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- colbeagle13, on 02/13/2009, -8/+175You want to cut jail and prison costs? Stop locking up people for marijuana, prostitution, and all the other victimless "crimes" that cost us thousands per inmate, but fail to make society any safer. Then maybe a prisoner wiping his ass won't break the budget
- Llanowar, on 02/13/2009, -1/+59This article sucks.
Save more than $2.300 per what? Day? Week? Month? Year? Per year per inmate? - sealbeater, on 02/13/2009, -2/+55Some prison guards make over 100,000 a year with overtime. Anyone who's been to jail will tell you that the guards will do things like deny prisoners soap for a month. This happened to me and every inmate at Theo Lacy in Orange County, CA.. The reason they do this is to get the prisoners ansy and agitated, so the guards can collect overtime because of "dangerous prison conditions". I saw 2 riots because prisoners hadn't bathed in a month. They also were denied clean socks and underwear for that month. I'm sure staph infections rose accordingly. Nothing said here will change anything, but please consider the financial motivations of poorly educated and trained prison guards. This reminds me of the Georgia sheriff who starved his immates so that he could pocket the savings.
- ECas123, on 02/13/2009, -1/+52"Can you spare a square?"
"I don't have a square to spare"
"Is it two ply? if it is I just need ONE square"
"Look, I don't have a square to spare"
*shank.* - accn112, on 02/13/2009, -1/+52I'm pretty sure they're just gonna ***** everywhere and not pay for it.
- Trekhawk, on 02/13/2009, -5/+48Why not do away with TP entirely? Three shells is much more cost-effective.
- ECas123, on 02/13/2009, -2/+45That's insane! IT'S ANARCHY! What's next, letting women drive? Not in my America, hippy.
/Bill O' Reilly - CTK14A, on 02/13/2009, -0/+39Imagine, for a second, being stuck in a jail cell with a guy bigger than you, and he doesn't want to pay for his toilet paper...
- jwucd, on 02/13/2009, -0/+36Cost of toilet paper=.01 per inmate per day
Increased medical care due to exponential growth in virus outbreaks>>.01
Brilliant. - AmyVernon, on 02/13/2009, -2/+35While I don't have a problem with this in some respects, what about those inmates who have no money at all, in or out of prison?
- Cerebron, on 02/13/2009, -1/+30If you insist on locking someone up, you are responsible for their welfare, and must shoulder all related costs.
- WindWalker84, on 02/13/2009, -9/+38That sounds outrageous. Sounds like a human rights violation. What if you don't have any money with you when you get arrested for something that will later get thrown out of court?
Now for medium or high security prisons, yeah, make the ***** pay for toilet paper, electricity too. - superterrorizer, on 02/13/2009, -0/+29Yeah, because that's gonna be real sanitary in an already unsanitary place. Cruel and...VERY unusual.
- BushidoReverend, on 02/13/2009, -1/+29Isn't it sad that our government spends more money on jails than schools annually?
I think so. - IKORKYI, on 02/13/2009, -2/+28inmates should work off the entire expense of being in prison, or at least as much as possible. i see no reason they shouldn't be put into work programs where a large percentage of their earning go right to the prison, while the rest will accrue in accounts so when they get out, they have something to get started with.
maybe they'd get something out of an honest job too - syndustry, on 02/13/2009, -1/+251) never underestimate a human's capacity for greed
2) I would suggest you look into zimbardo's stanford prison study...it will clarify just how brutal an average person can become when given power over another.
3) I would trust a former prisoners opinion on the prison system more than I would trust and prison worker...because they have something to lose and I would trust both of the aforementioned even more than I would trust "some guy on the internet"...such as myself or you. - mytealjacket, on 02/13/2009, -2/+25This crosses the line. I think we all want our fellow Americans, even prisoners, to live in sanitary conditions. I know some in some places people use their hands but I think that's when they're too poor for paper right? I know in Iran they use water hoses, but that's actually even cleaner in some ways. And that's such a taboo for us here in the US, we see it as cruel.
- freshgrease, on 02/13/2009, -1/+24I'm sure a well aimed diarrhea shot out the food hatch will make them think twice.
- oboshoe, on 02/13/2009, -1/+24This is just some bureaucrat trying to grab headlines and make himself look good. Probably for an upcoming election.
The prisoners will be forced to earn that money through the prison system (i.e. license plates etc).
No real money will change hands, therefor there are no savings.
But they will spend money trying to account for it.
In the end, its just cost more money, but it makes some politician look good and stupid people love this sort of thing. - smotpoker, on 02/13/2009, -0/+23They get billed and if anyone brings them money it's automatically deducted (I would assume)
I know at one jail I went they charged all inmates a $10 intake/processing fee. If you had any cash on you when you were brought in they would deduct it, even if you were homeless and only had $5. They didn't treat you any different though while you were locked up. You just couldn't buy anything extra until you'd paid your fee(s).
Since a lot of inmates waste toilet paper on stupid bs i don't really have a problem if they are charged for using more than like 2 rolls per week. My beef is that the jails will very likely over charge like they do with everything else. Just about anything you buy in jail will cost ~2-3x more than on the streets. For instance, the same jail I went with the $10 intake fees charged $80 for FM-only headphones. - meerling, on 02/13/2009, -0/+22Let's see, they are there against their will, unable to earn an income, probably with no money on them, and certainly no access to an ATM even if they still had their wallet. And you want them to pay for the privilege of access to basic sanitary needs...
And how large of a lawsuit do you want shoved up your rectum? - inyearstocome, on 02/13/2009, -2/+23Turn the jail into a TP factory and have the inmates work it. solved.
- Wilddigi, on 02/13/2009, -0/+20pooping isn't an issue. Wiping the poop from your ass is
- ousthouse, on 02/13/2009, -1/+21sheet
- zephc, on 02/13/2009, -0/+20Do like the Romans did: keep a rag on a stick in a bucket of salt water
Its that or walk around with ***** buttholes all day - hardtoconfuse, on 02/13/2009, -2/+22In other news, reported prison rapes have reached an all time low.
- MeatPlow, on 02/13/2009, -0/+20Enhance your calm, John Spartan.
- slyzxx, on 02/13/2009, -0/+19I would not doubt they would do something stupid like that.Besides how much do inmates earn anyways .21 cents per hour or something ?
Next thing you see is "INMATES PAY RENT TO FOR JAIL TIME" - Nauree, on 02/13/2009, -0/+16Thats about $6.5 a day per inmate which is like a 4 pack of Charms Quilted Ultra. Apparently, they get quality to ***** on.
- inactive, on 02/13/2009, -0/+16Then what, they are paying rent on their cells? Seriously, I know they ***** up but for god sakes, let them wipe their asses.
- NiftyG, on 02/13/2009, -0/+15How much will the city pay to clean up the jail cells when they become toxic waste dumps?
- spoon088, on 02/13/2009, -0/+15How about not putting people in jail for petty crimes and minor drug use and just cut the cost of babysitting them in the first place?
- the2989, on 02/13/2009, -1/+15I'd rather poop on the floor than pay for toilet paper!
- Gndoab, on 02/13/2009, -0/+14$2,300 per year per inmate?
I want that kind of toilet paper. - brandnewx, on 02/13/2009, -0/+13Breaking News: "For the first time in history, inmates demand a pay-rise for their works, so that they can afford some toilet papers."
- sealbeater, on 02/13/2009, -0/+13The guards will just put ***** in your food.
- junkjunk, on 02/13/2009, -0/+13He doesn't know how to use the shells...
- CTK14A, on 02/13/2009, -1/+13John Spartan: [to machine on wall after finding out that they no longer use toilet paper] Thanks a lot you *****-brained, *****-faced, ball breaking, duck ***** pain in the ass.
Moral Statute Machine: John Spartan, you are fined five credits for repeated violations of the verbal morality statute.
John Spartan: [grabbing the tickets printed by the machine] So much for the seashells. See you in a few minutes. - iBleeedOrange, on 02/13/2009, -2/+14Maybe it will stop all the ass raping, or maybe it will just be a lot more gross...
- ECas123, on 02/13/2009, -2/+13Being the nurse in that jail= priceless.
- proliance, on 02/13/2009, -0/+11I don't think you know the difference between jail and prison.
Jail is for people who have been charged with crime and cannot make bail. A lot of the people in jail are awaiting trial, only to found not not guilty. And yes, some of them are really innocent. People convicted of misdemeanors (serving less than 11 months, 29 days) will be sent to a jail instead of a prison. Some short term felonies will also be sent to a jail instead of a prison.
Toilet paper is not a luxury. That's just dumb. You don't want to be around anyone who doesn't have any toilet paper. One roll per week, per person is plenty. Inmates who have money on their account should be charged for toiletries, soap, deodorant, toothpaste and so on, but those who are indigent get it for free.
Not all "cooperative inmates" have jobs. Many people in jail are injured or sick and cannot work. And work does not mean getting paid. Most jails do not pay anything, prisons do.
And I don't get my information from the media or some relative. I worked as a correctional officer and in administration. - inactive, on 02/13/2009, -0/+10the point -----(.)
you --------------------------------------------------------------------(.) - mustang460, on 02/13/2009, -0/+10Well given that you can be thrown in jail for possessing a plant, were going to have a lot of mouths to feed.
- AckTheCat, on 02/13/2009, -3/+13I agree with the principle of your statement, but the problem is that forcing convicts to work will inevitably lead to abuse by the government. As soon as they figure out they can actually make a profit from the almost endless stream of "misfits" the judicial system sends to prison, our beloved government officials will begin actively pursuing methods to get more laborers. That's you and me. We'll start to see questionable legislation with overly vague language become commonplace, allowing the conviction of huge numbers of citizens, thereby increasing the incarcerated workforce that can in turn be forced to make a product that lines the pockets of the Legislators, Judges, Prosecutors, and Police (a.k.a, the public "servants".).
Forced labor in jails would very quickly become institutionalized slavery, but instead of being selected for slavery based on race or nationality, it would be based on your ability to pay enormous amounts of money to a Defense attorney to defend you.
In the end, the lawyers and similar soulless abominations of humanity end up with lots of money, while the average citizen finds himself incarcerated and working for Big Brother all for being in the same room with someone who smoked a J. - ripple123, on 02/13/2009, -0/+10no. other people dont get to say what you do to yourself, as long as it dosent infringe on their personal liberties. individual liberty does not depend on popular opinion of what you should or shouldnt do.
- EndersGame, on 02/13/2009, -1/+10I couldn't get the article to load but my guess is they will tack the cost of the toilet paper onto the inmate's restitution fee. Most jails require you to pay restitution after you are released to help cover the costs of your stay there. If you don't have any money they either set you up with a payment plan or you can work off the fine in a work project program. This doesn't sound like a big deal to me.
- Kyzzyxx, on 02/13/2009, -0/+9This will quickly become a health issue. And, for the nation's right to incarcerate someone it becomes the nation's duty to protect them. That includes matters of health. For instance, inmates are the ONLY people in the US that have any kind of universal health care. Which is also a reason why they are claiming they are going to have to start releasing thousands and thousands of inmates next year because they just cannot afford the medical care in these overcrowded prisons anymore.
- inactive, on 02/13/2009, -2/+11they already do. Why do you tink that only mnake 21 cents an hour?
- altgeeky1, on 02/13/2009, -0/+9I thought the point of prison was reform, not indentured slavery for profit. America is not a penal colony.
- EndersGame, on 02/13/2009, -0/+9I got the article to load while I still had a chance to edit my comment, you and I both know the article didn't point out anything I didn't already know.
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