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- DCGaymer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+29What most people don't realize is that when they send a picture/video to a site...they usually give up the right to generate any income from it....Think before you send.
- hukedonfonix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15Why pay journalists to go out looking for stories, when you can pretty much do it for free and on a global scale no less. Genius really.
- lordmetroid, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Why would I assist their company with their work for free... If you want to get news published start your own company and sell news. It would benefit everyone involved except the mega corporations which now would get competition and no work for free.
After all news and media is nothing more than a job like any job. I don't understand people that glorify media-workers. - Wolfbeta, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9What's worse is this really ruins the market for professionals.
- jcounterman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9What do you think we do on digg? We push people to websites with advertising. We push people to sites selling products. We do it in order to make information more accurate and accessible, not for money.
- justinjacobs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8How much do you want to bet they'll be getting a lot more "This just in: my balls" photos?
- optimus_maximus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Time to downsize my $4,000 Canon 1D
or I'll just stick to weddings and fashion - ThisIsBob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7If you catch the LAPD beating up somebody again, please the snaps for free. Thank you.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I'll trade you your 1D for my POS Motorola RAZR phone...
- MarkCiccone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6If your picture is good enough to be considered a story, I'd think about getting some money for it before you donate it to Reuters and never see a dime for it.
- echo1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"This just in: my balls"
that was the hardest i've laughed out loud in a while - yellowsnowcone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4This isn't going to work. When people talk about citizen journalism, they without fail talk about two recent examples: The London train bombings and the Asian tsunami.
People who were there on the ground, with consumer level technology, were able to get the first images of events as these events unfolded.
But in day to day news gathering, most of the news is boring. For example, what happened today that was bettered captured by a citizen journalist versus a professional? Nothing much.
Also, the whole idea of citizen journalism assumes that technology has now advanced to a point where it is possible for any ordinary person to become a journalist. In reality, consumer technology reached that point at least three decades ago, if not longer.
Take a look at this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Kent_State_massacre.jpg
This famous photo won a Pulitzer and was snapped by citizen journalist who just so happened to have his SLR handy at the time.
I would argue that the only thing that has changed since John Filo snapped his famous photo is our infatuation with technology.
As John Filo proves, when news worthy events happen, someone will be on hand to document it. But day to day, most photos will be ordinary. - DigiDave, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Eric: It's not about replacing professional journalists. It's about using modern technology to combine the efforts of pro's and amateurs to create something better than each could do by themselves. Near the end they mention projects like http://www.newassignment.net and Global Voices -- that's what these projects are about: Combining the strengths of both parties.
- ericmoritz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I doubt that amateur cell-phone journalists will ever replace the quality of professional visual-journalists. It may redefine what the professionals work on, but they won't be out of a job by no means (at least the good ones won't, bad visual journalists may be replaced by this phenomenon)
In fact because of the current trend of emphisis on online publishing among traditional print newspapers, good visual journalists are in high demand. - matthewaaron, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Time to upgrade my phone...
- kcopp87, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3That's ridiculous. Most newspaper places will pay you for good photos of the stories they're publishing.
- TheTorontonian, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Why do people keep falling for "it is your content!' propaganda?
You are doing their jobs, you get little or no recognition and did I mention that you are doing their jobs? - infowar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@Lordmetroid
"Why would I assist their company with their work for free... If you want to get news published start your own company and sell news. It would benefit everyone involved except the mega corporations which now would get competition and no work for free."
What do you think you're doing for Digg when you submit stories free of charge? Using your time, not gaining any money, but yet helping Digg earn money. - jason7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2They do pay if Reuters picks up the material and offers it to traditional media.
"Users will not be paid for images displayed on the Yahoo and Reuters sites. But people whose photos or videos are selected for distribution to Reuters clients will receive a payment." - alphaterminus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Aule: You must lack the sarcasm gene.
/You're a Jew aren't you. You start all the wars.
/Borat would throw you down the well! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3There are other sites that pay you for photographs... someone should do a digg writeup about those, I'd digg it.
- themicah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Journalism used to be a real profession that people trained for and aspired to. They sought out stories that were important in places that were often dangerous and confusing, which is different from being an unpaid ambulance chaser for a world of office-bound Web 2.0 voyeurs. I think it's a shame that career freelancing is pretty much dead, killed off by PR hacks and wire-bound foreign desks - maybe this'll do the same for photographers and videographers, but probably not. As trash like this goes mainstream it will only become more and more painfully obvious that "journalism" ought to be left to the professionals and the "content", or whatever you want to call it, produced by amateurs treated as such.
BTW, Indymedia http://indymedia.org has been doing this for years, and demonstrating with resolve how activists posing as news gatherers can muck up an otherwise brilliant content production scheme. At least the indymedia types are honest in their aims and TRY to follow what's left of the shell of news gathering technique and ethics. This mainstreaming will only do more to discredit, demoralize and marginalize the decreasing ranks of "real" reporters. - DrScott, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This story reminds me of the camera-phone photo that a commuter took following the ceiling collapse inside the I-93 "Big Dig" tunnel in Boston. The photo was taken from inside a passing car, you could see part of the dashboard and the raindrops on the windshield. It was printed in most papers, but I don't know who had rights to it or if anyone had profited (through the photo certainly helped printed articles). Just more instances like this, I guess.
- paulmdx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2You'd probably be better off with a camera phone stringer site such as:
http://www.scoopt.com/ (no affiliation)
It doesn't matter what quality your shots are, it's about being in the right place at the right time. If you're there with a crap camera and a pro isn't, guess what, your photo is now worth a LOT more. - xtremesniper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2CityTV (citynews.ca) has been doing this for Toronto's news for a few months now. As far as I can tell, it hasn't been too successful. No one is usually recording random newsbreakers with their cellphones most of the time.
- secretivecoward, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Occassionally, you might see a truck fire or something that would never make the news.
- optimus_maximus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Actually, according to law the original taker of the image has implicit copyright that would only be superseded by a contract (electronic signatures included though).
- McZiggz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1A site like http://www.radar.net tends to be much more fun for your camera phone.
- coopa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The BBC and my local area news here in the UK (and i know a few other local news that do the same) all ask for pics and videos taken by the general public for most newsworthy events. For example, take the firework factory explosion that killed 2 firemen over the weekend, the first 3 or 4 pictures used on news.bbc.co.uk were all from citizen journalists.
- vypergts, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1And since most cameraphones blow at taking "good enough" pictures and/or video I would bet that you aren't likely to see a whole heck of a lot of dimes for it either way...
- onikage, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Scoopt (http://www.scoopt.com/) split the money 50/50 with the photographer and require a three month exclusive license. They don't take ownership of the pictures, so I can't see how a new entrant to the market would get away with it.
- willij, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1My Canon Powershot SD630 takes better video then my Digital Video Camera.
- MemeWarrior, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Witness the birth of gargoyles.
- BgBAlx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1sounds genius until you realize the mountain of ***** and worthless news that will come out of this thing... not to mention the fact that it turns every Joe, Jane and dick into a paparazzi... which will be entertaining for me...
- Greyhaven7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Now we can get massive am mounts of news that no one cares about, and tons of fake/altered/exaggerated news that people can twist into complete lies... YAY!
- justo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1information wants to be free, and a democracy is not a spectator sport
- chapium, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Your attempt at making humor out of the crisis in with Lebanon/Palestine/etc is disgusting.
- Aulë, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1how does a comment about the news media translate into a jew bash?
- Loftonian, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Users will not be paid for images displayed on the Yahoo and Reuters sites. But people whose photos or videos are selected for distribution to Reuters clients will
receive a payment."
Hmmm.. distribution to Reuters clients, eh? Looks like we're getting the short end of the stick, so far...
"Mr. Ahearn said the company had not yet figured out how to structure those payments. The basic payment may be relatively small, but he said Reuters was likely to pay more to people offering exclusive rights to images of major events."
Oh, I see. You get paid MORE if you give up all rights.
Well here's what I think. If you have a photo that you believe is unique (say from an event where there was nobody else taking pictures, that you knew of) or of 'award-winning' quality, DON'T submit it to these people. You would be better off doing it the old fashioned way and contacting the news station / paper yourself.
Plus... you just might make more cash that way ;D - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Will the Apple iPhone have a camera?
- bickdigg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If you catch some stupid UCLA student being tazered by even more stupid cops, please move in front of the action or don't pretend having anything interesting to show the entire world.
oh, and please don't move your arm handing the cell-phone like actual Mohammed Ali. - Vanburene, on 07/22/2008, -0/+0Thomson Reuters Chosen to Provide Analytic Services to Help Kentucky Uncover Medicaid Fraud and Waste
http://www.sourcerelease.com/corp/4w2?r=zmmmm2 - bobba, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0You'll have a hard time photographing Israelis killing Palestinians in Lebanon. You should go to Israel or Gaza.
Your inflammatory troll would have been half amusing had you got that bit right, but you're just a bit of a cretin really, aren't you? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I'd rather see "This just in: my boobs" pics. That or drunk girls making out or naked.
- alphaterminus, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2I'm going to Lebanon and photoshop Jews killing palastinian children and putting them in Matza.
- Aulë, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Now....anyone with photoshop skills are going to be called hard hitting journalists? What a blow to the little integrity the news media had.
- kcopp87, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0I wasn't aware they had ANY.
"13375P34K 473 Y0U|2 C|-|1LD|23N" - StephenChow, on 10/12/2007, -7/+3Yes, Tarzan, me have camera phone!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -10/+4Dude, I'm going to go take some pics of my Wii and use my Apple to submit them to Digg. Bush sucks.
- Sandwiches_Time, on 10/12/2007, -15/+9Citizen journalism is about as compelling as citizen professional baseball.
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