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- Bersy, on 09/03/2008, -2/+116"The mastermind of the scheme, Michael Mastromarino, pleaded guilty Friday"
With a name like that, how can he NOT be the mastermind? - ironeus, on 09/02/2008, -2/+52The sale on the black-market for these body parts is one thing, but since they were used for procedures such as knee and hip replacements think of the shady doctors purchasing cadaver parts.
- inactive, on 09/03/2008, -18/+60...They're dead....they don't need their body parts any more. Let someone who's suffering have them. That's where all my organs/body parts are gonna go when I die.
- Lucas123, on 09/03/2008, -2/+35I'm an organ, body parts/"whatever ya want" donor. Once I'm dead, my body is nothing but an empty shell. However, if a deceased's family does not accept that a physical body does not a person make and want that body as a memorial to the their loved one, then it's a cruel, nefarious thing to desecrate the remains and it should be a crime.
- meruru, on 09/03/2008, -3/+33The guy broke the law and he should be punished but I never understood while some people would rather their organs rot in a box in the ground rather than them potentially saving another person's life.
- Ninh, on 09/03/2008, -1/+23So this is where those penis size enhancements that I keep getting email about come from.
- inactive, on 09/04/2008, -0/+20pay me the 4k while im alive and you can have what you want when im dead
- acmaurer, on 09/03/2008, -2/+20I'm really not surprised - and I don't think this is anything new either.
- Corinne716, on 09/04/2008, -2/+18I agree, except the body parts weren't tested in any way to see if they were contaminated or anything. Think of how sick the person receiving those could get. I'm all for donating my organs and everything but this is different.
- rald84, on 09/04/2008, -1/+16use a system like spain's , opt-out not opt-in for donations
- Eezyville, on 09/03/2008, -5/+20Wow, what a shady world we live in. This is very disturbing and I have lost some trust in the doctors I may have to meet with for any type of surgery in the future.
- inactive, on 09/03/2008, -0/+14If I die. Sure.
- ohnoerino, on 09/03/2008, -1/+14This is like something from The Sopranos or out of a movie. I can't believe people are actually capable of this.
- chrissku, on 09/04/2008, -1/+13If I'm dead and someone wants to sell my parts to a living person who needs em....have at it.
Just please don't kill me for the parts. That would be unproductive. - jeremyduffy, on 09/04/2008, -0/+12You mean this hip is USED! I want my money back!
- anotherjack, on 09/04/2008, -0/+11Someone somewhere is walking around with a Master Piece of Alistair Cooke inside them.
- olasonn, on 09/04/2008, -0/+11You would be looking over your shoulder for the rest of your life.
- badfrog, on 09/04/2008, -0/+10Wasn't this a CSI episode as well?
- JohnFlux, on 09/04/2008, -0/+10If that's the best cause for them, then sure why not?
- Rhonwyn, on 09/04/2008, -0/+10Using cadaver parts for ACL surgery is actually a common practice. The doctors may not have been shady, they were just lied to about where the cadaver came from and if they could use it. The article even said they had falsified documents for names and causes of death so that the tissues could be used.
- skidoooo, on 09/04/2008, -2/+12I work at a funeral home, and in part i agree but its at the discretion of the clients if they don't feel comfortable with there loved ones being chopped up into pieces. And to be quiet honest after seeing some bodies i really wouldn't want anything from them never mind there organs.
- olasonn, on 09/04/2008, -2/+11Well, as long as the family gets the money, I guess it would be ok.
- InsaneOni, on 09/04/2008, -0/+9I have been saying this since I was like 12 yrs old. I don't understand why the system isn't set up this way. We could save hundreds or thousands of lives each year if we implemented this kind of system.
- ssquared22, on 09/03/2008, -4/+13This is horrible. I can't imagine how much I would be devastated if this happened to a loved one without his/her previous consent.
- rohanch, on 09/04/2008, -0/+8BBC Horizon did a documentary on this a while ago
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2821260964 ...
(definitely worth watching, if not a little disgusting...) - blankman, on 09/04/2008, -0/+8Because it's should be the person who died's choice as to what should happen to his/her body when they die.
It's called respect, the dead deserve as much respect as the living, and if you don't understand why, then I pity you. - BXRWXR, on 09/04/2008, -1/+9Who would want them?
- ohnoerino, on 09/03/2008, -1/+8Agreed.
- RudeTurnip, on 09/04/2008, -1/+8That argument is irrelevant and separate from what we're talking about. The fact of the matter is that someone is profiting off of dead bodies when they don't have the right to. And worse, many of those bodies/parts are diseased and hurting living people. Even using your argument, the body is at least the property of the family.
- dshPls, on 09/04/2008, -3/+10***** dictating what other people can do with their own bodies. It's no business of yours, and you opinion should only reflect how the procedure is handled after you die.
- inactive, on 09/04/2008, -0/+7Hell, I think more people should donate their entire bodies to doctors, so that people who really need limbs can do so safely and legally. Those limbs will eventually go back into the ground anyway; personally I think it's kind of cool to get sucked into the earth at different times. Plus it'd really confuse the aliens that have been studying me for the past 29 years.
- Hurricane, on 09/04/2008, -1/+7OLD NEWS
BURIED
But, yes they should be locked up for a looong time and made to pay just about every penny they ever make again to the families.
New laws need made to increase punishment for such acts. - artvandal, on 09/04/2008, -1/+7FTA:
"Skin, bones, tendons and other parts -- some of them diseased -- were then sold around the country for dental implants, knee and hip replacements, and other procedures."
These parts were taken without permission and some were even contaminated. I don't think I'd want those in my body even if I needed them. - Jhiaxuz, on 09/04/2008, -0/+6It's shady until you have that little green sticker on your driver's license.
- Sraza, on 09/04/2008, -1/+6I agree that they are just meat and bones but taking from people without consent is wrong, morally and legally. I disagree with justifications that amounts to "the greater good". Who decides what is good and what is bad?
I would never agree with this scenario where the individual's rights and body are given to the perceived need of others. What happens if some drunk needs a new liver? Does this justify the harvesting of organs from unwilling donors? Even in the best case, you have a young child in need of a new liver, do you honestly think it's your decision to make? Just to reiterate that I agree with you that the body is nothing but material after death, but I contend that it's not my choice to make for others. - adhara, on 09/05/2008, -0/+5That's not the point.
Do you understand that they did this with some body parts that had diseases or were too old? That's not improving other people's lives.
There are regulations for this kind of stuff for a reason, you know. Health. - litkaj, on 09/04/2008, -0/+5Yeah, the one guy they found had his bones replaced with PVC pipe and umbrellas.
- modirebikar, on 09/03/2008, -2/+6does anybody have this funeral home? i want to change my funeral home before die!
- skipdog172, on 09/04/2008, -1/+5I wonder if I can find somebody who will pay me RIGHT NOW for a contract to my body parts when I die. I doubt it... :(
- mattdxy, on 09/04/2008, -0/+4It is pretty sick. And things like these could be happening all the time everywhere. Can't tell anymore how strong a person's morals are.
- phosphite, on 09/04/2008, -0/+4Dr. Nick: Hi everybody!
- Valujet, on 09/04/2008, -2/+5Um, this was news like 2 years ago.
- haikuFU, on 09/04/2008, -0/+3Too bad marking the donor box on your license means that they won't try as hard to save you if you're in a terrible accident. The actually need to harvest some organs while you're still alive. Have fun with that.
- pintomp3, on 09/04/2008, -1/+4"Just please don't kill me for the parts." that's why it's better as a donation system. as soon as their is a profit motive, it gets easy to push the line. we don't need a system that profits from pilfering the parts of the poor for the sake of the wealthy.
- inactive, on 09/04/2008, -1/+4You lose ownership of your body once you die. See, you no longer exist. Therefore you cannot claim it as your own.
- Anomaly100, on 09/04/2008, -0/+3Does anyone know why they would need dead body parts to make dental implants? It's unbelievable that these two guys actually thought up and then made a living out of cutting up dead bodies and selling them. They even drained the welfare system for all they could. These are two really creepy guys!
- kublerross, on 09/04/2008, -0/+3I dont know how you think things work, but doctors would not have the slightest clue where parts come from other than the hospital stocks Brand X
blame the numerous medical supply corporations who collect, prepare, package, market, and profit from these goods as legally obtained - eryximachus, on 09/04/2008, -0/+2Middlemen? You mean fences?
- bulletstorm, on 09/04/2008, -0/+2EWWWW
- KaivenTor, on 09/04/2008, -0/+2To an extent, this is a more complicated issue than most people percieve. For starters, there is a supply and demand for body parts. There has been ever since medical sciences started. People have been grave robbing for body parts (among other things) since the middle ages.
There is the issue of morality, people being reduced to a commoddity in death (as opposed to being treated like one in life, but that's a double standard to be discussed later). The donor system was set up to help stem some of these issues by allowing people to decide how their body is to be used instead of leaving it up to family, government, etc. But it's not enough.
But like all black markets, there has to be a need for this to continue. Scientists, doctors, certain supply businesses, need body parts to test, use, replace things that they wouldn't otherwise be able to obtain. Oftentime, these things get sold all over the place, so this type of black market isn't just foreign as we can see from the article. Because it's the black market, the money is good too, and frankly, human beings have done a lot worse for less money, so let's not kid ourselves here.
If this is going to continue to be an issue in the future, maybe there needs to be an extension to the donor program allowing a liscenced technician to disassemble multiple body parts and organs, allowing for a portion of the money generated by non-donor needed parts to go back to the families. -
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