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- bruenig, on 10/11/2007, -41/+734Turns out from the chart, no aquatic life believes in god and hey they were here first so they would probably know. I am just going with them.
- andreiknox, on 10/11/2007, -66/+305heh, how ironic - the more they believe in God the darker they are...
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -39/+271Yeah, but does God believe in Europeans eh eh ?
- nevergrowup, on 10/11/2007, -41/+244Poland being in the 90% range is misleading, it's still a mainly Catholic country, but most poeple do it just for show because of family, tradition etc. Younger generations don't give a crap.
- Philluminati, on 10/11/2007, -28/+122I believe in family, traditions and I have extremely strong morals. I just don't believe god exists. I kinda of think all these notations of life after death: "we go to heaven and live in paradise" or "we come back as a dog or cat" or "we get 72 virgins" or "soul becomes free" etc are all fantastic ways to jusify a life that's not worth living. What's the point of living if you get to do it for all eternity or when you die you just come back again? Your just undermining the point of living in the first place. If reincarnation was true I'd just keeping killing myself until I came back as some super sexy millionairre.
It's hard not to believe in those things...my life's quite hard actually and I'm not always happy but it seems like a cop out for those who can't just make the most of an imperfect life on this planet. I'd like to be wrong about this, but personally, and I know it's personal - i'm not saying anyone should believe my ***** - I just think that we get one shot at this and when were in the ground were in the ground. I'm trying to accept it rather than turning to Jesus, Allah or whoever for sympathy. - SlimeyPete, on 10/11/2007, -3/+87What's the source for this data?
- kraniac, on 10/11/2007, -6/+70I call for jihad against these godless oceanic blasphemers!
- silencerider151, on 10/11/2007, -21/+84Is that a racist comment?
- Crazymaniacc, on 10/11/2007, -12/+67I would LOVE to see this chart in the US, probably all dark
- aguitarhero, on 10/11/2007, -2/+53It is important to note that most people in Scandinavia at least, who are religious, are mostly culturally religious. They believe in "something out there, it might not be god, but there has to be something". When it comes to people who actually read the holy books, and believe what they say, the figures are much much lower.
- nekitip, on 10/11/2007, -6/+50This is true for the most of the blue. (And it rhymes.)
- ScrumFritter, on 10/11/2007, -8/+52Honestly, I think most people are scared of the idea that there's nothing after death, and that's why they choose religion - it's comforting. Sometimes I wish I could be religious, because it's kind of like being a child - everyone's always lying to you, telling you everything is going to be okay. Shame that kind of self-delusion - or 'belief' - is just beyond me. Just not capable of doing it.
- Ryuuzaki, on 10/11/2007, -7/+42I'm spanish and I'm probably counted as catholic while I'm a strong atheist.
Why? Because I was baptized when I was too young to even talk.
When you take those things in consideration, it's easy to see the numbers for believers are way higher than reality. - Markpdotcom, on 10/11/2007, -1/+36Is there a frog in here?
- grr74, on 10/11/2007, -7/+39As a European, I don't give a *****.
- Sowdi, on 10/11/2007, -3/+33I think a most pertinent question would be; 'Which God?'
- Ellsass, on 11/05/2008, -1/+27You could also try Vatican City -- they're at 10%.
I guess all those Swiss guards bring down the average. - internetass, on 10/11/2007, -17/+4363.5% of all statistics are made up
- manshack, on 10/11/2007, -1/+27I'll probably be digged down for dissenting, but just because people aren't Catholic, or aren't any particular religion for that matter, doesn't mean they don't believe in God at all.
- eker, on 10/11/2007, -12/+37I wasn't surprised. Are we stealing from reddit again?
- billrini, on 10/11/2007, -1/+25In Spain they say that everybody is Catholic; even the atheists.
- arcooke, on 10/11/2007, -1/+25Utah would be solid black.
- Swift2, on 10/11/2007, -0/+24I just want to say, I grew up in a "Catholic country," the Canadian province of Quebec, in the '50s and '60s. In the '50s, we were at the end of the priest-ridden society that had existed in the province, oddly enough, when the British took over in 1763. They had given the clergy lots of power over their parishoners, far more than they were to have in France. This was political power, after all.
So, in Quebec in the '50s, there was a semi-fascist dictator in charge of the government, Maurice Duplessis, and the clergy said nothing. You couldn't see a lot of movies. Anything with kissing in it, or a divorce, was chopped or not allowed to be shown. Almost like Cinema Paradiso.
In the '50s, there was the most church-going population in North America. The church defined all issues. So you had to get a hearing before the Canadian Senate -- very expensive -- to get a divorce. Abortion? Ha-ha. Birth control? You've got to be kidding. Satan uses condoms.
Then came the '60s, and the political Quiet Revolution. The clergy's domination stopped. Suddenly, by the early '70s, there was the lowest church-going in the world.
Did they "believe less in God"? No. I don't know if they did then, or if they don't now. But the clergy controlled less of their lives politically, which is what this map is showing us. If you've ever lived in a theocracy, you know that it doesn't have anything to do with God, but with the poltical power of the clergy. - rastakid, on 10/11/2007, -1/+24I sure hope you're kidding. At least French and Germany should be recognizable too. Aren't you (Americans) being taught any history at school? We (The Dutchmen) are even taught all the states of the US so please put a little effort in getting to know the European countries :)
- GMorgan, on 10/11/2007, -1/+24Europe's very long history with religion is why we are far less religious than places like America. You only came into existence 200 years ago so were fortunate enough to dodge the ***** era of religion where you'd be killed by the state for what you believe in.
Britain in particular was continually screwed over by religion* and that's why we are so low on that chart.
*have a look at Queen Mary, the Puritans or any of the period where we were basically on the Pope's ***** list and he was declaring crusades against Britain. Then again if we weren't continually attacked by the Catholic church and it's supporters we probably would have been a footnote in history. - rastakid, on 10/11/2007, -0/+22I'm very sorry for misnaming France. As English is not my native language, I hope it's a forgivable mistake. I didn't mean to be 'ripping' on someone, but talking about it:
If you're going to rip on someone for spelling, the least you could do would be to get the ***** spelling right. By "somone", I'm guessing you mean SOMEONE? - rationalist, on 10/11/2007, -4/+26"One thing to keep in mind, if God does exist then it IS rational to believe it, and irrational not to."
Not so. The rationality of a belief is derived from the evidence for and against it. Absent any evidence, and with abundant evidence that many things formerly ascribed to a god are explained by natural phenomena, the rational conclusion is that there is no god, and the rational life to live is one that assumes as much.
Your statement is useless - you could equally say, "if Bigfoot exists then is IS rational to believe it, and irrational not to." Or, invisible pink unicorns, or giant, flying velvet Elvises, or Chthulu.
You are trying to present a Pascal's Wager in disguise.
Moreover, it is possible to live as moral and good a life as an atheist as one can as a theist. That being the case, there is even less rational reason to keep pushing god on people - particularly your flavor. - Nereus90, on 10/11/2007, -0/+22Coincidences can be ironic.
- mrmots1, on 10/11/2007, -0/+21yeah, that was the joke
- Angostura, on 10/11/2007, -2/+23Not really. Just because you believe in God doesn't mean
1. You believe religion should have much/any impact on the laws governing the country
2. You spend your time proselytising.
I'm an atheist. I have religious friends. We don't try to convert each other.
The problem in the U.S (IMHO) is that despite the professed separation of church and state 1. above has been eroded.
I live in the UK BTW, and the map didn't surprise me at all. - Valmorian, on 10/11/2007, -6/+25I've read "Mere Christianity" and the whole of his argument for the exisence of God in said work amounts to: People have a shared morality, so therefore God must have dictated it.
That's not critical thinking by any stretch. Just because Lewis couldn't understand how evolution can give rise to reciprocal behaviour (and from there, moral imperitives), it doesn't follow that it's "God given".
I was extremely disappointed in this shoddy work by a supposed "brilliant" man. Very sad. - REBELinBLUE, on 10/11/2007, -0/+19The Pope doesn't live in Italy, the Pope lives in the Vatican City which is legally a state in its own right, receiving independence from Italy in the early half of the 20th century. Just to be picky ;) At least that is my understanding, someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
- GMorgan, on 10/11/2007, -1/+19The amazing thing is that the UK has no official separation of church and state, hell we appoint flipping Bishops to the house of lords for no reason other than they are Anglican clergymen. Yet our laws are far less religious than Americas. I don't think we'd ever consider banning things like stem cell research and gay marriage on religious grounds.
- dn11, on 10/11/2007, -14/+32The Czech Republic is the least religious country in Europe - and they also have a lower violent crime and AIDS rate than the US
- jheimark, on 10/11/2007, -3/+21believing in God is not the same as being more religious.
- jtmOBX, on 10/11/2007, -3/+20The girls will be the main thing that gets better
- JorgeGT, on 10/11/2007, -3/+20And 73.8463% of all statistics claim an accuracy unachievable with the method used.
- rupaw, on 10/11/2007, -7/+24Why would there be more conflict? Atheists usually are very tolerant people. They might laugh a little about the irrational cults around them but they usually don't care as long as you leave them alone.
- dn11, on 10/11/2007, -1/+17of course, you wouldn't want to do 2 seconds or research to find out where the data comes from
http://ec.europa.eu/public_opinion/archives/ebs/ebs_225_report_en.pdf - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+16reincarnation according to hinduism is dependant on your karma,, if you have bad karma ie killing yourself is a possiblity, you get reincarnated as a lower life form. Plus reincarnation according to hinduism is not eternal, once you attain moksha, you are releived form the cycle of reincarnation. reincarnation is not what an ideal hindu must look forward to. it is a state of suffering, moksha is the state of acheiving oneness with the universe where your soul becomes part of the eternal ie god.
i'm agnositc and i don't have a special agenda. just saying that your view of reincarnation at least for hinduism is wrong. - okzilla, on 10/11/2007, -1/+16What exactly is surprising about this graph?
- rastakid, on 10/11/2007, -1/+16Can I add you to my friends list? I don't have any ignorant people on it yet.
- GMorgan, on 10/11/2007, -0/+15Nobody expects the Spanish inquisition.
- DinX, on 10/11/2007, -2/+16You have people who are baptised at birth but don't believe in God (like me). They get counted as Roman catholic then, although they don't believe in God.
- SoulMaster2, on 10/11/2007, -3/+17Too dumb to Google a map of Europe too
- spudnic, on 10/11/2007, -2/+16Ahhh, the dark ages and the inquisition, good times
- woody56292, on 10/11/2007, -2/+16I, being a Christian, think that the US wouldn't be as dark as some might think. Are we including those who check the christian box? or those that actually live the lifestyle? i mean, if I check a box saying I am a vegetarian, but eat meat, am I really a vegetarian?
I think too many people think it is a nice idea that they can ask for forgiveness and go to heaven, it gives them reassurance and hope to cover up their sins. The problem is , they don't follow up on the requirements, and don't live the lifestyle, therefore they wouldn't really be christians would they? - blaze03, on 10/11/2007, -5/+19I'm guessing the "younger generations" thing is universal because it's true in the US as well.
- opiniastrous, on 10/11/2007, -0/+14What's to be suprised at? That across most of Europe belief is between 30-50% ???
Terrible colour key by the way. You should really only use a max of 6 colours or else the colour scheme is difficult for the eye to quickly pick up. - ICSU, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14This joke is used 99.5% of a time when an article about statistics is posted.
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