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- reflex768, on 10/10/2007, -1/+88Grotesque. Another PRC policy designed expressly for the purpose of humiliating the Tibetan people, for no sane purpose.
- bomb288, on 10/10/2007, -4/+44maybe you'll all take these two words seriously now: FREE TIBET
- bitcloud, on 10/10/2007, -1/+38I know it's become a cliche but:
FREE TIBET
(they actually WANT to be liberated) - swordedge, on 10/10/2007, -9/+39you mean to tell me that the US isn't the only country that makes completely stupid laws? Cool
- Bhima, on 10/10/2007, -2/+31This is for a very sane purpose: control.
- neuralzen, on 10/10/2007, -2/+22What are they gonna do, lock them up? Then they just sit happily in a cell. Or kill them? In which they reincarnate again? Ha! They are just causing conflict to get the people mad enough to act out against the Chinese, to give reason to go to full lock down on them.
- bitcloud, on 10/10/2007, -1/+19totally... it's also not as bad as what Dr Doom would do.. which makes it all ok!
/sarcasm - LadyAmerica, on 10/10/2007, -11/+29Who died and left the Chinese government to be God? (I don't believe in reincarnation, and am a Christian, not a Buddhist, but this is utterly ridiculous!)
- MasterThief117, on 10/10/2007, -2/+18You're a verb transitive.
- bitcloud, on 10/10/2007, -5/+21Jesus was a buddha...
- iceman0113, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14FTA: "Anyone outside China is banned from taking part in the process of seeking and recognising a living Buddha, effectively excluding the Dalai Lama, who traditionally can play an important role in giving recognition to candidate reincarnates."
Who are they to tell who is a living Buddha and who is not? The government should have no dealings whatsoever in religion. Saying that a living Buddha outside of China is inconceivable and ridiculous when Buddhism came from India and into China, not the other way around. - SiL3ncer, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14Chinese government is clearly crazy.
- Urusai, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14So do the Kurds, but we're about to sell them down the river, too.
- synaesthesia, on 10/10/2007, -3/+15It sounds kind of comical until you consider the fact that the Panchen Lama was abducted by PRC troops as a child and taken to Beijing, never to be seen again. The icing on the cake? His government-sanctioned replacement harping on about the 'religious freedoms enjoyed by Chinas peoples'.
China needs a revolution even more than the US does, which is definitely saying something. - geneticlemon, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12How does the Dalai Lama manage to forgive these people? I'm Buddhist and I'm having a very difficult time controlling my irritation ... But I'd also like to note that not all Chinese believe in this. It's just the Chinese government ... their voice doesn't speak for their population, obviously.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -15/+25this is slightly different than what the Islamo-Fascist Imams would do, which is behead all Buddhas.
- Tzetzes, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11Verb transitive! They don't reincarnate; they are reincarnated.
- nga911, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10what does Islam got to do with this ?
- NickMilne, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11Seeing an atheistic institution banging on the door and telling those within to "stop all that reincarnating in there" inspires a sort of horrified delight.
- Zarokima, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9I'm no expert on this, but don't they reincarnate when they die? In which case China is saying they must have the government's permission to die.
I'm probably missing something here about the reincarnation thing, but the law's ridiculous anyway. - tehbored, on 10/10/2007, -3/+11What *****! Seriously, what the *****. I thought this was some satirical Onion-esque article at first.
- tehbored, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8OK, fine. The "Islamo-Fascists" are worse. That still doesn't excuse this sort of behavior.
- idugcoal, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8You're right, you're no expert, and you are missing something: death and reincarnation are not the same thing. They're related, as pretty much any two seemingly unrelated things can be, if you look hard enough. China's attempt at regulation doesn't try to prevent death, it tries to deter people from something that their government feels threatened by. I'm no fan of religion, but I'm more opposed to trying to strongarm one's beliefs onto others.
- Theoxenmooving, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8I'll take it!
/calls China
Hello, China? I have something you may want.
That's right, all the tea... - Jubalicious, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
- rationalist, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Buried as inaccurate and probably deliberately misleading. China's authoritarian actions are heinous enough without lying about them.
The Chinese did not "outlaw reincarnation" because they do not believe in reincarnation. They Illegally, immorally, unethically) asserted for themselves the right to designate the leadership of the Tibetan people. Given that they deny Tibetan independence and the right of the people to self-determination, this is not that surprising.
But it is not, primarily, an "anti-religious" move as is being spun here in this attack on "atheists". Apply a little common sense - do you think the Chinese would implicitly endorse the concept of reincarnation, which is at the heart of the Tibetan nationalist movement, by claiming for themselves the right to determine who is reincarnated?
This is the Times UK, people, Rupert Murdoch's paper. The second headline in the sidebar is currently "Nazi guard's untold love story", and another absurd article dugg claims that walking to the store consumes more energy than driving.
Don't believe everything you read on teh internets. - rstarr, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Neither do Buddhists.
- giantdouche, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6If the Chinese could actually prevent people from being reincarnated, the Tibetans would be ecstatic. Buddhists believe that reincarnation (samsara) is a prison, an endless cycle of suffering. Most Buddhists dedicate their entire lives to escaping reincarnation & achieving nirvana or, at least, becoming Bodhi Sattvas that aid everyone else in the pursuit of nirvana.
- rlegions, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Thank You! Mr. Obvious!
- Shorties, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Anyone who wants to know more about what China is doing or just wants to know more about the Tibetan people in general should see this movie Tibet: Cry Of The Snow Lion: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6538297962102766026
Digg: http://digg.com/videos/educational/Tibet_Cry_Of_The_Snow_Lion_Full_Movie - Cougaboy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5He's saying that China can't control Buddhism because it didn't start there. Buddhism was in India before it was in China, so the Chinese have no right to try to restrict the religion.
- redbone, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Your irritation is understandable. But as you inferred, this is a maneuver made by people deeply caught in the cycle of greed and lust for power. Crushing the Buddhists or forcing them into submission ensures the governors' desires for power and wealth are granted further. But no government can suppress a person from seeking peace and enlightenment. No human and no institution on the earth will ever be strong enough to prevent someone from practicing a right lifestyle, or from finding peace. That being said, this new law should act only to make the Buddhists more secretive against the Chinese leadership, not to stop the monks and nuns from practicing.
- iamlutheran, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5The Chinese government can go to Hell.
- jedikv, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5It just shows, abosolute hatred for religion is the same as being extremely evangelical about it. Both are blinded by their intolerance and irrational refusal to accept different beliefs. Give them power and expect hell to pay.
- mrsteveman1, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I have more sympathy for peaceful religious people than i do the chinese government, including their entire industrial economy and all products they export.
I'm definitely not a religiously tolerant person most of the time but the chinese are much, much worse. - ChromaVita, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6You forgot the exclamation mark in front of the equals sign...
- LucasKane, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Maybe you'll like them regulating your breathing too
- PurpleDingo, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5You know that house you made in The Sims where you built 2x2 rooms around everyone just to be a dick? In China, they call that Tibet.
- jedikv, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4really? You havent seen many governments then
- m2paper, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5Thats just disgusting
- transfire, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3That has nothing to do with atheism. That's called elitism, and it occurs irregardless of religion. The dark ages, for instance, were the result of Christian elitists. We have the same problem arising in the country today with Corporate elitists.
- transfire, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3This is proof pudding that the U.S. Government could give a ***** about Freedom and Human Rights. The Tibetan people have been kicked around like coke cans since the 70s, and the U.S. hasn't said a word. Nope, we just keep selling out selves out to China in a happy daze. So what really matters to us? Well, we certainly posture about Taiwan. Why's that? Good slave labor, that's why. Yes, the very truth is printed on our God, "In God We Trust".
- ikzeidegek, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3You like to fight intolerance with intolerance, right?
- damage78, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3That poor scared kid has probably been murdered by now.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Remember that belief differs widely among sects in Buddhism. Tibetan buddhists seek out the reincarnations of certain spiritual/political leaders after they die. The idea is that enlightened beings can choose their next birth and continue their work in that way. The biggest example of this is with the Dalai Lama, the leader of Tibet before the Chinese came along. Once he dies, his reincarnation would traditionally be sought out to replace him.
What China are doing here has little to do with religion, but rather exploiting the Tibetan's beliefs so that they can't choose their own spiritual and political leaders. Worse, China can (and already has) claim the authority to name reincarnations of certain figures themselves, thus giving them an even tighter control over the people. - bitcloud, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4you are clever... always speak out because you seem to understand how this ***** works..
- diggdong, on 10/10/2007, -5/+8***** communism and ***** religious theocracy. das boot!
- bernie_a, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Most people dont realize that Christians believe in Reincarnation, didnt Jesus come back?
Also, Buddhist believe in Rebirth, not Reincarnation. - SunnyDuck, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2this has got to be the stupidest thing a government has ever done
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