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- inactive, on 12/02/2007, -3/+76Teens are stupid. They always have been stupid, and they always will be stupid. Don't try to deny it, we've all been teens, we know from experience that teens are stupid. The sooner we acknowledge this, the sooner we can actually take steps to lower teen pregnancy and STD rates. Brazil gets it, why don't we?
I'm not saying we need to say "Yay, sex is great, everyone go have sex," but the current policy of just pretending it doesn't happen is ridiculous. - Albionshores, on 12/02/2007, -1/+62One of those obvious things that leaves you wondering why the hell hasn't it been done before (do other countries already do this in their state schools?). If teenagers are going to have sex but possibly won't use protection because they won't go into a pharmacy because of the blushes, and aren't old enough to go into a pub/bar to use their machines, why not make it more accessible? Full credit to Catholic Brazil for doing this.
Even if I didn't agree with him I could always understand why the Pope didn't want to endorse condom use but I never understood why he couldn't talk about condoms and AIDS and then put in a disclaimer at the end saying, "but practicing Catholics don't have to worry about such things if...." - roastedbagel, on 12/02/2007, -2/+46The kids are going to do it anyway, may as well acknowledge it and help reduce the spread of disease..
While we're on it, USA needs to hand out condoms as well...to the Faculty with all the dam sex thats happening between teachers and students nowadays..Giggity - begawk, on 12/02/2007, -0/+31"Brazil provides free AIDS drugs to anyone who needs them and has aggressively pushed drug manufacturers to lower prices."
America should be doing the same thing... - Skanadian, on 12/02/2007, -0/+22Adults are stupid too. I'm not defending teens, but, adults are also quite stupid, especially some when raising teens.
- LongShlong, on 12/02/2007, -8/+30Yes, but what's protecting Brazilian kids from couples of women with only one cup?
- FleetAdmiral, on 12/02/2007, -3/+25If schools did this in the US, parents would get bent out of shape thinking that schools are condoning students having sex. Not the stop of a disease which is what it's for. Is it a good idea, damn straight. But because everyone wants to be Politically Correct, they've ***** up the country alot.... in other news, according to CNN, they want to "adjust" Santa so he's not over weight because it sets a poor example to younger children, and Ho Ho Ho is out because others say that it degrades women. Just goes to show you what happens when people have WAY to much time on their hands.
- Sornos, on 12/02/2007, -2/+22I live in Canada and they handed out condoms in highschool. Is this not common practice?
- inactive, on 12/02/2007, -4/+21Don't meme me, bro!
- thespudmall, on 12/02/2007, -0/+16If they had those in vending machines in colleges they would sell like wildfire!
- SpykerSpeed, on 12/02/2007, -3/+18What made his comment funny was the fact 2girls1cup was produced by a guy in Brazil. Maybe if you studied "History of Scat Porn" better you'd know that.
- localzuk, on 12/02/2007, -1/+16So drug abuse is the same as sex? My god you are messed up if you think that. KIDS HAVE SEX AND FEEL EMBARRASSED ABOUT GETTING CONDOMS FROM SHOPS! Giving them out in schools (ie, put them somewhere where you can get them without having to feel embarrassed) is a superb idea.
But yes, local drugs clinics *should* give out clean needles and STD screening should be free also. - thedragon4453, on 12/02/2007, -0/+14Won't happen in the US thanks to over conservative parents that think they can stop their kids from having sex. After all, in nature people shouldn't have sex until they are 30.
- unruled, on 12/02/2007, -0/+13I thought this was pretty much normal in most places :/ at least in the netherlands you do see it sometimes in schools
- lordsteve, on 12/02/2007, -0/+12When was the last time you bought a wildfire?
- theutopian, on 12/02/2007, -1/+13Not in the good 'ol puritanical US of A.
- alvarezg, on 12/02/2007, -0/+10What we have in the US is people obsessed by sexual hangups ruling society. Christianity is a whole other thing.
Once I was taught the the great American contribution to human thought is pragmatism. Where did it go? We persist with the war on drugs, the Cuban embargo, the sexual abstinence campaign, the abortion prohibition idiocy, etc. Clinton was impeachable but Cheney/Bush are not? - johnpaul191, on 12/02/2007, -0/+10i agree it's far from happening in the US. the college i went to had condom machines in the bathrooms, and they were vandalized by some crazy right-wing christian kids. seriously, they were damaged to the point of not working (physically busted up) and scribbled on with markers about how jesus loves you and you should not have pre-marital sex. eventually it seems that the school gave up on replacing them.
totally bizarre considering it was not a religious school, but a good sized urban university. - jftitan, on 12/02/2007, -0/+10BYU huh?
- Ceeman, on 12/02/2007, -1/+10We are driven by hormones to have sex. Spreed our seed. We are dont wake up in the morning saying hey I need some meth right now.
I was raised Christian but still had sex at 14. The hard on every ten minutes kind of made abstinence out of the question.
We were not designed by a god. If we were it was sort of sick joke if he drove us to breed but then made it a sin. - donsnyc, on 12/02/2007, -0/+9But American students don't have sex until marriage. They just do it orally and anally so technically the girls are still virgins.
- drgmdp, on 12/02/2007, -0/+9last month i bought one in southern california. it was pretty big.
- johnpaul191, on 12/02/2007, -1/+10you Canadians and your progressive health care ideas. you have no idea how good you have it!
- pintomp3, on 12/02/2007, -2/+11offering condoms in school's doesn't have anything to do with being politically correct. it's not done because of religious conservatives. the faith based initiatives promote abstinence education instead of safe sex. first, it's a failed policy. second, faith based initiatives are unconstitutional.
- thadiusdean, on 12/02/2007, -0/+9Because you don't suddenly sprout genitals when you marry.
- backgen, on 12/02/2007, -0/+8I think it's a great idea. Instead of trying to deny that teenagers are having sex they've finally decided to aknowledge it and at least help them to protect themselves.
- brentinkc, on 12/02/2007, -1/+8good point
- Ceeman, on 12/02/2007, -0/+7Yea that will stop them. You could make it illegal to have sex before marriage under penitently of death and kids would still have sex.
- D4r7h3v1l, on 12/02/2007, -0/+6My school does do it in the US (Long Island, NY). It works pretty successfully.
- fnaqzna, on 12/02/2007, -0/+6"especially some when raising teens."
If a parent hasn't figured the whole parenthood thing out by the time the child becomes a teen, he/she is in deep *****. - mancat, on 12/02/2007, -0/+6you missed.
- rpgguy1o1, on 12/02/2007, -0/+6I was about to come in here to ask "Why the hell is this news?". I really did not assume that American schools were not doing this already. Canada's been doing this (thankfully) for quite sometime.
- smackhero, on 12/02/2007, -0/+6i agree with pintomp3. this issue has nothing to do with political correctness. it's really just a problem of the conservative bent of American culture. it's the same reason why in California the state government is not allowed to fund or publicly support needle exchange programs despite their proven effectiveness and public benefit--it's not political correctness; it's social/cultural conservatism. generally, america is just too conservative to understand concepts like harm-reduction, thus abstinence is the only approach that many americans, especially the elderly and more "traditional" families, embrace. it doesn't matter that teens will still have sex regardless, and will be more susceptible to the transmission of STDs without protection.
luckily though, there are non-profit organizations out there that take a much more rational approach to these issues. but it's still sad that it's up to these organizations like Planned Parenthood and Clean Needles Now to provide public services that the state ought to be providing. and in fact these organizations often have to fight against the state to provide these services. for instance, there have been many cases where needle exchange programs in California have been targeted by the police, thus discouraging people from using the service.
and i've never heard about the santa being too fat thing, but that's got nothing to do with political correctness either. in its mainstream context, "political correctness" is mostly just a straw man attack by conservatives on progressive social change. and really aside from the extremely rare (and rather bizarre) cases like the recent australian recruitment company's ridiculous advice to its employees not to say "ho ho ho," it is a completely groundless criticism. and even in real incidents the argument holds no traction, as it's usually a single individual's lapse in judgment that is quickly rectified by common sense (Sidney's santas will be allowed to say "Ho Ho Ho" this year, afterall.) and not some cultural epidemic taking over our society. but people who are rude/bigoted love to hold on to these stories (or even make them up) to justify their own lack of good judgment. i mean, i don't think we as a society need to be worrying about being too considerate/sensitive of others' feelings just yet; i wish that were the problem with our society, but it just isn't. - Menchions, on 12/02/2007, -0/+6My school already has them. Go Canada!
- KnightWhoSaysNi, on 12/02/2007, -1/+6Google "2girls1cup" ....but you'll regret it.
- Cine, on 12/02/2007, -0/+5I'm from Norway, and at high schools I've gone to, there have always been bowls of free condoms in the locker rooms and toilets.
So Brazil isn't really the first country to do this. :) - UKsHaDoW, on 12/02/2007, -0/+5When I was young there was people that having sex at 13/14, so this is a good thing. You can't prevent it from happening.
- guy6600crazy, on 12/02/2007, -0/+5Thats a good step. Teens do need to be given all kinds of such support instead of keeping them in darkness. Authorities & Politicians in many developing countries(including my own nation) still frown when they hear about "Sex Education in School"!!!. The teens will do it anyway even if they restrict their access to scientific sexual education. So its always better to provide these kids with these info as soon as they are around 12/13 years of age. Great Step by the Brazilian Authorities.
- kimbokasteniv, on 12/02/2007, -0/+5Well like it or not, at the age of 13 and sometimes earlier, the human body is quite capable of performing it's sexual functions. Meaning, wanting to engage in sex at such ages is really quite rational. Thus making condoms available the most reasonable choice.
And anyway, people have been telling the kids about the awesome things about abstinence for years, and I doubt they are particularly convinced. - rpgguy1o1, on 12/02/2007, -0/+5don't know why you're getting dugg down, you're absolutely right
- Lilitou, on 12/02/2007, -0/+5How 'bout... because it isn't.
- Ellipsys, on 12/02/2007, -1/+6I...cannot tell if this is sarcasm or not? In case its not, I urge you to look at some of the "Third World" countries and their living conditions. Perhaps this view contributes to some of the poverty third world countries face? The USA is not heading towards sterility, and this world as a whole is overpopulated due to... well, some of the things that you've mentioned.
- LeeSoong, on 12/02/2007, -2/+7All your meme's are belong to us.
Make your time... - LongShlong, on 12/02/2007, -3/+7Wow, your on the cusp of pop-culture, aren't you?
- smackhero, on 12/02/2007, -0/+4i wish we had those at UIUC. maybe it was because i was at the engineering dorm (Townsend / ISR), and you don't need a condom to jerk off in your room by yourself.
but in all seriousness, it would have been nice. i mean, we actually had these bible thumpers sitting in the common room preaching abstinence to everyone and talking about the evils of premarital sex at a public school. but then again our campus was pretty conservative--it didn't stop people from having sex, it just caused people to be in denial about it. - linagee, on 12/02/2007, -0/+4If you can tell yourself not to have sex, how does putting a condom dispenser change your mind to "Yes have sex?" These are two seperate issues. If you're against the distribution of a disease prevention mechanism, you need to be quaranteened.
- erkokite, on 12/02/2007, -1/+5Not Brazilians - just teenagers in general.
- gUGa, on 12/02/2007, -0/+4Se você realmente mora por aqui, sinto dizer que está alienado demais. Meio radical, não?
- erkokite, on 12/02/2007, -0/+4Which is exactly why it straight, married couples and people who receive blood transfusions are more likely to get it than lesbians. Cheers.
- inactive, on 12/02/2007, -0/+4You know those right wing christian nut job from US? We got them as well, though they are a fairly tiny group over here.
The vast majority of the population is progressive, despite the whole catholic/evangelic issue.
The guy above must have read the today's opinion poll, that's why he is so pissed (85% of the population support the current administration while just 15% don't). -
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