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Brothers ages 3 and 4 die in wasp attack.

edition.cnn.com — Adults who saw them being chased by the swarm locked them out of a room to prevent getting stung themselves, news reports said Monday.

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  • paryl, on 10/12/2007, -6/+80I hope each and every one of those adults feels stabs in their heart from this.... for the rest of their lives. As far as I'm concerned, it's as bad as murder. How absolutely horrible that they would lock these boys out. I was attacked by 3 bumble bees when I was 7, and I was hospitalized. (horrible allergy) Fortunately, I had parents that actually CARED.

    Ugh, it makes me sick to think about it.
    • Sell, on 10/12/2007, -115/+22What do you propose they did for the boys? Ask the wasps to leave them alone? Don't be so sentimental, it is blinding. They would have only endangered themselves in the process and would not have been able to stop the wasps anyway. I am guessing these aren't your garden variety wasps either.
    • tonicboy, on 10/12/2007, -11/+99@Sell -

      Wow, way to be callous AND wrong at the same time. Adults have much greater resistance to wasp stings than little toddlers. The adults should have let the kids in and shut out as many of the wasps as possible. The adults would have absorbed many stings themselves and possibly have saved those kids lives. And yes, they would have "endangered themselves" in the process. But you know what? That is their entire purpose on this world. Every instinct in our bodies, every strand of DNA is programmed for us to survive and have children and to PROTECT THESE CHILDREN. Any adult who fails that duty is a waste of a life. Next time, try to be more sentimental instead of blind.
    • mlwarrior, on 10/12/2007, -20/+48@ sell

      You are so ***** dumb.
    • jotux, on 10/12/2007, -47/+9Funny that you would call someone a murderer based on a single article. Yeah this could be a tragic story if true, but before I would go pointing fingers and calling names I'd at least try to check the information from another source....
    • mlwarrior, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17yeah, who'd trust CNN...
      anyway
      that was pretty much the brainless search i did right away
      What are you even trying to say jotux?
      http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/10/16/asia/AS_GEN_Malaysia_Wasp_Attack.php
      http://newsbreak.com.au/search.ac?relkey=a706935
    • jotux, on 10/12/2007, -22/+5@mlwarrior

      The same text copied from one site to another does nothing to corroborate the original story.

      What I'm saying is don't base your opinion on a single media source. It's like someone watching fox and basing all their political opinions off of it. A story from one source could be completely different from another source. So don't go calling people murderers until you have good reason and facts to base your opinion on.
    • fiver22, on 10/12/2007, -4/+21"And yes, they would have 'endangered themselves' in the process. But you know what? That is their entire purpose on this world."
      -Quote by "tonicboy"

      Well said, tonicboy.
    • duniyadnd, on 10/12/2007, -16/+8Working at a plantation probably means they weren't necessarily educated adults. It's easy to say we hope the adults suffer for this, but if they don't know any better of how to react against wasps - whether it may be for superstitious reasons or just a phobia, does not necessarily give us the right to make us say that they should suffer in the end. It's unfortunate that the children died and I'm sure the adults already feel the pain for this considering they saw the children first hand.
    • dinktop, on 10/12/2007, -24/+0tonicboy:

      Our purpose for what? We all end up dead in the end, might as well try to go through our time here pain-free.
    • mlwarrior, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12@ jotux
      So let me get this straight. You're saying "don't post before checking something out". Yet, you yourself never even looked at the fact that there ARE several other pages that are willing to support the The Associated Press's staement (the copy and paste was intentional). If anyone should have looked before posting, it should have been YOU.
      You made a statement and used this as an example, but the example disproves what you said. People don't usually do that.
    • JudgeDredd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17I read about this and thought the adults complete *****-holes. I would without a doubt in my mind give my life for my children. This is very sad.
    • Modulo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4@duniyadnd: exactly what school do you go to to be educated in the fine art of "being a better parent than the average sewer rat".
    • duniyadnd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1@Modulo: No where in the article did they mention there were parents.. with the nature of the story, I'm sure they would have mentioned that they were around..
    • andreo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I can't believe some of the comments in this thread. I can't even do a "@" for one particular person.

      How can someone, unless completely retarded (which even then they may try to help out), watch as some kids get stung repeatedly by a group of angry wasps! And from the story it sounds like nobody even went as far as to try to throw some water or something on the kids to get the wasps to go away or at least distract them.

      It is selfish crap like this that is the root of the problems that we have in the world today.

      And while I detest stinging insects and have done everything possible in my life since being stung in my early teens to avoid being stung again, I would still have to let someone in that was being chased by a swarm of wasp (or bees, or hornets). Even though I would know that some would get in that would have to be dealt with.

      I wouldn't be able to look at myself in the mirror knowing that I locked someone out of a place where they could have escaped a worst attack if they survived. If they died because of a result of me trying to save myself from a couple of stings I wouldn't be able to live with myself.

      This is absolutely sick and disgusting. And I don't think that "this is what we've become". I instead think that we as humans haven't yet moved on to thinking about anyone else on the planet other then ourselves.
    • flashboy131, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1so many horrible stories lately, about evil and twisted people. digg is great but I guess it allows me to see too much about the world. what was it that marilyn manson was quoted as saying.... "there isn't more evil in the world, we hear about it more because it's televised."

      I'm not saying stop with depressing stories... just sad to hear about all this... evil. almost numbing.
  • cmdrwhitewolf, on 10/12/2007, -3/+24It's truly scary to see how some people only think of themselves. That's really tragic...
  • cafzal, on 10/12/2007, -4/+24I myself have a wasp and hornet allergy. Assuming the report is correct, those adults in this story are just sick.

    It is possibly negligence and reckless indifference, if there is a strong enough prosecutor and the evidence etc. is okay. Call in Jack McCoy!

    • KillaGoat, on 10/12/2007, -11/+2This is in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. I seriously doubt they have the same laws as the US does for protection of the innocent and the like.

      Most likely they'll see it as a natural event..
    • Wartyboskfapped, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15I can assure you, KillaGoat, Malaysia has exactly the same kinds of laws we do concerning this *****. I have been there; it is a westernised, modern nation. It is not *****, Central Nowheria, with people living in tin shacks, you ill-educated buffoon. KL in particular is as modern a city as anything you might want. Education there is in fact probably better than most states in the US. Though that isn't hard to achieve.
  • bigpeeler, on 10/12/2007, -11/+29Why would a bunch of white protestants attack a couple of young boys? This world is sick, sick, sick.
  • xelloss, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8I got bit by one of those mother ***** on the Pinkie, and boy do those things hurt.

    Also its a shame that they didn't unlock the door, they could of unlocked it then themeselves ran into another room so they wouldn't of got stuck and maybe the boys would of only gotten bit a few times. very sad.
    • knightblade2oo4, on 10/12/2007, -13/+6here's some 1st grade biology for you; bees sting...
    • Wootery, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9here's some 1st grade biology for you; bees are not wasps.
    • knightblade2oo4, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3wasps dont bite either.
  • Qtip42, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I'm a bit confused here. I've knocked over a few nests in my time and never got "chased".....I'm trying to imagine if these adults saw a large cloud of bees behind them or ???......
    • Graphixaddict, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4when i was younger, i was on a porch and must have been jumping around enough to disturb a wasps nest, they came out and swarmed around me, i got stung a few times, it sucked...i dont really know if they chased me though. Dont they chase Thomas in "My Girl"? Thats gotta be absolute proof that wasps chase people.... ;-)
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    • somnus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I stepped on a wasp nest in the ground when I was little and they chased me all the way home (probably about 50 feet, across a tiny stream of water, through my backyard, and one still got into the house). ***** traumatic, though I'm sure hilarious to watch. I think I remember my mom worried, but chuckling all the same.
    • rogerbannister, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13@Qtip42

      Yeah, but I bet you never kicked over a MALAYSIAN wasp nest !! Those mofos are like six feet long and have laser beams for eyes!! They flash gang signs and are all tatted up from being in prison!!

      They'll fly off with you and punk your ass in midair with their stingers.
    • canti32, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I was helping my dad get rid of a tree once, and he accidentaly stepped on a yellow jacket nest. He and I sprinted the 80 or 90 yards home, and they still followed us enough to sting him a good 30 times. For the next three hours they swarmed all around our driveway, no one could get outside. They eventually settled and went away, and I haven't seen any jackets since.

      /I got stung three times
  • Atashi, on 10/12/2007, -13/+7I'd blame the adults for not helping the kids but not hate them at all, unless it was their pre-emptive intent to leave the kids alone. If the situation was reversed and the adults died, would it be less heart-breaking? At any rate, preservation of self is greater than preservation of others most of times, especially when one has no connection with the other person.
    • dinktop, on 10/12/2007, -10/+1You are absolutely right, I cannot believe so many of you people are against this train of thought. Just because they were children doesn't mean a goddamn thing. If there were two adults trapped outside this wouldn't even be news. And even if they did help--possibly giving their lives--they wouldn't even be around to see these kids grow up to become even more useless pieces of flesh who wouldn't even be grateful for their meaningless life.
    • StarManta, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7" If the situation was reversed and the adults died, would it be less heart-breaking?"

      It would suck hard, but the sole purpose of a human adult is to make sure its offspring survive. The reverse is hardly true; if I was being attacked and a child would have to put his/her life in peril to save me, I would wave the kid on and lock the damned door from the outside.

      Plus, the adults' bodies, being much larger than childrens', could have taken MUCH more venom without dying and possibly drawn the swarm away.
    • Valleye, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Two adults dieing from wasp stings because the children locked them out after seeing they were chased by a swarm WOULD be news.

      The fact that they were children just is gravy to the story. The heart string tug, if you will.

      I am horrified that adults could do this. I could never!

    • CountBrass, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1What complete rubbish StarManta. Adults can always make more children. Children without adults are screwed.

      That's not to condone what these adults failed to do but the ludicrous statement that adults sole purpose is to protect children is utter utter bollocks.
  • gharding, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10Did this remind anyone else of Macaulay Culkin?
  • danielgary, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1Never mind...
  • steeel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10I have been stung countless times and I am not really scared of wasp stings. I tell you, if I saw two little doods being killed by many bees, I would try to help them somehow.

    I have noticed that there are people that are horrified of bees and wasps, so panic must have been an issue in this case (if cnn is correct).

    When a person panics, they can accomplish nothing.
    • somnus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I've been stung enough to be completely freaked out by *one* wasp. Jump up and run out of the room kinda freaked out. It's not from fear of death, more out of just not wanting to have a sore spot somewhere. I strongly believe that I would be able to put mind over matter to help someone being attacked by bees. They are not deadly to most people, and I certainly would not be callous enough to lock someone out from where I was and watch them suffer. What was their plan: wait until it's over? If you lock someone in with a wild animal/insects that could be deadly to them, you know damn well what the consequences will be.
    • steeel, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5It is called fight or flight. In this case they chose flight.

  • Dolomite, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19haha, sounds like something George Costanza would do.
    • somnus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11I was about to digg you down, but you're absolutely right.
  • rocko213, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6My word!

    I hope somebody stabs them in the eye.
  • noeljohnhoward, on 10/12/2007, -10/+1damn those White Anglo_Saxon Protestants
  • rogerbannister, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Holy crap! What those adults did was so wrong on so many levels! They violated basically every single code of ethics ever written.
    • vhold, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3Perhaps the codes of ethics in Malaysia aren't quite the same as the ones you are familar with.
    • rogerbannister, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Pretty much all of the popular codes of ethics ever written say something along the lines of: "Put others first.", "Treat others as you would like to be treated." etc.
    • ruprecht, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@vhold
      And here I was thinking I'd make it to the bottom of the comments without reading some racist bonehead mouth off about people in other cultures not caring about children. Grats.
    • Neploxo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Personally, I think these adults suck ass. HOWEVER, our belief that children come first is just one of several evolutionary survival strategies. Other cultures, indeed other species, choose to protect the adults so they may go on to reproduce, as they represent a larger investment of time and resources, while children, left alone, are less likely to survive. What they did was morally reprehensible, yes, but not impossible to understand. In fact, they may have had many more children of their own to worry about.

      Of course, if these were their own children, we should give them Darwin awards for removing their genes from the pool.
    • vhold, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@ruprecht

      What makes my comment racist whatsoever?

      You are aware that other countries do infact have different cultures right?
  • zaibatsu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16Just open the godamn door. And close it quickly. Damn to all of you that disagree.
  • ichbinladen, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Just how many wasps are we talking about here? If it was enough to form into the shape of a man, they might have been able to open the door, then EVERYONE would be in a world of hurt.
  • iamcool, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I for one have been stung by wasps. Actually a whole nest of them. Yes they do swarm, and yes they do follow. ( around the house, up the stairs ) Let's see, they were on my clothes, in my hair, and even under my clothes. Parents made me a very quick trip to the hospital, and somehow, some managed to hitch a ride. Point is, these things are every bit as agressive as the cartoons make them out to be, minus the shapes and arrows they make. Any resonsible parent would have done what other here said. Open the door, let the kids in, close the door.
  • blowhole, on 10/12/2007, -8/+4I'm sure to get buried for this, but nowhere in the article does it say the plantation workers were the children's parents. Doesn't necessarily excuse what they did, but does help to explain it.

    Now let's get crazy. If I saw a bunch of kids getting stung by a swarm of anything, I'd laugh my ass off. Friggin' just like in the cartoons, man! If I knew they were going to die it would be a different story. Hindsight is always 20/20, so don't be so quick to pass judgement after the fact.
    • genelmx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4If you saw a 3 year old get swarmed by wasps you would laugh you ass off? You sadist. I don't care if they were their parents or not, 3-4 years old...do they look like they are capable of stop-drop-roll? This happened in my city and if the report is right, they need to know that bees can't open doors so why the hell did they lock the doors...
  • rtini, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Let's see, would you rather:

    a) Get stung by several wasps and save the lives of two children, live the rest of your life remembering your heroic decision.
    b) Avoid getting stung by wasps, stand there and watch two children be killed, live with your cowardly decision the rest of your life.
    • jonconley, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It isn't so much as even being heroic. Like was mentioned, you wouldn't be thinking that you were a hero or that the kids life were in danger. But it we look at it in the present tense, you would either;

      A] Attempt to protect the children from any more possible pain and provide protection
      B] Allow the children to be stung and feel immense pain and probable a little traumatized.

      While it doesn't equate to a life or death situation at the current time, even that decision has an obvious choice of what should be done. And yes, while you may not be a "hero" in the traditional sense, you would still be a hero to the small children. It is just too bad that wasn't enough for them.
  • Wootery, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"b) Avoid getting stung by wasps, stand there and watch two children be killed, live with your cowardly decision the rest of your life."

    In jail, I would hope.


    (Oops, this was meant to be in reply to rtini.)
  • needleboy, on 10/12/2007, -7/+3Just another in the line of proof that muslims have no respect to human lives!

    And no, this isn't a political point of view. It's the lack of humanity that pisses me off...
    • skunkman62, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2are you a dumbass or what? muslims? where in the story did you read muslims? they were white anglo saxon protestant that did the killings! RTFA
    • needleboy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4Ahhm... OK. I hope you were kidding, but if not, most of the Malaysian population are muslims. The kids were muslims (you can see by their names, as well), and I assure you the plantation workers are muslims as well.
    • needleboy, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1@skunkman62: Kids like you should be castrated at 10, so you can't possibly have a chance to procreate...
      You actually made me read the article twice again to be sure of what I was saying. Now I am sure.
    • Wootery, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Kids like you should be castrated at 10"

      And racist ***** like you shouldn't?
  • format, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2This is a ***** disgrace.
  • teleporter, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What a horrific story. What is wrong with people in the 21st century? Obviously quite a bit, when one considers the fact that there are more than zero comments on this post that display complete emotional and ethical void.
    • noGoodNamesLeft, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Pretty much the same thing that's been wrong with them since time immemorial; there have always been a proportion of selfish scum within any population, and if you look back to some stuff that's happened in the past, you'll see worse things happening- even on a small scale like this.
  • TheElectricFox, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1another reason why im scared ***** of wasps..... and i dont mean White Anglo-Saxon Protestants
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