyscomet, on 10/12/2007, -6/+25For a run down of our eroding rights and the growing Police abuse, see the Radio Program, "Bad Cop, No Donut" broadcast out of CKLN
http://nodonut.egoweblog.com/
Rights? Protections under the law? They're a GREAT fiction for keeping the masses in check. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+21They will be kicking in our doors with riot gear and black ski masks to confiscate our firearms by the end of the decade. I would bet my life on it.
A great movie by Arron Russo is coming out about this sort of thing:
http://www.freedomtofascism.com/
Another great link http://www.infowars.com - vjgx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17If the cops didn't see him taking the picture, would it still be "obstruction of investigation"? I think not.
I really do think that the power of some police officers should be more restricted -- in my opinion, this is a violation of amendments. - WalkerBurgin, on 10/12/2007, -7/+241984 anyone?
- firekrakcer, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20Probably some power drunk cop that didn't want his picture taken.
I hate those guys. - edrift101, on 10/12/2007, -4/+20Sure thing. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to connect the dots at this point. Bush plans to declare Martial Law to maintain and expand his power even further. Goodbye Democracy - it was fun while it lasted.
Here's the bill:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060728/ap_on_go_pr_wh/detainee_rights
And the FEMA sites (some of Bush's executive orders as well):
http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/FEMA-Concentration-Camps3sep04.htm - r0ck3tm4nn, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18I don't know how a ***** quality picture is going to obstruct an investigation.
- buba447, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18There is another little movie that comes out on dvd tommorow about this sort of thing. V for vendetta.
- there, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15Just a thought.
Maybe why government is so powerful is because people are so paranoid of each other they keep advocating larger police forces ... larger militaries... more surveillance. (btw- Not the hippies that suggested that)
You can't have your cake and eat it to. That old Ben Franklin quote about security versus liberty weren't just random words. - snoble, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16Hey, maybe the police officers have an explanation that was not in the article. If you are curious you should feel free to contact them (the 35th district police) at
215.686-3350
215.686-3351
FAX.924-9540 .
Taken from http://www.ppdonline.org/hq_condistricts.php
You can always say that you are looking for a comment for a story you are writing for a blog. Remember skype is free. - jjesusfreak01, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17If that was really the case, dont you think he would do it?
Police: Sir, we have undercover agents involved in this raid. We would appreciate it if you delete the pictures for us, Thanks :)
Man: Well, thanks for telling me, ill delete them right away :) - thesparrowband, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14not much respect involved in this. or trust. or honor. the officer is not my vision of what an officer should be
- ninti, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15"I invite you to travel to Beijing, renounce your U.S. Citizenship, and indulge yourself in the world of a REAL "police state"."
Ah yes, the old Relative Privation fallacy. So because the U.S. isn't as far down the road to facism as China, then that makes it OK? Really, do we really want to compare ourselves to China to make this kind of thing seem acceptable? It's take same argument as "It's fine if I killed someone, because I am still not as bad as a mass murderer", and really just makes you look like a moron. - conwayblue, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13I was pulled over one night after having 2 beers over the course of 3 hours. I willingly submitted to all their ***** DUI test. Passed all with flying colors. Then he breaks out the field breathalyzer on me, which I again willingly comply. The bitch ass cop then cuffs me and says he is arresting me for DUI but will not tell me what I have blown. At the station, on the official breathalyzer I blow a 0.02. Hardly even enough to register. He then proceeds to tell me that the calibration of the field breathalyzer always produces much higher results than the official breathalyzer machine at the station. Then he proceeds to give me a public intox ticket. Now how in the ***** am I too drunk to be in public but perfectly sober enough to drive. I contacted several lawyers who all basically told me that I have no leg to stand on. The cops can give public intox tickets with no evidence whatsoever and I would have no chance of beating it. In the end the ticket cost me $250 and the tow cost me another $150. Thanks a lot cops, I'll never support you. I'll never give you a dime. I'll never give you the benefit of doubt. ***** off and die.
- thesparrowband, on 10/12/2007, -9/+22Not to validate what the police did, but maybe there were undercover Narcs involved in the drug raid/arrest/whatever, and they overreacted trying to protect their ID. I think there's more to this story.
- spyrochaete, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13America already has the biggest percentage of population in jail. Maybe they should build institutions for the innocent, put all the Nintendos in there, and let all the prisoners out.
Why air condition the building when you can wear an air conditioned shirt? - bmh129, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15This IS an example of police state, though it is clearly against the Constitution, the police may be following clearly unconstitutional laws that have not yet been judicially reviewed. Unfortunately, police take advantage of their own "ignorance," something civilians aren't allowed to do. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignorantia_legis_non_excusat
Another thing the police did which is a clear double standard (and violation of equal protection) is lie to Cruz and his family. Civilians are not allowed to lie to police, even when not under oath. It is a crime punishable with imprisonment; just ask Martha Stewart--she was not convicted of insider trading, not of lying to investigators.
Wake up, people. We are allowing ourselves to be oppressed, and Dubya is not the instigator (although he is "The Decider"). Tweedledee AND Tweedledum are responsible for this predicament. - mav451, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13As much as I'd like to believe that story you just made up--I can't. If you really have to think hard to believe the police's side...you gotta start having some doubts. I have far too many to believe the cops.
- smackfumaster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11phree,
"i agree with this, I live in Florida so i will probably be tazered. Don't worry if i am you better believe it will be up on digg."
Thanks for the funniest laugh of my day! You rock! - idonthack, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Pirate Party of the United States?
Here ya go http://www.pirate-party.us/ -
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