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- techweenie1, on 03/28/2008, -49/+180We need some more of these judges.
- LordSkywalker, on 03/28/2008, -16/+107They can learn English in prison.
- usingpond, on 03/28/2008, -2/+90I'm about as liberal as they come, but LEARN SOME ***** ENGLISH. If I were emigrating to China I would try to learn the language.
- gamebittk, on 03/28/2008, -1/+70Well, if they really deserved jail time, this is pretty much a 'get out of jail free' card, with a catch.
- EarlOfLade, on 03/28/2008, -15/+71No, what is needed is a requirement to speak English as part of the permanent residency process. As an non-english speaking immigrant, I can assure you that knowing the language of the country where you are moving, is imperative.
USA should offer free language training to all immigrants and with the requirement of passing a language exam prior to receiving residency. - jseres, on 03/28/2008, -4/+50As an immigrant coming from Eastern Europe I can tell you that no one gave me hand outs like learning how to speak English for free. Why do these people deserve it if I didn't. I took it upon myself to go to classes, read books, and study the language. It is really easy to say that the government should provide everything for everyone when in reality it requires resources that cost money to be able to provide language tutors. Books, tapes, and the tutors themselves all cost money, why force the taxpayers to pay for it?
- Kenzan, on 03/28/2008, -4/+48"But that doesn’t make it right, said Agapito Lopez, a Latino community leader from Hazleton. He said he believes the ruling is a violation of the suspects’ rights."
This guy needs to drink a big cup of STFU.
In the fight to keep your people from ignorance and separatism,
You're doin' it wrong. - inactive, on 03/28/2008, -23/+63I hate people that go to a country and don't learn the language. It's so arrogant of them.
- blazes816, on 03/28/2008, -2/+40Well, they would have to read the card.
- Ajnag, on 03/28/2008, -5/+43You are right, but the 'unofficial' language for worldwide business IS English. You cannot dispute that.
- laughandsing, on 03/28/2008, -9/+46For free? Why should it be the American Taxpayers responisiblity to teach non citizens the English language. That responisiblity lies on their hands, not ours.
- punx, on 03/28/2008, -16/+46I watch your comments on here, and I swear you have to be the biggest ***** moron I have ever had the displeasure of encountering on Digg. You are the saddest, most bitter person I have ever seen, and then I looked at your profile, and I almost felt sorry for you. Almost. At 38, you should really get out and see something of the country instead of staring at your computer screen all the time. That being said, regarding this article, deportation would have been better, so quit your ***** bitching about some illegals having to learn English, pussy.
- Akairenn, on 03/28/2008, -14/+44The US has always had English. Millions of immigrants over the past two centuries have had no problem learning it. Sorry, learn English or GTFO.
- inactive, on 03/28/2008, -10/+39Should have been a reduced sentence instead of a complete alternative, or a condition for parole.
- techweenie1, on 03/28/2008, -2/+30Not by law but neither does England, our ancestors didn't realise people like yourself would exist in the future otherwise they would have made it a law, America does have a language by precident and custom however and that language English.
- LinuxRevolution, on 03/28/2008, -22/+49Why should I have to "press 1 for english" in America? Do they "press 1 for spanish" in Mexico? No because spanish is the national language, just like english in America.
- Skod, on 03/28/2008, -8/+34I don't get it.....they're resident aliens, why aren't we deporting them?
- InfidelAl, on 03/28/2008, -16/+39FTA: "Police said the four were part of a group of people that approached two men, Reese Tankalavage and Cletus Mumie, on May 29 on Locust Street and asked them if they had any marijuana. When Tankalavage and Mumie said no, the four suspects told them to empty their pockets. That’s when one of the people in the group struck Mumie in the head with a rawhide bone. Another man pulled out a gun."
While it's probably good advice for these guys, I fail to see how reading and writing English, having a GED or a working at a full time job has anything to do with their crime. Seems odd to have such an weird punishment when it's completely unrelated to the crime. - capiCrimm, on 03/28/2008, -8/+30English is debatable, but without a job they are very limited in how else they can earn a legal living. People don't tend to steal and break the law because they want to, but because they feel they have no alternative.
- m00kie, on 03/28/2008, -3/+24Was Samuel L Jackson the judge?
"English, MutherF#cker ... DO YOU SPEAK IT?"
WHUT aint no language I ever heard before! - Ajnag, on 03/28/2008, -5/+26And learn how to deal drugs more effectively.
- inactive, on 03/28/2008, -3/+24Yeah I know, so maybe If I ever get arrested for robbing someone, hitting them in the head, and pulling a gun on them I know I can get let off by simply learning a new language.
- wertach, on 03/28/2008, -1/+21We need more people like you!
- inactive, on 03/28/2008, -3/+23HAHAHAAHA
All my Asian "boat people" friends from childhood that learned english, got good grades and now are gainfully employed think that's dumb. - funkyloki, on 03/28/2008, -0/+17This wasn't the punishment. The sentencing was for four months to 2 years. Because they served time during the trial, the judge gave them parole with time served. This was the condition of parole, which means they have served the minimum time for the sentencing and were granted parole with certain conditions. Actually the judge is saving the township money by not keeping these guys in jail. If the parole conditions are adhered to, these guys might live better lives as productive members of society. Also, as in this case, if they don't live up to the conditions, they go right back in for the full two years with no parole. Sounds like a pretty good compromise if it works.
- Deputy_Doodah, on 03/28/2008, -0/+16Wonderful.
Not only does it keep someone from needlessly going to jail, it helps fix the problem that got them into court to begin with. This judge has the balls to be right.
I'm so tired of jail being the punishment for EVERYTHING from smoking pot to murder. Few want the trouble of administering appropriate punishments and rehabilitation. - deviouskoopa, on 03/28/2008, -8/+24Shouldn't that "or" be an "and"?
- inactive, on 03/28/2008, -4/+19I was in agreement with you until you said the US should offer FREE language training. Why is it a country's responsibility to pay for someone to learn the native language when they want to come here? That burden should be on those wanting citizenship of whatever country, not the country.
I was born abroad and only spoke Swedish until about age 5. When my family moved back to the U.S. I knew English before I stepped foot in this country. That was the responsibility of my parents, not the U.S. Government.
Yes, we should require anyone wanting to live, work or become a citizen to speak the language. This does not apply to the U.S. only. It applies to any country.
Speak the native language or get out. - doctechnical, on 03/28/2008, -2/+17That's a mere technicality and can be cured with the stroke of a pen (and a politician with a pair of balls).
My great grandmother came over on the boat from Germany, and she refused to teach her children (my grandmother among them) how to speak German. She said "We're in America, we speak English" and that was that. At that time assimilating to the culture was considered a good thing. - inactive, on 03/28/2008, -11/+26Funny, never heard an American speak Navaho.
- manstein01, on 03/28/2008, -4/+19Please take your liberal "white anglos are evil and everybody else is a victim" crap somewhere else.
Seriously, you must be a college student or something. Immigrants ARE guests that need to assimilate. - Niubai, on 03/28/2008, -1/+16Fair enough. Nothing against immigrants, but if they want to work and live in a foreigner country they should (or at least they should try) learn the language.
- louiebaur, on 03/28/2008, -4/+18That is going to be my new phrase Learn English or go to jail
- darkstar949, on 03/28/2008, -0/+14A resident alien isn't in the same category as an illegal alien - they have a green card and obligated to pay US taxes. [1] However, in the case of this situation, they can have their application for full citizenship denied due to committing a crime
[1] http://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/residentalien. ... - blazes816, on 03/28/2008, -2/+16Not to mention how to make a shank out of a rubberband and some old meatloaf.
- spiritflare1, on 03/28/2008, -8/+21good on the judge - here in Canada, you pretty much hear every language spoken on the Bus or Workplace except English. If you're a recent immigrant, make an effort to learn the native language of the country you're going to adopt as your new home, and teach your kids English, or at least make some effort as a parent to learn it yourself.
- mikesly, on 03/28/2008, -6/+19America has no official language. Only a select amount of states have put English as their official language.
- gametavern, on 03/28/2008, -3/+16When in rome, do as the romans do... OR GO BACK HOME.
- techweenie1, on 03/28/2008, -4/+17Props to you for going against the liberal norm, I wish you could convince some more people on your side to see it your way, starting with the two Democrats running for president.
- Swarms, on 03/28/2008, -0/+13So now I'm racist for thinking an immigrant should learn the accepted language of the culture their joining? What happens when you complain to the manager, and he doesn't speak English either? You don't see how all of that causes more problems than them learning English? People like you seem to equate a dislike of illegal, law breaking immigrants with regular immigrants joining our society for better lives. I have no problem with immigrants. I have problems with immigrants who break the law.
- jehan60188, on 03/28/2008, -0/+13I was originally shocked by the headline, but upon reading the actual terms of the parole, it seems like a pretty good idea- these men have an (incredibly good) incentive to learn the language of their country of residence, in addition to getting a GED which will open up many more career opportunities for them.
- KaivenTor, on 03/28/2008, -0/+12Compassionate, but i think the judge is testing whether or not this will work. Okay, so we have some robbers and they don't speak English, have no education and obviously cannot support themselves except through robbing others. Monitored appropriately, it might be possible to help break 1, 2, or even all 3 out the cycle and get them into the work force.
English might not be the official language of the US, but is the most commonly used language of trade (domestically and internationally), so it's probably the best place to start. The ACLU should shut the hell up on this one and take it that their clients rights aren't being abused, it's like sending them to jail, just you know a lot more comfortable if they comply with the ruling.
It'll be interesting to see if this can be done and done with decent results. It was bound to happen sometime. - gametavern, on 03/28/2008, -3/+14Because we'd rather have them waste tax dollars (which they'll never pay) using our legal system, and eventually our jails.
- doctechnical, on 03/28/2008, -2/+13They're resident aliens, and they're low-life scumsucking thugs who IMHO ought to be in jail until they're too old to assault anyone ever again. That having been said, the judge's order was the best thing that could have happened to them. They're going to be better off in life (in the US) with a good grasp of English and a GED. They ought to kiss the judge's ass for his leniency.
- Teh1337Pirate, on 03/28/2008, -11/+22that's why we needs an electric fence and land mines on the border
- funkyloki, on 03/28/2008, -0/+11Just so you know, the judge ordered this for these gentleman because they are on parole. One of the stipulations of the conditions of parole were that they learn English. He granted them a year to do this. If they learn English they get to stay on parole, otherwise they have to complete their sentences.
Another stipulation was they all earn their GEDs. If anything these requirements will help these guys.
And finally, the reason why he made learning english one of the conditions is because the people were paying for trnaslators for these guys. All in all, this judge did the right thing, and if it works, the offenders, and the people, will be better off. - inactive, on 03/28/2008, -0/+11And if you're not going to learn english at least don't break the law... duh
- DontThinkSo, on 03/28/2008, -0/+11Individual states *do* have laws setting the state-wide language. Article III Section 6 of the California State Constitution establishes English as the official state language.
- Jauladeoro, on 08/27/2008, -0/+10While the ruling may be a violation of rights, I would take it if I were them. I don't think the Judge is doing it to be cruel or racist. He's being compassionate and offering these guys an opportunity to get their lives going in the right direction.
If criminals were handled this way more often it would benefit everyone. Locking people up for years doesn't do anyone any good. They will come out being even worse off than they were before and having wasted tax payer's money. Rehabilitation and education are cheaper and will contribute to a better society. - uselessexpert, on 03/28/2008, -3/+13@uziko
What the ***** is the Mexican language? Did you mean Spanish? Check yourself before you try and make an intelligent post you moron!
As for me...I am hispanic, and I've always said this. If you don't like to speak english, get the ***** out of the US and go back where you came from. Is like going to Japan or China and trying to force the populace there learn spanish because I don't speak japanese or any other chinese dialects... I bet they'll learn how to say "don't ***** me in the ass" really soon... -
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