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- fisj139, on 10/10/2007, -2/+78I do not like where we are heading as a country
- UneasyRider, on 10/10/2007, -3/+55All I can say is, *****.
- CanceledCzech, on 10/10/2007, -1/+29I do not like where we are heading as a species.
- Klak, on 10/10/2007, -1/+29why can't law enforcement just admit that they were wrong or at least over reacting instead of charging innocent people with crimes to save face?
- wattznext, on 10/10/2007, -15/+42Well if you goddamn liberals had given Bush the full power of warrentless wire tapping, they government could have been listening to this guy's phone calls, and would have known that it was just lab equipment.
See what your hippie left wing rights protecting ***** has wrought?
OK yeah, TOTALLY kidding. - teknikqa, on 10/10/2007, -1/+22It's genuine, but old. Happened in 2004. Here's a link to the Washington Post story. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A827 ...
(via Wikipeida http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Kurtz) - JGailor, on 10/10/2007, -1/+18"A nation consists of its laws. A nation does not consist of its situation at a given time. If an individual's morals are situational, that individual is without morals. If a nation's laws are situational, that nation has no laws, and soon isn't a nation... Are you really so scared of terrorists that you'd dismantle the structures that made America what it is? If you are, you let the terrorists win. Because that is exactly, specifically, his goal, his only goal: to frighten you into surrendering the rule of law. That's why they call him 'terrorist'. He uses terrifying threats to induce you to degrade your own society."
- ZenMojo, on 10/10/2007, -1/+17Mail fraud. Funny how there's no actual evidence of mail fraud but he's being charged with it anyway. Whatever happened to probable cause?
- pyrophire, on 10/10/2007, -1/+17Did you even read the article, or just the description and assumed it was about science?
From the article:
the charges "concern technicalities" about how Kurtz obtained "$256 worth of harmless bacteria for one of CAE's art projects." - louiedog, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11Leave the guy alone once the situation was straightened out.
- Drahkar, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11This is the kind of thing that goes on now. I was reading the article posted on Digg earlier about how we could have gone to Mars 11 times with manned missions if we spent the cost of this war on it (Based off cost estimates from 5 years ago). So instead of growing as a society and pushing ourselves to new and better levels. We spend all our money to destroy the middle east and throw out BS propaganda to the US population on why it is important.
- teknikqa, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10Check out the webpage they've made for this case.
http://www.caedefensefund.org/ - AbsurdParadox, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10"If you're not a terrorist, you don't have anything to worry about!"
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9I don't want to live in a country where FEAR rules!
- malakite33, on 10/10/2007, -12/+21Another terrifying article, but I'm confused by the title of the post...art?? I think you mean science.
- ptsd, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10everyone responsible for attempting to charge this man with a crime should be fired, prosecuted, and jailed...forever.
- MaddieCakes, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8RTFA
- davmattucci, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8An excellent example of our tax dollars hard at work for us. I really hate where we're heading...
- TWhid, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7RTFA - he's an artist and professor in Buffalo, NY. The 'high tech' lab was part of his research/art work. There were no 'bunch of books in arabic' there was one postcard from an exhibition that had some arabic writing on it.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Who are YOU , that even YOU admitting is supposed to be very important?
- Alchemeron, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7This pattern is not limited to law enforcement. When people lose arguments, are proven wrong, mistaken, or just generally don't like someone, for any reason, they still find a way (or want to find a way) to be against someone. Misremembered that certain date in history? Well it wasn't that important, anyway. Besides, you know more about other areas of history that the other guy doesn't.
The difference between the shortcomings of average men and women is that they are not charged with securing the public interest. There isn't (shouldn't be, at least) room for spite and ego for those in power.
It's a shame that pesky system of "checks and balances" is out to lunch. - anarchytv, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6who's next, Bill Nye?
- louiedog, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Why not? I have a friend who works from home. His company supplies the laptop. He doesn't have to commute and the company doesn't need to supply him with much space in the office. What's the problem? As long as it isn't dangerous why is lab equipment any different?
- thcobbs, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9OK, even I'll admit this one.
That's ***** over the line. - jgzman, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6I do not object to their initial action, because the materials he had were certainly non-standard, and may have been suspicious.
I do object to the reaction to discovering that there was no danger or illegal activity. That kind of thing should not be tolerated. - evolcdc, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6I was there, it happened and is still underway as the trial is not over as they continue to press charges to justify spending millions of dollars on the investigation.
- skanlessflipboy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/163
"In a preview of his next book, Steven Pinker takes on violence. We live in violent times, an era of heightened warfare, genocide and senseless crime. Or so we've come to believe. Pinker charts a history of violence from Biblical times through the present, and says modern society has a little less to feel guilty about." - ChayD, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Ooooh, you so narrowly missed out on a total roasting, there :) I noticed that you were still dugg down, shows how much of the comments people actually read before jumping to conclusions. There must be some auto-digg-bot plugin for firefox that looks for terms like 'liberals' 'hippie' 'left wing' 'administration doing a great job' 'commie' '*****' and buries them.
- louiedog, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4No, that is also excessive. How about a society where things make sense instead?
- Drahkar, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4While it is true that we wouldn't have put the money into the Space Program (No Matter what Bush Promised while Campaigning) There is still a lot of places the money would have been better spent. Hell, we probably could have finished the research and implemented a new hydrogen fuel system with money like that put into it thus completely removing the stranglehold the middle east holds on us. But no. the Oil Industry has the government in their pocket along with all the Mercs in Iraq now who are making a fortune off this war.
- aubbey, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4How is a scientist having lab equipment at home any different than a mechanic fixing cars in his own garage? I suppose musicians shouldn't be able to practice anywhere but in a practice room or concert hall, and artists shouldn't be allowed to draw, sculpt, or spot weld in their own homes.
- jimhake, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5This is ***** insane!! The government can NEVER admit they are wrong!
- AndrewJC, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4So what you're saying is that we need to start simply assuming that everybody is doing something illegal?
- Daveecee, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I actually just watched the Leeson film about this incident, "Strange Culture." I kind of hate our government a lot more now
- zebbie, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3no , next they'll start giving people colored badges to identify them as "gay" or "intelligensia" for later identification.
- ChromaVita, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3You blog like a terrorist.
- schweeet, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3What, you don't believe a story on a site named zenmonkeys? How rude!
- elipabst, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3A child's chemistry set is more dangerous than what this guy was doing. That was the point of why he got the microbes from ATCC, because they were known to be non-pathogenic. He could have cultured much more dangerous things from his mouth, skin, or toilet bowl but he didn't because he *absolutely* wanted to be sure that this wasn't going to be dangerous. The ironic part is that the very fact that he went out of his way to be safe is what he's getting into trouble for.
- thcobbs, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3ask around a bit... I've apparently got a name for defending police actions that most on digg consider questionable, especially Tasers.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Hey MadScientist, looks like you have a lab at your house too... or a small garden? 420?
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WTF? - Spooky51, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Wooooo western NY represent!! GO SABRES!!
I remember when this happened. It's ***** insane that they're still prosecuting this guy for this. They need to admit this was a false alarm and move on. - Protonz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4They don't need to admit they were wrong. Who is going to force them?
- wakananda, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
- jeffiek, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Not sure exactly. Think it got tossed out with the cat's pajamas.
- Schmidtopolis, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3It's true, he likes authority
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2wow u know people have hobbies
- KevenM, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Thank you for filling in where the author failed to.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2i think i the writers of the declaration of independence where still around we might be getting ready for a new govt
- lodwar, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Please tell me your Kidding !
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2you ready to bomb the white house?
just in case that doesnt get swat , terror, posion, water supply, president, police, death. -
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