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Is There Really Such a Thing as Time Travel? Creepy! watch!

5min.com — The Philadelphia Experiment was an alleged naval military experiment in 1943, in which the U.S. destroyer escort USS Eldridge was to be rendered invisible to human observers for a brief period of time. It is also referred to as Project Rainbow.

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  • hphickman, on 12/09/2007, -79/+25A new ID created today, and the only activity on it is submitting a 5min.com - what a surprise.
    • Cybrwolf, on 12/09/2007, -10/+64And this is a problem why?
      • 1800collect, on 12/10/2007, -4/+1I don't know about PC users, but I'm on a Mac. It seems when a video from 5min.com gets a lot of traffic from Digg the video will not load at all. I have to go find it on youtube (which always loads). The problem I have is I can't find this video on youtube. Help anyone?
      • 1800collect, on 12/10/2007, -2/+1Hmmm. Seems to be some kind of bug with Safari 3. Loaded in Firefox fine. Good to know. But that's why I don't like 5min.com
    • Cenobite, on 12/09/2007, -4/+57Yeah, one more submission and he'll officially overtake you. Smartass.
    • tedhead2k, on 12/09/2007, -2/+41Geeze, and he posted an interesting video for us to enjoy. What a pain!
    • unreg, on 12/09/2007, -3/+53That's because he's from the future. How could he have an username if he hadn't even been born?

    • LucasVB, on 12/09/2007, -13/+16No, he's right. 5min.com has been spamming digg for a while now. I'm not saying there aren't interesting stuff being posted, just that there is, indeed, a lot of spamming promoting that website around here.
    • inobla, on 12/09/2007, -6/+21I see comments like yours for ever 5min.com video.. Why don't I ever see claims that Youtube or break.com videos are spam? What do you folks have against 5min?
      • mciampa1214, on 12/09/2007, -21/+7...Says the spammer from 5min.com
        • inobla, on 12/09/2007, -3/+17Me? Spammer? I've been on Digg for well over a year and I've never even submitted a single article.
          • MadOgre, on 12/10/2007, -22/+2And that gives you some sort of moral high ground?
          • inobla, on 12/10/2007, -2/+17Moral high ground? Uhh, no. I was simply defining myself against somebody implying that I'm somehow a 5min.com spammer. I can't be spamming 5min.com videos if I've never even submitted anything. Moral high ground?? Wow, that has to be the stupidest conclusion I've seen all day.
          • Lobstertacular, on 12/10/2007, -0/+19He's a witch!
          • djbon2112, on 12/10/2007, -0/+12He turned me into a newt!
      • noodless, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1Break and metacafe are huge sites, most of 5min.com traffic is from digg and its only 5 months old!
        http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/ ...
        They spam digg using one off accounts and up vote them through many puppet accounts.
    • max420, on 12/09/2007, -2/+14Honestly, i've seen a lot of 5min content on digg as well. But all of the stuff that makes the front page from them is good anyway. So who cares if they spam the "upcoming" section.
    • icemanxp, on 12/10/2007, -3/+1Pic or it didn't happen.
    • eschompthis, on 12/10/2007, -5/+2this is BS, I'm at a point of my life where i don't believe in conspiracies. If it happened, cool. If it didn't, owell. If we dont know, I frankly dont give a *****
      • Seeker135, on 12/10/2007, -10/+3Nobody cares what point you're at in you lousy little life, loser.
    • djgump35, on 12/10/2007, -1/+1someone knows how to front page stories far better than I, I don't have the patience to learn, but creating a new id, and getting it posted to the front, nice.
  • Vazelos, on 12/09/2007, -55/+14Forget about life beyond earth, we first need to be aware of what is happening on this planet.
    • Konstantino, on 12/10/2007, -1/+7Past and future = Life on Earth, not beyond it.
  • Shananra, on 12/09/2007, -14/+251Interesting video, but it's kind of tough to swallow. I honestly have a really hard time believing that the world would be in the state that it's in if we had access to time travel, nor do I believe that I wouldn't have heard of this until now if it truly did go down as depicted.
    • xptoast, on 12/09/2007, -33/+12Tesla invented a lot of things as many other inventors have that would indeed help mankind but as always greed takes hold of the souls in which keep our society in play. Government, corporations and such keep this unused for good as corruption is what lines their pockets with what may seem to be now monopoly money as the world may soon turn to the euro. Corruption+Knowledge= Shelf knowledge and sue and kill those who know about it to keep corruption(greed of money) lining their pockets. Sadly that money will do them no good when they die as they have spent their lives burning it away as fireworks are expensive and are burned away in seconds for the instant gratifications of their flesh.
      • xptoast, on 12/09/2007, -31/+6Whoever burried the comment must not understand how life works. Sorry but my comment was valid no matter how smart you think you are.
        • carbonetc, on 12/09/2007, -8/+29Insecure, much?
        • xptoast, on 12/10/2007, -20/+3Nope. Why do you think I was standing up for what I knew to be true instead of asking why they buried my comment. Have fun with English. You must not understand it such as most others do not.
          • enemyofstate430, on 12/10/2007, -2/+3WTF? There is some serious projection going on in this comment. You are one of the most grammatically challenged individuals I have ever seen appear on digg. Sorry; you're not gonna get a star on your paper here: this isn't special ed. This is reality. In fact, you're so ***** ridiculous I dealt with this stupid broken captcha system twice just to tell you that.
        • genericwhiteguy, on 12/10/2007, -4/+16Possibly because your original comment was a rambling, non-sensical, grammatically-puzzling, paranoid rant? Just sayin...
          • xptoast, on 12/10/2007, -19/+2Paranoid? No. If you are comparing my comment to a paranoid one then you my friend are crazy compared to what is common sense. Read..Think....Then comment. That would be better for you next time.
      • staticneuron, on 12/09/2007, -1/+5people are always uncomfertable with the thought of conspiracy theories. I guess most would like to believe that people would want to advance the human race first then be concerned about greed later.
        • xptoast, on 12/10/2007, -5/+4Thank you. I wish that people would want to advance the human race without greed making their decisions. Sadly it tends to be greed that advances the human race as well as making it suck.
      • KingBabi, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1Hey guys! I can be demeaning and nonsensical while trying to appear logical and justified in my arguments too!
        • xptoast, on 12/11/2007, -0/+1Did I forget to demean you or something? I didn't put your name up there did I? No I didn't. Shut up now.
    • webcrumb, on 12/09/2007, -12/+32So things only happen unless you hear about them? That's very naive. Ever head of Third Wave warfare? Controlling information, specifically media outlets. You only hear about things you are wanted to hear about.
      • SiNN4R, on 12/10/2007, -8/+1If someone could travel back in time the universe would collapse on itself.
        • alby13, on 12/10/2007, -0/+4That's one theory out of many.
        • ashytaka, on 12/10/2007, -0/+8That makes sense assuming that there is only one timeline.
          • KingBabi, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1Now if you take 1985A, for instance...
      • Sroek, on 12/10/2007, -2/+2Sadly, the masses are oblivious to the truth.
      • Magunga, on 12/10/2007, -1/+5If the government was controlling media outlets and this was all true this video wouldn't exist.
    • Elephant789, on 12/09/2007, -6/+66Are you serious? You've never heard of The Philadelphia Experiment until now?
    • sixsidepentagon, on 12/09/2007, -11/+4Yeah, I've definitely heard of it before. Though that might have been in Command and Conquer...
    • NoStoppingUs, on 12/09/2007, -1/+14digg loves to dabble in conspiracy theories. what happens if this is true? what if all of the actions of our federal government are for a reason? hmmmmmmmm
      • ashytaka, on 12/10/2007, -0/+26They will just go back in time and prevent it from every being posted. In fact, I am probably wasting my time commenting here

    • brasso, on 12/09/2007, -2/+18I believe it when I don’t see it...
    • mrivorey, on 12/09/2007, -0/+16The Philadelphia Experiment
      http://imdb.com/title/tt0087910/

      They even made this into a movie.
      • allan17, on 12/10/2007, -0/+9The Final Countdown
        http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080736/

        A similar themed movie, about an aircraft carrier transported back in time just in time for attack on pearl harbor.
        • SonicRush, on 12/10/2007, -0/+4Wow. That sounds so ridiculous I'm gonna have to check it out. Thanks!
        • MadOgre, on 12/10/2007, -0/+6That movie kicked ass!
          • CiXeL, on 12/10/2007, -0/+15...ITS THE FINAL COUNTDOWN!!
          • CATSCEO, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2Indeed :) Got it on DVD.
          • Markpdotcom, on 12/10/2007, -0/+9de de der dum, de de de dum dum, de de derrr dum... the final count dowwwwnnn! :D
            (I would have replied to CiXeL direct, but the comment system sucks!)
        • stevedclarke, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1Ah dude thanks! I watched it when I was very little and impressionable; it probably had a little part to play in my love of scifi. Thought I would never find out what it was called. I should definitely give it a watch again for old time's sake.
      • dealseeker, on 12/10/2007, -0/+4The Philadelphia Experiment II
        http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107819/

        Evidently, the Freedom of Information Act also brought us a sequel, just a decade later... or was it a prequel?!
    • adooga, on 12/09/2007, -2/+16Shananra, this is one of the most famous phenomena of the 20th century.
      It's been written about in hundreds, maybe thousands of books and articles.
      Hollywood made a movie about it - The Philadelphia Experiment.
      You really should stay in more.
      • madm0nk, on 12/10/2007, -0/+11You have to understand that digg has been taken over by an age (or level of intelligence, I can't figure out which) group that is only familiar with things that have happened in the last 5-10 years or the latest trend.
    • LeeJunFan, on 12/10/2007, -3/+5Yeah, the Philadelphia experiment happened, who knows if it was really like this. But I can't for a second believe that our gov't has the ability to time travel and yet gets stuff so wrong today.
      • blackacre, on 12/10/2007, -0/+16No, things are going exactly according to plan...
      • Sroek, on 12/10/2007, -0/+9If you travel through time, I take it you hardly end up in the same time-continuance, so you'd be in the past altering the course of another dimension, not the one you came from.
        • teh_techie, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1On that same note... if you went to the future to see what was going to happen, you're seeing the future when you didn't yet know what was going to happen. Now that you KNOW, the future won't be the same. No matter what, it would never be accurate. Nevertheless, time travel would be AWESOME!
      • ashytaka, on 12/10/2007, -0/+8You say that stuff goes wrong, but you don't have the absolute knowledge that the gov't has because of their time travel devices. You could never know if they were messing things up, since you can't see the future.
      • rodbotic, on 12/10/2007, -0/+5This is called misdirection.
        Hey Look over there!, as I point with one hand.
        and do something I don't want you to see with the other.
    • Sroek, on 12/10/2007, -0/+7If you travel through time, I take it you hardly end up in the same time-continuance, so you'd be in the past altering the course of another dimension, not the one you came from.
      • ashytaka, on 12/10/2007, -0/+7I agree with this theory, as it is the only one that time travel doesn't destroy the universe
      • volvinator, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2Whhhoooa..... whhoooaaa... whoa, dude. I like that.
    • sporg, on 12/10/2007, -2/+9This video is garbage. If you are interested in time travel why don't you study the real thing. Time dilation has already been proven for instance. Please don't waste your time or give any recognition to these liars.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation#Velocit ...

      http://www.walter-fendt.de/ph11e/timedilation.htm
      • MacSuxWindozSux, on 12/10/2007, -7/+2Hi I also can't prove the video is wrong and want to tell people it's fake anyway.
        And...

        I forgot what I was going to say.
    • soil, on 12/10/2007, -0/+11@Shananra,

      That's not what you said tomorrow!
    • Frnnkdlxx, on 12/10/2007, -3/+1I could have sworn the Philidelphia Expirement was about Teleportation, not time travel... Oh well. Little jewels the History Channel has left into our minds.... As well as HEIL HITLA!
    • CalamariAce, on 12/10/2007, -2/+2When you look at something like this, the first thing to check is the source. How credible is the information? From wikipedia on the Philadelphia Experiment:

      "Many observers argue it inappropriate to put much credence in an unusual story put forward by one individual, in the absence of more conclusive corroborating evidence. An article written by Robert Goerman for Fate in 1980, claimed that “Carlos Allende”/“Carl Allen” was in fact Carl Meredith Allen of New Kensington, Pennsylvania, who had an established psychiatric history and may have fabricated the primary history of the experiment as a result of his illness.

      Dash[2], in particular, is stark in illustrating the near-total lack of research by those who eventually publicised the story; others speculate that much of the key literature has more emphasis on dramatic embellishment rather than pertinent research. Though Berlitz and Moore's famous account of the story (The Philadelphia Experiment: Project Invisibility) contained much supposedly factual information, such as transcripts of an interview with a scientist involved in the experiment, it has also been criticised for plagiarising key story elements from the fictitious novel Thin Air published a year earlier, which, it is argued, undermines the credibility of the text as a whole."
      • Motodog, on 12/10/2007, -3/+3Don't tell me you just mentioned creditability then quoted Wikipedia? I'm going to time travel to the point right before you posted that, and backhand you.
    • Smills, on 12/10/2007, -0/+5There are a lot of problems with this. Why would people dissapear but not random parts of the ship. Wouldn't small bits and pieces of people disappear and if a whole person did, wouldn't the area of ship around them. I somehow doubt that the 'time travel' would select people above ship components... This is of course not to mention the multitude of other problems that there are.
      • stevedclarke, on 12/10/2007, -0/+7Didn't you know? Only living stuff can travel through time. If you want to get your mechanical components through, you're going to have to surround it with living tissue and then send it through naked.
    • bluepass, on 12/10/2007, -2/+4Have you ever heard of quantum physics where just taking a glance at something can completely change its state?
  • PDAIsAOk, on 12/09/2007, -11/+171I remember hearing about this several years ago and its an urban legend
    • skatastrophy, on 12/09/2007, -4/+27From http://www.askmen.com/toys/special_feature/29_spec ...

      "First of all, the USS Eldridge was elsewhere on that day. In fact, in 1943, the battleship never went to Philadelphia. It was on convoy duty between New York and the European theater. Also, in 1943, while Einstein did do some consulting work for the Navy, mostly relating to physics of explosives, his unified field theory was not fully developed yet. Actually, it never was."
      • mraustin1337, on 12/10/2007, -3/+22Additionally "AskMen.com" is my most trusted source personally...
      • Portwineboy, on 12/10/2007, -1/+4Well, you have to doubt the veracity of the article when they get a very simple fact wrong. The USS Eldridge wasn't a battleship, it was a destroyer escort. Just about as wrong as you can get. http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/sh-usn/usnsh-e/ ...
      • Mikesendker, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2And the Philadelphia experiment didn't actually take place in Philadelphia. just like the Manhattan project didn't take place in Manhattan
    • UbIwerks, on 12/09/2007, -0/+3Totally, I read this book when I was a kid. It was great entertainment!
      Kinda like a 'US weekly' for geeks. The book never names names, they just say 'says a source' or 'says a close friend'.
    • mediaploy, on 12/09/2007, -0/+2http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChjyCR8V2Bg
      • MrScience, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1And, of course, no mention of Tesla...
    • sporg, on 12/10/2007, -6/+5 This video is full of lies and garbage that never happened. BURIED.
  • jggr, on 12/09/2007, -19/+53While I'm the first in line to throw fuel onto a good conspiracy, I don't think we're really appreciating the massive amounts of energy required to do such a thing.
    /Note: Not a scientist. Never even been near a Holiday Inn Express. But I'm pretty sure the energy requirements to break the space/time barrier is.... Well, a very big number. ;)
    • Flamekebab, on 12/09/2007, -4/+134Like 1.21GW?
    • penguinomint, on 12/09/2007, -14/+31.21 gigawatts to be exact.
      • penguinomint, on 12/09/2007, -1/+20damn where is the delete comment option
        • xptoast, on 12/09/2007, -1/+4I tend to think bury is a good way to successfully purge the comments out of my mental path:)
        • Elephant789, on 12/09/2007, -0/+23If you typed gw instead of gigawatts maybe you would have been first.
    • cheesejaguar, on 12/10/2007, -1/+9You're right. According to Einstein's theories of relativity, we'd need infinity energy.
      • hippyup, on 12/10/2007, -3/+1No he's wrong (but you're right). Infinite != very large number. If you take a very large number, multiply it by another very large number, take that and get the number of permutations of this very large number, get that many nuclear bombs, explode them and count the amount of burritos you can cook with that energy, you still wouldn't have infinite energy.
    • TonyLocNE, on 12/10/2007, -6/+2I remember reading about this years ago.. If I'm not mistaken, the energy they used was in the form of electromagnets, and that is an infinite energy source.

      There's another great conspiracy about how the world can be powered for free with the use of electromagnets but the government keeps it a secret because they would not be able to profit from it.
      • parkermauney, on 12/10/2007, -1/+6Electromagnets are an infinite source of energy, except when you run out of energy to fuel them.
      • Meccabilly, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2Electromagnets are *MAGNETS* powered by *ELECTRICITY*, they are not a source of power. There also does not exist an Infinite energy source.
      • stevedclarke, on 12/10/2007, -1/+3Dude, really...

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnet

        • TonyLocNE, on 12/11/2007, -1/+1wow dude.... pretty ***** awesome. I never knew that before...........

          You are a ***** idiot and if you can't comprehend that I was referring to the conspiracy theory itself and not real life... well then you need to put on a helmet and crack yourself in the head.
          • stevedclarke, on 12/11/2007, -0/+1@TonyLocNE: "the energy they used was in the form of electromagnets, and that is an infinite energy source. "

            If I am wrong then sorry, but it sounds very much like you're saying that electromagnets *are* an infinite energy source.
          • TonyLocNE, on 12/12/2007, -1/+1no that's not really what I was getting at.. I was thinking the 2nd part of my post would have clarified what I was saying, but I guess not.

            Sorry if what I had typed was misleading or not worded correctly.
    • KraftDinner101, on 12/10/2007, -2/+2Estimates are it's about as much energy in 1000 Suns
      • Meccabilly, on 12/10/2007, -0/+5No, it's 1001 suns. Miss that vital last sun and it will not work.
    • moliver000, on 12/10/2007, -0/+3Ugh, what is wrong with you people?
      There is no 'amount of energy' number we need to break in order to travel back in time...
  • phr33ksho, on 12/09/2007, -13/+159Stupid conspiracy theory, if time travel were indeed possible and the U.S. were the only ones to possess it do you really think the world would look the way it does now?
    • johnkyoungoh, on 12/09/2007, -1/+72Well there is always the multi-verse theory.
      • FatPhizzle, on 12/10/2007, -8/+2being?
        • RST1123, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2Being that we we theorize that you're a moron, hence us digging you down.
    • UrinalPooper, on 12/09/2007, -7/+3It would if they encountered some evil power let in through the dimensional vortex... duh.

      (It saddens me that the internet forces the added disclaimer that I am NOT being serious in any way, shape or form.)

      • jon30041, on 12/09/2007, -1/+6So THAT'S where Hillary came from!
        • xptoast, on 12/10/2007, -2/+2I think Hillary needs a disclaimer. Something along the lines of....May say things that aren't really true. All statements falsely made by Hillary are enhanced by what seems to be the woman species in that it is more irrational and crazy than most statements and thoughts/actions. Take Hillary's statements at extreme discretion as you might as well trust my cat more than her.
          ....Then again that disclaimer might go for many politicians.
      • Meccabilly, on 12/10/2007, -0/+0That's just the plot to Event Horizon... However it could the source of all the ***** movies Paul W S Anderson has made.
    • lead2thehead, on 12/09/2007, -3/+16That all depends on which reality you happen to be in.
      • mizzrym, on 12/09/2007, -0/+9Excellent point. This could be considered "better" to what it might be in the other reality.
    • xptoast, on 12/09/2007, -0/+31To answer your questions simply. YES!
    • h4mx0r, on 12/09/2007, -0/+28Well maybe that IS the reason why the world is like it does now...
      • ShaneMcDeath, on 12/10/2007, -0/+3exactlly ! Increasing numbers of unhappy people and a small minority of rich men !
      • virtualball, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2I see what you did there! Clever....
    • NoStoppingUs, on 12/09/2007, -1/+14if its true, maybe this is heaven compared to what could have been?
      • xptoast, on 12/10/2007, -10/+2Lol.....Sorry. I didn't realize you were serious.

        USA and the world sucks so if this is your idea of heaven you must like torturous life as we are forced to live in a country where it sucks because the alternative countries suck more
        • xptoast, on 12/10/2007, -5/+3Why is this dugg down as the usa is decllining very quickly and you all know it. We are stuck here becuase other societys arent as good. Well maybe Alstralia but I dont have money for that plane ride.
    • adooga, on 12/09/2007, -0/+8What reason do you have for believing that time travel - or any technological development - is going to be used for the "greater good"?
    • petebert, on 12/10/2007, -1/+3stupid enough to make it the front page, who's digging these things?
    • alby13, on 12/10/2007, -0/+10Who says we can control time time travel? Maybe we can use it, but not control it.
      • Meccabilly, on 12/10/2007, -1/+1Duuuude. What if we ARE controlling time travel... with our miiiinds.
        • alby13, on 12/19/2007, -0/+1you mean all of ours minds? i guess we would be all moving time forward normally.
    • Thedarklord187, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2technically no your thought is wrong due in part to one of the many supposed paradox's that are thought to be apart of time travel you might catch up on some reading before making blatent statements http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_paradox
    • BlackJackJester, on 12/10/2007, -0/+5Ever seen the Butterfly Effect?
    • Flakor, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2Doctor Who would be soooo *****
    • smpx, on 12/10/2007, -1/+0Let's see... is an uneducated, wasteful republic tearing it's own democracy apart due to corruption and mass governmental control the world's greatest superpower?

    • OneAndOnlySnob, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1That's what they want you to think?
    • Existenz87, on 12/11/2007, -0/+1Why not? Trying to chart the effect of one event in history on another is like trying to chart where raindrops will land. For example, if time travel were real and I go back in time and change something like the amount of money in my parents bank accounts so I will grow up rich instead of poor. Perhaps the money I get for them is invested poorly and my parents are back to being poor. Its difficult to argue about because the motives and flexibility of people and time are constantly in a state of flux.
  • GuacamoleSan, on 12/09/2007, -27/+6This is nuts. @ Jggr, how do we know there's not some phenomenon as where when the electrodes are placed around the ship, it amplifies the power? How can you be sure that much power is required to jump time? Because you believe what they tell you?
    • Stratochief66, on 12/09/2007, -1/+7Who is the mysterious they you speak of. By all means, I encourage you to try to 'amplify the power' by placing electrodes around a ship. jggr believes the evidence before him, he world would be a very different place if all time travel required was a very large amount of electricity and a boat.
      • jamdogg, on 12/09/2007, -0/+2what if this world is the different place.
      • captjc, on 12/10/2007, -0/+3Everyone knows that only 3 things can produce time travel...a flux capacitor connected to a quantum leap accelerator (or a sports car), going really fast in a Starship, or a writer with no understanding physics.
        • DEADB33F, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2Don't forget flying round the world real fast.
          • stevedclarke, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1It's a bird! It's a plane! No!! It's a writer with no understanding of physics!!
    • shinythingy, on 12/09/2007, -0/+5Tell you what, you go out and try it and tell us. You are obviously much more trustworthy
    • xptoast, on 12/09/2007, -1/+2If your power source is contained within that in which is jumping wouldnt the energy either stay with you as the energy has not yet been used?
  • UtahApocalyse, on 12/09/2007, -8/+24ummm its a movie
    • TBR2007, on 12/09/2007, -4/+1And they made a sequel
      • krenzo, on 12/09/2007, -1/+3And boy did that sequel suck. The original was ok.
    • Sterango, on 12/09/2007, -1/+13based off what they know of that which actually happened, duh lol
  • EricSancho, on 12/09/2007, -7/+118If time travel were possible or ever will be possible, we'd be invaded by tourists from the future.
    - I think it was Stephen Hawkins who said something like this (not sure though)
    • smurfsahoy, on 12/09/2007, -1/+29Not if humanity kills itself and never discovers time travel
      • hrvat420, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2your too negative
        • rageguy, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1Zoo keeper protocol + a slight price on time travel + making the rather massive assumption that the tourists in general return to the future + assuming the age of the universe is finite, the actual number of time tourists could be rather limited. Even if time travel becomes as popular as a yearly holiday.
          Also in general time tourists would probably limit themselves to visiting events of fair significance rather than just overcrowding all uninteresting eras of time.

          I agree that the Hawking time tourist paradox is compelling but it doesnt rule out time travel completely, it also smells remarkably like Fermi's alien paradox. The scope of time is remarkably vast compared with the scope of what civilisations may be able to achieve in the future. Its difficult to comprehend but run some figures through your head. A population of 5 billion with a life span of the civilisation of 100 million years time traveling every year during their lives and the universe lasts for 100 trillion years before getting destroyed in some fashion. Thats only 5000 time travelers a year, not exactly an influx if you spread that number across the entire planet.

          Lets assume now you reduce the number of time travelers to maybe a thousand or so astronauts (well, chrononauts), thats on average one time traveler every one thousand years.

          Lets assume now you increase length of time faring civilisation to span the age of the universe, and everyone time travels everyday, and the human population increases to an average of 50 billion people, thats 100 trillion years of civilisation * 365 days of time travel for each * 50 billion members of said civilisation for / 100 trillion years. Thats 18 trillion time travelers per year, we might notice that many, particularly if they had a tendency to make extended stays.

          Its an interesting game to play, its like the drake equation.
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation

          You can adjust the figures to get massive amounts of time travelers per year or minimal depending on the unknown variables that we can guess at. However I believe the drake equation makes the idea of a rare Earth less plausible and I also believe these figures make the idea of a universe without time travel less plausible. The idea of a shorter lived civilisation with a limited population who have access to time travel just seems more plausible to me.

          Still, we dont know... yet :-)
    • oneoverzero, on 12/09/2007, -1/+73It was, but he also proposed an alternative. When we develop time travel the furthest you can go back is to the moment when we developed time travel.
      • vhold, on 12/10/2007, -0/+6Primer is a great low budget sci-fi movie where it works roughly that way. You boot the machine up, and let it run, when you get in, you're being rewound to the point when the machine was first booted up. Even with it that limited, you'll still likely have to watch the movie a few times to even remotely have a clue what's really happening.
        • dadm110, on 12/10/2007, -0/+0Primer is awesome, but oh so very confusing
    • Gamer2k4, on 12/09/2007, -1/+33I think it was South Park who said that.
    • lead2thehead, on 12/09/2007, -6/+4Tourists from the future would alter the time line, potentially preventing them from ever being born.
      • Jackar00, on 12/09/2007, -0/+2TIME PARADOX!!!!
        • somestranger26, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1The meaning of life: See Reddit
      • thewfirestarter, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2Depends on how you view the world. If you believe you have free will, and that the future in undetermined, sure, your statement would be true. However, if you view the world as static, and we're just playing out our role, you have no choice but to travel back in time, otherwise events leading to your birth would not have occurred.
    • mciampa1214, on 12/09/2007, -1/+41If you lived in the future and could travel to any time in history, would you really want to come back to right now?
      • trevah, on 12/09/2007, -1/+17Umm ya. N'SYNC much?
        • mywhitenoise, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2NSYNC has been dead for like 7 years...unless you're typing from the past!!!
      • NoStoppingUs, on 12/09/2007, -5/+5im amazed people are so naive. you should talk to my ww2 vet grandfather. he could probably teach you a few things, and would probably attempt to smack sense into you. im sure it wouldnt work though, because "OH GOD THINGS ARE HORRIBLE WE ARE GOING TO DIEEEE!"

        PATHETIC!
        • Schmidtopolis, on 12/10/2007, -0/+8Maybe the implication was that there are far better times to visit. I didn't see the comment alarmist, I agreed with it, because I would want to visit the early 60's, or drink in a speakeasy during prohibition, or visit feudal Japan... 1990-2000's don't offer much in terms of anything interesting, same with the 80's, and I guess the late 70's were none to interesting as well.

          But you're right, I don't really care what your WW2 vet grandfather has to say. Why? Because I'm pathetic.
          • mywhitenoise, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2Man, I'd go back to the 80's just to see Talking Heads and New Order live.
        • Soave, on 12/10/2007, -0/+3The only reason you don't find it interesting is because you're living in it. The invention and spread of the internet? That's a huge deal. The 90s and 2000s have seen an incredible amount of technological growth, it's not exactly uninteresting.
      • UNL1M1T3D, on 12/09/2007, -2/+2I'll tell you in three years.
      • MadOgre, on 12/10/2007, -2/+4I'd want to go back in time and shag Hillary Clinton when she was young and hot, then convince her to go into med school instead of law and real estate. And to not hook up with Bill.
        • Tyrghast, on 12/10/2007, -0/+5shes a carpet muncher anyway, you wouldn't stand a chance
        • Sucka27, on 12/10/2007, -0/+0You'd need more than a time machine to get to a hot Hillary Clinton.
      • virtualball, on 12/10/2007, -0/+5"Daddy, for our Summer vacation, let's go to the Crusades!'
        "No Suzy. You know what we do every year, we always go back to the exact day the American dollar was equal to the Canadian's. It's tradition."
        "Awwwww....... I'll pack my Justin Timberlake clothes so I'll fit in...."

        That's how it would happen!
    • Biks, on 12/09/2007, -2/+4Imagine people infected with the plague and smallpox from the 1600's were jumping out of time machines into the present. The people of the future wouldn't want us.
    • Cl1mh4224rd, on 12/09/2007, -0/+8> "If time travel were possible or ever will be possible, we'd be invaded by tourists from the future.
      - I think it was Stephen Hawkins who said something like this (not sure though)"

      Not sure if it was Stephen Hawking, but it's possible. Basically, the idea is that if humans, at any point in time (past or future), had discovered time travel, there are certain points in our history that would inevitably attract "sightseers".

      The number of these sightseers would be quite large, as people from multiple points in time would all be converging on a single point in time.
      • diggdallas, on 12/10/2007, -1/+5That would explain the UFO sighting over Manhattan on 9/11
      • mraustin1337, on 12/10/2007, -0/+7I guess you would know if you were experiencing an important point in time by how many people were "sightseeing."

        I see the logic here in that if there is an infinite amount of time spanning ahead and a finite amount of time spanning behind (for the human race -- obviously not the universe) it would make sense that if time travel were possible it would be possible for every moment in human past to be visited an infinite amount of times by time travelers, however I would think that these people would have seen "The Butterfly Effect" unless they just don't like Ashton Kutcher.
      • onionoino, on 12/10/2007, -1/+10Thats why there is such a big crowd in the footage of the jfk assassination
        • trentasaurus, on 12/10/2007, -2/+5Because the President was in town?
    • nycmac247, on 12/10/2007, -3/+1At least learn how to spell his ***** name if you are going to reference him?!?!?!?
    • nickrct, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1Not sure if Hawking said it but its a take on the Fermi Pardox

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox


    • Talena, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2Stephen Hawkins did mention the invasion of future tourists, but he also addressed the restricting oneoverzero mentioned, being that you can only travel back in time to the point where that machine was build.
    • jeff303, on 12/10/2007, -1/+1Not necessarily. If humans do actually manage to make it a few million more years without killing themselves, they may discover it but not really be interested in "visiting" our time. It will just be some hazy distant period before fusion power and space colonization.
    • thr33m, on 12/10/2007, -1/+1This is how I know you guys get way too high way too often
    • Spoomeister, on 12/10/2007, -1/+7Perhaps all the paranoid schizos wandering the insane asylums, or homeless on the street, are actually visitors from the far future. They're not talking to themselves, they're having that one-sided-cell-phone conversation that we in the 21st century find so annoying. Only their cellphone is implanted in their heads.
      • buckrogers1965, on 12/10/2007, -0/+3I've often said that to reintegrate paranoid psychotic schizophrenics back into society all we need to do is to give them little ear pieces with a blue led on them.
    • msgdealer, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1or all time up til now have been boring compared to something that would happen in the future and no one wants to vacation to this time period.
  • hugoguzman, on 12/09/2007, -1/+18This is not new. They've made movies and whatnot about the Philadelphia experiment
  • unreg, on 12/09/2007, -1/+21The movie was pretty good but the sequel sucked
  • antiorblkflag9, on 12/09/2007, -22/+9It's possible to move forward in time, not backwards. There are a couple of paradoxes that prove this.

    Suppose you go back in time and kill your grandfather. Technically you would never have been born. Since you were never born, you wouldn't be able to go back in time to kill your grandfather in the first place.

    -and-

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_paradox
    • Hypomanic, on 12/09/2007, -3/+25Not according to multi-verse theory. If you go back in time and kill your grandfather, you would still exist, because that would be a grandfather in a seperate universe/timeline.
    • NathanielJ, on 12/09/2007, -0/+6Why on Earth did you post an article about the Twin paradox? The Twin paradox has nothing to do with traveling back in time. Furthermore, it's not even actually a paradox (which that Wikipedia article explains in much depth).
    • Gutterpunk, on 12/09/2007, -1/+23What if you killed him and then slept with your grandmother, becoming your own grandfather? My, that would make a good subject for some animated show!
      • jaynemother, on 12/09/2007, -0/+14what if the show also had a sassy beer guzzling robot.
        • stevedclarke, on 12/10/2007, -1/+1Let's call him .... um... I KNOW!!! Lets call him 'Bender'!!
      • Gamer2k4, on 12/09/2007, -7/+2Wouldn't work. Different genetic material would be involved, producing different children and grandchildren.
      • trevah, on 12/09/2007, -3/+1Psh, you totally stole that from Futurama.
      • specialK16, on 12/09/2007, -2/+1Erm, Fry is his own grandfather.

        @trevah: beat me to it.
        • NathanielJ, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2Beat you to what? Explaining the joke to the imaginary populous of people who didn't get it?
      • Talena, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1No way, futurama stole that from some 80's movie
    • AngryBacon, on 12/09/2007, -0/+6Not if you have a paradox correcting time-portal!
    • agildehaus, on 12/09/2007, -0/+4In a scientific context, the idea of the existence of multiverses is a hypothesis not a theory (being that there is absolutely no recognized observational evidence whatsoever). Multiverses are just an idea that would "solve" the paradoxes associated with backwards time travel, nothing more.

      And of course moving forward in time is possible. We don't know how to STOP moving forward in time. Relativity shows us that spacetime can be warped (time dilation due to velocity, gravity) so get close to the speed of light or stand near the event horizon of a black hole for long enough and you'll definitely be able to move forward in time relative to those that aren't in that situation.
      • smurfsahoy, on 12/09/2007, -0/+3I object to the claim that we do not know how to stop moving forward in time. How do you know that we are moving at all? For all any of us knows, we may be standing still indefinitely. The only proof you have of ever having been in the past is memory, which could exist without the past ever happening, since it is just a brain state, and the only proof you have of the future is inductive assumption based on that same memory.

        It might very well be that in fact, we are not moving, and do not know how to move forward in time at all.
        • adooga, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1"Multiverses are just an idea that would "solve" the paradoxes associated with backwards time travel, nothing more."
          That's more like a side effect. Multiverses are a huge (or tiny) factor of quantum physics, there is far more involved than time travel paradoxes.
    • smurfsahoy, on 12/09/2007, -1/+6paradoxes do not disprove time travel, any more than the fact that two objects cannot occupy the same space disproves regular 3 dimensional movement. Any kind of paradoxical behavior simply wouldn't be physically possible, but that's no reason to believe that NON paradoxical behavior across time is also not possible.

      Hypothetically, think of time like a prewoven tapestry in both directions, which gets away from the confusing point of moving forward or backward. You need not think of it as moving at all. It's all just there at once, and has a requirement that there cannot be any causal inconsistencies, like you say. Now imagine that the tapestry includes me in two places, but nothing I do in either place contradicts the other. Why would there be any problem with that? In fact, it could potentially be NECESSARY for me to travel back in time. Perhaps I introduced my mother and father, before hopping back forward in time again. If you watch the show heroes, it works like this (except for the end of world scenarios that are changed. That's just for dramatic effect. Most time travel is purposefully made very consistent).

      Now, time travel is still disproven in many other ways via theoretical physics and math, etc. But if you didn't happen to know about those, paradoxes would not themselves be sufficient to disprove time travel.
      • LBobRife, on 12/09/2007, -2/+2There are many theories about the way time works. If you are getting yours from popular tv shows, you are not going to make a convincing argument.
        • ispeakasian, on 12/09/2007, -0/+2Touché!
        • smurfsahoy, on 12/09/2007, -0/+3Um, I was using it as an example of how that theory works, that lots of people reading digg might be able to relate to. I didn't GET the theory from heroes... In fact, I couldn't have, even, due to the inconsistencies in the time theory of the show that I pointed out in my comment.
        • adooga, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2Hey that's not how you spell "douche"
    • hoshizakistar, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1from the twin paradox article you posted: "Einstein considered this to be a natural consequence of Special Relativity, not a paradox as some suggested..."
    • Mikesendker, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1If paradoxes make it impossible to time travel backward than that disproves this video. If you can't go backwards than when they "go forwards to check the future" they can't come back. It' s a waste of time.

      And besides that, I always thought paradoxes were just something that would destroy the universe if someone tried to make one, not prevent time travel from being possible.

      And who's heard of the Montauk Project? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montauk_Project

      And just as interesting, who else noticed the references to the Philadelphia experiment in Assassin's Creed? I actually just learned about the Philadelphia experiment two weeks ago after beating it and researching all the hidden clues in the end.
    • buckrogers1965, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1The main reason that you can never go back in time is because "back" no longer exists. Every particle in the Universe is in constant motion and is affecting every particle in the universe. In order to go back in time you would have to recreate the entire universe, every particle in it, and give every particle the same momentum and quantum state. And you can't just create the particles and position them. You also have to distribute all the light waves and radiation between all the participles identically to the original. This would take more energy than the universe contains. And because of quantum level variations, even then the time line would diverge from what you wanted.

      There aren't infinite copies of the old universe stacked somewhere waiting for our consciousness to "light up" again with awareness. After all, where would you put something the size of the universe?
  • lewikee, on 12/09/2007, -1/+48Reminds me of Red Alert's Chronosphere.
    • av4rice, on 12/09/2007, -0/+10According to the Red Alert story, the game's Gap Generators were developed using the Philadelphia Experiment
      • johnnykalma, on 12/10/2007, -2/+3no it was the chronosphere. ive got the game manual right in front of me ;)
    • Coolone84, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2Gap Generators would put Fog of War over your units within its range. The Chronosphere was the Allied super weapon using time time travel as opposed to the Soviet Iron Curtain.

      Those cruiser ships could beat the ***** out of anything though :)
  • jmoo, on 12/09/2007, -1/+36Yes it was such an amazing event that they went on to make a movie about it - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087910/
    This is usually regarded as a hoax. This video looks like one I watched years ago.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Experime ...
  • bpacana, on 12/09/2007, -13/+5thats bullshyt!
    • ispeakasian, on 12/09/2007, -0/+10Hey! You spelled "*****" wrong!
    • UNL1M1T3D, on 12/09/2007, -0/+5Don't worry friend you can swear here on Digg.
  • Sornos, on 12/09/2007, -4/+95This whole thing is a stupid legend. What the Philadelphia experiment was trying to attempt was to make the ship invisible to RADAR. It became greatly exaggerated when people say it went invisible, it means only to RADAR nothing more.
    • unreg, on 12/09/2007, -1/+19Actually they were trying to make the ships magnetically passive to mines. The shipyard was equipped with a facility for degaussing the ships. This facility, with it's myriad of heavy electrical cabling is the impetus of the legend.
      • UNL1M1T3D, on 12/09/2007, -1/+15Imagine how crazy it would look to degauss a ship.
        • Tyrghast, on 12/10/2007, -1/+8you sir, unlimited, have made me rofl harder than i ever have on digg...
    • Seeker135, on 12/10/2007, -4/+2Since you were there, can you tell us the name of the carrier observing the experiment?
  • DeFex, on 12/09/2007, -8/+156lol. how much did the earth move around the sun and around the galaxy in 4 hours. the ship would reappear in space.
    • unreg, on 12/09/2007, -1/+43Not if you left a trail of bread crumbs
    • LBobRife, on 12/09/2007, -7/+16Disregarding the obviously false story, what you said is not necessarily true. The idea is that it moved through time differently. It may have been moving through space at the same rate as always, since it was on the planet to begin with. All spacial influences may have been intact.
    • Joomal, on 12/09/2007, -3/+8Not exactly.

      Even though time-space seems linear to you, it is known that time-space is actually warped by massive solid objects (i.e. the earth.) This massive solid object would create a point of reference in time-space because it is in fact, warping time-space in it's entirely.
      • epiffffany, on 12/10/2007, -0/+4As a physicist, I have to say... wtf are you talking about?

        Yes, "space-time" warps around mass but how did you come up with creating reference points? Did the Spaghetti Monster release a gravity API?
    • inobla, on 12/09/2007, -2/+19Yep... and that's also assuming that the ship somehow kept a fixed position relative to the sun. But how much did our solar system move within our galaxy in the same time? Or how about our galaxy in the universe? I agree, that ship would never have been seen again.
    • wautrey, on 12/10/2007, -7/+13You see, this is where you're wrong. Theoretical travel in time has nothing at all to do with euclidean space whatsoever. If you treat time travel as travel along a forth dimensional place, and ONLY travel along said dimensional plane then the relative location of the earth has nothing to do with anything. Imagine it this way: in analogy you exist in three spatial dimensions that we can define. We can travel up, down, or across. Length, width, height. You can travel along any ONE of these dimensions without affecting at all whatsoever your position relative to the other dimensions involved.

      Stephen Hawking discussed this at length in "A History of Space and Time." It's all theoretical, just like your argument, so to call "time travel stupid" is not only in and of itself idiotic, but is very close minded. Science has NEVER progressed by "stopping" making attempts to achieve a goal. You have to try DIFFERENT theories and approaches. Your goal in science is NEVER to conclude anything, but to open up the possibility of more questions.
      • evlpanda, on 12/10/2007, -0/+9OK, OK so the ship doesn't move in space. Unfortunately everything else has. Get it?

        If I am Space X (a collection of 3 points) and Time Y and then I move from Time Y to Time Z then yes, I'll still be at Space X, unfortunately at Time Z Earth is no longer at Space X and I am where Earth was, or will be.

        ... which is a pretty neat way to travel through space.
      • mmortal03, on 12/10/2007, -3/+3Dude, that is what he is saying, though. Your position in space wouldn't change, only your position in time would. However, the Earth's position in space WOULD change, as would its position in time. You would either end up stuck in the rock of Earth, or in space, or in the atmosphere or something, because the Earth wouldn't be in the same place when you reappeared. In order to reappear in the same location on Earth, you would have to move WITH the Earth, not stay in the same position.
      • Creamedweasel, on 12/10/2007, -2/+2Actually, if you look at every moment in time as already having happened, imagine them as snapshots and that you experiencing time is just your conscience traveling from one snapshot to the next, it is very well possible that you can travel through time while all the conditions of time-space still applying (like gravity). This was proposed in a popular science magazine I read a few years back. Many (infinite -1) snapshots of time, where each position of everything in the universe is recorded, and our conscience drifts from one to the next, and that is how we live with time.
      • epiffffany, on 12/10/2007, -2/+2Actually, you are just solidifying his argument further. :)
  • stackered, on 12/09/2007, -2/+29...the delorean? obviously.
  • antiorblkflag9, on 12/09/2007, -1/+10.....and it's really really poorly done...
  • Ghoztt, on 12/09/2007, -24/+14Time travel doesn't exist, and will never exist.
    • bingo000, on 12/09/2007, -11/+3Simply put.
    • lewikee, on 12/09/2007, -2/+32You traveled to the future to make sure?
      • DooM, on 12/09/2007, -0/+15I'm travelling to the future right now - just really really slowly.
      • Teh_Shiz, on 12/09/2007, -1/+4You know, I feel that if time travel were to ever exist, than in just one moment in time, there is an infinite window of time to travel to any moment of time ever. So, in a time of infinite time, lets say somebody were to travel to the 1400's. Then they would return to say the exact time they left. Then they would go on another trip. See, they make a trip, and then make another trip at the same time, once they have returned.

        Based on this, if there were ever to a time machine, I'm sure somebody would have visited us, and ***** everything up by now. It would have to be regulated too thoroughly by the government to protect any average Joe from visiting any time, and ***** it all over.

        I found the video interesting. Still skeptical about it though.
    • mattes5, on 12/09/2007, -3/+74I have a time machine at home. It only goes forward at regular speed. Its essentially a cardboard box that i wrote time machine on with sharpie.
      • ispeakasian, on 12/09/2007, -0/+10ZOMFG I DO TOO! That's really creepy ... You'd think that the government would regulate these things ...
      • triblinator, on 12/10/2007, -2/+5I have a cardboard box, too. Funny story: I once used it to duplicate myself, but came to find that all of my doubles were as much of a jerk as I am, and ended up getting me in more trouble than it was worth.
    • lead2thehead, on 12/09/2007, -3/+4Not true. Experiments have shown that you can warp time (speed it up or slow it down) by exerting a gravitational force on an object. So we already know how to travel forward in time. Going backward is a different story.
      • carpespasm, on 12/10/2007, -2/+2from one way of looking at it you are traveling back in time if you are in an earlier state than the the area around you, so if you speed yourself up til time slowed down then let everything else temporally pass you you'd essentially be in the past compared to their point of view. it's not going backward, but it's an interesting way to look at it.
    • sixsidepentagon, on 12/09/2007, -2/+4There are theories that one could use light to bend space time, and it actually worked out with Einstein's theories. Last I heard was that they were constructing a machine that was like a spiral light kind of thing. They were going to see if they could send a neutron back in time. And it could only send things back to another time machine, which would explain why there aren't tourists from the future yet.
      • dawnraid, on 12/09/2007, -1/+1yeah i watched that thing too, it had some African American professor as the presenter it was actually quite good.
      • TheDrop, on 12/09/2007, -0/+2Guy's name is Professor Ronald Mallet @ the University of Connecticut

        http://youtube.com/watch?v=V7vpw4AH8QQ (clip from Discovery/TLC)
      • teckieee, on 12/10/2007, -1/+1its is proven that time doenst really exist, read about the dark matter thing.
    • rand21althor, on 12/09/2007, -1/+5*/throws a blanket over TARDIS

      Yeah, there's no such thing as time travel. Yeah....
    • Gamer2k4, on 12/09/2007, -1/+4The funny thing is...in order to prove your statement, it would have to be false.
    • morcheeba, on 12/09/2007, -4/+19Man will never fly. And speeds of over 15 mph on a motorcycle are not achievable because the air would literally be sucked out of the riders lungs. Man was never meant to cope with speeds in excess of 30 mph -- if anyone goes that fast, surely they will go crazy. The speed of sound will never be broken. Walking on the moon? Are you crazy?
      • accountstube, on 12/10/2007, -2/+3point taken. people are supid. just because we haven't figured it out yet or the average joe can't explain it doesn't mean it will never happen.
    • quaxon, on 12/09/2007, -1/+4Time travel actually does exist, except it doesnt work on anything but photons for the moment.
      • aristideau, on 12/10/2007, -0/+3I thought time didnt exist for photons
      • irinotecan, on 12/10/2007, -0/+5You are thinking of Tachyons. Einstein's theory of relativity says that you can travel backwards in time if you travel faster than the speed of light, but in order to do that, you must already be traveling faster than light, and you cannot slow down to slower than the speed of light. Tachyon's are theoretical particles that do exactly this.
    • adooga, on 12/10/2007, -0/+4Thanks, Ghoztt, for clearing that up. Now that you've explained it to me I see what you mean.
    • Tyrghast, on 12/10/2007, -4/+1DONT BE HATIN
    • Talena, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1Clock's on satellites orbiting the earth use different clocks then we do down here, to compensate the difference in time, so yea, time travel is real and proven
  • egonSchiele, on 12/09/2007, -6/+23oh come on people, of course its fake. Yes, time travel is *technically* possible, and no, it has NOT been done yet. Didn't anyone notice that none of the people talking had any names/credentials?
    • coviecarbine, on 12/09/2007, -0/+13*Theoretically*
    • LBobRife, on 12/09/2007, -0/+6Well, we have proven time dilations or whatever you want to call it when a fast moving object moves slower through time, as proven by a atomic clock on earth and one in space starting out the same but ending up a few nanoseconds different over a period of time.
    • ProjectMeat, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2I like how the testimonials were from a crazy-eyed chubby guy and a man with a molester-stache. I think it's safe to assume he had a pony tail.
    • Talena, on 12/10/2007, -0/+3Time travel is real, but now only possible on very small scale, in example you travel faster through time when you descent a mountain
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation
  • loconet, on 12/09/2007, -3/+20How do they manage to keep a straight face? lol
  • willb285, on 12/09/2007, -1/+34Time travel is stupid, atleast in our traditional views about it. If someone enters a time "portal", rip, flux, whatever you want to call it...if someone enters one to travel forwards or back in time and leave that portal at the same place they entered it, just in a different time period...well that just doesn't work, the Earth orbits, and very, very rarely will it be in the same place when you leave that time portal as when you entered it. It just doesn't work, you would come out floating in space. Even if a way to travel through time was possible, we would need to overcome this before we were able to travel more than a very, very short amount of time.
    • stilesja, on 12/09/2007, -1/+9Great point. Makes perfect sense. Unless the earth was stationary and the universe revolved around it, to travel back in time you must also travel to the space the earth occupied in the universe at that time.
      • Gutterpunk, on 12/09/2007, -2/+14If only there was a way of predicting where celestial bodies would be in advance...
        • stilesja, on 01/17/2008, -0/+1You are kidding right? Of course we can predict where things will be and have been. We know haley's comet comes every 76 years right? The problem is getting there.
    • yubpro, on 12/09/2007, -0/+10It doesn't just stop with the earth's orbit around the sun, but our sun's movement through the milkyway, the milkyway's movement around other galaxies, and our group of galaxies' movement through the universe, and who knows if it goes any futher...
    • juckman, on 12/10/2007, -1/+5Well, what if the portal was bound to the Earth by gravity? When the portal is made, it is obviously following a momentum because it is not moving from its spot when you enter it. So following the laws of inertia, the portal would keep up with the Earth when you exit it however many years later.
      • archer104, on 12/10/2007, -1/+16But what if there's a cow there?
        • JamesTorrence, on 12/11/2007, -0/+1or a cow way above you, standing on the mountain you're buried in.
    • mihkeltt, on 12/10/2007, -0/+4everywhere that timetravel is depicted, there's always the same phenomenon - one enter a "portal"/"void" (whatever), stays there for a period of time (the exact time spent in the past/future) and then exits through the portal. now why is it that the time spent in the past/future equals the time spent away from the present. to avoid being stuck in the space when returning back from the past/future, one would just travel back to the exact time and place when he entered. From the present point of view, that would seem as if the timetraveller enters and exits at the exact same moment, whereas spending a much longer period of time in the past/future. is it too far fetched?
    • Perleeeze, on 12/10/2007, -3/+4Erm...

      You've assumed too much here. Time travel is entirely possible according to traditional science.
      There are at least a couple of ways in which it occurs theoretically:
      1. Travel into a wormhole that joins two distant points in space. If the two ends of the wormhole are sufficiently far apart (i.e. further apart than light is able to travel in the time it takes you to enter the wormhole and come out the other side), then you have travelled through time as well as space as you would be observable in two different places at the same time.
      2. Open two ends of a wormhole and freeze light at one end of the wormhole. This creates a Bose-Einstein Condensate at one end of the wormhole, which means that anything that is at that end is fixed in time compared to the other end. By entering the wormhole and freezing light at one end, the frozen end does not move in time respective to the other end, thus creating a time bubble. This is the premise of the TV series Lost, in which the island is in a time bubble which has to be reset every 108 minutes. Freezing light has been performed and reproduced practically in labs every day since its discovery two years ago. Just need to find that handy wormhole - of course, that's what the Big Hadron Collider is designed for!
      But, there is a problem generally with time travel in that it can only ever be forwards in time, not backwards. if you subscribe to Everert's Parallel Worlds theory, then every quantum event results in the spawning of a new parallel world. This means that we are constantly moving forward in time leaving an infinite number of parallel worlds behind us. So, if travel backward in time were possible, how would we ever know that it had occurred if the time traveller never reaches our one world out of an infinity of possible past parallel worlds?
      • maotx, on 12/10/2007, -0/+41. It takes the sun's light eight minutes to reach Earth. If a man synced his watch (capable of keeping perfect time) with another watch on Earth, and then traveled the same distance away as our sun (years to get there), he would be eight light minutes away, but his watch would still be in sync with the watch on Earth. The only factor distance has on time is observation. The man would be able to see the Earth as it was eight minutes ago, but thats it. Time is still elapsing the same for both locations.

        2. If you freeze light, it become pitch black. That has no influence on the movement of the objects which are no longer reflecting light. Therefore, freezing light has nothing to do with time, in a sense.
    • nycmac247, on 12/10/2007, -5/+2Yes, you know everything and therefore "it can't be!!"
      Men will never land on the moon, either -- 'I did the math --- it's impossible!!!"
      !!!111!!
    • Talena, on 12/10/2007, -1/+1That time travel is not practical doesn't mean it isn't possible
    • ChristianMagic, on 12/10/2007, -2/+3My reason why I don't think it's possible is simply because there is no such thing as time. Things just happen and we assign time to them. I also hate when people try to use clocks to measure time going slower cause they are just measuring how fast the gears move/whatever type of clock it is.
      • HerbSolo, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1there's no gears in an atomic clock, it measures the emission that occurs when a CS133 Atom changes from a higher to a lower energy-level.
        Quantum theory states that the energy levels of an atom have quantized energies (thus quantum-theory), so the particle that is emitted when an the electron in an atom changes to a lower energy level has a discrete Energy. (That's why Na-Lamps emit monochromatic light.) discrete Energy of course means discrete frequency, that's why atomic clocks are exact.
        The radiation of the atomic clocks in GPS-Satellites has the exact same frequency as here on earth so the "gears" aren't working any different, the atomic clocks don't go faster in their orbit, time does. (special theory of relativity)
        If they hadn't included those considerations in the designs for GPS, it simply wouldn't work.
        http://www.astronomy.ohio-state.edu/~pogge/Ast162/ ...

        That's physics 101, and if you say "how FAST the gears move" that's just a dumbed down definition of time, it doesn't in any way contradict its existence. I don't say i have a ***** idea what this time-thing is, but it definitely exists, no matter how you define it.
    • Sirbighands, on 12/10/2007, -0/+0Oh, I didn't know you were so versed in the fine arts of time travel!
  • K4Lic0, on 12/09/2007, -4/+2I saw something about this on the History Channel about a year ago. Seems like a hoax to me.
    • StarManta, on 12/09/2007, -5/+1If you saw it on the History Channel I can just about guarantee it's *****...
      • mickcn, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1Everything is one-sided on the history channel.
  • GfunkGbuss, on 12/09/2007, -0/+34...Aperture Science's Borealis?
    • inobla, on 12/09/2007, -0/+2I thought exactly the same thing when that part came up on Episode II... They kinda stole the Philadelphia Experiment myth.
    • mindule, on 12/09/2007, -0/+1I mean, it was called project Rainbow
    • PaintGamma, on 12/09/2007, -0/+12Gordon Freeman walks into a bar. Except he didn't walk in but came in through the nonexistent back wall.
    • aldenhg, on 12/10/2007, -6/+2We do what we must because we can.
      The Portal Cake:
      1 18.25 oz chocolate cake mix
      1 can prepared coconut frosting
      3/4 cups vegetable oil
      4 large eggs
      1 cup semisweet chocolate chips
      3/4 cups butter/margarine
      1 2/3 cups granulated sugar
      2 cups all-purpose flour
      don't forget garnishes such as
      fish-shaped crackers
      fish shaped candies
      fish shaped solid waste
      fish shaped dirt
      fish shaped ethyl benzine
      pull-and-peel licorice
      fish shaped volatile organic compounds and sediment shaped sediment
      candy coated peanut butter pieces shaped like fish
      1 cup lemon juice
      alpha resins
      unsaturated polyester resin
      fiberglass surface resins
      and volatile malted milk impoundments
      9 large egg yolks
      12 medium geosynthetic membranes
      1 cup granulated sugar
      an entry called how to kill someone with your bare hands
      2 cups rhubarb - sliced
      2/3 cups granulated rhubarb
      1 tablespoon all purpose rhubarb
      1 teaspoon grated orange rhubarb
      3 tablespoons rhubarb on fire
      1 large rhubarb
      1 cross bore hole electromagnetic imaging rhubarb
      2 tablespoons rhubarb juice
      adjustable aluminum head positioner
      slaughter electric needle injector
      cordless electric needle injector
      injector needle driver
      injector needle gun
      cranial caps
      and it contains proven preservatives, deep penetration agents and gas and odor control chemicals that will deodorize and preserve putrid tissue
  • nycmac247, on 12/09/2007, -12/+32The "greys" are us in the future - among other issues we have become super smart but like highly functional autistic people.
    This is why they are coming back for the bio samples (cows, humans, hybrids); to repair themselves and awaken their "junk" DNA.
    If you want to be a grey just keep eating all that High Fructose Corn Syrup and GMOs for another thousand years...
    also, humans, keep ***** where you eat (ex: depleted uranium) and chopping down the Amazon (the lungs of the planet).
    sorry.

    • Sterango, on 12/09/2007, -3/+17cool theory that i've heard elsewhere and I wouldn't discount at all.
    • Gutterpunk, on 12/09/2007, -3/+2You mean that by eating high fructose corn syrup and GMO, we'll be able to find out how to time travel at will?

      Anyone have any spare Coke and glow in the dark watermelon for me?
    • kevlarbaboon, on 12/09/2007, -4/+13lol wut
    • KLowD9x, on 12/09/2007, -3/+9Depleted uranium is *****?

      No wonder I feel so much lighter after taking a monster crap.
      • adooga, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2depleted uranium is ***** != ***** is depleted uranium.
  • Nekiruhs, on 12/09/2007, -2/+3Borealis? Is that you?
  • mattes5, on 12/09/2007, -0/+10great scott!
  • mbonzo531, on 12/09/2007, -3/+57Who's gonna call the myth busters?
    • sdubois92, on 12/09/2007, -2/+24I'll call Penn & Teller
    • bmystry, on 12/10/2007, -1/+5You get the magicians ill bring the clowns
    • chokeaduck, on 12/10/2007, -1/+6I remember an interview with Mythbusters said that if they had enough $ they would try to go to the moon using technology from 1960's. I wish they'd setup a paypal page for donations, I'd be so in.
    • mickcn, on 12/10/2007, -7/+2I ***** hate that show.
      • Andrewmatt, on 12/10/2007, -4/+2I agree. I dunno why you're getting dugg down.
  • ItsMyWii, on 12/09/2007, -14/+2Great article! I just got my own free Macbook! >:O
    • megarobotguy, on 12/09/2007, -0/+3Huh? What article are you talking about? It was a video.
    • crushfan, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2Give me my ad-driven v1@gra link, bitch!
  • S1c0, on 12/09/2007, -0/+23Myth or not.... what happened to Tesla's work??? Hey? Look into it more....
    • inobla, on 12/09/2007, -1/+4Tesla did a lot of amazing and wonderful things for science and technology, but time travel was not one of them.
      • TomTruelle, on 12/10/2007, -0/+4Sure he did, It was just stolen by the US navy...

        /s
    • sifeliz, on 12/09/2007, -0/+6I have, just wrote a paper on it. I never realized what an asshole Edison was. Also never realized that the SDI was based on Tesla's work. He had intended it to be used by smaller countries to defend themselves from the Nuclear Superpowers. Way to go America!
      • bigsteve, on 12/10/2007, -0/+3He's why Hollywood is on the west coast. It's actually a really funny story...
    • Tyrghast, on 12/10/2007, -0/+7If only we could find tesla's personal journal, the design of his mind on paper may be riddled with secrets of the power of electricity....
    • JrGhoull, on 12/10/2007, -1/+3i hear (at least i think it was him) he had built a huge electric gun/cannon...somehow managed to focus the electrsity as a beam, and fired a shot that went a couple hundred (or maybe thousand) miles.
      • buckrogers1965, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2Yeah, Tesla also managed to melt the power lines to his remote house several times drawing too much power.
  • Paulish, on 12/09/2007, -5/+124I am moving forward in time as we speak. Of course time travel is possible :P
    • aristideau, on 12/10/2007, -0/+23Yeah me too, at the rate of one second per second
      • JamesTorrence, on 12/11/2007, -0/+1Jesus Christos, I wish I could go back in time and avoid this Joke.
    • mihkeltt, on 12/10/2007, -5/+2well i would put it this way, the acceleration we're moving through time is 0. timetravelling is basically changing that acceleration either to the positive side (moving towards the future) or to the negative side (moving towars the past).
    • TomTruelle, on 12/10/2007, -3/+1Yeah we get it... Its been repeated at least 3-4 times already.
    • lifeisgood88, on 12/10/2007, -0/+8"I have a time machine at home. It only goes forward at regular speed. It's essentially a cardboard box and on the outside I wrote 'Time Machine' in Sharpie."
      -Demetri Martin
    • wordglue, on 12/10/2007, -0/+4race ya to the finish!!
    • thr33m, on 12/10/2007, -2/+1Mind boddleing comment there, buddy.
    • 1randomguy08, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2Yeah kinda trippy isn't it? Especially when you dont know whats going to happen tomorrow let a known what is going to happen in 5,10,20 years from now. . Tomorrow we could have a tsunami, a massive earth quake, war, a heart attack, etc. Think of all the ***** your grandparents went through, ww2,cold war,threat of Armageddon, berlin wall collapsing, natural disasters, social change i.e equal rights for blacks and females, changes in technology i.e introduction of internet,mobile phones, computers, tv's,video games etc. Now we got ***** like global warming,peak oil and other stuff which god knows how they would affect our lives (if they would at all) but perhaps it won't be global warming,massive recession or peak oil which affects us the most probably something unexpected like sept 11 or god knows =p
    • jimbobaii, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2Ahh, but are you moving forward through it, or is it moving past you as you 'stand still'?
  • HomeRunHomer, on 12/09/2007, -2/+7I guess the Iraq war didn't turn out the way the had forecast it. So much for time machine.
    • tchynerd, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2Unless the Time machine is controlled by Democrats ( Pelosi)
  • ScottLSU, on 12/09/2007, -1/+12the guys on the video are no0bs. it appears that they have never taken relativity 101.
  • jawchild, on 12/09/2007, -1/+3pff. my wife's cavalier time travels all the time. put some plutonium in there, and you are good to go. The video though.....REALLY tough to swallow.
  • inobla, on 12/09/2007, -0/+25Any sailors wearing tinfoil hats on that ship would have been safe from harm!
  • vinecrawler, on 12/09/2007, -1/+12very poor acting by the interviewees...
  • OEMHumanoid, on 12/09/2007, -0/+46What did John Titor say about this?
    • UNL1M1T3D, on 12/10/2007, -1/+8I was wondering when someone would bring up Titor.
    • jotty, on 12/10/2007, -1/+3i loved that little guy
    • nycmac247, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2American civil war at the time the North American Union is announced?
      (OPEC gives up dollar first and US Govt says that they need a new "Euro like" Amero currency to "stay competitive" - this leads to the NAU as an extension of NAFTA and GATT
      • stevedclarke, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1Why does that remind me of Ghost in the Shell?
    • aAnaRchY, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2He didn't told anything about this, he only mention CERN
  • SomeoneSpecial, on 12/09/2007, -4/+13The government can time travel yet Bush still got elected. Lies.
    • Richandler, on 12/10/2007, -0/+6Where in your right mind do think the government didn't want Bush elected.
  • Carrot1991, on 12/09/2007, -0/+5Wasn't it stated that a time machine would have to be the size of a galaxy for it to work?
    Better start building.
    • Talena, on 12/10/2007, -1/+5Computers used to be the size of a room
    • Meccabilly, on 12/10/2007, -1/+0Who 'stated' that?
      • buckrogers1965, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2It's common knowledge. Any wormholes less than the size of a galaxy have too steep a gravitational gradient and the tidal forces pull you out into a single atom wide strand of spaghetti.
  • Jegzzy, on 12/09/2007, -6/+6FAKE
  • xchino, on 12/09/2007, -9/+13Please digg this crap down, this is in the same line as Alien Abductions and saying the moon landing was a hoax. Notice how there is absolutely zero science in this. All of the people onboard the U.S.S. Eldridge have been accounted for and everyone says that there was never even such an experiment, much less the dime store sci fi results. The video of the animals in cages is footage from a nuclear test done in the pacific ocean during WWII. From whaqt I understand the whole urban legend started from a letter sent from a merchant marine to his brother.
    • Carrot1991, on 12/09/2007, -3/+4digg down?

      someones been poppin pills
    • dawnraid, on 12/09/2007, -4/+3i dugg you down, not the article.
    • adooga, on 12/10/2007, -3/+3I too, have no trouble in digging you down.
    • pukedukem,