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- XopherMV, on 10/10/2007, -5/+86I'm sorry, but the tip jar at Subway Sandwiches is just too much. WTF am I tipping them for? For making a damn sandwich? That's what their salary is for. When I worked at Burger King as a teenager, I didn't expect a tip. But, I did expect a tip when I was a waiter in college. That's because I actually waited on people, doing everything they asked for the entire time they were there. They didn't have to get up for anything. They didn't have to wait in line. The Subway guy didn't come to my table, take my order, fetch my sandwich, and pour me a drink. That Subway guy certainly does NOT deserve a tip. The same goes for those Starbucks guys.
- nsummy, on 10/10/2007, -3/+76I was expecting an article more in the consumer's favor, but I guess not. I personally feel its kind of outrageous to tip someone for doing their job. A waiter takes my order, gets my food, refills my drinks, and is nice. I will tip him/her, since it is a service they are providing. At Starbucks though, I have to go up to the counter, wait in line, and pay directly. How is an employee at starbucks any different than a cashier at wal-mart or a bookstore employee that helps you find a book? Its not. Good karma or not, I'm not going to tip my change every time, because believe it or not, that does add up
- FreakyD, on 10/10/2007, -26/+93That's their ***** job. Don't like the pay? get a better job. I tip in restaurants that I'm SERVED in, but not to some lame ass punk with pink or purple hair and 12 nose rings to press a button on a ***** thermos.
- badassninja, on 10/10/2007, -15/+56I really Hate tipping all together. I mean don't get me wrong, I do it. But if the meal is $10 then the meal is $10. If you can't pay your waiter proper wages then then make the meal $12. Don't worry, if your waiters are too slow then I'll go some where else.
- billybibbit, on 10/10/2007, -1/+32having worked at such a chain restaurant for a length of time, let me just say that no one who works there expects a tip, and it is always greatly appreciated when people do decide to throw something in, especially if the people working deserve it.
the best tips we made were always from people who were in line directly behind a "difficult" customer - Akaji, on 10/10/2007, -10/+39*twitch*... must resist temptation... to kill people who say "fracking"...
- Kurisuku, on 10/10/2007, -4/+25I agree.
In countries like Japan it is not normal or usual to tip the waiters. This is because their employers pay them properly. In my opinion having to rely on the customer to tip the employee is capitalism gone overboard. I don't eat out for this reason. Not because I don't want to tip, but because I think it's disgusting that some waiter has to PRAY that the customer is kind enough to tip them after they bust their ass. Because, of course, minimum wage doesn't count when you're a waiter. You receive about 2.50 an hour plus tip. You wage is dependant on tip.
Trust me, unless you're sporting breasts and vagina, you DO NOT get tipped well. It's a very regular practice from where I'm from for guys to ditch the restaurant without tipping if their waiter if a guy. They'll only tip gal's. - vawksel, on 10/10/2007, -3/+22That's *****! I went to Australia on my honeymoon just a few years ago and its custom to never tip anyone, ever. You don't tip waiters, you don't even tip a taxi driver.
You know what?, it was the mother ***** best service and nicest people I have ever met bar none. I left a tip on a table at a restaurant, and the waitress chased me down because "I accidentally left money on the table". My taxi cab was $10.20, I got the ten out, then reached in my pocket for some change, and what did I hear? "Don't worry about it mate, we'll call it ten even".
So yeah, your argument is *****. I think if their wages were fixed and we didn't tip we might get better service since there won't be this insincere pressure to put on a fake smile.
Who knows, maybe its just us cranky ass Americans, those Australians though have something figured out. - XopherMV, on 10/10/2007, -5/+23Sorry, that's just like at Burger King when you order a Whopper with light mayo, no onions, extra pickle.
Those guys at Starbucks don't deserve special compensation. They didn't find me a seat, take my order, deliver my drink, bring my money to the cashier, and then clean up after me. No, I did all that crap myself. - dtwSickboy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+17I currently live in Korea and I've lived in Japan. No tipping, great service. Korea for the most part is definitely decent. Japan's service industry is a model for everyone.
- Frippledip, on 10/10/2007, -0/+17The real question is, would Mr. Pink agree with the author?
- joshuaer, on 10/10/2007, -8/+23you do not have a job and you are having food delivered and going out to eat?
- Jaymo89, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15Just a quick reminder for American tourists on this subject; if it isn't customary to tip in countries you visit, please don't tip.
Some countries have wage laws that make sure employees are looked after by their employers; all it does is create a trend where tips are expected.
Tips should only be used when service is exceptional in many countries. - thecosmicpope, on 10/10/2007, -6/+20Whilst I think the description of the person is overboard, I agree with the general statement here.
- Ramble, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14Strange that Starbucks does have a tip jar but Subway doesn't. Last time I checked, the folks that make my snadwich do an awful lot more than some pussy adding extra froth to a cup.
- Double0Doug, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12Salomejones, you sound like the very same egotistical, narcissistic customers you rant about. From your single statement, it really seems like you have some deep personal issues that need to be addressed.
So what that you are now a successful IT business owner? Why can’t you do a job and put up with the normal ***** that comes with it just like everyone else?
I certainly hope you tip your car mechanic. - r2pro, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13Well for starters, bartenders are paid a buck seventy five an hour. They are depending on tips. Baristas make an hourly wage and in Starbucks' case they get medical benefits too. All of those benefits go into the cost of your cup of coffee. I've been going to starbucks twice a day for years now, and I have never, and will never put a single cent into the tip jar. If they were to cut the price of coffee down by a buck or two, and slash their "partners" benefits and wages then I will gladly tip for each pour.
- XopherMV, on 10/10/2007, -5/+16You tip a bartender to get their attention in the future. Otherwise, you're just another face in the crowd that they ignore while serving all the heavy tippers and good looking women. That's not how it works in Starbucks where everyone lines up in single file.
Or, you tip a bartender to put a little extra alcohol in your drink. I've never gotten extra for my tips at Starbucks.
Either way, those Starbucks guys are not comparable to a bartender. They certainly don't warrant the tip money. - BigJ4236, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11http://duggmirror.com/offbeat_news/Dear_Waiter_how_do_you_feel_about_chain_eateries_using_tip_jars
- simplenation, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12they have a tip jar at my local subway. but what is even worse is the dash for a tip on the credit card receipt (merchant copy). i ***** hate it because i feel like an ***** when i cross it out or put a ZERO while the cashier stares at it. seriously, i dread going into that subway because the workers don't have any etiquette and just stand there stare to see how much i will tip them. ***** them
- k3vinmartian, on 10/10/2007, -4/+15And I'm sure, being the pussy you are, you didn't report him. You probably giggled along with him. Disgusting little bitch.
GO WASH YOUR HANDS!! - Tenlow, on 10/10/2007, -2/+13I don't tip for standard service. If they remember my regular order, I tip.
- ChromaVita, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10Haha, he's been double tipping waiters for years! He leaves the money on the table, and writes it on a credit card receipt. Nice.
- Whaines, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11I'm doubting your citizenship after that attempt at English.
- newscorp, on 10/10/2007, -4/+14Aren't Starbucks paying their employees properly?
The company - any self-respecting company, should ban the practice of tip jars as this implies that the company is too tight to pay their employees, yet charge us a PREMIUM for coffee - Whaines, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12The delivery charge does come back to the driver. It's called your paycheck.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9The price of the product has nothing to do with what you as a consumer choose to do with YOUR change. The reason some people can afford a $5.00 coffee is because they don't go about giving money to every outstretched hand that feel entitled.
- Matsky, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9That's how it works in Australia, and I'm glad tipping hasn't really taken off here. That said though, tip jars have started to make an appearence at pubs and some restaurents. I think the jar is a much better idea as you don't have to give money to a particular person, face to face, I think that's generally something that would make most Australians feel uncomfortable doing (perhaps on both sides) as it's not the 'norm'. However, I believe the tip jar should solely be thought of as a bonus for good service, not as a necessary expense as the article argues.
I do know that the tip jar can have problems though in fairness as I know a barmaid who, through good service, pulls most of the tips but is forced to put it in the tip jar and it's split equally at the end of the night, so the lazy and rude barmaids get just as much as the nice ones. But that's just another reason why I disagree with tips in general, it's just too messy. Note that I never give tips (unless I really just don't want any more change busting my wallet, then they luck out on a few cents haha). - nikon1123, on 10/10/2007, -3/+12Am I the only one who takes issue with the Starbucks button-pusher being called a barista?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barista - AriaStar, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9That ten he saw in the tip jar was probably put there by management. When I worked at a Starbucks for a summer, a five or ten was always left in to "suggest" a larger tip.
Personally I am not a fan of those tip jars. I feel like I have to leave a tip or will be considered cheap, even if it's just a damned cup of coffee poured by someone I KNOW makes over minimum wage. At restaurants, however, I know that the lower-than-minimum that the servers are paid are reflected in a slightly lower cost for the food. If they were paid minimum at the least, then the cost would go up, so it balances out. At places like Starbucks? The cost of the drinks won't change if we all tip more or less because we're already charged for thir salaries. - vawksel, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9They'd all get paid more if we all stopped tipping, because they would all have to quit, then the restaurants wouldn't have anyone working for them, so they'd have to raise wages to hire people...
Get it? - arcooke, on 10/10/2007, -4/+12I don't recall ever seeing a tip jar at a Subway.. good point though.
- SillyRabbits, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7If you're working in a position that can't support the lifestyle you'd like, maybe it's time for a career change. I don't understand people that think every entry level position should be able to support a family of 4 in luxury. It's entry level and non-skilled for a reason!
- 80hd, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8McDonalds no longer owns any part of chipotle since 2006....
- Math, on 10/10/2007, -1/+81) If there is a tip jar, and all the staff are spitting the money, there is a little incentive to give good service, because the server doesn't directly get the tip.
2) I haven't noticed better service in the US, compared to other countries without this semi-mandatory tipping.
3) How about just paying a decent wage so that the customer doesn't have to muck about with tips. God, imagine how annoying it would be if you had to leave a tip every time you bought something from every shop. - MagicCake, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Putting a tip jar out in places where the people don't deserve it isn't rocket science. It's usually just something the kids working there do because... well, everyone else does.
When I was 16 I worked in a small take-out place for a short while. One day I grabbed a clear plastic cup, wrote 'Tips' on it, and put it out on the counter. Sure enough, people started putting change in it. I just did it for the hell of it. It wasn't very much and I didn't really care about the money in there. On the customer side of things, I saw a lot of people drop coins in there because they just didn't feel like putting it in their pocket, wallet, purse, etc. It was just more convenient to drop the change in the cup and walk away. When I stopped working there, the young lady that took over my job grabbed a new cup and drew all over it and that was the new tip cup. She probably didn't even think twice about it.
So don't read too much into it. I doubt anyone holds it against you if you completely ignore the jar/cup in the chain establishments. The employees likely don't expect anything of you. - gopher043, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Cause finding a job that pays minimum wage is so hard to find.
/sarcasm - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9"If you're ordering pizza, you can afford a good tip."
Really? So now you're my pizza delivery guy AND my financial adviser?
If you can afford a car to deliver my pizza then YOU don't need a tip from me. See how that works? It goes both ways.
How about: You do an above-average job (like not bringing me a pie that is all slid off to the side of the box) and I'll give you a FAIR tip (which is on the order of a couple of bucks). - XopherMV, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6That's not true in all states. A good number of states have a minimum wage over the federal level. And a good number of states don't split the minimum wage for tipped positions. Here in Washington state, waiters make the minimum wage of $7.93 per hour plus tips. Our minimum wage is indexed to the inflation rate, so it also automatically increases every year.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7Why are you buying five dollar cups of coffee if you're worried about your change?
- wachter1, on 10/10/2007, -5/+10I hate tipping. I would rather pay more for the meal and have the service included. It is an insult to the customer to have to pay extra for service. It is illogical that tips are percentage-dependent (waiters do not work any harder in an expensive restaurant). And it is an injustice that people in the restaurant industry get away with not paying taxes like the rest if us. It is not an issue of generosity -- I do not mind paying more money, and I don't mind that the money goes for the service -- but I do mind that it is an unstated expectation.
- joshuaer, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Jimmy Johns ( sub shop ) which we have in minneapolis used to have a tip jar but they removed them after to many people emailed and said it bothered them. i can see why they would want a tip jar since they are not paid well but i it for service not for a person doing the job they are paid to do.
the bartenders at the place i go all the time are tipped well for getting me fast friendly drinks. Subway and jimmy johns get nothing, why when was the last time you saw a tip jar at a deli when picking up your potato salad. - Kurisuku, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5That's not a myth, trust me. I myself have come home with no more than $3/hr after a 10 hour shift.
- demonicume, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6they arent expecting 15%. if every customer tosses in their loose change, this money is divided up amongst the workers. Management gets none of it. My gal's been with Starbucks for 7 years and we loved the tips before she made management. sometimes it came out to almost an extra 2 dollars an hour. that made it an $11/Hour job with benefits that the company didnt have to take out of your coffee cup. Starbucks could easily recoup this money by simply raising its prices and not giving the workers zilch. but thats why customer service sucks these days. no one wants to pay for real service. some people ENJOY food service. it'd be nice if every job in the country provided a way for you to live. imagine a McDonald's with higher hiring standards and happier workers. how awesome would it be to get a decent sandwich from people who enjoy their jobs and aren't worried about whether their kids can go to the dentist or the emergency room? i'm not suggesting socialism, but whats $.65 to a guy who just dropped $65 on mochas for the office? Weekly tips bought our groceries many weeks while we were in school.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5If it's part of your contract/employment terms, then yes you SHOULD expect it.
Same thing with waitstaff. If you can't live off the wage you negotiated, then maybe think twice about the job. - yodaj007, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5No, he's saying they make an hourly wage and have medical benefits. They aren't dependent on tips. He's saying that IF they made a lot less money and were, therefore, dependent on tips, then he would tip. Goldfishey, calm the ***** down.
- Foosinho, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5I used to deliver pizza, and believe it or not it's tough work. At least it was for the closing driver (me) at the place I worked at. I never expected a tip *except* when I went out of my way to convenience the customer. I was grateful when somebody'd throw me a dollar when they didn't have to. I made minimum wage.
I was pissed when I did stuff like break a $100 (which I'm not supposed to do - I'm not even supposed to have that kind of cash on hand in case I get robbed; a real risk) for $6.78 worth of subs and the jackass makes me count out every single penny. Didn't even give me the two measly cents. And since it took ALL of my money to do it, I had to go back to the store and re-bank out of the register. Didn't even get a thanks. And this was another blue-collar guy (usually the more reliable tippers are other people who "work for their money").
I try to remember where I came from, and throw a little money at service workers. They remember who does and doesn't tip, and it can affect future service (good tippers always got speedy delivery - chronic bad tippers sometimes had to wait a little longer. They got it on time, but didn't get the extra service good tippers did.) - tenaciousdino, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5you are one cheap bastard
- crichton101, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5actually, the only reason that is ever actually on there is if you pay with a credit card and want the tip charged to the card. If you leave cash you don't have to write anything down.
- alexforcefive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Maybe you could use tips to encourage proper allignment of isosceles cheese?
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