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Is Stripping An Art?

abcnews.go.com — Future of Iowa nude dancing clubs hangs on answer to question: Is stripping an art?

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  • fitqueenb, on 07/28/2008, -3/+8I guess it all depends on how good they are, men or women...
    • EtherGnat, on 07/29/2008, -1/+6Yes, stripping is an art when they're good. Or very, very, very bad.
    • walshgopher, on 07/29/2008, -0/+2you can't define it by talent. Compare the Mona Lisa to a kinder gardener's macaroni picture. They are both still art.
    • TunaFishGangsta, on 07/30/2008, -0/+1It's a sport.
  • mmijatov, on 07/28/2008, -5/+82Anything can be art. If I take a ***** in a cup of ramen noodles while wearing a chicken suit, it's art.
    • Otto, on 07/29/2008, -2/+332 chicks, 1 cup?
    • FractalPhono, on 07/29/2008, -9/+1crap otto beat me to it
    • Cerebron, on 07/29/2008, -5/+3Aristotle would disagree.
      • MRintheKeys, on 07/29/2008, -2/+11He's ***** dead dude. I dont think Aristotle cares what this guy does with a cup of ramen noodles and a chicken suit.
    • Luke1h7, on 07/29/2008, -6/+0Way too much *****, and I used the word ***** on purpose, is considered art. And yes, my opinion IS SUPERIOR.

      If a 20 year old woman shaking her vagina inches away from some old drunk guys face for a dollar is an art, then President Bush is the greatest President America has ever had.
    • deadmann, on 07/29/2008, -1/+3Exactly, but that doesn't make it -not- anything else.
    • XeRoX2k2, on 07/29/2008, -0/+3yes,but does it blend?
  • rebotfc, on 07/28/2008, -7/+69yes.
  • PrintScrn12, on 07/29/2008, -7/+26Art generally skilful work where the prime importance is self expression of the artist and the emotive reaction of the audience. Isn't that the case with stripping. It just happens the expression of the artist and emotive response are of the so-called "base desires".

    Of course simply as a showcase of a mix of natural and man-made beauty. Just as any extraordinarily beautiful creation may be deemed art why can't dances be deemed art based on their beautiful eroticism.

    Or is there some heavy prudism in the consensus of what is and isn't art? Evoke feelings of love, sadness, happiness or shame for it's own sake and it's artisitic. Evoke lust, sorry we don't like that. It's below us. It's below art.
    • Erectile, on 07/29/2008, -12/+2Shut the ***** up-ism.
    • deadmann, on 07/29/2008, -1/+3It involves more skill than any conceptual art.
  • InnerGalbladder, on 07/29/2008, -7/+11Please don't take away my strip clubs, i likes the boobies. If you take them away, all I'll have is my corn.
    • Coven, on 07/29/2008, -1/+5boobies and corn...just 2 parts of a well rounded breakfast.
  • Alsqr, on 07/29/2008, -3/+33yea and porn is art too
    • aaronoog, on 07/29/2008, -2/+9Have you ever seen "The Opening of Misty Beethoven"? Now that's art.
      • coyote1284, on 07/29/2008, -1/+8I see your classic porn and raise you "Behind the Green Door"
        Seriously, nice reference!
    • fishbeef33, on 07/29/2008, -3/+1Apparently you've never seen a Robert Mapplethorpe photo.
      • zip000, on 07/29/2008, -1/+4I have, and I would suggest that no one Google that guy unless you are interested in self portraits of the guy with weird things in his ass.


        Sure it's art, but it isn't art that I really want to look at. (and definitely NSFW)
    • krisscofield, on 07/29/2008, -4/+6Porn is art.
  • palewook, on 07/29/2008, -6/+6when done correctly, yes.
  • elzoo, on 07/29/2008, -22/+2***** you two of my friends died while stripping.
    • EtherGnat, on 07/29/2008, -4/+5Two of my friends died while burying you down for lame memes, but that's not going to stop me from doing the same.
  • borez, on 07/29/2008, -4/+10Fine or liberal?
  • dave122, on 07/29/2008, -6/+8Buried as false... I live in des moines and there is a full-nude stripclub 10 minutes from my house, consequently it's called "the lumberyard... where real men go to get wood". Perhaps it is classified as an art center, but I've never heard of such a thing... not that I would ever frequent these kinds of establishments. Clubs just can't serve booze if they are full nude, consequently you can BYOB to them.
    • InnerGalbladder, on 07/29/2008, -3/+5I'm in Johnston, really close to there, I've gotten my share of lumber there.
    • oldhick, on 07/29/2008, -6/+5So your first line is "Buried as false" followed up by admitting you have no idea what you're talking about... Lovely.
      • dave122, on 07/29/2008, -3/+6http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm
      • oldhick, on 07/29/2008, -2/+2Lets see... From your own link: Sarcasm can be difficult to grasp in written form. To prevent this some people emphasize (often overly) the sarcastic comment. (e.g. that’s just craptastic!); sarcastic comments on the Internet with an emoticon, such as ^o); or surround them with a made-up language tag, e.g. *sarcasm*,[sarcasm][/sarcasm], or .
    • FractalPhono, on 07/29/2008, -2/+2...well that sounds like twice the good deal!
    • TRScheel, on 07/29/2008, -1/+2I don't know about the establishment but those damn commercials are getting annoying.
  • orangefly, on 07/29/2008, -4/+3smaller brain says yes, larger brain says no....
    or vice versa....not sure....
  • darkstar808, on 07/29/2008, -4/+3yep, and I've known a few van Gogh's in the profession.
    • EtherGnat, on 07/29/2008, -2/+2They cut off their ear and gave it to you? Is that extra?
  • tehmacuser, on 07/29/2008, -4/+5If that means that there will be classes for this "art" in college, then yes. Yes it is.
  • Narcism, on 07/29/2008, -4/+2There is a resounding yes coming from my direction.
  • aaronoog, on 07/29/2008, -5/+5It should be an art. There should be stripping museums with stripping exhibits.
  • billizm, on 07/29/2008, -7/+2Without even reading past the title... Yes, yes it is.
  • s0m31john, on 07/29/2008, -4/+18Telling people how to run their PRIVATE business must be an art, a lot of people are good at it.
  • Rudegar, on 07/29/2008, -6/+1maybe a subArt of dancing
  • fletcher008, on 07/29/2008, -5/+1We should be getting the Ouija board out and asking Russ Meyer. It was "art" to him!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondo_Topless
  • Lucifugerising, on 07/29/2008, -5/+4No, but it's one of this planets greatest acomplishments.
  • theutopian, on 07/29/2008, -11/+9I don't believe strippers who are doing it for the 'art.' You're doing it because of the easy money and enjoyment of manipulating men while being a whore. It's just a money grubbing power trip.

    However, anything these days is considered 'art.' The line needs to be drawn somewhere. Don't get me wrong, I have no problems with naked chicks dancing around, just call it what is and that's not art.
    • newmatic, on 07/29/2008, -3/+8Wow, I had to get this far down the page to find the misogyny... good job, Digg.

      And plenty of strippers, male and female, do it for the rush of performing in front of people, making them feel something--the same reason that many actors and singers do what they do. Also, it's not the performer's intent that makes something art or not art. It's the resulting performance.
    • EtherGnat, on 07/29/2008, -3/+7If you dig deep enough most artists' (and the rest of us too) motivations are selfish. Whether it's the money or the attention or just the need to express some inner demons. If you make motive part of the definition of art you're opening a huge can of worms.
    • orangejello1984, on 07/30/2008, -0/+0Female strippers don't usually dance to be a whore. Money, power and drugs are fair game, though.

      Not to mention that I'm pretty sure that in order to be a whore you have to have sex for money with several people (not necessarily at once, but that tends to be the real money-maker.)
  • krisscofield, on 07/29/2008, -5/+6How can it not be? Without any puritanical nonsense, are they carefully selecting their dance moves to carefully selected music? Do they practice and perform for a demanding audience? Aside from any personal disagreements you might have with it--I'd say it easily qualifies with an art. If not more so than some other mediums.
  • trer, on 07/29/2008, -3/+10Art is undefinable. To have a court decide what is and what is not art is to open the door on stifling artistic freedom and creativity. We would no longer have art anymore. The only time gov't should step in and regulate art is when people are being used against their will to create art (e.g. childern, etc.). I haven't seen many cases in America where a woman was forced to work at a strip club; they are usually willing participants. How about letting them make their own decisions with their lives?
  • dosequis, on 07/29/2008, -4/+4I've been to this club. Nice little place. We were looking for some food and somehow ended up in a "performing arts center"
  • Erythroxylum, on 07/29/2008, -6/+4Hell, it's better than art. Much better. I'd rather watch some stripper swinging her gear around than look at something some barely-literate cretin - who's just graduated from a Fine Art degree course - after three years of wanking around, wearing tight jeans and crying's latest creation.
  • PDF84, on 07/29/2008, -3/+4it created art in my pants!!
    • MacEnvy, on 07/29/2008, -1/+1A Jackson Pollock, if I'm not mistaken.
  • thailand1972, on 07/29/2008, -4/+3Thank you, two of my friends regularly enjoy going to stripshows.
  • PReitz, on 07/29/2008, -4/+3I think there's definitely an art to it. I just think it's flat out ridiculous that it has to be classified as "art" in order to be legal.
  • lauraT1987, on 07/29/2008, -4/+3I like to think of myself as an artist!
  • pr0w3ss, on 07/29/2008, -4/+9YES!
    nsfw.
    I would like to enter exhibit A.
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=C-peZkuVosc

    and exhibit B.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6KnUW9N3Zo
    • paidhima, on 07/29/2008, -1/+1I call ringer: the woman in the second video is obviously a superhero. I've never seen someone appear to be completely weightless before.
  • d3l80y, on 07/29/2008, -4/+3no two ways about it! definitely an art!
  • pinniger, on 07/29/2008, -1/+5Only if the dancer's name is Art.
  • poidh, on 07/29/2008, -4/+5Who cares?
    It involves naked women, so it must be good.
    Case closed.
  • thedogfatherx, on 07/29/2008, -4/+3You damn right it is.
  • lead2thehead, on 07/29/2008, -8/+3NO. That's just something strippers tell people so they can pretend they have dignity.
    • Suricou, on 07/29/2008, -3/+1Go to a modern art museum. Observe the art. Do you think those artists have dignity?

      Now look at the price figures. Do you think they would rather have dignity, or a really huge mansion?
      • lead2thehead, on 07/29/2008, -2/+0I dare you to make less sense.
      • Suricou, on 07/29/2008, -0/+2Lead2thehead, I still make more sense than modern art.
    • wynja, on 07/29/2008, -1/+1For those dumbasses saying that it is not an art, what do you call ballet dancing? Is ballet an art form? For that matter, have you even seen a strip show? If it's not art, then anyone could do it. Having experienced some very horrible strip teases, I can honestly say that real strippers are talented.

      Art - Human effort to imitate, supplement, alter, or counteract the work of nature.

      Strippers imitate mating rituals on stage. That makes it art by the very definition of art.
    • lead2thehead, on 07/29/2008, -0/+0So now we're equating lap dances to ballet?! Please... the goal of a lap dance is not to produce insightful, though provoking works of art. It's to get the guy off so that he stuffs dollar bills down your thong in the hopes that you'll take him into the back room for a hand job. Calling that art is an insult to artists.
  • Laloj, on 07/29/2008, -6/+2Stripping is a must, It is life itself.
    anyone have change for a $5? I've gotta tip this girl on stage.

    http://www.brazilass.net
  • ErniePC12, on 07/29/2008, -2/+4Someone's got to help working mothers...
  • ElDiablo6870, on 07/29/2008, -1/+0Of that really is you in your profile, I would have to agree.
  • grneye53, on 07/29/2008, -2/+2Just as my pole is the pallet, so from this we can safely say that a "lap dance" is creating a whole new or nude picture. I always been an art lover but art is "HARD" to define without a lot of hands on research .
  • mqchen, on 07/29/2008, -1/+7Actually, here in Norway the strip clubs recently convinced the federal judges that stripping is an art, hence they don't need to pay VAT. It was compared with stand-up comedy, ballet, theater, etc.

    Articles are in Norwegian:
    http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/artikkel.php?ar ...
    http://www.adressa.no/nyheter/innenriks/article766 ...
    http://www.dagbladet.no/kultur/2006/12/05/485082.h ...
  • EtherGnat, on 07/29/2008, -2/+17How could dancing clothed be art but dancing naked not? Are a few ounces of fabric really the difference between what is art and what isn't?
  • MWeather, on 07/29/2008, -2/+23If it is, I won't have to pay any taxes this year, due to my generous donations to the arts.
    • Loonacy, on 07/29/2008, -3/+2My donation to the arts is not stripping. You're welcome.
      • Loonacy, on 07/29/2008, -0/+1Wow, those people digging me down must really want to see me strip.
  • nard3456, on 07/29/2008, -2/+1Dancing is a form of art so yeah stripping is art.
  • drmangrum, on 07/29/2008, -2/+11I really wish puritanical assholes would stop trying to push THEIR morals on everyone else. If you don't like strip clubs, then DON'T GO TO THEM. Stop making laws that target them and they would stop inventing methods to circumvent those laws. If you don't like the signage that goes with the club, then makes laws about that.

    Like that stupid ass law where the girls have to wear latex over their nipples or even the no-touching laws due to fear of prostitution. News flash assholes, if a girl is going to pick up a john, an arms length of distance isnt going to stop her.
  • riptor666, on 07/29/2008, -2/+1Depends on who's dancing and how well.
  • Luke1h7, on 07/29/2008, -1/+2If anything can be called art what's the point in calling anything art? Pointless *****.
  • sodade, on 07/29/2008, -2/+8The real question is: are all christian morals truly moral, or are some of them just ways for douchebags to judge others and feel superior?
    • Suricou, on 07/29/2008, -3/+3According to the standard model of christian morality - not that most christians use it - God is moral by definition, and all other morality is a reflection of this. Things are moral if they comply with God's plans, and immoral if they oppose God. This is the only source of morality.

      This doesn't make sense to me though, because God is, well... a bastard. Complete dick. Look at the OT: He plants a forbidden tree knowing the humans are going to eat it just so he has a reason to punish them, destroys all life on earth, kills every firstborn male in Egypt because their pharoh is stubborn, after manipulating the pharoh to give himself an excuse. He orders several genocides, demands jews brand their sons by chopping a bit off them, smites thousands of people for complaining, demands enough animal sacrifices each year to feed a village, makes completly arbitary pronouncements, and after all that has the audacity to declare himself a loving God - immediatly before saying that all who do not worship him will by burnt in the eternal fires of hell because they couldn't live up to a moral code that he admits is impossible to obey perfectly.

      And this is supposed to be the *good* character?
      • sodade, on 07/29/2008, -1/+1Agreed. If this douchebag is really god, I'm siding with the devil.
  • TinTin42, on 07/29/2008, -2/+0only if it provokes a reaction..........
  • Tallon29, on 07/29/2008, -2/+2Definitely. Now excuse me while I head downtown to the museum...
  • CyclonusRIP, on 07/29/2008, -1/+3The sketch pads the article mentions are actually booklets of $1 bills purchased in the back right next to the ATM.
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