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- oneonlydk, on 06/04/2009, -3/+57There are plenty of decent muslim people in the world, but we as Americans act if we're at war with the whole religion. Theres alot we can learn from one another if give the chance.
- battins, on 06/04/2009, -2/+34It is worth noting that Islam and Christianity are both very similar religions. Both founded around the idea that there is one god, both started by very influential prophets that devoted their whole life to social justice, and as soon as they both died their teachings were hi-jacked by whoever had the power and influence to control their followers. But the teachings of both religions are generally pretty nice. (Although I condemn religion, because people it take it way farther than how to act towards your fellow man)
- inactive, on 06/04/2009, -2/+32The shop owner sounds like a pretty cool guy. And the robber sounds really pathetic...
- PhobosDeimos, on 06/04/2009, -4/+28I'm touched. Al-Qaeda could use a few pointers from this man.
- deviouskoopa, on 06/04/2009, -3/+26Why is this reported in Australia?
- elliotys, on 06/04/2009, -8/+30The shop owner did the right thing. Of course most diggers/NRA members would advocate shooting the robber, but the store owner was able to keep a cool head and put ***** in perspective. What he did takes REAL courage. It's much easier to take a life than to save one.
- tgjerusalem, on 06/04/2009, -6/+23But not all religious people are the same.
There are a lot of social and ethical and philosophical approaches to life, some theological and some not, and different ones can bring out the better natures of many people. They don't always, and sometimes the same philosophy that inspires many admirable people can simultaneously fuel or inform the misguided or even dangerous, but that doesn't make the approach itself inherently bad, or mean it isn't still useful to many people.
A man who has become so desperate he attempts a stupid dangerous robbery because he has no idea how to support his family or hope that any other option will arrive, might find structure or community or a new way of approaching his situation through a religious community.
It's not a bad thing that in a very tense and potentially deadly moment, one man asked forgiveness for a stupid act and another took pity and gave it. And if the would-be robber recognizes that he was given mercy by a man who could have killed him or sent him to jail, and wants to emulate that, that isn't a bad thing either.
If that mercy and the potential for a man turning his life around is based on Islam, I hope the man finds a good Imam, finds a community of people who might help. - battins, on 06/04/2009, -5/+22Clearly you know a ton about Islam!
- Lonandubh, on 06/04/2009, -1/+17Because, you know, owning a gun makes you a murderer. Just like having a penis makes you a rapist, and having an internet connection makes you a pirate. Clearly.
- YodaOfDarkness, on 06/04/2009, -19/+34Try to rob a Muslim man in New York: $40 and a loaf of bread in your hands.
Try to rob a Christian man in Arkansas: $10 worth of lead in your chest. - williamlee, on 06/04/2009, -1/+14I'm an atheist. You still got dugg.
Am I revolting my faith? No. No faith, no structure to go against. I became an atheist from growing up in a deep south town where religion is the primary excuse for violence, thinking about the world at large and how I approach.
Is religion for me? No, but who the hell am I to say whether or not someone's belief is *****?
Shouting loudly in the marketplace, "You are all fools. I have the answer!" is the same practice that drove me further away from religion. It's because of this militant attitude applied to atheism that we are subjected to the common opinion of us. It is a bad habit that needs to be stopped.
I am proud to be an atheist. I will gladly tell anyone that I am one. They can try to convert me. To no avail. I will, however, not tell anyone that they're wrong. I simply disagree. Why waste the time in a pathetic, foolish attempt to convert these people? The time is just as wasted as the attempt to convert me. - MisterMajusty, on 06/04/2009, -1/+14I don't know what to make of this article. I figured it would've been one of those "Guns save lives and deters crime" articles I usually see on here. Regardless, I like acts of kindness which helps restore my faith in humanity. I'm just not sure if the assailant was telling the truth about feeding his starving family. It's nice to see people turn the other cheek. Some religious nutcases are extreme, but most others are down to Earth good people.
- slyzxx, on 06/04/2009, -6/+19Wait so because if he`s a Muslim he`s a terrorist ? no wonder the worlds thinks Americans are ignorant.
- Wade, on 06/04/2009, -0/+9It's common for countries outside of America to report on international news.
- PsychoBrat, on 06/04/2009, -2/+10It's a damned good excuse, though, if you think you're about to be shot.
- ethan406, on 06/04/2009, -1/+9Shop owner went to get him milk to go along with the bread, but he took off. How's he gonna eat that loaf without milk?!
- Art3Zero, on 06/04/2009, -0/+8I bet they'll turn this into a movie.
- inactive, on 06/04/2009, -1/+9Try robbing a muslim man in Saudi Arabia.
Or try to stop making sweeping strawman arguments. - LilJimmyNordin, on 06/04/2009, -0/+8A megaton
- Tw3ek, on 06/04/2009, -1/+8@battins
That doesn't really sound like religions fault as much as it sounds like peoples. I'm not a giant fan of religion either, but some people will take anything too far, not just religious matters. - SystemicThought, on 06/04/2009, -1/+8I'm going to have to agree with VTnerd here, but I think he could have been more diplomatic. If I have my handgun in my jacket, and a mugger demands my wallet, I'd give him my wallet, call the police, and cancel my credit cards. I wouldn't even pull the gun out unless I thought I was in real danger, I wouldn't try and use it to defuse a situation that I thought would end without violence. I think most reasonable gun owners would do the same.
- Pensi, on 06/04/2009, -4/+10Compassion, *****! Do-you-know-it?
- vtnerd, on 06/04/2009, -7/+13What a fool you are.
Most gun owners would do everything possible to avoid taking a life. You seem to have confused wild-west movies with present-day gun ownership. Please refrain from speaking about that which you know nothing about. - inactive, on 06/04/2009, -1/+7You suck.
- GrimReeper, on 06/04/2009, -1/+7You're saying the US doesn't = the world. Stop the presses.
- Pixelante, on 06/04/2009, -1/+7Back then a lot of religious leaders were formidable warriors. Peace and love is OK, but some Klingon stuff never harms.
- inactive, on 06/04/2009, -1/+6inb4 magazine
- slyzxx, on 06/04/2009, -3/+8That`s sad if you have to rob people to feed your family.
I feel for the robber but theft should never ever be the answer. - inactive, on 06/04/2009, -1/+6Your point?
Maybe we should all donate cash and goods to people who rob convenience stores?? - freedomischaos, on 06/04/2009, -2/+7Actually, depending on the rounds bought it will probably fall between $5-15$ and that is saying he emptied the whole clip. Of course a little bit more if they have an extended mag.
- williamlee, on 06/04/2009, -1/+6Goes to show that Javert ain't the answer to every Jean Val Jean.
- tgjerusalem, on 06/04/2009, -1/+5Read the damn article - Mr. Sohail didn't tell him to become Muslim, it was the robber's idea.
- CRCulver, on 06/04/2009, -7/+11You know, Muhammad was one of the most formidable warriors in history. He repeatedly led his followers into bloody battle. Now, you might excuse this and claim that Muhammad had to fight to defend the faith, but the birth of Islam wasn't all sunshine and rainbows before the religion was "hijacked" by violent elements, and the difference between the founders of Christianity and Islam is pretty conspicuous.
- SystemicThought, on 06/04/2009, -3/+6Unlike Catholics and their "social justice" which is supposed to involve care for the poor, many Muslims are hardcore about the Five Pillars, one of which includes the following (ganked from wikipedia):
Zakah or alms-giving, is the practice of charitable giving by Muslims based on accumulated wealth, and is obligatory for all who are able to do so. It is considered to be a personal responsibility for Muslims to ease economic hardship for others and eliminate inequality. Zakat consists of spending 2.5% of one's wealth for the benefit of the poor or needy, including slaves, debtors and travellers. A Muslim may also donate more as an act of voluntary charity (sadaqah), in order to achieve additional divine reward. - Myztry, on 06/04/2009, -1/+4Firstly Australia isn't directly at war with a Muslim dominated country, so it's less sensitive news.
Secondly, we aren't overrun by Christians so there isn't that same religious spite. By and large both religions are irrelevant to Australia - so it's a non issue.
Thirdly, we are a highly multicultural society. Being only a young country - we're all foreigners. Even the English/Irish/Scottish/Dutch muggles like myself. Race isn't much of an issue. - ghatid, on 06/04/2009, -1/+4And a liar...
- inactive, on 06/04/2009, -2/+4Many Old Testament figures were also renowned warriors. I hate how people go on about the violence of Islam while glossing over Judaism and Christianity, as if they're somehow free from that.
- dysphonix, on 06/04/2009, -0/+2Right, so when he converted to islam "by him self" there was no shotgun pointed at him? If it wasn't textual context then made him convert, then he was "told to do so" by a rifle pointed at his face.
And yes, I read the article...you arse... - drunkenstyle, on 06/04/2009, -0/+2Sure is 8 years ago in here.
- Lonandubh, on 06/04/2009, -3/+5Well, yeah. That's about how christianity and islam got so popular...
- 11familyguy11, on 06/04/2009, -6/+8A few days from now we'll hear about the robber suing for psychological damages caused by having a gun pointed at him...and he will win.
- mattbatt77, on 06/04/2009, -1/+3draw a satirical cartoon of Jesus: $100 for placement in opinion section of newspaper
draw a satirical cartoon of Allah: headless - Art3Zero, on 06/04/2009, -0/+2I don't think religion really mattered in this scenario. The man had the clerk had the decency not to shoot the robber.
- tgjerusalem, on 06/04/2009, -2/+4Mr. Sohail didn't ***** try to convert him, it was the robber's idea.
- Art3Zero, on 06/04/2009, -1/+3How about missionary style? You play the distressed villager and I'll be the Christian prick. I have a bowl of rice in one hand and a bible in the other. Which, do you choose first? (Hint, it's the bible you jackass)
- slyzxx, on 06/04/2009, -4/+6He wasn`t told to convert to Islam that man made his own decision to do so by him self.
- cfuse, on 06/04/2009, -0/+2We have to have something to laugh at.
- sooperdooper, on 06/04/2009, -0/+1Our jails are filled with the desperate poor. Always have been, always will be.
- Art3Zero, on 06/04/2009, -1/+2Probably because Christians ran the crusades for a long time the same exact way!
- Dundaman, on 06/04/2009, -0/+1Family comes first, Morals come second. For me at least.
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