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- nerogtr, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16Goldeneye on N64 = awesome
Goldeneye the movie = awesome - hollowex, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13vote no for the term goovies
- imafish2002, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Most random duggmirror link ever.
- ZenMojo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8FTA:
"Here's why: films don't allow for user interaction. You sit down, watch the film and then you leave. Your enjoyment comes from having something projected upon you. But imagine, if you will for a moment, a movie which rewrote itself depending on how you thought and reacted."
You mean a videogame?
Anyway, the solution is clear. Stop making movies with the hopes of selling them solely on their being based on videogames! This isn't rocket science!!!
If you had one person who cared as much about Halo and moviemaking as Peter Jackson cared about Lord of the Rings and with anywhere near the talent and economic support, you would get a movie just as good. This isn't complicated.
And the same thing goes in the opposite direction. Just look at Escape from Butcher Bay. You had a guy who loved the Pitch Black universe, who loved videogames, and was willing to put the money into it. You got one of the best movie-->games ever!
Often, when you listen to gamers talk about why "goovies" don't succeed, they often say the stories don't work, the interactivity doesn't work, etc. But the fact is, what fails is changing the story from the game to the movie. What makes an entertaining cult hit or at least an economically successful popcorn flick is translating the game into a form that is entertaining to simply watch.
When it comes to videogames, I think Half-Life has the best shot. It's a brilliant idea, it's wildly clever, it has the pacing of an Indiana Jones flick in the adventure vein, it's morbidly funny, and if you include the sequel it has amazing characters. The story is written by a professional writer, so adapting it would be essentially the same as adapting a novel.
And I say this repeatedly and no one believes me, but you don't need Gordon to talk in a movie. It's unnecessary. Antonio Banderas in Desperado? Pretty much a mute. Robert Rodriguez made it work by constantly throwing him into situations and Antonio Banderas made it work by using the most important element in acting -- REACTING.
I think Shadow of the Colossus has a good chance, too, but you can't lose what was so awesome about that game. A friend of mine told me he was intimidated by the game but that he thought it was the coolest thing to watch ever. Mortal Kombat went pure gritty minimalist and had an entertaining cast. It basically took the game and cinematized it with no fluff, it took the formula that worked. Shadow of the Colossus has to be that minimalist. It has to be silent, it has to draw on mood, atmosphere, the beauty of the landscape, and the glorious horrific majesty of those monsters.
To consider that, you have to go back to movies like Fantasia, where there is no dialogue whatsoever but which has these awesome landscapes. That's only the first movie that came to mind. But the point is, videogames have storytelling devices that movies barely touch because filmmakers are more used to the script-based dialogue storytelling that they're used to from film school. But if you find a gamer who is used to following a videogame's storytelling methods, you may discover something new. - SelfAbortion, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Anyone else still holding their breath for the movie version of American McGee's Alice? Now that's a game that COULD be a spectacular movie, though I'm sure it will be as godawful as Alone in the Dark.
- contextclouds, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Only if you can play it with your...
(drum roll, please)
Wii.
Thank you, I'll be here all week. - goostoff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Someone has got to stop with these "trendy" terms.
Have some journalistic integrity and stop inventing terms so you can call claim to it when they never catch on. - 350Zed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Goldeneye was a movie that was turned into a game, not a movie based on a game (a "gaming movie", per this article).
- yensed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Darn. Thought it said "Goonies".
- Snay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The DoA movie gave me internal bleeding.
- The_Pope, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Uwe Boll is gonna pay this guy a visit and punch his lights out! lol
- Axon77, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I'm waiting for the conversion of Brokeback Mountain to a game.
- 350Zed, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Chronicles of Riddick film = pretty good
Chronicles of Riddick game = okay for a Doom knock-off (fun for about an hour, then entirely forgettable) - swayarrow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2the studio put the halo movie off production...there is doubt that they will ever make the halo movie...peter jackson gave up also...i saw it on aots
- ZenMojo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Nothing could be as awful as Alone in the Dark. Nothing. Not even BloodRayne.
- cyssero, on 04/18/2009, -1/+3Any spam that makes me laugh that much deserves a +1.
- z3rgRush, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I'd say Silent Hill was a fairly decent movie!
http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/silenthill/ - osbjmg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I think Metal Gear is kinda like a Movie/Game, only it's longer than a movie and way more involved... it's amazing.
- kingcam, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I thought that the first Tomb Raider was good.
- Dudibob, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2yeah, Microsoft wanted too much of a cut up front before the movie was even in the planning stage :(
- hello_world, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i think that if a shadow of the colossus movie was made, it's gotta be made differently. it shouldn't be treated too much like a movie or too much like a video game. cos for one thing the game's narrative is VERY minimalistic (and in a non-existent language, too). so to beef the narrative up, the movie have to magnify the relationship between the characters (which is, uh... the nameless boy, the lifeless girl, and... the horse?) by a LOT.
but other than that, the movie could still pull the emotional strings with the atmosphere, cos the game's surely pulled mine. but nonetheless, it'd be a really hard movie to do, i think. and the director? i think ang lee would fit the bill perfectly. his cinematography is usually pretty epic. - ChronicColonic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I don't think I am the only one who thinks Half-Life (1 and 2) could be a great movie...or maybe a weekly series for a couple of seasons on television.
- jcrewyayo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2this article's pretty good... but where's the silent hill? shiiiiitttttttt
- guytoronto, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3For Games -> Movies, Mortal Combat is still my personal favorite.
Doom was absolutely awful. The game had a good premise. The movie changed it, screwing it up completely. - CptCarnage, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Personally I think the Prince of Persia series has immense potential for a feature film. Sands of Time had a great story and good potential for a feature film. Even the original had potential back in the 8-bit days.
- ChronicColonic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I don''t think Gavies would be any better...in fact that name may be taken in the wrong way entirely. That name would attract a whole different crowd for completely different reasons.
- hello_world, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1oh yeah... and an ICO movie would be great too. i think that it has more movie potential than SotC, actually...
- Cheeseness, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Movies based on games usually fail because the people involved (production houses, directors, etc.) don't respect the IP.
Why did Spiderman go off when Daredevil fizzled? It's because the existing IP was respected and acknowledged. Same reason that LoTR did better than any other book movie.
It's plain and simple. The decision makers say "what games are selling well this year" and some poor sucker at the back of the room who actually plays a game says "Well... I really love playing [Street Fighter|Mario|Doom|Hesitant Weevil]" without realising that the focus will not be about finding a new way to explore the IP, but finding a new way to exploit all the people who worship it.
If only it worked the other way around. Us Monkey Island nuts have been frothing at the mouth for a MI movie. I'm sure Halo fans have been the same. Imagine if someone thought of making a movie set in the Starcraft universe, or a Descent movie (lol, without Eddie Murphy being the seekerbot). The franchises where the fans are actually begging for a movie are probably the best ones to tackle (I never asked for a Streetfighter movie. Did anyone??).
Personally I'd love to see stuff like Another World be made into a movie. A nice, elegant and simple story that's got a good mix of action and heart (I worship what Eric Chahi was able to accomplish without any linguistic communication).
Or how about a movie based on Moonstone or Dragon's Lair (some of those "Amiga flavoured turds" would turn out pretty good, as long as they respected the original IP)?
I don't think I'd pay to watch a Purple Saturn Day movie though.
:/ - SelfAbortion, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I concur.
- ZenMojo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The thing is, the Mario cartoons were pretty entertaining. They took the Mushroom kingdom, fleshed it out, but stuck really hard to the world that the games had created, complete with Yoshi and Toad and the Princess.
Even the Sonic cartoons were amusing for what they were worth (although the newest one seems to be far better than what us Americans got in the 90's).
Basically, the cartoons do it right. They know their audience, they know what they're going for, and they pull out all of the storytelling stops they need to in order to draw their intended audience. But producers for videogame movies almost think that the videogame is secondary to the "talent" and don't care that there is a story behind it.
I'm sorry, but Doom was about DEMONS FROM HELL coming to a Mars space station, not genetic experimentation. All you had to do was take Total Recall, mix it with Event Horizon, and throw in Aliens and you had your movie. I saw Doom for the first time a couple of days ago and all I can think is about how badly it screwed up when it could have easily succeeded with the exact same cast, director, and special effects team ... the writer was the weak link.
Remember, if your writer or your director sucks, your movie sucks. Unfortunately, Paul W.S. Anderson is both writer and director, so he has to work twice as hard to overcome his mediocrity in either area. - albinoMithos, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Hmm..you might wanna be a little more clear on which Mortal Kombat movie was good because Annihilation sucked. But yeah the original rocked.
- gregdlewis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'm still confident it'll be made by PJ/Blomkamp will be made. I have no proof to back that up, just a gut feeling.
- SelfAbortion, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I'm quite excited to hear they're going to try to make a movie out of Postal. Less excited at the fact that Mr. Boll is behind it.
- RandomGuySteve, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0that's a load of shilly-shally dilly-dally and you know it.
- SelfAbortion, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I haven't seen BloodRayne. I do sometimes enjoy goovies if they have good camp value and atmosphere, like the Resident Evil movies. I've heard that BloodRayne is terrible though so I haven't gone near it yet.
- doubleyoube, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5nice article
- azathothx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Chronicles of Riddick film = crud
Chronicles of Riddick game = excellent - digitalrift, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0goovies.. you can make terms like this up.. it takes deep idiocy to try and coin that..
games I would love to see in movie form:
Metal Gear Solid
Shadow of the Colussus
that's it really.. oh and Uwe Boll is in no way to be involved in making a video game movie. ever. in existence. - SpideyBD, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@350Zed
Actually the articles referred to both games to movies AND movies to games. BOTH. Same difference right? - Weakling, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Games and movies do mix. Public has proven it many times in the past and present. It sells and a lot of them make a profit. No critical acclaim? Who cares. If you enjoyed a movie or game, you enjoyed that movie or game, whatever a critic has to say about it.
- JeremiahLBurns, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4I can't believe they'd mention "Spirits Within" and not mention "Advent Children".
Final Fantasy VII - Awesome
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http://duggmirror.com - johnleitch, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3Good article.
Personally, I think the Lord of the Rings series has been pretty good, and that has been stemmed off the Films visually (though if I remember, the storyline from the books?) - laterthanyou, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1goovies, govies or whatever the term the author is trying to coin is lame. Based on the game "---" will do fine. It's like saying that LOTR is a boovie, and not "Based on the book trilogy of the same name." I can understand movies to games, but not the other way around. Why watch a condensed inaccurate retelling of something that you can go home and play immersively? I think the only way a movie based on a game can be successfully is to take a universe that is very fleshed out and tell a story unrelated to the main game. Halo as a movie would do better to tell back story before the master chief wakes up and concentrate on the other Spartans.
- YumYumKittyLoaf, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Sorry, but I LOVED the mario movie. Loved it. That might only be because when I was little, no matter the context, if i saw mario somewhere in a movie, i loved it, Like in three ninjas 3, when they go to japan, they show a Mario inflatable bouncy thing.
Hrm, i'm really nerdy... - yifang75, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Chronicles of Riddick film = crud
Chronicles of Riddick game = excellent - The_Pope, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2Plus the DoA movie was awesome!
