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- BigJStudd, on 11/14/2007, -1/+185While I understand the fear of a suspect destroying evidence, it is inevitable that this sort of event will occur if the police don't act according to the rules we set for them.
Life in prison seems insane. - b8man99, on 11/14/2007, -4/+148Sounds like the police were in the wrong, but still wanted this guy to hang for killing the police chiefs son.
- lnf69, on 11/14/2007, -10/+139FTA. It was a raid for pot!!!
More proof of how the War on Drugs is unjust, irrational and just plain stupid. I feel bad that the cop was killed. He was put in the same impossible position that all law enforcement workers are put in, in the War on Drugs. - inactive, on 11/14/2007, -0/+100They should release this guy, seriously it was self defense.
- jtingley, on 11/14/2007, -2/+88Just 2 more lives completely destroyed by the senseless "War on Drugs".
A police officer who thought he was just doing his job and a regular guy defending his home who had no reason to think the police would have any reason to raid him.
I would bet that the "war on drugs" which is suppose to be saving lives has indeed destroyed more lives then any drug ever has. I bet there are even credible statistics somewhere that back that up. - reeder, on 11/14/2007, -5/+75Welcome to the police state.
- malkir, on 11/14/2007, -1/+60Do you really think someone should get a life sentence on someone elses word?
- SiNN4R, on 11/14/2007, -1/+58This is wrong on so many levels.
- lewhich, on 11/14/2007, -0/+53If a black teenager can get 14yrs for consensual oral sex, this shouldn't surprise anyone.
- inactive, on 11/14/2007, -5/+52because it was a black guy.
- Abatrour, on 11/14/2007, -0/+44The guys name wasn't even on the search warrant. They just busted into his place unannounced on BOXING DAY. I would have thought it was a damn thief too trying to steal all the gifts. Its the police officers own fault for not following protocol and this man shouldn't be punished.
- mess7777, on 11/14/2007, -5/+48this poor guy, wrong place wrong time. Wonder if it would be different if he was a rich white kid?
- krayzee911, on 11/14/2007, -1/+34...why would they be busting into your ass?
- fyngyrz, on 11/14/2007, -4/+36I read the article, and it seems pretty clear the cops could have been lying. That *is* their normal behavior, after all. How many times have you heard the cops say "yeah, we didn't announce, we just went in"? Never. But how many times has it turned out that was the case? Quite often. How many times have we heard them admit to beating their victims? Never. But how many times have we seen their victims with bruises, like this guy? Often. Cops have an old-boys mentality that encourages them to both do whatever they want to the presumptive "bad guys" and protect each other from anyone getting solid information about said behavior.
Personally, just the fact that this guy wasn't a target should have prevented them from EVER getting a warrant, and it also should put the law 100% on his side as per the home invasion. This whole "cops have the right to enter your home using force" is utter ***** in any case.
And THAT is entirely aside from the fact that all this tragedy happened because of the IDIOTIC war on personal choice, incitefully and incorrectly characterized by madmen and the constitutionally ignorant as a "war on drugs." This should never have happened; our laws are unconstitutional and our cops are as guilty as Hitler's soldiers of following illegal orders, in commission of which innocents are killed, their lives destroyed, imprisoned, raped, and worse. - notthemama, on 11/14/2007, -0/+30We don't have Boxing Day in the US, and this was in the US. But it was quite reasonable to assume it was burglars breaking in.
- bightchee, on 11/14/2007, -0/+26Everyone is someone's child including this man in prison. Executing him instead of imposing imprisonment because of who he killed cannot be justified.... unless you want to hang him because he's black. I can't help you there.
- laserblazer, on 11/14/2007, -0/+24Call it what you will, but a no-knock warrant is a home-invasion. Incremental conditioning has poisoned Americans against the concept of limitation of law-enforcement powers. The insanity of the so-called 'War on Drugs' has made law-enforcement more dangerous while simultaneously creating a rich source of black market funds.
An end to prohibition would spell the end of such readily-available funding for criminal syndicates. One may easily wonder why the government feels it has the right to dictate to so-called 'free' people' what chemicals they may ingest. I fear that the answer is that the American government is heavily influenced by the profitability of the black market. - lordtyros, on 11/14/2007, -1/+23If you're black, you're guilty until proven innocent. Especially if 10/12 of the jurors are white.
- thefirelane, on 11/14/2007, -1/+22Yes, I'm sure he rehearsed the scenario in his head over and over again just to be prepared:
"Now remember, if the police ever bust in, be sure to take just a couple shots, kill one, AND THEN surrender. It will make the whole process easier" - woohhaa, on 11/14/2007, -0/+21So if I bust someones door down while yelling "POLICE POLICE" as I am doing so I can expect to not be shot?
- solesoul, on 11/14/2007, -0/+21And to think, our country used to have Democratic ideals. Thank God we've grown out of that nonsense huh?
- Adabard, on 11/14/2007, -7/+27I'd shoot anyone who tried to bust into my ass, I don't care if you're my girlfriend or the police, that's just ***** wrong.
- MalumProhibitum, on 11/14/2007, -1/+18This guy is just another victim of the drug war. There was a time, post prohibition, and pre drug war, when cops actually knocked and waited for you to answer to serve their warrants. Now they just walk in. Its not suprising that every once in a while, someone mistakes them for an intruder. This guy retreated to his bedroom, and shot in self defense. Its time that all you toothless bubbas out there quit puffing the police, and start realizing that people have a god given right to defend themselves from invasion, whether the invader wears a badge or not.
- Deaus, on 11/14/2007, -0/+17A source article from Foxnews, in favor of Cory Maye:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,184992,00.html
Cory Maye may well have been a recreational pot smoker. But then, possession of a misdemeanor amount of pot doesn't justify an armed home invasion. Cory Maye may also have fired his gun too quickly. But what would you have done? You have no criminal record. You aren't a dangerous person. You have no reason to think police would break into your home in the middle of the night. You awake to find that your home is under attack. The door flies open. Do you wait to see who it is? Or do you defend your family?
Even the town public defender tried to save the guy:
But it gets worse. For the last 10 years, Bob Evans has been public defender for the town of Prentiss. Late last year, Evans says he was warned by town officials not to represent Cory Maye in his appeal. Evans ignored the threats, and gave Maye representation. In January of this year, Prentiss made good on its promise, and fired Evans.
Wow, how ***** up is that? A PUBLIC defender fired for representing someone. - slamtv7, on 11/14/2007, -1/+18Get in that ass Larry!
- thefirelane, on 11/14/2007, -2/+18No, it's the officers word against common sense, from my earlier post:
Yes, I'm sure he rehearsed the scenario in his head over and over again just to be prepared:
"Now remember, if the police ever bust in, be sure to take just a couple shots, kill one, AND THEN surrender. It will make the whole process easier" - GuyeNoir, on 11/14/2007, -0/+16Wrong place at the wrong time? It was night time and he was at home with his infant daughter, where the hell should he have been?!?
- RabidAngel, on 11/14/2007, -0/+16What seems obvious to me is that the defendant's behavior backs up exactly what he says happened. Why would anyone pop a few rounds at the first person through a door if they KNOW it is a group of police officers? Knowing that, it stands to reason that you have a rather high probability of getting blasted in return. He fired, heard "POLICE!", and immediately dropped his gun. Occam's razor. The simplest explanation is that he did not know they were police. Either way, the level of doubt that should be introduced here is enormous. A life sentence (or a death sentence?!?) is unconscionable.
- inactive, on 11/13/2007, -5/+20why aren't the gun nuts out there protesting?
- anachronaut, on 11/14/2007, -0/+14Maybe it was a one bedroom apartment and he unselfishly let his daughter have the only bedroom available at the time -- he was sleeping in the living room, after all. In any case, according to the article his daughter was only 18 months old (and just stayed there while her mother was at her job), so I seriously doubt she could have gotten the gun from a "tall headboard". That is all completely irrelevant, though.
This poor guy... he was trying to protect his daughter's life and now he's going to rot in prison for the rest of his. The War on [some] Drugs is so *****-up and wrong, and our corrupt "justice" system is just a meat grinder which has been retro-fitted to deliver profits. Unfortunately, it's going to have to get a lot worse before it has a chance of getting any better, and even then it's no sure thing. - martinherrera, on 11/14/2007, -0/+12the thing that bothers me the most is the fact that he really was trying to protect himself. IF the cops did identify themselves, he would have not shot at them. he's not stupid, and it's not like they were serving the warrant on him, so he had nothing to fear about the police.
- troye, on 11/14/2007, -4/+16Sh!t like that only happens to black people!
- troye, on 11/14/2007, -0/+12It's his fricking home. How can your own home be the wrong place?
- aonaran, on 11/14/2007, -0/+11Regardless of whether it is called boxing day or not the day after xmas is still a good time for crooks to be burglarizing a place, so it's not unreasonable to think that he might be getting robbed when some guy busts into his place unannounced with a gun and refuses to identify himself.
- slashbot, on 11/14/2007, -5/+16It is his word (that the officer didn't identify himself) vs. the officers.
The jury is more inclined to believe an officer. That being said, the life sentence does seem harsh... - GuyeNoir, on 11/13/2007, -0/+11Oh yeah, and I bet it was real hard for 10 white people to pressure 2 black people to do what they said in Mississippi.
- crimson117, on 11/14/2007, -0/+11They were both underage, so she also raped him by that same logic - yet she was never charged.
- empraptor, on 11/14/2007, -1/+12What motive do you attribute to his actions if not self-defense? He shot at a police officer for no reason in front of his baby?
Has it ever occurred to you that negative preconceptions are a result of past interaction with the police - that it is based on reality of how some of them are actually bad at their job and treat us like *****? - anachronaut, on 11/14/2007, -0/+10If the cops shoot someone who dies, it's just the cop's word that you have to go on that it was a justified shooting, and the cops are ALWAYS given the benefit of the doubt no matter how flimsy the evidence or their reasoning is. Why should someone who has done absolutely nothing to warrant having his home invaded be doubted at his word when he says he was acting in self defense? Double standards much?
C'mon, it's not like the guy had premeditated this. I can just imagine it now: "I'm gonna sit here for however many years it takes until the cops kick my door in, and then I get to murder one and claim it was self-defense." Luckily for him, he only had to wait there for a couple of weeks until he got his opportunity... (yes, that's sarcasm) - smurfz, on 11/14/2007, -1/+10Release him! That is so stupid, I have seen stories where cops get away with killing kids because the kid has a toy gun and then this guy has a cop bust into his house and probably scared him to death so he acts in self-defense and gets life in prison while cops that kill kids can walk freely. An unjust system and an unjust America when it comes to the war on drugs.
- timusca, on 11/14/2007, -1/+10Wow... just wow.
- BlackJackJester, on 11/14/2007, -4/+13Nobody said the cops were corrupt...they were just doing their job, and probably made a mistake. it is a duplex after all, which from the outside, can look like a single house.
- Sawta, on 11/14/2007, -1/+10Think very hard about these circumstances. You are a 21 year old black man living in Miss., no criminal history, you have two kids, live with your girlfriend and have an unregistered (and apparently, stolen) firearm in the next room. You don't have any reason to suspect that your house is going to be raided by police, so when you are waken up at 5am and run to arm yourself, what should it really matter if they said "POLICE!!" once or twice while kicking your back door in. You are scared *****. Should it be surprising when you end up shooting someone?
What I'm saying is, that whether the police bothered to follow regulation or not barely even matters at this point. I don't really know if there is a point.
It just makes me really sad to think that my country still thinks that its "okay" to have its own citizens put to death. - syroncoda, on 11/14/2007, -0/+9woah... damned if you protect your family and damned if you don't? ***** that. this is what a police state looks like.
- delmar14, on 11/14/2007, -0/+9And they wonder why no one in this country has any respect for the donut committee.
- Lennalf, on 11/14/2007, -0/+9This whole situation is very unfortunate. A man has lost his life, and another has lost his liberty... and all over some harmless pot. The whole thing is *****. However, the description of this article is very misleading. The officer did not "refuse" to identify himself. He simply (allegedly) neglected to do so.
- MalumProhibitum, on 11/14/2007, -0/+9his daughter is an infant.
- Bodhinature, on 11/14/2007, -0/+8The fact that Wikipedia offers links to all of the sources for the article plus footnote references means that its likely a good summary. If you doubt the veracity, read the reference articles.
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