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- Sonizel, on 10/12/2007, -6/+100I tip my hat off to anyone who is/wants to be a air traffic controller.
That job scares the %&*& off of me. - Mootabolife, on 10/12/2007, -3/+93Perhaps the fact that if you daydream for a couple of minutes you could kill a few hundred people?
- althanis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+671) Brick Masons - Average Hourly Pay Rate: $20.11+
2) Air Traffic Controller – Average Yearly Salary: $100,000+
3) Nuclear Power Plant Operator – Average Hourly Pay Rate: $31+
4) Telecommunications Equipment Installers – Average Hourly Pay Rate: $22+
5) Police Officer – Average Hourly Pay Rate: $22+
6) Postal Service Employees – Average Hourly Pay Rate: $21+
7) Computer Software Engineer – Average Yearly Salary: $52,000+
8) Electricians – Average Yearly Salary: $32,000+
9) Computer Programmer – Average Yearly Salary: $55,000+
10) Gaming Managers – Average Hourly Pay Rate: $36+
11) Immigrations and Customs – Average Yearly Salary: $59,000+
12) Firefighting Supervisor – Average Yearly Salary: $60,000+
13) Freelancing – Average Hourly Pay Rate: $20 to $50+
14) Real Estate Broker – Average Yearly Salary: $76,000+
15) Ship Engineer – Average Yearly Salary: $57,000+ - thcobbs, on 10/12/2007, -3/+51Where's "High-Class Call Girl"? I know a lot of people who pay them beacoup bucks.
- mindstyle1, on 10/12/2007, -6/+54word - avg salary $0-unlimited
- shadus, on 10/12/2007, -38/+85He has a degree... it was just paid for by daddies money. If I were Yale or Harvard business college, I would be embarrassed. The way he speaks looks really, really bad for their educational standards.
- VeryAngryJim, on 10/12/2007, -0/+42I'm currently in the ATC program at Purdue, and the only way to get into ATC without a college degree is by doing it in the navy or air force for a few years first. You can't just knock on the FAA's door and ask to be a controller. The article fails to mention that.
Also, I hope the picture in the article was a joke. Air Traffic Controllers aren't the guys on the ground with the orange flashlights. - vizerei, on 10/12/2007, -5/+44Inaccurate.
Go to a nuclear power plant website. They require a degree or Navy NT training (which is the equivalent of getting a graduate degree). Air Traffic Controller? If you don't have a degree, good luck getting hired. You need to know alot more than stress management including all of the safety regulations, flight pattern planning, and I'm sure a ton of other skills. Software Engineer? HAH! Hilarious, unless you are very good and have alot of industry experience, getting a job that shares the title with it's required major of college study is going to be as hard as throwing a baseball to the moon.
Whoever wrote this list is either intentionally lying or very stupid. - maximumsteve1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+39Homer: How is education supposed to make me feel smarter? Besides, every time I learn something new, it pushes some old stuff out of my brain. Remember when I took that home winemaking course, and I forgot how to drive?
- Disodium, on 10/12/2007, -0/+38As an air traffic controller i'm insulted that they used the guy with the flashlights to represent me :( I sit in a RAPCON all day staring at a radar screen, not flag aircraft to parking
- shadus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+39> 3) Nuclear Power Plant Operator – Average Hourly Pay Rate: $31+
DOH!
Kinda scary if you think about it. - str3ama, on 10/12/2007, -3/+34honestly, even all the jobs requiring college degrees want more then just a degree, they want experience.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3416.* Self Employed
- TheMidnight, on 10/12/2007, -6/+34@southwestnut
How the heck do you flip fries?
On a side note, I couldn't find a job anywhere for software engineer or programmer that didn't require a degree in computer science, mathematics or something similar. In fact, I had a hard time finding a job that didn't require a degree AND 5 years of experience. Where the heck were these jobs while I was in college? - Scrappy1850, on 10/12/2007, -3/+30left-handed reliever? NFL punter? coke dealer?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+26Maybe the airport is on a budget, and the air traffic controller has to run out to help direct planes ------ then run back to the radar to see if the planes in the sky are ok :)
- TheUngod, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24While this may be somewhat true, it is also very misleading. While these jobs will hire you without a college degree, you are much less likely to get the jobs without one. If you are applying against a person with a 4 year degree for any of those positions, aside from possibly a bricklayer, all experience the same, they will obviously take the degreed candidate, unless something else is vastly different between the two.
- HarryBauzonia, on 10/12/2007, -28/+49@shadus
The way he speaks is the result of his regional accent. So what if he pronounces nuclear "nucular"?
Brits call batteries "battrys".
Massachusetts Yankees call harbors "hahbahs".....
Other Yankees pronounce "I" as "I-yee" (I-yee turned ri-yeet at the li-yeet).
Hawaiians call brothers "braddahs".
All are mispronunciations based on regional accents, so it's rather arrogant to label your own set of mispronunciations as "proper" English (whatever that is) while ridiculing the mispronunciations of others. - AntBing, on 10/12/2007, -3/+24He's probably got, or going to have lung problems as well. Hope he invested and saved wisely.
- DreKor, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21I'd be scared of the stress and rapid burnout rate that leads to a period of unemployment.
- Maturola, on 10/12/2007, -4/+21WTF?
What about stripping? - xienze, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19Why do they need a degree, honestly? Their job boils down to "don't let the rods get too hot". They only need to monitor gauges and flip switches. That's obviously a simplification, but I fail to see where a college-level knowledge of nuclear fission is required to prevent meltdown. If you know the monitoring hardware and software and now how to identify bad situations, you should be good to go.
- garyblock, on 10/12/2007, -4/+20No job requires a college degree. It's the person doing the hiring who requires the degree.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17This list is a little flawed. Air Traffic controlling didnt require a degree for a while, but it does now.
- endgame, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16At age 32 I still stand by what I said when I was 24 & that is a college degree is ONLY a key to more opportunity. It does not guarantee you anything in life other than "possibly" having more doors open for you. I believe college is a great thing for some people but not everyone is cut out for it, & that alone does not measure a person's success. We can all name a TON of people that have been very successful without a college degree. It's just another tool in your toolbox of life.
Back to work fixing these damn problems with that DST patch that MS just rolled out....... - grandpajesus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15"and most women don't have the body for the job."
that doesnt stop them.... - tont0r, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17[high-pitched cough] "I think I'm getting the Black Lung, Pop. It's not very well ventilated down there."
- phor2zero, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Oilfield Tong Operator -- $120,000 a year. Get paid to eat and sleep offshore!
- argonaut99, on 10/12/2007, -11/+24@HarryBauzonia
While I may agree with your spirit, the last time I checked accents were ok because they were, well, accents. But the word "nucular" is not ok because it is, well, just plain wrong. I believe shadus was referring to the choice of words and improper use of terms, not that our President has an accent.
The accent is the least of the problems with Mr. Bush. - Bender4Pharoah, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1616) Digg voter.
- tont0r, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16"hehe I get paye 20$ per hour as an IT consultant, and I never finished college.... XD"
i think your typo of 'paye' was meant to spell 'payed', which is supposed to be 'paid'. We can tell you never finished college. - omglazers, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14How about founding Microsoft?
- merreborn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11"The market is FAR to competitive amongst those with 4 year degrees for employers to have to even consider those without a degree."
Exactly. It's *possible* to get a programming job without a degree, but it's ***** hard. You've gotta be really skilled/talented to have a prayer.
From what I've been told, less that 1% of yahoo's programmers are degree-less. And it's not for lack of applicants. Your chances are much, much better of moving up in the programming world if you've got a degree. - larfus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Truck Drivers also make very good. $80,000 plus a year.
- garyblock, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11"You need to know alot more than stress management including all of the safety regulations, flight pattern planning, and I'm sure a ton of other skills."
None of which are taught at any college.
A college degree, supposedly, is to prove that you're "trainable." The degree could be in Folklore.
If the purpose of a degree is to demonstrate either a) acquired knowledge or b) study skills, why couldn't they just give each applicant a test? I'm sure anyone with an IQ over 130, for example, would be able to do everything that a typical college graduate can do--and more. It seems to me that the college degree requirement is more about SOCIALIZATION than ability. Human resources managers know that a college graduate can take a lot of *****, because that person took a lot of ***** for four years in getting a degree. Getting a degree in Business is more about learning how to think and behave like a typical business manager than it is about gaining any measurable ability.
As business managers take over more and more fields (i.e., as "competition" supposedly becomes "more fierce"--as if every field is just struggling to survive and everyone's doing "everything they can" to avoid outsourcing more jobs--as if any business manager gives a ***** about labor or any other intangible value), the requirement for every "employee" (there's another one--the employee-employer relationship--that is TOTALLY artificial and ONLY about socialization) to think and behave like a typical business manager becomes increasingly stronger. You can't have a beard, because typical business managers don't have beards. It would ruin morale! You can't have long hair or wear jeans, because typical business managers just don't do that. You can't talk about religion at work. You can't say anything negative. You can't make intelligent use of your free time. If, for example, you're waiting for a program to load, you can't flip through the pages of a book--you're supposed to sit there and stare at the monitor. It's like in fast food: "If you've got time to lean, you've got time to clean," except there's no cleaning. The corporate environment is like a ***** elementary school classroom.
I'm gonna stop ranting here. I'll answer any questions after the break. - jwo7777777, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10That's a shame. I spent my 4.5 years in college only to not be using my degree one freakin' bit in my work. Only I would not have gotten the jobs without the degree.
Furthermore, my proficiency in my job has absolutely nothing to do with what I have learned. It has to do with my base personality. Essentially I was born a problem-solver and people pay to have those around. - LGod, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10@gharding
Spending too much time on craigslist ? - frunkie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10So Homer really COULD work at a nuclear power plant...
- thcobbs, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12A well trained mason is one of the most invaluable trades in modern society... they can build just about anything with some bricks and cement.
- selrahc, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12What? Is it illegal to be a Pepsi dealer too? Oh wait...
- sn0re, on 10/12/2007, -3/+117) Computer Software Engineer – Average Yearly Salary: $52,000+
9) Computer Programmer – Average Yearly Salary: $55,000+
First off, they obviously didn't do any research or they'd realize that these titles are pretty much interchangeable. When they're not interchangeable, it's my experience that software engineers are better paid -- typically because they require a degree. In reality, $50k is a pittance for an experienced software engineer. According to Cisco's profile in Fortune's 100 best companies to work for, the average wage for their average employee (Software Engineer IV) is $123,021.
Source: http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/bestcompanies/2007/snapshots/11.html - ubuwalker31, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11I'm not sure why BigEazy is being dugg down. There is no constitutional requirement to have a college degree to become President of the United States. In fact, most elected positions have no educational requirements, nor should they. Furthermore, there are a TON of well paying State and Federal Jobs that pay very well, where no degree is required.
- tont0r, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Male porn stars dont earn all that much. Plus its a hell of a lot harder (no pun intended) for the males than it is for the females.
- HarryBauzonia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Many of them get their nuclear training in the Navy....where the training is much more in-depth than anything a college could offer. You don't need to understand the nuances of English literature in order to operate a reactor, but you do have to know how to operate a reactor, therefore...degree not needed, but intense education is required.
- Navicerts, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Everyone I have worked for has had no idea what they need, engineer, designer, programmer, applications specialist. HR pulls these words right out of their ass. In addition, job descriptions are no better. If you are going to be working as a companies only programmer you won't have any idea what is required of you until a few weeks on the job go by. Then you will end up being a programmer/DBA/Sysadmin/developer/engineer :(
- Xarou, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I got a computer science job for about 40k a year and I had very little experience actually programming before I started looking for a job out of college. Granted that was a retarded idea and I tell everyone to get internships because it greatly helps you out. I guess I was just lucky, but it can be done.
- BigEazy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12I never said he didn't have a degree, but theoretically you could become the president without having a college degree...
- ABadInAlbany, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12What's the diff (other than $3k) in this article between a "Computer Software Engineer" and a "Computer Programmer"? Software Engineers tend to make more dough than plain old programmers who simply implement, rather than engineer, software ... yet not according to this article they don't. Bad data? Bad writing? Both? Software Engineer here.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7They forgot:
Director
Actor - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10There's more to compensation than base pay, especially if you have a degree...or two.
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