What is Digg?204 Comments
- wjw75, on 10/12/2007, -34/+100Awesome? Oh please. Nothing more than pithy, self-indulgent musings. I'll bet a large part of her enjoyed revealing that story to the internet - not only does it serve a certain catharsis, it allows her to revel in telling a tale of how she was popular in high school.
It's like a person telling a story about a time they refused a begger some change, despite being very wealthy. Do you think that story is actually about genuine remorse, or could it be just a vehicle for this person to gloat about their riches, and lounge in the extravegance of self-pity?
In case you haven't read the article, let me save you some time:
"Oh everyone listen to me - I was nasty in high school but I feel bad about it, doesn't it make me ever so deep and insightful?"
Or in her own words:
"I’m just like you, only I’m interesting and my life isn’t devoid of meaning" - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -18/+76shut up. she's a ***** for doing it. not a hero for admitting it.
- boredinoc, on 10/12/2007, -10/+62"My greatest fear is that John’s dry observations about my character still hold true today."
Let's see, the tagline of your blog is "I’m just like you, only I’m interesting and my life isn’t devoid of meaning".
That pretty much answers the question right there..... - Winters, on 10/12/2007, -11/+48I've never heard of her before this, so all I have to go on is what I read there.
Anyway she sounds like a horrible person. Then and now. If you really read it, it sounds like she hasn't learned much from the experience.
"Blah blah blah. My biggest flaw is that I don't know how to manage my awesomeness. Feeling bad about this flaw is proof of how awesome I am. I rule."
Uhh yea, whatever. - Lokix, on 10/12/2007, -2/+36In highschool I was just like "John," and there was more than one occasion that went similar to this one. I eventually gave up even trying. To this day, because of people treating me like this I still feel that I will probably goto my grave alone, regardless of what people tell me.
I don't want to hate on V, but part of me feels good that she still feels bad. She has know idea what it is like to be in "John"'s place. - dggeek, on 10/12/2007, -6/+34It's interesting that she talks about a web page that blasts a kid for being nice, and here we are on digg, blasting away at her. I'm sure she didn't ask to be promoted to the front page. And I'm sure she doesn't care what you think about her blog.
But if it makes you feel like you're higher on the pecking order by putting down someone's stories... whatever inflates your ego. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+27not to mention that John's description was decidedly brief and gentle in her account. *****, I did some mean things to people and hate myself for it. She's proud because she has the intellectual fortitude (read arrogance) to unveil her inadequacies for the world to see... too bad she only hopes to benefit from them, the same way she did when she laughed with her friends at that poor guy. Only now she can appear to be humble, and self-examining, rather than cool.
what a ***** whore. - mamabeans, on 10/12/2007, -6/+29Sorry, this is just one more notch against V in my opinion. Glad what she did still bothers her, it should.
- KidVicious, on 10/12/2007, -3/+25I just don't like her blog because of the condescending attitude she exhibits in every post.
- menuka, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22Very dramatic: "...at the most innocent and helpless beings on Earth. Children." If this were a movie, that would be a cue for swelling music.
If I'm not mistaken, Amalah & Sweetney are the mothers, not the children. If you want to make a point, don't misinterpret things to suit your point of view. Don't use obviously dramatic & emotional language that don't actually make any point.
I've read those VA posts you are referring to. Her opinion is that these women are exploiting their kids' childhoods for blog fodder so they can make money. If you have an alternative point of view, people would be happy to hear it I'm sure. But you actually have to have one. Address the central issue, don't be the noughties version of a woman having vapours. - scabbers, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19She and her friends and the rest of the school were just lucky he wasn't into videogames!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19You should be scorning her. She never once mentioned that she apologized to him.
- Jammypac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17Hah - who is this broad? And why did I just spend 45 seconds of my life reading her cybermusings? Everything I hate in a blog: faux-introspective navel-gazing. Sheesh.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+22You shouldn't be dugg down for saying that. You're absolutely right, she was a cold heartless bitch and I, for one, hope she goes to her grave with regret.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19"I’m just like you, only I’m interesting and my life isn’t devoid of meaning"
What a stupid ***** bitch. Her tagline on the blog says it all. - Ravenlock, on 10/12/2007, -13/+28I have to say I'm mildly amused at the people who are treating her with precisely the superior attitude she's talking about in her post. "High school is really the last thing I want to read about..... How old is she anyways???" ...Does it matter? The older she is, the more impressive it is that the note he gave her impacted her that long.
Regardless, assuming that she's being honest - which I see no reason not to assume - she's opening up a painful chapter of her memory and sharing it, and people are perfectly willing to rip into her for it.
Kind of proves her point, doesn't it. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16Don't worry , V... your life matters in the sense that the monthly fees you pay for your domain contribute to the economy,.
- barius, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14If she were truely sorry she wouldn't be posting this on her blog, she would look up John and deliver an apology privately.
- engtech, on 10/12/2007, -16/+30I wonder if V is ever going to try and get a book deal? I've read a couple of "bloggers-turned-writers" (Mil Millington, Belle du Jour) and she's better than all of them.
- Klowner, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13Ohhh, I see what you did there, very nice! *golf clap*
- theotherbastard, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Yep, exposing herself to the whole internet even though none of us really know who she is and most people she knows probably don't read her blog.
If she had come level with John face to face and admit, in all sincerity, and apologize, then we'll talk about her courage.
(See, its just as easy for me to be "courageous" in flaming her when no one knows who I am!) - pete83, on 10/12/2007, -17/+29wjw75, it's a shame you're being dugg down. You've analyzed the situation perfectly.
- JesusFaction, on 10/12/2007, -10/+21moral of the story: women are mean bitches
(especially in groups) - eclipseyue, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11I only wish to address one thing that you said.
"If VA wants to show us the mistakes she's made, why go back to a time when most people are young and stupid and also making forgivable mistakes? VA, tell us about the mistakes you made last year, the year before. These more recent mistakes are the ones that make you who you are today, not something you did when you were an adolescent."
I have to say something about this. Reading this, as an adolescent myself, makes it seem like any mistakes I've made during these times won't amount for anything or change me in any way. I have to disagree vehemently. I've made mistakes and they haven in turn, taught me and firmed more of my own personal beliefs. Does that mean that once I hit whatever age they become obsolete, and 'forgivable'? What mistakes, when you are older, are not forgivable? I can see how one can not forgive someone for something such as murder or rape. The way you wrote your statement however doesn't seem to imply any mistakes as big as those. I may only be 18 but I don't see why at this, or any other, age past experiences can't continue to shape who I will be 20-30 years from now. - slonkak, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14I totally agree, considering I was in the position of John more than once in my life. It's not fun.
- boredinoc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10I think it's entertaining that so many people here defend V considering she probably wouldn't be bothered to cross the street to piss on you if you were on fire.....
- tHePeOPle, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14right on coldstatue. If she really felt bad she'd track poor John down and give him a blowjob.
- Klowner, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9"The weaker sex" my ass, girls can be gut-wrenching heartless monsters with seemingly little effort. Just reading this blog post was frustrating to say the least.
- CiXeL, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11wow youre a monster
i cant say ive done anything so cruel
ive generally lived a good life and take pride in that - sarah4554, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Just me but I tend to think of puppies as.. "the most innocent and helpless beings on Earth." Now, I would definitely stop reading if she made fun of puppies!
- marsfield, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Amazing how many ppl like *****
- JavertHolmes, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10How to avoid being a part of this story:
A) There's a group of men out there that see a desirable woman out there and want to do nothing more beyond doing what it takes to ***** them.
B) There's a group of women out there that see men desiring them and want to do nothing more beyond having as many of them at their beck and call/receiving gifts from them without having to ***** them.
C) There's a group of people out there just looking for a reasonable relationship without all the headaches/games.
Ignoring *****/heterosexuality, if you're part of A), play with group B). If you're part of B), play with group A). If you're part of C), play with group C). If you don't know what group you're in, ask a friend, they'll tell you in a heartbeat. If you don't know what group the other person's in, you're not being honest with yourself. - brstilson, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Looks to me like that John guy was quite an idiot. A lot of us make mistakes like that growing up. We thought love was like how it was in the movies, and that all you had to do was buy her presents and you were in. V was the force of the real world knocking him back on his ass. She was a deep emotional scar that he needed to develop. She taught him a hard life lesson, and lesson that he undoubtedly learned very well. Women need to respect a man to be attracted to them. Pandering to their every whim, buying gifts at awkward moments, only serves to tear down that respect.
- transeunte, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9No need to suck her dick, though.
- EagleRufio, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Oh and btw, it doesnt take courage to write this and put it on the web. It takes courage to stand up to her stupid friends or personally apologize to ths kid. This was a cop out make her self feel better. Don't encourage her she doesnt deserve it. And no I'm not writting this to make myself feel better. I'm writing this because what she did was wrong and she needs to know it.
- aschmidty, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9VA could have written a whiney little piece about how those women exploit small children who are unable to give informed consent to have their privacy shattered for profit. No-one would have read it or taken notice. It was pretty obvious that her posts weren't designed to hurt the kids, but to show up the mothers for what they are. She used a device that highlighted the risks those children are at, and here we are reading her blog.
- urbancommando, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9I read the blog spam and I can't help but wonder if wjw75's observation is true. dggeek also makes a good point too. Without knowing this person I have no right to pass judgment on them and even if I did my opinion is worth just as much as hers. However, from how she presents herself online I have to assume she is indeed riddled with character flaws today, but most of us are. Her's are just more obnoxious.
- lenaris, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I agree. Apologize to the guy. Karma is a motherFer.
- bondi, on 10/12/2007, -6/+12I enjoy most of her posts, despite whether I agree with her sentiments or not. However the few remarks she made about people who are mentally retarded were in my opinion beyond cruel, and at least in this instance, her thought "My greatest fear is that John’s dry observations about my character still hold true today" is unfortunately true.
I think a lot of us did horrible things in our youth we aren't particularly proud of. I remember being in university and having a boyfriend who was so passionately in love with me, and I'd torture him by insinuating I was free to be with other guys, AND THEN ACTING ON IT AND NOT HIDING IT! He would look so sad and broken but stay anyway, telling me this was better than nothing at all. I think he was secretly hoping I'd outgrow my childish behavior. Why was I so cruel? I think I was drunk on the power of being a young, good-looking and much-desired woman, combined with underlying self-esteem issues (probably a result of bullying in HS). I'm ashamed of what I did but it's not who I am now, which brings me to my last point.
If VA wants to show us the mistakes she's made, why go back to a time when most people are young and stupid and also making forgivable mistakes? VA, tell us about the mistakes you made last year, the year before. These more recent mistakes are the ones that make you who you are today, not something you did when you were an adolescent. - creoderiot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7It really does cast the whole post in a very insincere light.
"Look how great I am because I know how great I'm not" or something
also why did she continue to harass that poor kid for so long? It's easy to say "wow, I was wrong" anyone can do that. Modifying your behavoir is the tougher and more sincere thing to do. - almostmanda, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7"Regardless, assuming that she's being honest - which I see no reason not to assume - she's opening up a painful chapter of her memory and sharing it, and people are perfectly willing to rip into her for it.
Kind of proves her point, doesn't it."
Then she wins the point proven contest. Admitting to doing something wrong and saying "I know I deserve to be punished for this" doesn't automatically put you in the clear for it. Everyone on here is perfectly correct in being appalled by her behavior, and I don't think she gets a free pass for "reflecting" or "coming clean".
Unburdening her soul about this benefits her, and only her. It doesn't benefit John. In fact, if I was him, reading this today, I'd feel even more humiliated and angry that she was STILL exploiting MY pain for her own benefit (not just because it's a weight off her shoulders--I imagine her ad revenue will spike nicely with this post). I wouldn't feel all warm inside that finally, she claims to feel bad about something horrible she did. And I certainly wouldn't pat her on the back and say "aw, we all make mistakes".
I'm sure she's capable of handling all of the comments on here, or she wouldn't have posted this story to begin with. - klauern, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I can't say that she ever really felt bad. From what I gather on her blog, she writes for the popularity, not the salvation that she can finally admit to doing something so mean to someone else.
Her sadness couldn't have left too many tears on the keyboard she was typing it on... - koushi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Sounds just like something out of Chicken Soup for the Teenage Soul.
- grouchosuave, on 10/12/2007, -11/+16Man, I just like her stuff more and more. Sure, she can be a bitch. So what? I cherish honesty and originality more than manners and amiability (in real life too!) Sure, she is a rising internet star, an emerging favorite in the *barf* blogosphere. As much as that gives me pause or pangs of jealousy, I just don't care. She is ***** awesome.
- Sinai, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9Probably because it was of the fact that oh, I don't know, MATTERED, and was an individual mistake that shaped her subsequent beliefs and quite likely John as well. It would be the greatest disservice to my teenage self to pretend those years didn't matter in shaping who I am now, and I suspect that holds true for any adult.
- sepherenia, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7I'll probably get buried, but what the heck, I'll go ahead and say it anyway.
Looks like digg's got a lot of Johns, and this article hit something of a sore spot. I'm not saying her taunting of John was right (not by a long shot), but she did apparently give him *a lot* of hints that she wasn't interested (which is fair enough, you don't have to feel obligated to fancy someone just because they fancy you) which he ignored. It's like most of the commenters here feel that the right thing to do would have been for V to fall violently in love with him, and that anything else made her a bitch.
At the 'let's just be friends' talk, he should have backed off, quicksmart. Women don't say that to play hard to get, they bloody well mean it and it doesn't matter how you feel about her, you still have to stop with the flowers/poems/innuendo/touchy-feelyness/date-arranging/what-have-you. Honestly, the number of men who interpret being nice and friendly* as 'I'm interested in you romantically/sexually" astounds me. I mean, continuing with the attempts at seduction and thinking they'll come around if you just keep pestering them is the mentality that drives stalkers, isn't it?
Obviously the way she treated him in regards to the name-calling and public humiliation was wrong (and considerably worse than John's transgressions), but to act like John did no wrong is just silly.
* Which from the sounds of things was what she was doing, granted, to boost her own ego. But sorry guys, if you want a girl who'd never do that, you're likely to be very, very alone. Anyway, laughing at jokes and playful punches on the arm do not constitute serious flirting. - transeunte, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10So she seems to be profound on the surface, but it's just the usual attention-whoreish behavior. Too bad some people still see her act as courageous, even though she remains anonymous and has never apologized to the nerd guy.
Hope Johnny is screwing some fine-ass chick these days. - PlackSlayer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6If she truly felt this way, the subtitle of her blog would not be:
"I’m just like you, only I’m interesting and my life isn’t devoid of meaning"
Yet another sad way of getting more attention. - johnbr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5You know, if someone who had treated me badly in high school posted on her blog that she regretted it, and was dismayed at how unpleasant she had been, I would feel some sense of relief, and closure. That she's making money from it - unimportant. It would just be nice to see a reaffirmation that people grow. That they actually grow up.
Mostly, I hope this letter finds its way to a current John - a boy who is right now going through this very scenario (or something like it) so he can see that there are women out there who realize that what they did as high school girls was wrong. Because I think it will help him cope, help him realize that her nastiness stems from her own insecurity. - PlackSlayer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I fogot to add this part - yet another gem of an example that she doens't relly give a rats ass about John or anyone else in her life.
"I'm a married woman in my early 30's with so much sand in my vagina that I give myself burns walking across my living room floor. But hey! It sure beats being you. "
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