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- airwalkery2k, on 11/10/2007, -0/+181Your comment has a woody texture, that overall exemplifies a rather bitter undertone. While it was rather complex, I must say I found it rather flat in the end.
- rauz, on 11/11/2007, -1/+92Good wines are the ones that taste good to you.
- iboschen, on 11/11/2007, -5/+88After discovering I was in the company of complete frauds, I probably would have done a second test: white wine vs. my urine
- openthink, on 11/09/2007, -9/+87i love these kinds of stories. similar to art critics -- where they're shown (supposedly) the hottest, trend-setting new art and they rave about it, only to learn later the stuff was created by a local 2nd grade class.
- MikeonTV, on 11/10/2007, -9/+66I'm no wine expert but I did waiter while in school at a members only dinner club. I have tasted alot of wines and currently know what to buy and what to expect whilst in the liquor store. I must say that I cannot believe that not 1 of 57 wine 'experts' could't tell the difference.
I will have to give this a shot next time I have a few of my own 'experts' around. - atdigg, on 11/09/2007, -4/+52I also think that in some blind tests experts picked cheap wines as superior at almost the same ration as expensive ones, I think this comes to show that wine industry is mostly smoke and mirrors, and with lots of snobs around....
- victrola, on 11/09/2007, -5/+52This is funny because wine snobs are so irritating. They tend to be ***** people in other areas of life as well, making them fun to bait.
- Error601, on 11/09/2007, -0/+34I believe it. I worked in a wine shop for a while and the business is much more about the label than the contents. Some of the tastings were amazing BS sessions. The people that really knew their stuff stayed out of that crowd. People that made their own seemed to be able to pick out types by taste pretty good. There's a lot to be said for experiencing the whole process in order to understand the final product.
- mookiemookie, on 11/13/2007, -3/+30I found the texture is so pleasing that the comment is hard not to like. Very nicely balanced and very broadly useful, this comment shows interesting notes suggesting both hummus and st john's wort. This is a rich, complex comment balanced with good acidity, making it a fine accompaniment for a wide variety of dishes.
- AgentMull, on 11/09/2007, -0/+23Reminds me of the digg reader who mistook a blank page for an article about an art critic who mistook a pile of bricks for a sculpture.
http://www.digg.com/offbeat_news/57_Wine_Experts_M ... - dinostabOMG, on 11/09/2007, -1/+22I agree it can get over the top. But do you think any beer is just as good as any other beer?
- izzybr, on 11/09/2007, -1/+19But anything from Busch really would have that water American macrobrew (from rice) taste.
Brooklyn Brown Ale vs. ANY of the 'macro-micros' ... fuhgettaboudit
And wine snobs are way worse. Beer snobs are at least fun - inactive, on 11/09/2007, -3/+21Wine experts are full of *****? My world has no meaning....
- AlbinoRaven, on 11/11/2007, -4/+21I used to do this when i was younger. Put regular, cheap table plonk into a fancy bottle and wait for someone to give their opinion while at supper.
- mbelleghem, on 11/09/2007, -1/+18I'd like to see the same gang do this with $1/ft lamp cord wrapped in 500/ft speaker wire packaging and give the audiophile set a thorough drubbing.
- Matt2k, on 11/09/2007, -0/+15Coffee snobs are similar. You know there's a problem when you describe a coffee as "exceptional and velvety, As the cup cools, it seems to reveal itself in layers. The brightness emerges a bit more. The caramel roast taste sweetens, and there's more than a hint of fresh berry in the finish.". It's almost audiophile-esqe the snobbery. Aruging about roasting curves, specialty burr grinders, precise brew times and temperatures. And if you ask, each one makes a "Dramatic!" difference in outcome. Yeah, ok.
I used to have a local distributer I would buy green beans from, but I stopped going because of the condescending attitude. The last time I went I asked what he had new in that was good, his reply "Everything I have is good, or I wouldn't have it". Then dead silence. I just mail order now and keep to myself so to avoid people like that. - uptwolait, on 11/11/2007, -0/+14People are suckers for marketing, no matter what the product. Did someone say Starbucks?
- bullhead2007, on 11/09/2007, -1/+15If you can't tell the difference between Bud Light, from Fat Tire, from Sierra Nevada, from Bastard Ale, from Pale ales, from Heffeveisen, etc from each other than you have some pretty shoddy taste buds.
I'm not a beer snob, but I do like to taste different kinds of beers. I drink bud light type stuff to get drunk. I buy other stuff for the taste. They have distinct flavors and after tastes. Some taste like malts, some taste like hops, mixtures, etc. - johndi, on 11/09/2007, -3/+17No doubt, my good man. Just by gazing upon a wine it should be obvious if it has the proper fermentation complexity bestowed by its terroir.
Wine snobs are a hoot. - Matt2k, on 11/09/2007, -1/+14I'm pretty sure I can taste differences between beers. At the very least, I'd love an excuse to try.
- degron, on 11/09/2007, -6/+19I disagree...wine and beer are different, wine (red) separates types by minuscule flavor and smell differences, whereas beer can be vastly different in taste, texture and color. Most beers from major American brewerys do taste similar. They are brewed in pretty much the same way. I can't really taste much difference in those beers because there isn't much taste to them (no taste is why you have to drink them cold) on the other hand I can defiantly tell the difference between say Bud and Killians or Yuengling. I gree with izzybr beer is fun, wine = stuck up snobs.
- heartcoldfusion, on 11/08/2007, -0/+13A by-product of prohibition. Before the 20's and 30's, am told that Americans actually enjoyed rich, full, ales, but during prohibition, the taste shifted to what was available and easy to bootleg: watered down piss lager.
- inactive, on 11/11/2007, -2/+14This is hilarious and not at all surprising.
- wild, on 11/09/2007, -1/+13God forbid you take a day or two off between bottles...
- inactive, on 11/09/2007, -1/+11At least we're *****, you're just an idiot.
- raynar, on 11/08/2007, -0/+9Why do I drink my own urine? Because its sterile, and I like the taste
--shameless "Dodgeball" reference. - Klak, on 11/09/2007, -0/+9the biggest wine expert i know lives behind the dumpsters at my appartments
- Error601, on 11/09/2007, -20/+29I'm not sure who is worse...wine snobs or beer snobs. I bet I could take any random beer, tell a beer snob it's something new from Busch, and they would go off on how it has that "watery, American, macrobrew taste" or some other cliche.
- hydrodev, on 11/09/2007, -0/+8i wonder how they scored on the pepsi challenge
- raynar, on 11/09/2007, -1/+9There is no "best" wine. Its all preference. Some people might like a $1000 bottle, while others wouldnt like it and instead enjoy a $7 bottle of Yellowtail. Its like beer/computers/cars/whatever else.
- moracity, on 11/09/2007, -11/+19Clearly, these were not wine experts. A wine expert should be able to at least tell you the varietal while blind-folded. Even a wine enthusiast like myself can tell the difference between a red and white wine. Even the aroma is different.
- sagefool1975, on 11/08/2007, -1/+9I think all it really tells you is that there are a lot of people out there pretending to be wine experts "Oooh look at me! I'm an expert! I've spent a lot of money on wine, that makes me an expert!" because it makes them feel good to be opinionated about something as culturally refined as wine. Since they aren't actually experts they are easily fooled as wine is a subtle complex beast - and being an expert in it is actually very hard.
- therealkdog, on 11/09/2007, -6/+14I am NOT drinking any ***** Merlot!
- fezzasus, on 11/09/2007, -2/+10no surprise here. Cheap red wine is white wine with a red dye (basically the grap skins colour the wine, cheap wine doesnt spend long enough in the barrel to be coloured by the skins so an artifical dye is added - this is why cheap wine stains your teeth)
- kooft, on 11/09/2007, -1/+8"I bet I could take any random beer..." Guinness? Mmmm?
- drachemorder, on 11/09/2007, -0/+7About all I can tell about coffee is that Starbucks burns it beyond reason. That swill tastes like ashes.
- j1337, on 11/09/2007, -1/+8It's their job to be presented with wines and tell people about how they all have very original tastes. They probably wouldn't last very long in their line of work if they were honest enough to admit that many wines pretty much taste the same.
- heartcoldfusion, on 11/09/2007, -0/+7What I found interesting was that it seemed like the author is not interested in calling out 'experts;' he's actually somewhat sympathetic towards them and says that our senses are just an amalgamation of all of our experiences and past memories. Instead of trashing them for being snobby and elite, he says that their sensations are telling them that the wine in the cheap bottle is cheap and the wine in the expensive bottle is expensive.
- exomni, on 11/08/2007, -3/+9Your comment basically shows how stupid are you.
- LeRenard, on 11/08/2007, -3/+9How did "wine experts" explain the "red" wine having no tannin? BS. I can understand them being pompous and using words like "jamming", but not noticing the tannin or acid differences is a fundamental error. (BTW, there are two types of wine.. the kind you want to drink, and the kind you don't.)
- wiirdo, on 11/09/2007, -1/+7I second that! I'm happy with $6-8 wine. I probably couldn't tell the difference between this and $20-30 bottles. Hope I never become a snooty, turn-your-nose-up wine drinker.
- TheMachine1, on 11/09/2007, -0/+5Heinz
- benjamanb, on 11/09/2007, -0/+5As an amateur sociologist and observer of the human circus, I think the phenomenon of "purists" -- regardless of their field of interest -- is a fascinating area of exploration. It most cases, I believe, the purist begins to derive more pleasure from their knowledge, and the exhibition thereof, than they do from their object/area of interest. So the wine purist/expert's primary source of enjoyment/fulfillment no longer lies in enjoying the wine itself, but in expounding upon the pedigree, history, horticultural technique, etc of it. In other words, their focus shifts to the trappings and away from the central object itself. Unfortunately, the step between this and snobbery/elitism is one that very few people can resist.
As a maker of many varieties of home-made wine, ranging from honey mead to fruit wines to more traditional grape wines, I have come up with a simple rating scale. From top to bottom: It's Really Good; It's Good; It's OK; It's Drinkable; It's Getting Poured Down the Drain. Every wine falls somewhere on that scale, whether it is white, red, yellow, orange, golden, magenta (beet wine) or whatever.
My advice to everyone is to relax and enjoy yourselves. In the words of Charlie Papazian: Relax, don't worry, have a homebrew. - Livewire, on 11/08/2007, -3/+8PLACEBO
- thumperings, on 11/09/2007, -0/+5well at some point subjectivity gets checked. I'll still take a Picasso over a Velvet elvis. Apples and Oranges... maybe but some people are too stupid to know what's good for them . That being said, (insert cleverness here -->) __________________________________
- thefandango, on 11/08/2007, -0/+5"at least my Merlot doesn't crash like your ***** Chardonnay!"
- hydoskee, on 11/09/2007, -0/+5Prejudices against wine experts aside, our senses are inexorably linked, and I doubt you'd enjoy a filet mignon that looked a popsicle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synesthesia - chenbot, on 11/09/2007, -1/+6What is it about the difference that makes it so defiant? I'm guessing it's this new age of hands-off parenting.
- aegis9975, on 11/09/2007, -3/+8Reminds me of the story of a New York art critic that mistook a pile of bricks on the terrace of the Marlborough Gallery in Manhattan for a sculpture.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=980 ... - wachter1, on 11/08/2007, -2/+7I have done blind tastings with friends who know a lot about wine, and friends who don't know squat. In the last tasting the bottles were completely covered with foil. The result: 10 out of 11 all picked out both the "best" wine (both the ratings and price) *and* the "worst" wine (both ratings and price). In truth the best wine wasn't that great and the worst wine wasn't that bad -- but people still figured out the entire range of all 6 wines with amazing accuracy.
Hide the label and make people rely entirely on their taste buds and they *can* tell the difference -- even if they are not regular wine drinkers. -
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