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- PATSCRU, on 10/12/2007, -21/+4591 down, 400,000 to go.
- nixonrichard, on 10/12/2007, -15/+230Some more info on the crash:
The crash was on Madison Avenue in Indianapolis.
"Police said Sabrina Trotter, 44, the driver of an Indianapolis Public Schools bus, stopped on the road to take a cell phone call from her mother.
Police said the driver of a Hummer, John Northrop, 54, was going northbound and was tuning his radio when he plowed into the back of the bus.
Northrop suffered minor injuries. Police ticketed Trotter for an improper stop."
The hummer slammed into the back of the bus so hard it lifted the wheels of the bus off the ground. It's fun to pick on hummers, but when you get in a crash like that and walk away (there's not even any blood on the airbag) it's pretty impressive. This is a case of bus vs. bigger bus. Bigger bus wins, but nobody gets hurt. Sub-compact vs. bigger bus doesn't end up so pretty. More pics from some guy's blog:
http://necromanc.blogspot.com/2006/12/hummer-vs-school-buss.html - dominasian, on 10/12/2007, -4/+171ill bet the dude went out and bought a school bus afterwards
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+137I wonder if his little penis is OK?
- kitwaites, on 10/12/2007, -17/+124@nixonrichard
They ticketted the bus driver for stopping to take a call? Bloody hell... the guy was lucky to get away with his life, but he should have his licence taken away for dangerous driving, if that had been a small car with kids in the back they could have been dead.
In the UK, if you hit someone from the back it's always your fault. They could do the stupidest thing ever but it's your responsibility to leave enough distance to stop safely if they do. - ThinkBox, on 10/12/2007, -1/+102You kidding me? That'll buff right out!
- Kornstalx, on 10/12/2007, -11/+109H²Owned.
- guillermox, on 10/12/2007, -14/+110Everyone knows that a Blue Bird is tougher than a Hummingbird.
- Seidoger, on 10/12/2007, -12/+96The ***** who owned it just lost a little bit of his pseudo-masculinity.
- Zippo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+84I'm surprised no one else has posted the obvious...
That guy got schooled. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+68IT BLENDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- troon, on 10/12/2007, -5/+56All these people suggesting the UK laws are messed up: you are so wrong. When driving, it is your responsibility to make sure that the road ahead of you is clear. There are numerous reasons why something in front may need to stop: accident, breakdown, something in the road. If someone in front of you stops suddenly, you should be maintaining sufficient distance to be able to stop safely. That means if it's wet, back off even more.
Here, the H2 "driver" was tuning the radio whilst piloting his giant truck, and not paying enough attention to the road to notice the GREAT BIG YELLOW BUS stopped in the road.
How can that possibly not be 100% his fault?! Do you think he would have noticed a pedestrian or cyclist? Or don't you have those in the US? - betacmag4u, on 10/12/2007, -6/+52If your serious about a Hummer......just do the planet a favor and kill yourself.
- jackieboy37, on 10/12/2007, -0/+46more like: Hummer TOTALS itslef, while school bus sits there...
- retral, on 10/12/2007, -4/+49Heh, the bus didn't suffer a whole lot of damage.
- nixonrichard, on 10/12/2007, -7/+52"I would really like to know why the bus driver was ticketed? Pulling over is the right thing to do when it comes to answering the phone, what was she supposed to do? Talk on the phone while driving? Is there something wrong with the way she pulled over or something?"
Not answering the phone is the right thing to do when it comes to answering the phone. Also, she clearly didn't pull very far off the side of the road given the fact that the hummer slammed just slightly left of center on the back bumper. There are special rules for buses . . . they can't back up, they can't make unscheduled stops, and they can't just stop in the middle of a busy road. The guy deserved a ticket too, but he'll probably get his in the mail. - Rickler, on 10/12/2007, -1/+39@nixonrichard "It's fun to pick on hummers, but when you get in a crash like that and walk away (there's not even any blood on the airbag) it's pretty impressive. This is a case of bus vs. bigger bus. Bigger bus wins, but nobody gets hurt. Sub-compact vs. bigger bus doesn't end up so pretty.
Did you not see the passenger side of that glorified tin can box?
After seeing those pics I wonder why the hell buses bumpers aren't lower? Are they there just to decapitate people? - MagicBobert, on 10/12/2007, -15/+52Psshh... that's not a hummer.
THIS is a hummer:
http://www.hummerforums.com/models/h1/images/2006-Hummer-H1-alpha.jpg - Domza, on 10/12/2007, -2/+35Score 1 for public Transportation
- Ignathius, on 10/12/2007, -5/+37no, it's a hummer. just not a *real* hummer (H1). it looks like one of those faggoty H3's.
- Ignathius, on 10/12/2007, -6/+32"I would really like to know why the bus driver was ticketed? Pulling over is the right thing to do when it comes to answering the phone, what was she supposed to do? Talk on the phone while driving? Is there something wrong with the way she pulled over or something?"
yes. you can't just stop in the middle of the street (reguardless if you pull over to the side) without good reason. it's called blocking traffic, and can cause things such as this. and stopping to take a phone call *isn't* good reason.
what she was *supposed* to do was this:
wait till she got somewhere more approiate, like say... the school parking lot when she's droppin off the kids, and call her mom back. *NOT* just pull over to the side of the road to answer the phone. - KuntaKinte, on 10/12/2007, -7/+33these damn south floridian soccer moms i see everyday with their big ass hummers drive like they don't have any rules, they see a school bus and demand it stop for them instead of them stopping for it
- spudnic, on 10/12/2007, -7/+33"kitwaites...the the UK's laws are ***** up. A School bus driver should NOT be taking phone calls while driving. And I don't mean while physically driving. As long as she has kids in the bus, she should not be driving.
All those laws that automatically consider the driver in the back to be at fault are stupid."
What if there was a crash in front of the bus, and it had to make an emergency stop, and the hummer then slammed into the back of the bus and killed a few kids...
The reason why the bus stopped is irrelevant, you should ALWAYS leave enough space to safely stop. - kakwakas, on 10/12/2007, -4/+28And nothing of value was lost!
- brufleth, on 10/12/2007, -3/+25@troon
I'm not sure what the people whining about the UK laws are going on about. I suspect many of them either aren't old enough to drive or haven't driven much. There are similar laws or at least precedence in the US. In general if you rear end someone your insurance, or failing that, you are going to be the one paying for everything.
The bus driver could have been stopped to paint their nails, it is still the responsibility of drivers to be prepared to stop and/or avoid obstacles in the road. Mattresses, boxes, chunks of truck tires, hell a friend of mine encountered a rolled over SUV on a dark highway once. Just because you're on a road doesn't mean it is magically clear. The bus driver could just as easily have been stopped in traffic. In this case the driver probably deserved a ticket for obstructing the roadway for no good reason. However it is the driver of the Hummer who should be cited for reckless driving and he's damn lucky nobody was killed or it would have included vehicular man slaughter. - moofdaddy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20Tizz66 Quote: "If the person in front of you isn't driving properly, it's their fault."
That's wrong. If you rear end another car it is your fault. There are few but rare expections this, such as if you get cut off by another driver because they pull into your lane suddenly and you hit them. That is about the only time I can think of that it wouldn't be there fault.
Otherwise you should *always* be keeping 3 - 5 seconds or more in front of your car. If you have a few second buffer like that then you have the time to break, take evasive maneuvers, etc. If you have less and you get into an accident because the driver in front of you did something then its your fault. You should have seen them stopping and made corrections to your own vecichle. Any decent driver over the age of 17 knows this. - felchdonkey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19Actually, nixonrichard, you're wrong here.
The driver of the Hummer was ok because only the passengers compartment was crushed - if you look at the photo from another angle ( http://necromanc.blogspot.com/2006/12/hummer-vs-school-buss.html ), you'll see that. If there had been someone in the passenger's seat, they would have been dead on impact. Same goes for the driver if he had hit the bus at a different angle.
Learn to look at crash safety tests, not the size of a vehicle.
Example - the 2006 Cadillac Escalade and Chevy Avalanche got three-star ratings for frontal collision and rollovers.
The Toyota Matrix that year rated five stars for frontal collisions, and four-stars for rollovers. Every Volvo rated got five or four stars in all categories. Even the Mini Cooper gets four stars.
Safety is important, so go with your brain, not your gut.
Here are crash test ratings, for anyone who's interested: http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/testing/ncap/ - Egoist, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19Looks like the army of ignorants are out in force burying the OP, as usual. "BUT IT'S A HUMMER OMOMGOMGMO!!!"
The H1 is the only consumer-level Hummer that's similar to the HMMWV. After those didn't sell too well, GM found that it could sell more "Hummers" if they were smaller and cheaper, so they ended up with vehicles like this. These are no stronger than any other consumer-level vehicle in that weight class.
A real HMMWV is much stronger and heavier and would have either done more damage or been sent in another direction, because they don't crumple like consumer-level vehicles. - MaelstromVale, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19The bus driver pulled over to avoid an accident... but the future refused to change.
- danielce, on 10/12/2007, -6/+23So just because other cars use a lot of gas to it's ok?
Hummers have become the symbol of irresponsible "gluttony." (And they are ugly as hell, but that's my personal opinion....) - razrielle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18Its just a place where people dump interesting links, if other people think its interesting they digg it, if you want news go to CNN or Fox.com, digg is a social bookmarking site, not a news site
- DaffyDuck, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15I'm an engineer at one of the major 3 school bus manufacturers and while we never like seeing people hurt in accidents, we do take a certain amount of pride in how extremely strong and safe our buses are. The more kids ride buses, the fewer will be killed in car accidents.
- Mohonri, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15The consumer-level "Hummer"s really have no relation whatsoever to the military vehicle. It's a Hummer in name only. In fact, it's actually based on the chassis of the terrible-in-almost-every-way Chevy Tahoe.
- olliewebbuk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14The Prius is a bad example, here in the UK it's been proven as a little dirty fraudster that doesn't provide good MPG at all, infact you can buy a Diesel powered Jag that'll do the same MPG if not better, it'll also be fast, better looking and you'll not get you beaten up.
What I would like to see if a decent "European" car with a 5 star NCAP rating slammed into the back of that Bus at the same sort of speed. I'm thinking that damage would be the same but all the passengers would walk away.
I crashed my Renault about a year ago and rolled it over, the roof didn't even bend. The whole car was perfect appart from a smashed windscreen, I walked away without even a bruise and to get out all I did was open the door, which shut again afterwards. Strong cars. - giveer, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17How it happens is: they made vehicles from bloated ***** and wind. Painted it and said "Hey *****! A Hummer!"
And of course, someone went and bought one.
And that guy: Hit a bus.
No shock there. - jlebrech, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Hummer != Tank
- smartmlp, on 10/12/2007, -18/+31I would really like to know why the bus driver was ticketed? Pulling over is the right thing to do when it comes to answering the phone, what was she supposed to do? Talk on the phone while driving? Is there something wrong with the way she pulled over or something?
- nixonrichard, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Here is a report on what happens when a semi collides with a bus (with pictures). The Semi doesn't fair any better than the Hummer. Summary: both flip, both get totaled, two kids in the bus die.
http://www.ntsb.gov/publictn/2002/HAR0203.pdf - DreKor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12@ nixonrichard
True, the driver walked away clean, without any blood on the airbag. However, what if there had been somebody in the passenger seat? They would have been completely annihilated. The H3 didn't stand up to anything in this, the guy got lucky with where he was sitting, that's all. - KenOh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Exactly. I used to drive those city buses during college (university shuttle at U of Maryland College Park) and it was hilarious how tiny these big, "intimidating" vehicles look when you're driving something that weighs 16 tons while empty.
- vdog, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14Or at least get one with a .50 cal machine gun.
- chingy1788, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15The Hummer driver thought he/she could take on a school bus
- Superfluous, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9looking at the damage, im surprised the hummer driver wasnt crushed and killed.
Edit: Look at nixonrichards link. Gives you some good angles to understand why the driver didnt die (and why a passenger would have). - Floris, on 10/12/2007, -7/+16In other breaking news, due to a sudden drop in gasoline demand, oil prices dropped dramatically today. Analysts predict this might have a tsunami effect on the stock market in the next 12 to 24 hours. Terrorist attacks are not excluded, the investigation of the situation continues while federal agencies try to clear the streets and make sure no school bus can hurt their economy ever again. Retaliation actions against Iran are now inevitable. Bush changes law to re-elect himself for 8 more years. His father supports him.
- mesoiam, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9sulf: "Oh yeah, I'll look at you when you try to leave a "safe" distance while driving to work on a busy highway or downtown street during peak hours. Something tells me that it will take you twice the time because of all those cars passing you and slipping in front of you."
It is people driving too close and stopping suddenly that causes tailbacks. Read up on traffic waves and you will see that if everyone would just drive at a safe distance then the flow would be much faster. - sucks, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9I once backed into a parked school bus when i was in a hurry.
The school bus suffered no damage - not even a scratch - but my tiny Japanese car suffered greatly... - carpespasm, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11hah, to be such a tough looking vehicle that bus sure doesn;t look like it took much of a beating when it smashed it to hell.
- razrielle, on 10/12/2007, -11/+19In Soviet Russia, the hummer blends........*****, the stupid in me took over for a sec
- mancat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10It's a Chevy Tahoe with a different body on it and and air ride suspension, plus a price tag of almost twenty thousand more.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9It is simple...everyone knows a few people who clog up our e-mails day after day with FW: FW: FW: FW: FW: crap that is never funny, and always annoying. After ignoring their messages for as long as we can hoping they will get hte message, eventually we block their e-mails. Or we filter them so they don't know we are doing it and don't hurt hteir feelings.
Digg has become the place for ALL these idiots who have alienated the few friends they have by sending all those FW: FW: FW: FW: e-mails until they got blocked to hjave an outlet for the lame ***** they they themselves have been sent.
And since pretty much EVERYBODY on Digg has 3-4 accounts, it doesn't take much to get stoirees to the front page. And once it is there, there are plenty of losers who will Digg anything. -
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