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- m0d3s7m1k3, on 10/10/2007, -88/+488The way police go about property forfeiture with drugs dealers is on par with the mob.
The war on drugs = The war on citizens. - HyperionZero, on 10/10/2007, -31/+268It should say:
"I busted a college student with an ounce of weed, prosecuted him for felony charges, took away his right to vote, his ability to get government loans and most jobs, and all I got was this lousy SUV." - Beazle, on 10/10/2007, -20/+167They don't even have to prove anything in a court of law. If property has been wrongfully siezed, it is up to the victim to prove his innocence. That's not the way it's suposed to work in a free country.
- akira117, on 10/10/2007, -22/+161The "war" on drugs is such a waste of money.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -12/+133Fine But Why Is Every Word Capitalized?
- reddevil3, on 10/10/2007, -62/+172This is not cool.
If I commit a crime why should the government get my belongings? - rjc5056, on 10/10/2007, -26/+116Uh... I know you're only a cop and all but can a brotha get a grammar check.
- Four20, on 10/10/2007, -3/+80Cops down here put 'This vehicle was donated by your local drug dealer'.
- enigmatics, on 10/10/2007, -29/+92If you rob a bank and buy a car with the money you should be able to keep it?
Anything purchased with ill-gotten gains technically doesn't belong to you. - badken, on 10/10/2007, -11/+70Asset forfeiture laws are the cornerstone of a strong fascist government.
- PiKo85, on 10/10/2007, -20/+78It's not a war on drugs its a war on personal freedom.
- FTLJohnson, on 10/10/2007, -16/+67Oh, I agree with you Bishop256. I think the cops should also take the buildings of business in NY caught with ashtrays (meaning that people smoked there) They should also take take the vehicles of everyone caught with a DUI (DWI in some states) Um... lets see... I think they should take the homes of parents whose children skip school... I think they should take the luggage of passengers who show up at airports with improper items (well they kinda do this one already I guess)
What other property theft can we justify for the police? Let's come up with a bigger list of ways we can give up our liberties so that these awesome good guy cops can keep us safe from those bad guys. GO JUSTICE TEAM GO! - Kelgann, on 10/10/2007, -5/+49Just think of how many millions of cars the government could buy with the money saved by ending marijuana prohibition.
- Xanadude, on 10/10/2007, -11/+44I agree. For example: if only your middle school English teacher hadn't been strung out on heroin, he or she might have taught you the difference between "your" and "you're."
- lotuseater, on 10/10/2007, -10/+42Without using tax dollars? Do you have any idea how much the war on drugs costs us? People should be able to ***** themselves up on drugs all they want, they are their own responsibility, and the government punishing them for it is absurd. A war on drug dealers is futile and harmful, the drug market would be a lot more peaceful if it wasn't in the black market. The war on drugs brings justice and order just like prohibition did.
- gossipninja, on 10/10/2007, -6/+38I am torn by this. I think in many regards it can be used for good but i was watching cops the other day, and they had a drug sting, and were impounding teens and adults vehicles for trying to buy a dime bag and that seems wrong.
So because they wanted to buy a small amount of drugs (which is illegal) they now have no car and have fines and what not to deal with, and cant get to whatever mcjob they might have had. So now without a car, they lose their low income job, and are already low income so they have to turn to harder crime (burglary, armed robbery, drug dealing, etc) or become dependant on the taxpayer, because they cease to have a viable legal means of day to day survival. I have no prob with the cops seizing a big dealers escalade and 10 tvs for slinging Kilos of blow, but to ruin someones life and means of support over a misdermeanor amount of drugs is silly. I think they should have some sort of system whereby they decide, ok that is enough drugs to warrant seizure and it would be $2000 dollars worth of drugs (so either a pound of weed, or however much coke). I would say 1000, but the police do not know street value of drugs and say a pound of weed is worth 4 grand street for ***** mexican brick pack. I do not do drugs, I do not advise others to do drugs, but i do believe in personal responsibility same as we have for alcohol. - b3owulf, on 10/10/2007, -10/+41"The war on drugs = The war on citizens"
- Tsen, on 10/10/2007, -5/+35I have nothing against cracking down on drug dealers. That is, meth, cocaine, heroine and such. Selling weed? I see no reason to ruin somebody's entire life over a non-addicting drug with virtually no side effects. What I have a problem with is when the war on drugs is shifted to targeting the victims. Most heroine addicts don't LIKE the fact that they're addicted. They probably don't WANT to buy drugs. But once they're hooked, they're hooked--there's no need to victimize them again by arresting them and stealing all their property. Offer rehab, and don't jail them. Our prisons could use the break anyways.
- Al3x, on 10/10/2007, -3/+32I've seen these on quite a few cars. I saw a nice trans-am with it on the bumper.
- amdahlj, on 10/10/2007, -11/+39By that logic, suicide bombers have them beat.
- thinman1189, on 10/10/2007, -13/+40America is so ***** up.
- LincolnA, on 10/10/2007, -2/+29Dugg for the correct use of apostrophes
EDIT: Judging by the spacing on the "it's" apostrophe, the "dealer's" one was omitted at first. Sigh... - Renton, on 10/10/2007, -3/+29"Uh... I know you're only a cop and all, but can a brother get a grammar check?"
Done. - DagYo, on 10/10/2007, -3/+29What does this have to do with guts again?
- capiCrimm, on 10/10/2007, -7/+32if I rob a bank, then the government gets to take the banks money?
Just because it doesn't belong to me doesn't mean it belongs to the government either. Second, no one was robbed.
The government takes the money as retribution for the time spent busting the drug dealers. In other words the drug dealers are paying to be hunted and arrested.
It's still a bad policy since it gives everyone involved in the gov. a very strong reason to continue the war(so they don't loose their jobs). - knobtwiddler, on 10/10/2007, -6/+30ha..too bad the CIA ships the coke in. ahh the irony.
- dagnome1984, on 10/10/2007, -3/+27Yeah because the drugs made them do it. More like the war on drugs made them do it being that prices are artificially inflated. Nicotine is the most addictive substance known to man. Where are the countless millions of people stealing things in order to pay for their cigarette habit?
- MasterThief117, on 10/10/2007, -8/+31There is nothing new about this. Police agencies have been using vehicles they confiscate from drug dealers, etc.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -12/+34Bacon Wagon!
- privatelyons, on 10/10/2007, -10/+31And in very fine print you see: "Ignoring the Bill of Rights Since 1791"
- freakgd, on 10/10/2007, -51/+70pigs
- kennymiller, on 10/10/2007, -1/+20Story behind the car & more pics: http://kotv.com/news/local/story/?id=131909
- TH3W1R3D, on 10/10/2007, -17/+35The war on drugs affects more people than just drug dealers! Your sadly mistaken..
- ath1337, on 10/10/2007, -5/+22I don't feel sorry for the drug dealers... I feel sorry for the american citizens who's rights are slowly fading away, I feel sorry for the people who don't realize what's going on in this country, and I feel sorry most of this world :(
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -15/+31"There" lives? As in, "them there lives have done been risked for y'all"?
- aydoubleyou, on 10/10/2007, -7/+23How is this cool?
- HyperionZero, on 10/10/2007, -2/+17Just an analogy, not a direct comparison. There are plenty of people that get busted for minor offenses and can't afford the outrageous cost of getting their car out of impound after spending time in jail waiting for a bench trial. On top of that, the police (depending on your state) have the right to seize any property that aided you in an illegal operation.
- NSResponder, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15Nope, that is indeed how it works. Civil forfeiture is blatantly unconstitutional, but it happens every day.
-jcr - arsheroica, on 10/10/2007, -1/+16Why would somebody fake an apostrophe? Are you serious?
And can somebody explain to me what's grammatically incorrect about it? - NSResponder, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15Google for "civil forfeiture", and brace yourself for disillusionment. He's right.
-jcr - Typhoon2009, on 10/10/2007, -21/+36Here's an idea - don't deal coke, don't lose your car.
- Arkavus, on 10/10/2007, -9/+23Yes a college student with only an ounce of weed has the money to buy an Escalade.
No offense but I highly doubt this was some random pot users Escalade. - mrASSMAN, on 10/10/2007, -5/+19There's nothing wrong with the grammar.. I suppose they could have put a period after "car", but it's formatted like a headline so it's not necessary.
- thelilacgirl, on 10/10/2007, -4/+18Well put. And, why not confiscate the Mercedes of the crooked politicians in Washngton?
- Tippis, on 10/10/2007, -5/+18...and on the sleeves of the bystanders, unfortunately.
- dagnome1984, on 10/10/2007, -3/+16They take these things all the time without a trail. Which at it's very core is not how the American justice system should work. Innocent until proven guilty is a virtue that made this system of governance great. If you have your things stolen by the government you have to prove that they weren't used unlawfully. The government wins by default being that it is impossible to prove a negative. The burden of proof should be on the government not the accused.
- NikoKun, on 10/10/2007, -14/+27Seizure is bull...
I hope someone vandalizes those cars. -_- - roguetrick, on 10/10/2007, -4/+16Yeah, most have.
- dagnome1984, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11There are many conservatives who oppose this meaningless prohibition on drugs. The war on drugs is just another big government 'welfare' program. If you are for the war on drugs you are not being fiscally conservative when it comes to monetary policy.
- toddhenkel, on 10/10/2007, -5/+15Seen that SUV while in Tulsa on the highway... definitely a head turner for everyone driving around it. I doubt it discourages dealers from a lucrative income, but interesting.
As far as personal liberties being violated for the average citizen, most of the dealers are not average, upstanding citizens that mind their own business. Their business involves pushing, smuggling, illegal firearms, etc. And in the south at least, a lot of very dangerous meth operations that risk users and the community. Unlike a pot bust, meth labs require the bomb squad to come in and clean up. -
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