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- archer104, on 10/10/2007, -1/+61So they found him alone and sweaty with the computer's coverings off...
If you are going to have relations with your computer at least ground yourself and use a rubber. - Error601, on 10/10/2007, -2/+45Sounds like BS. I can't think of anything you could touch in an open case that would give you more than a bit of a shock. The high voltage parts are sealed inside the power supply box.
- robbyjo, on 10/10/2007, -3/+35Let's skip the blogspam: http://www.shanghaidaily.com/sp/article/2007/200707/20070730/article_325330.htm
- TeamWookie, on 10/10/2007, -1/+28Most of the wires in the computer are 12V or less, not enough to shock you. The power cord is 120V and the power supply enclosure has some high voltages in it but there shouldnt be any wires hanging out of the power supply that can shock you. Sounds like BS to me too.
- Lorian, on 10/10/2007, -2/+28What kind of computer has bare wires? They're all wrapped up in plastic.
- manicallday, on 10/10/2007, -0/+22Sounds like a job for Mythbusters.
- piratearggghhh, on 10/10/2007, -5/+20That's a pretty shocking story. *ducks*
- timusca, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13Sweat + Electricity = Bad
All that salt made a great conductor, I'm sure... - Error601, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12Yea but how much current are you going to pull at 12v with the high resistance of your body? And how would it pass through your hard if your leg brushed against it?
- RobMackenzie, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12Alright, I'm tired of people quoting things they saw on mythbusters or something about "volts don't kill, amps do" and the like. While this IS true in its base, most people have no idea what it means.
First, to prove it, your car battery can put out up to 1000 amps. One thousand. Your starter motor needs that kind of current. Now go grab the terminals on the battery, notice that nothing happens. Wet your hands in salty water, still nothing. Have an open cut? well, you might feel it then.
Typically you won't be effected by a voltage under 30-50 volts. This varies with skin thickness, temperature, hydration, and LOTS of other things.
As for the .1 amps can kill you, or .05, or whatever the stat you see that day. This is true if directly applied. Across the heart. And it CAN kill you, not WILL. I've been hit by 120 volt here in Canada more times then I can remember. The pain varied depending on how well I was grounded, and where I got hit. I've felt 220 in Europe, it hurt a bit more. I've gelt 7500 volt, not something i liked. But all these left me alive and well, but some COULD have killed me.
So, like many things in life, nothing is absolute. Lightning leaves some alive, while it is insanely high in both voltage and amperage. Just please, stop saying that low voltages are so scary. Point of interest, a phone line caries enough power when ringing to kill a class full of people, if properly applied. By that i mean i have wires running into the hearts of each person. And even then, a few of those hearts will keep beating, for whatever reason. - lavoie0ca, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11rtfa noooooob.
- skjede, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Apparently his computer was known for its blatant disdain for all living creatures, especially Mittens, who was mysteriously absent
soon after its purchase. - TeamWookie, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Its talking about 6 mA across the heart(6mA across a finger may hurt but it wont kill you). Unless you'r sticking a 12v metal wire inside your body and right ontop of your heart, you shouldn't worry about low voltages killing you.
- habbofresh, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Remember the time we caught Kent naked with a bowl of Jello? "I was hot and I was hungry"
- pagemap, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7I just wanted to add that China uses 220V, which is quite a bit more than our 120V...
- fortress, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7completely AGREED. i even bet the submitter, burento dugg you down. isn't this the site that was copying content from other sites and got banned? i remember seeing a story about that. anyways, this is blogspam burento. here you go, from digg's own faq:
What's your stance on submitted blogs that provide similar content to an originating source?
When submitting content to Digg, please link directly to the originating source of that content. Blog posts are fine, as long as they're not plagiarized (see a definition of plagiarism) AND DON'T JUST SUMMARIZE THE CONTENT. However, if any URL within Digg is consistently flagged as spam by the Digg community, that URL may be blocked from future submissions. The community often buries blogs that are simply set up to repurpose content and collect advertising dollars. This includes embedded videos hosted elsewhere that don't provide a related story. - otakushark, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Assuming the PC was properly grounded, this does sound unlikely. However, if he had the cord plugged into an ungrounded (2-wire) outlet or extension cord, and there was a an internal wiring fault where the hot lead was in contact with the case, then he could have removed the (presumably plastic) outer case and exposed the electrically charged chassis. Far stranger things have happened.
- Lokix, on 10/10/2007, -4/+10High voltage is not the only part of electricity that can kill. 6 milliamps can cause death, and a decent 12V rail will have 18 amps or so.
- Torbar203, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Unless he opened up his PSU also, theres not anything inside the computer that i can think of that will kill you if your leg hits it.
If he opened up his CRT monitor, or his PSU, then yeah, hes a complete idiot, but until theres more information, i call BS. - Error601, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7But you need voltage to get the current so it's kind of inaccurate saying.
- Chakz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5You're right. He must have taken the case off his laptop...
- black296tuuk, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Dugg for sweet Real Genius reference.
And Kent, stop playing with yourself.
It is god! - manicallday, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6Never trust a Hal 3000.
- acarr, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4It was in China, so I wouldn't doubt he had improper wiring
- rnnbob, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4If he was really sweaty would it travel along the top of his skin where the sweat is. honestly i think this is a setup he was murdered.
- rarson, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3It's almost like kids these days are born with no brain cells at all.
See people? Natural selection IS still working for us humans. - f4nt0m4s, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3it was divine intervention...he was struck down for whacking. zeus channeled his rage through the psu.
- tpoc, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Not true, a direct short has no voltage, and all current. Voltage is only required if there is resistance. Ohms Law.
- mookieXL, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/838/computerkitty2nh6.jpg
- Slagged, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3Blog spam, but I dug it for the LOLcats inspired image.
- SloppyJoe, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Whoops.. wasn't supposed to be a reply.. :-) Dig down por favor.
- Smegzor, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Who are the idiots digging down perfectly reasonable comments?
Someone didn't pay the DiggDown Mafia? - aton111, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Format Human:/> complete.
- duggtodeath, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1We can call them "ElectroTruffers".
- stoanhart, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Yeah, good luck getting enough current to kill you at 12v over one of those little cables in a computer.
- OUPablo, on 10/10/2007, -5/+6have you ever stuck a 9V battery on your tongue? or dont you call that a shock. Besides, voltage doesnt kill you, current does.
- Sp0rAdiC, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2I know there was one lan party in high school I went to where one kids power supply or something didn't have a ground, so his whole case was electrified. I don't know how the hell it worked, but if you touched it you got shocked.
- JorgeGT, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1An old 286 shocked me (i touched some contact in the mb) , but the electricity of the library (of my high school) went down and I was not injured at all.
- JoseConsuervo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1That is the dumbest thing i have ever head anyone doing, anywhere.
- Speciou5, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3Clearly the moral of this story is to not sweat.
- scabbers, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2From the Chinese news source:
"According to the report, his sweaty legs came into contact with the computer's wiring, which might have caused a short circuit. The computer's internal voltage is as high as 380 volts, enough to give a deadly shock."
I think they mean 380 watts. It was probably the mains cable (with like... no insulator on some part?) that he touched, and the fact that he'd moved the computer to take the case off was why it was in the way of his leg.
Just a theory. - Sp0rAdiC, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2A file server in 90 degree heat isn't that bad. If you're in a cramped room playing a game, you can easily make it 110+ degrees in the room, the load on the processor and video card can heat a small place up fast.
- Steefin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0See all those little cylindrical shaped thingies in your computer? They are capacitors. There are some right nasty big ones in your power supply capable of releasing a lot of stored high voltage energy in milliseconds. Even still, I say he more likely died of a heat stroke than electrocution through the leg.
- eclectro, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1I bet that much of the electronics in China is not built to US standards. There are some power supplies in lowend cases that are downright dangerous even.
- chandler, on 10/10/2007, -3/+3p.s. He dies...
- pak314, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Dry skin has a resistance of about 500Kohm. If it gets slightly wet it easily drop two or three orders of magnitude so much more current can run through your body.
- SloppyJoe, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Go study Ohms Law childern.
If you're curious about why this guy would have to hump his powersupply to get killed by his compy go read
http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_1/chpt_3/4.html - Error601, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2A direct short has resistance. It's just not much. Even in a theoretical zero resistence circuit, you would not have energy flow without a potential difference. It would be in equilibrium.
- Error601, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1The voltage is the difference in potential. It's like connecting a hose between a bucket on the ground and a bucket 10 feet in the air full of water. If they were at the same level, there would be no potential difference and no flow. If one is higher off the ground, it has more potential (from gravity in this case) so the water will flow to the lower bucket. The amount of water that flows is a function of how large the potential difference is (voltage) and how large the hose is (resistance).
- DorqueRench, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Actually it does because your body won't draw enough amps from 12v to be lethal. The resistance is too high. I=V/R
It's actually power that kills you. -
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