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- lordthor, on 10/12/2007, -74/+244That's because people are slowly realizing that religion is the root of most of the evil in this world, and there's no way to know one way or the other.
- CaseyUCF, on 10/12/2007, -58/+142exactly.
that and there's no use for it - paulisnotdead, on 10/12/2007, -29/+98Not that religion itself is bad ,but when you want to kill people who don't have yours is when it becomes foolish. Religion is just another preference that people use as an excuse to hate.
- Noah0504, on 10/12/2007, -11/+78I wonder how many of those that claim "no religion" still believe in God.
- elnerdo, on 10/12/2007, -19/+83I'm not exactly sure what a religioin is... It sounds.. *naughty*.
- zweben, on 10/12/2007, -24/+80Washington- 25%! I should move there.
- techmonkey4u, on 10/12/2007, -4/+48"With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion."
-Nobel Laureate Steven Weinberg - TGMD, on 10/12/2007, -16/+58A bunch of people I know are agnostic... I personally think they are really atheists but just planning for the future just in case they are wrong in the end..
- emil1212, on 10/12/2007, -8/+47Where's Scientology?
Oh, nevermind, no cults allowed. - oxigen, on 10/12/2007, -12/+50If I had been surveyed, I would have answered "no religion" and yet, I do believe in God. Not in the sense that Christians, Muslims or most other religions today see it, but nevertheless I do believe in the concept of something beyond. Not a big angry bearded man, but I do believe in something that is somehow involved in everything at the deepest most point. It's hard to explain my views, and would take quite a few paragraphs, so I'll spare you the philosophy.
While many people didn't answer "no religion" in many states, I hope it's because of a realization that God isn't in a sacred book, and not because "are slowly realizing that religion is the root of most of the evil in this world." Much of the western cultures are cold-hearted, rational machines that are spiritually dead. Wake up, go to work, walk the dog, consume, consume, consume. It is this type of culture, I feel, that kills spirituality. I don't think religion itself is necesarily the problem, it's the people who take it too seriously, who allow themselves to be brainwashed, and carry out deeds "in God's name." They're the one's ***** ***** up for the rest of us.
I think spirituality is important. The feeling that we are part of nature, and not the supreme beings controlling it, is important. The attititude that there is no God, no nothing - that we are simply a bag of chemicals and life has no meaning - is what allows us to spew toxins into the atmosphere, into the waters, and leads onto a path of destruction. Whereas if people viewed all life as sacred, we might think twice before buying that new Hummer.
Now I hope I don't sound like an evangelizing troll, it's just my opinion that spirituality is important. But it only really works if people think for themselves what is True, what is Love, Beauty and God. Don't just read the Bible, Qur'an, Tao te Ching, Torah, Liber al Vel Legis, and take it literally, think for yourself. - jguy584, on 10/12/2007, -16/+48Seems religion is the ultimate ignorance
- izzybomb, on 10/12/2007, -5/+31Ha, check out Utah.
- invader, on 10/12/2007, -7/+31@jellomizer
you started out making an OK point... then all of your examples were simply heinous. Race was probably your best point, but you can't be certain racial equality (at least as far as rights are concerned) wouldn't have been reached sooner if it wasn't for religion.. IIRC, the KKK's and the Aryan Nations' discriminatory beliefs were both founded on religion... - jellomizer, on 10/12/2007, -36/+58RE: Invader,
Without Religion people will find new justifications to kill people. Most religions teach people to be peaceful, but they find a way to twist the words around to justify killing a group of people they don't like. If no one has a religion then they will fight over Race, Political Structure, Economic Systems, ...
Even the groups that are considered to be ultra peaceful today could be major waring factions.
Vegetarians vs. Meat Eaters war. In the vegetarians attempt to stop the mindless slaughter of animals and the Meat Eaters attempt to keep their economic system running and control animal populations.
vi vs. emacs war. Endless hours of internet flaming has heated to an all out scale both sides in time were able to get the non technical people into the equation the ultimate war of productive vs. features.
Environmentalist vs. Tech war. After Extremist environmentalist gain control their plan has goon even further that any technology is bad. So they will go to war with people who believe that technology is the answer.
In all reality the peaceful groups are the ones that scare me the most they get all riled up over the smallest things and shortly after they they will move towards violence.
Saying Religion is the primary cause of most conflicts in not true, there are other reasons they just find that Religion is the easiest way to get the troops up. - stylerm, on 10/12/2007, -4/+26There was a futurama episdeo called GodFellas which I base my faith on. Essentially, God exists, but if he does too much you become dependant on him. If he does nothing then no one has any faith. You can't count on him for anything and you have to do good things yourself to improve the world.
- marxmarv, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22No, Diebold won the election.
- RetroRufio, on 10/12/2007, -4/+24It's interesting to me how they separate the Christian denominations from Christianity (i.e. Baptist vs. Christian). That's like saying "I'm a physicist, but not a scientist".
- invader, on 10/12/2007, -9/+27we should also send our kind to push our beliefs on random members of society, door to door
- Bhima, on 10/12/2007, -13/+30Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace
You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world
You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+24I don't trust surveys anymore. Not since exit polls predicted John Kerry won the presidential election.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -13/+29I hate flash. Google hates it too.
- slumbuzzle, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16Wow, Utah and Rhode Island are scary places.
- maiku00, on 10/12/2007, -10/+23I suddenly don't feel as scared anymore.
- lordzadar, on 10/12/2007, -12/+25The church of Atheism. It's brilliant. Where everyone believes that the probability of God existing is extremely low.
- blackjack75, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Wars are only started because of resources. The rest is just pretexts. You either want someone elses, land, women, oil or power.
- kindrobot, on 10/12/2007, -2/+131.) The sight of Christian missionaries makes your blood boil.
No. Unless they use my money to print/distribute bibles instead of feeding children like the ads say.
2.) You believe the source of all evil is religion
I believe the source of all evil is human. Religion is just the excuse sometimes.
3.) You delight in disdaining "fundies."
No, I delight in watching them fool themselves into destroying our country.
4.) You bristle when anyone mentions God in your presence.
Quite the opposite. I've had thousands of thought-provoking conversations about the idea of Gods and the many beliefs surrounding them.
5.) You troll on message boards for ways to insult Christians.
You mean like you just did with atheists?
I'm an athiest, and I defy your stereotypes, as do most others. Many of the people flaming are doing it because they see idiots spewing nonsense and it has nothing to do with their religions, value systems or beliefs. - farrellj, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13I've got no problem with Jesus, it's his fan club I can't stand!
- Falldog, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17"There's weak Atheism that believes it is a possibility but a low one."
Which is pretty much Agnosticism. The last one isn't Atheism either. - slumbuzzle, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Hail Xenu! That's because Scientology isn't a religuon, it's the unholy union of a pyramid scheme and a cult. :)
- sonicdevo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13I am a Christian (as in a follower of Christ), I grew up in the Baptist denomination... but now that I'm 23, and have been educated, read a lot, and thought about the issues themselves in depth, I see how unimportant most differences between the different Christian sects actually are.
In my estimation, the formation of each of these sects was caused by people letting disagreements about relatively trivial tangental issues (as compared to the Message of Christ) become overly important to them, and divide them from their fellow Christian. Everything else should pale in comparison (for a Christian) to helping people come to know Christ, and seeking to emulate Christ in your life.
TBH, I think that you'll see many of these denominations melt into each other in the near future, as my generation seems to care less about these trivial disagreements. - zerblat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11There are plenty of atheists with irrational beliefs. Being atheist only means that you don't believe in god. Nothing more, nothing less.
- slumbuzzle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10I was just noticing that myself. I think we don't notice because the fundies are yelling so loud that nothing else can be heard. Time to get a good pair of noise-canceling headphones.
- ExCornelius, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11"That's because Scientology isn't a religuon, it's the unholy union of a pyramid scheme and a cult."
I thought that was the *definition* of a religion. - khalidur2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9same here, however i think that a lot of people just *say* they are catholics, because their parents bought them up that way however if your average red neck took the time to sit down and actually think for themselves a lot will find their beliefs do not align with catholic belief IMHO.
- msbeckman, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10what?! scientology is not featured as a religoun?? oh thats a shame....
- PlayWithFire, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10I dislike the fact that atheists and agnostics are always thrown into the same back.
I consider myself and agnostic. I don't flat out say that there's no god. Nor, am i thrilled by the idea that we are all created by a higher power.
It's a decision that i am simply refusing to make because i do not poses enough information about either side. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12""church" of Atheism = oxymoron."
I'm an ordained orthodox atheist minister.
Send me your tithing. - RetroRufio, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10A great deal of the differentiation has to deal with a literal vs. figurative interpretation of said texts. As someone who grew up in a very religious family, I'll save you the trouble of wondering. Just come to grips with the fact that the differences are relatively mind-numbing, cyclical, and speculative. For years men have argued, warred, and been broken over these differences only to end up with thicker skulls.
- jellygraph, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8wow, i didnt realize that the united states was predominantly catholic
- Kokichi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10I hate it when people, like danlovejoy above me, say that atheism is a religion.
Religion: A strong belief in a supernatural power or powers that control human destiny.
Atheists like myself don't believe in a higher being. Some may be "spiritual", but, by definition, atheists don't believe in any kind of higher being. You can say that we *believe* there is no God, but please, do not classify atheism as a religion. It just makes you look incredibly stupid. - Durinthal, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12Actually, nontheism is deeming the presence of a god irrelevant. Agnosticism merely denies the knowledge of a god (and variations thereof; strong = can't know, weak = possibly able to know). I suppose you could technically be agnostic athiest (don't know and deny), agnostic theist (don't know but believe anyway), or agnostic nontheist (the 'don't know, don't care' you're looking for).
- blackjack75, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13I would be delighted to hear from all those christian sects what exactly differentiates them from each other. The fact that there are so many "factions" based on exactly the same book is a good demonstration that those groups are just lobbying groups, at the individual scale.
- bflfab, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12@j10s
You just did the exact same thing that you are ranting against.
You just suggest reading a book and then claim problem solved. Yeah, that is a cogent argument! Atheists have given up or never believed in god but I'm sure a book will sway them back to fully respecting Christians. - shamam, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10He probably would have, if not for the Diebold voting machines.
Edit: Gah I have start refreshing the page before I comment. - Everything, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7i'd like to see a list of this in chart or something- some way where i don't have to click 50 times to see the highs and lows.
(highest level of non-religious i could find was washington state, lowest was alabama)
also, it'd be interesting to see this broken down by country in an international setting. - kindrobot, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Temporarily banned by Clear Channel - Post-9/11.
You know, because it pointed out the real problem. - ExCornelius, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8I believe you don't have a clue. Hey, I just formed my own religion!
- TGMD, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11What about terrorism? You know those guys aren't blowing themselves up because it feels good.
- khalidur2, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8prickwear.com had a t-shirt that said atheism: a non prohpet organisation, it was really cool, unfortunately it is too late for a sunday night for me too dig up a link. i would have bought it but my mum is a muslim and i fear she may start a jihad :)
(j/k for all you digg PC police out there!!!) - RetroRufio, on 10/12/2007, -7/+13But how many of those kings had thousands murdered because their beliefs?
And sure, it's silly to say that religions itself is the source of violence. Religion comes from men, men are the source. -
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