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- codemonkeysteve, on 11/04/2009, -1/+43Public shaming FTW!
- lorenzo101, on 11/05/2009, -0/+28What I want to know is if they agreed to "stand outside," why is that old lady sitting?
- Kinneas12, on 11/05/2009, -1/+20Think about the tax dollars saved and the public service that this does, while shaming these people. It's like the town centre pillary back in the medieval times!
- AntithesisVI, on 11/05/2009, -3/+22Unusual? Yes. Cruel? Not by a LONG shot. The fact that someone could even think to possibly consider this cruel is beyond me as no one is being hurt.
The attitude you have is part of what's ruining America, just like it ruins hockey when people start falling down and flailing about after someone nudges them a little. - lorenzo101, on 11/05/2009, -2/+20Um, no. "a woman and her adult daughter have agreed to stand outside a courthouse holding signs"
"agreed" implies that they had a choice between this and jail, and they opted for public humiliation on their own accord. - DextramPennae, on 11/05/2009, -0/+13This was a good deal for the defendants and a good deal for society. Jail is expensive and it ruins the lives of the jailed. How humane is it to incarcerate people causing them to lose their jobs, separate them from their families, often taking away the main breadwinner of the family forcing them onto public assistance? Not to mention the violence people are subjected to by other prisoners. And then when the criminal is released from jail, they usually end up on the dole too.
I'm all for jailing predators that really need to be removed from society, but for most offenders imprisonment is a tragedy for them, their families and us! - CaptainNoPants, on 11/05/2009, -3/+16I think it's a great idea, those "women" should be forced to feel shame for their crime.
- zdislaw, on 11/05/2009, -0/+11There was no judge involved in this. In exchange for carrying the signs, the prosecutor agreed to ask for probation instead of jail time when they plead guilty.
- Paranor01, on 11/05/2009, -0/+10I agree we need more public shaming.
The rest... not so much. - u3b3rg33k, on 11/05/2009, -1/+10This could be far more useful than putting the burden of feeding them and housing them in jail on the state. perhaps they'll try to avoid wearing the stupid hat in the future.
- diggduggjoe, on 11/05/2009, -1/+8I agree. The problem we have today is there is no shame. You can sit on the public dole for decades, scam a SS disability, pop out welfare babies and feel no amount of shame. It is not your fault you are a SOB.
These types are pulling down our great nation. We need to get back to work and that includes everyone. If we want less poverty we need more productivity and less social parasites. - Zerohcool, on 11/05/2009, -0/+7This wasn't there sentence it was part of a plea deal to avoid jail time.
- diggduggjoe, on 11/05/2009, -0/+6There is a gun to your head when paying taxes. They will punish you hard, if you fail to pay.
This however is not that. There is no gun, it is doing the time that the law allows for property crime or admit to the whole community you are society's scum. If they chose to maintain their "dignity", they could have just done the jail time. I think they got off easy.
There are parasites at all levels of society, it is not just rich folks that can be anti-social pricks.
I got a job once and was complimented on the fact I always said please and thank you. They were amazed with my politeness. That is nearly gone with most people nowadays. Yes, I even hold doors open for people. The feminists always give me a dirty look though.
The point is we must always expect people to work at being good people. We must stop giving everyone a break on their behavior. Steal from a 9-year old? Damn straight there should be shame! - linagee, on 11/05/2009, -1/+7If there are guys that have to stand on street corners having to twirl ad signs for cash, then this is in no way cruel. If the requirement was to hold a sign while some one tortured you, I could see that as cruel.
- Paranor01, on 11/05/2009, -0/+5Public shaming for smaller crimes is a great way of deterring future crimes by said people.
Reason: they're publicly known now, and they will be watched by everyone. if they clean up their act, then they will prove in other's eyes they learned their lesson. - R3publican, on 11/05/2009, -0/+5Frozen oranges FTW!
- DextramPennae, on 11/05/2009, -0/+4In the USA criminal proceedings are public record.
- diggduggjoe, on 11/05/2009, -0/+4Shame is important. That is one of the failings we have today. There is no shame.
Without shame there is no redemption and reconciliation with the community. People screw up, we all do. Shame is a way we express how someone is moving away from the community and that we will push them further away, if they do not repent and change there ways. We must not forget forgiveness, but we must not eliminate shame.
Shame is admitting to the world you are an *****, which is the first step to changing into a better citizen. Shame is peer pressure for the good of the community. - mishabear, on 11/05/2009, -0/+4Or the kid just turned it's back. Doesn't say she disappeared. In any case, they knew it wasn't theirs. If it is IN the store, it doesn't belong to them and they know it.
Personally, I'd make them sit outside WalMart, not the courthouse. More people and maybe even family, friends, and neighbors.
- bigmrpig, on 11/05/2009, -0/+4If it will help average joe users get interesting stories to the front page, I am all for it. This story was a stretch for me though.
- mishabear, on 11/05/2009, -0/+3Personally, I'd make them sit outside WalMart, not the courthouse. More people and maybe even family, friends, and neighbors.
- NJank, on 11/05/2009, -0/+3Scarlet Letters next!
- PopcornDave, on 11/05/2009, -0/+2How exactly is it cruel? That fat piece of ***** mother is SITTING holding her sign. Is the fact that she wasn't given a Starbucks latte to sip while holding the sign cruel to you?
- Paranor01, on 11/05/2009, -0/+2@bassstud09: you're the type that goes on a long speal about having a gun at your head when you pay taxes of any kind, aren't you.
oh, and how's the fishing fap working out for you? bass stud - shininia, on 11/05/2009, -0/+2^ Frozen by liquid nitrogen I'm assuming.
- jfitz369, on 11/05/2009, -0/+1Nice.
- Azuvector, on 11/05/2009, -1/+2Yeah, the way it's described in the story seems kinda screwed. Like the kid put it down, disappeared somewhere, and they wandered by and picked it up, going "w00t, free giftcard!". Jail for that would be pretty messed up. I'm sure there's probably more intent to the actual case, but that's what the story's description brings to mind for me.
- linagee, on 11/05/2009, -2/+3Why don't we do this for pedobears and such? The judge could arrange a coincidental "free orange day" to everyone in the town. (Softer than rocks, that might be considered cruel and unusual punishment.)
- hammr, on 11/05/2009, -1/+2http://img1.tvloop.com/img/showpics/19/0f/l34da653 ...
- xBloodSplatter, on 11/06/2009, -0/+1ok well maybe not the torture, got out of hand there, but public execution yes, im sure crime rates would drop tremendously
- denizen42, on 11/05/2009, -0/+1Almost all of these 'reality-challenged' subjects, are getting dumbed down by their own moral corruption, making them project and distort casually.
- zantos420, on 11/05/2009, -1/+2people should throw tomatoes at them
- Coling2k2, on 11/05/2009, -0/+1I don't disagree that they stole and that stealing is bad. Just that the suggested alternative of prison is more than slightly extreme.
- Paranor01, on 11/06/2009, -0/+1Yeah, I actually got laughed at once after saying "here's your order ma'am"
/* facepalm - DaviDTC, on 11/05/2009, -1/+1That's fine, just questioning how it works and how it is supposed to work. Right now it seems like it doesn't work how they want it to.
- Coling2k2, on 11/05/2009, -3/+2Wait, they stole a birthday card off a rack at walmart when some kid put it down and were gonna go prison?
- Chibeli, on 11/05/2009, -3/+2Does the judge watch Curb Your Enthusiasm?
- xBloodSplatter, on 11/05/2009, -12/+9Perfect just like in the good ol days public execution, shaming, or like slicing off of a ear or hand for a crime. we need more of it.
- tgc1, on 11/05/2009, -8/+3If they knew their rights they'd have cited the constitution against cruel and/or unusual punishments.
Not that I don't agree though. If they don't mind the public shaming then yeah, screw 'em. - Zoshx, on 11/05/2009, -9/+4Now do the same thing for men who steal.
- bassstud09, on 11/05/2009, -9/+2um, no.
"agreed" in this context implies that they were forced into an ultimatum- one that is not level on any stretch.
If I put a gun to your head and told you to do something, you would no longer be doing it "on your own accord". - bassstud09, on 11/05/2009, -13/+3the problem is that public humiliation is a form a cruelty- this is why criminal records are held private, why the stockades were outlawed, and why there is much debate on the sex offender registry and it's constitutionality.
So, I disagree- they should have gone to jail, because this will not offer a deterrent to future crime by anyone else, it certainly wont keep them from doing more crimes (jail doesn't even do that), and it pushes the boundaries hard on what is constitutional. - DaviDTC, on 11/05/2009, -12/+2http://blog.digg.com/?p=1106
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This story had 4 diggs and 1 comment in 14 hours before it made it to trending test thingy. Uh Digg, I think it is broken already. - bassstud09, on 11/05/2009, -10/+0the guys twirling signs chose to do that- they weren't given an ultimatum between that an jail time.
- kinerry, on 11/05/2009, -23/+5cruel and unusual punishment...these bitches should sue his ass off
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