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- mmijatov, on 07/28/2008, -5/+82Anything can be art. If I take a ***** in a cup of ramen noodles while wearing a chicken suit, it's art.
- rebotfc, on 07/28/2008, -7/+70yes.
- Otto, on 07/29/2008, -2/+332 chicks, 1 cup?
- inactive, on 07/29/2008, -3/+33yea and porn is art too
- MWeather, on 07/29/2008, -2/+23If it is, I won't have to pay any taxes this year, due to my generous donations to the arts.
- PrintScrn12, on 07/29/2008, -7/+26Art generally skilful work where the prime importance is self expression of the artist and the emotive reaction of the audience. Isn't that the case with stripping. It just happens the expression of the artist and emotive response are of the so-called "base desires".
Of course simply as a showcase of a mix of natural and man-made beauty. Just as any extraordinarily beautiful creation may be deemed art why can't dances be deemed art based on their beautiful eroticism.
Or is there some heavy prudism in the consensus of what is and isn't art? Evoke feelings of love, sadness, happiness or shame for it's own sake and it's artisitic. Evoke lust, sorry we don't like that. It's below us. It's below art. - EtherGnat, on 07/29/2008, -2/+17How could dancing clothed be art but dancing naked not? Are a few ounces of fabric really the difference between what is art and what isn't?
- s0m31john, on 07/29/2008, -4/+18Telling people how to run their PRIVATE business must be an art, a lot of people are good at it.
- drmangrum, on 07/29/2008, -2/+12I really wish puritanical ***** would stop trying to push THEIR morals on everyone else. If you don't like strip clubs, then DON'T GO TO THEM. Stop making laws that target them and they would stop inventing methods to circumvent those laws. If you don't like the signage that goes with the club, then makes laws about that.
Like that stupid ass law where the girls have to wear latex over their nipples or even the no-touching laws due to fear of prostitution. News flash *****, if a girl is going to pick up a john, an arms length of distance isnt going to stop her. - MRintheKeys, on 07/29/2008, -2/+11He's ***** dead dude. I dont think Aristotle cares what this guy does with a cup of ramen noodles and a chicken suit.
- coyote1284, on 07/29/2008, -1/+8I see your classic porn and raise you "Behind the Green Door"
Seriously, nice reference! - aaronoog, on 07/29/2008, -2/+9Have you ever seen "The Opening of Misty Beethoven"? Now that's art.
- trer, on 07/29/2008, -3/+10Art is undefinable. To have a court decide what is and what is not art is to open the door on stifling artistic freedom and creativity. We would no longer have art anymore. The only time gov't should step in and regulate art is when people are being used against their will to create art (e.g. childern, etc.). I haven't seen many cases in America where a woman was forced to work at a strip club; they are usually willing participants. How about letting them make their own decisions with their lives?
- inactive, on 07/29/2008, -4/+10Fine or liberal?
- mqchen, on 07/29/2008, -1/+7Actually, here in Norway the strip clubs recently convinced the federal judges that stripping is an art, hence they don't need to pay VAT. It was compared with stand-up comedy, ballet, theater, etc.
Articles are in Norwegian:
http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/artikkel.php?ar ...
http://www.adressa.no/nyheter/innenriks/article766 ...
http://www.dagbladet.no/kultur/2006/12/05/485082.h ... - sodade, on 07/29/2008, -2/+8The real question is: are all christian morals truly moral, or are some of them just ways for douchebags to judge others and feel superior?
- newmatic, on 07/29/2008, -3/+8Wow, I had to get this far down the page to find the misogyny... good job, Digg.
And plenty of strippers, male and female, do it for the rush of performing in front of people, making them feel something--the same reason that many actors and singers do what they do. Also, it's not the performer's intent that makes something art or not art. It's the resulting performance. - EtherGnat, on 07/29/2008, -1/+6Yes, stripping is an art when they're good. Or very, very, very bad.
- pr0w3ss, on 07/29/2008, -4/+9YES!
nsfw.
I would like to enter exhibit A.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=C-peZkuVosc
and exhibit B.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6KnUW9N3Zo - fitqueenb, on 07/28/2008, -3/+8I guess it all depends on how good they are, men or women...
- EtherGnat, on 07/29/2008, -3/+7If you dig deep enough most artists' (and the rest of us too) motivations are selfish. Whether it's the money or the attention or just the need to express some inner demons. If you make motive part of the definition of art you're opening a huge can of worms.
- Coven, on 07/29/2008, -1/+5boobies and corn...just 2 parts of a well rounded breakfast.
- pinniger, on 07/29/2008, -1/+5Only if the dancer's name is Art.
- taketheleap, on 07/29/2008, -1/+5pics or it didn't happen
- InnerGalbladder, on 07/29/2008, -7/+11Please don't take away my strip clubs, i likes the boobies. If you take them away, all I'll have is my corn.
- dave122, on 07/29/2008, -3/+6http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm
- XeRoX2k2, on 07/29/2008, -0/+3yes,but does it blend?
- zip000, on 07/29/2008, -1/+4I have, and I would suggest that no one Google that guy unless you are interested in self portraits of the guy with weird things in his ass.
Sure it's art, but it isn't art that I really want to look at. (and definitely NSFW) - krisscofield, on 07/29/2008, -4/+6Porn is art.
- inactive, on 07/29/2008, -2/+4maybe
- InnerGalbladder, on 07/29/2008, -3/+5I'm in Johnston, really close to there, I've gotten my share of lumber there.
- dave122, on 07/29/2008, -6/+8Buried as false... I live in des moines and there is a full-nude stripclub 10 minutes from my house, consequently it's called "the lumberyard... where real men go to get wood". Perhaps it is classified as an art center, but I've never heard of such a thing... not that I would ever frequent these kinds of establishments. Clubs just can't serve booze if they are full nude, consequently you can BYOB to them.
- CyclonusRIP, on 07/29/2008, -1/+3The sketch pads the article mentions are actually booklets of $1 bills purchased in the back right next to the ATM.
- walshgopher, on 07/29/2008, -0/+2you can't define it by talent. Compare the Mona Lisa to a kinder gardener's macaroni picture. They are both still art.
- Suricou, on 07/29/2008, -0/+2Lead2thehead, I still make more sense than modern art.
- inactive, on 07/29/2008, -1/+3It involves more skill than any conceptual art.
- inactive, on 07/29/2008, -1/+3Exactly, but that doesn't make it -not- anything else.
- ErniePC12, on 07/29/2008, -2/+4Someone's got to help working mothers...
- andergriff, on 07/29/2008, -0/+1Stripping is an art the way taking a crap is. I guess it's all in the eye of the beholder. So if your idea of art is "anything you look at", I suppose we have now eliminated all discrimination and good taste. Anyone with a pulse can claim the status of a connoisseur. But don't stop with art. Using this as a philosophical frame, you are free to apply this metric system to anything you please...food, literature, urban planning, whatever. You have a green light to level the planet.
- piesforyou, on 07/29/2008, -1/+2yeah baby yeah!!
- BrandonJM, on 07/29/2008, -0/+1Yes. It's art. Duh.
- pciulla, on 07/29/2008, -1/+2yes!!
- Suricou, on 07/29/2008, -0/+1Hoogs: It's been done.
- anarchytv, on 08/24/2008, -0/+1in·de·cent –adjective
1. offending against generally accepted standards of propriety or good taste; improper; vulgar: indecent jokes; indecent language; indecent behavior.
2. not decent; unbecoming or unseemly: indecent haste.
Driving through any town in America, I see an ocean of indecency, which I take personal offense to. Where there use to be beautiful countryside, there is now asphault black top that stretches for miles, unaesthetic cheaply built block buildings, fat people wearing tacky Walmart clothes, pigs in police cars hiding behind bushes, rusting abandoned cars everywhere, kitschy lawn furniture decorations, cookie cutter franchise restaurants that sell so call food devoid of nutrition.
I am the public, and I find it indecent. I find most of civilization indecent. Lets pass a law against all of this. In some smoky back filed room with a few of my other 'boys'. And then force everyone to obey it, even after we are dead. So that even in death I can rule the living.
Has anyone here ever voted on any of these laws we live in? Does anyone here even know anyone personally that did?
I didn't vote on any of them, I wasn't invited to participate in these contracts, and they are non-binding agreements on me. And you as well. Unless there is an actual record of you voting on a law and agreeing to it, or having some sort of input into its drafting or ratifying, it is a non-binding agreement upon you.
Don't believe the logic? Me and my luddite friends here in this room just drafted, voted on, and passed a law making it illegal to use any form of computer device. You were invited to attend, we posted a notice in the local county paper. Nobody showed up. The law is passed. Now me and my friends are going to around in our cars and start looking for violators of the 'law' and arresting them, detaining them, putting them on trial (did you or did you not use a computer?), accepting plea bargains in exchange for bribes, set up shop to provide 'lawyers' at exhorbitant prices to defend those who have no clue what is going on, but who are really sworn officers of 'my' court, oh, and how about bail bondsmen.
I'm the judge. You don't ever remember electing me. It doesn't matter. I'm the law. And you're the criminal. - EtherGnat, on 07/29/2008, -4/+5Two of my friends died while burying you down for lame memes, but that's not going to stop me from doing the same.
- lefthandpisces, on 07/29/2008, -0/+1in iowa it's a passtime...
- TRScheel, on 07/29/2008, -1/+2I don't know about the establishment but those damn commercials are getting annoying.
- Punisher2K, on 07/29/2008, -0/+1The Art of the Topless.
- Luke1h7, on 07/29/2008, -1/+2If anything can be called art what's the point in calling anything art? Pointless *****.
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