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- lordtyros, on 10/11/2007, -6/+90Disappointing. Buried for lack of Deliverance-style hillbilly incest.
- empressofmetal, on 10/11/2007, -5/+49That's very thoughtful of the mother to plan that far ahead for her child.
- jwdarkstar, on 10/11/2007, -10/+45Oh big deal, that sort of thing happens all the time in Arkansas.
- hirshi, on 10/11/2007, -7/+39Cute.
- relaxeder, on 04/17/2009, -4/+36That's it, the Internet is over.
Everyone go home. - KidVicious, on 10/11/2007, -4/+29Maybe so she will actually be related to her child.
- DapperDave, on 10/11/2007, -2/+24I love how people are so desperate to read a story about incest that they're actually disappointed when (if) they read the article...
- ScottMaximus1, on 10/11/2007, -2/+23People in Arkansas apparently don't have a sense of humor either
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -3/+21Creepy.
- WarpFox, on 10/11/2007, -3/+17Hot.
- rnwen2750, on 10/11/2007, -4/+17Wow. I dunno. Just wow. At least it is not the fertilized eggs of her mom and father. 'Cause that would be a bit much.
- jamesallen74, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11Runs in the family.
- dengar69, on 10/11/2007, -5/+16Im just glad to know the Canadians are just a ***** up as we are.
- neonenergy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11The girl has a chromosomal problem called Turner's syndrome, so she can't use her own eggs to have children.
Using her mother's eggs gives her the ability to have a child related to her. - slapded, on 10/11/2007, -6/+17This is nothing new. West Virginians have been doing this for ages.
- Pfhreak, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turner%27s_Syndrome
It's not hereditary, as it causes sterility (hence freezing eggs for if the daughter decides she wants kids), and it's caused by chromosomal defects, not "bad genes". - fantasticFlan, on 10/11/2007, -3/+13She's giving her daughter the *option* of having a child she'll be genetically related to, what the hell is wrong with that? Or did you not read past the headline?
- nakani, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10According to Wikipedia, there were 118,000 children waiting for adoption in the U.S. in 2004.
- TehSwat, on 10/11/2007, -8/+18I thought she got impregnated from her father.
That would have made a more interesting story. - thcobbs, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11I though she would have been from a much more southern latitude.
- dclowd9901, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8"For my 18th birthday, my mom bought me a new car!"
"Aw, man. All my mom got me was in-vitro fertilization." - Alegoo92, on 10/11/2007, -13/+21Why does she need her mom's eggs? Get someone who your not related to.
- BESTenemy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8How about future scenario with frozen grandmother eggs? Imagine giving birth to your mother's sister. Don't even need time travel paradoxes for that sort of thing.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7"The girl, Flavie Boivin, cannot have children naturally because of a chromosomal condition called Turner's syndrome. "
Her mother's action provides the girl's only hope of having a child that is related to her by blood. I don't know if that matters, but it's nice that she'll have the option available to her. - fantasticFlan, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9Because she can't. That's why her mom is doing this.
- greenbeanz69, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7wow i cant believe im the only one who got that reference and im only 20. its from the great movie "Chinatown"
- Jugalator, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8I hope that was a deliberate troll...
- abaldet, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9I think the odds are that when the daughter is of child-bearing age, she will probably investigate using donated eggs to have a child. Having a perceptive mother give her child the chance to have a child via the same process she would have turned to anyway, but with the "upgrade" of the egg being genetically related, seems like a great idea. I don't see how it would be any more "unethical" than accepting eggs from anyone else where the donor was known. And she does always have the choice to NOT use them.
- griz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6So, the girl would really only be acting as a surrogate.
- MeMongo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6You are close, but in Arkansas, it's the _father_ sharing his seed with the daughter, not the mother sharing her eggs
- Dracker, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6You don't type like you're 18, though.
- InferiorWang, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6If you would RTFA you would see:
"The girl, Flavie Boivin, cannot have children naturally because of a chromosomal condition called Turner's syndrome." - unicronband, on 10/11/2007, -4/+10I used to have a neighbor who, when she was 16, was inseminated by her stepfather using a turkey baster. She used to get drunk and joke about it. She had the kid and the stepdad, a Akron cop, has somehow gotten out of jail.
http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_fullstory.asp?id=31959
Here is a song we wrote about it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOJ9b7qL_tg - barryiggins, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5dugg for the comment, but your name cracked me up also
- CorpT, on 10/11/2007, -5/+10So, the same person that gave birth to a child with genetic problems is hoping to pass those on to another generation? Why is adoption not being considered? These are clearly bad genes so why keep passing them along? We're sciencing ourselves away from natural selection.
- sean9812, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6Wow, that was really really nice of her to do that for her daughter. To be completely honest if I was a woman, I probably wouldn't have done that :-/ I don't understand where they are saying that it is not ethical. She will be carrying the baby and caring for it. Also, it will only be her half sister.
- wannabenomad, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4A lot of people are making comments that this is somehow unethical because the girl isn't being forced to adopt children if she wants to have them. I agree that way too much money is spent on IVF and other fertility treatments, money that could go to adopting children in need. I don't think that I personally would go through fertility treatments were I infertile. However, I understand the desire to carry a child for 9 months, breastfeed it and have it be genetically related to me. Obviously, a lot of women feel an even stronger need for that.
Another point that seems to be overlooked is that this will give the girl the opportunity to have a child which is genetically related to her husband, which may be very important to him.
With a world full of adoptable children, is it the absolute best ethical decision? Maybe not, but I still applaud the mother for giving her child the option. - noamsml, on 10/11/2007, -8/+12"She's my daughter!"
*slap*
"She's my sister!"
*slap*
"She's my daughter!"
*slap*
"She's my sister!"
*slap*
"She's my daughter and sister!" - texnofobix, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5I'm my own grandpa?
- blaaguuu, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4These kinds of questions are generally answered by reading the article... Try it sometime.
- fantasticFlan, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6No, that would have made a more scandalous story, a story we've all heard before. This story was something new.
- CorpT, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5My bad then. Freeze away. I still vote for adoption for most cases like this though.
- mfratt, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4"My mother's my sister!" - GTA: Vice City
- Rizin, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5You guys are sick, she cant produce her own eggs so her mother is going to giver her some so that when she wants a child the Eggs will be related to her.
- g30ff, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Actually, it is more like a slightly odd high-tech version of within-family adoption. Genetically, the daughter's child would *only* be her sister, a .5 relative. Incest produces higher relatedness and exposes deleterious recessive alleles to selection, and is just plain icky.
- Jennifurret, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I think they're missing a giant problem her. Turner syndrome is one of those genetic diseases that become more frequent as the mother ages. The mother's eggs are getting older, so their spindle fibers can't separate chromosomes as accurately. So effectively, she'll just be donating eggs that are also likely to be defected. It's a nice gesture, but I don't think it'll have a happy outcome.
Anyway, I'm not so sure the daughter will have children anyway. People with Turner syndrome have higher rates of miscarriage and heart problems associated with pregnancy. - kelpdip, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Whoa, hold on.
All genetic ethics aside, adopting a child parented by 2 random people would feel MORE like your own child?
It seems fairly reasonable that this is the closest thing she can have to a child that is her genetic progeny.
As long as she isn't impregnated by her father it isn't really any creepier than any other egg donor situation. - barryiggins, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I ain't stopping until I see giant squid copulating with a Star Destroyer.
Video or it didn't happen. - bmalnad, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I agree. I have two adopted children, but I don't think adoption is the best choice for everyone. Some people have trouble accepting a child that is not biologically theirs. There isn't anything wrong with that. It just means adoption isn't a good choice for them.
- rhabd0mancer, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4The girl's name is DiaBetty.
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