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- neoform, on 10/12/2007, -31/+227"drunken illegal alien"
where do you see those words in the article?
I'm pretty sure NO ONE who actually dugg this story, bothered to read it.
***** digg users.. - Y2JCrisis, on 10/12/2007, -37/+193Sad, but this is scare mongering. American citizens drive drunk and create tragedies just like this as well.
See Achalemoipas's comment below. - Hoov, on 10/12/2007, -10/+95Sad :(
- hipnerd, on 10/12/2007, -23/+93The submitter is racist. The article never mentions the guy's immigration status, so the submitter pulls up a bunch of xenophobic hate sites that say that the INS "started proceedings against him but never followed through."
The INS doesn't start proceedings against illegals who commit crimes, they just deport them or send them to jail. They start proceedings against legal immigrants to revoke their status. So the guy was probably legal. This case has nothing to do with weak immigration laws, it has everything to do with the guys' 17 other "violations." Were they for speeding? Parking tickets? We don't know.
Because the guy is from Ecuador, the submitter came up with the most damaging possible interpretation of the facts and then threw in a bunch of absolute b.s. on top. He isn't here to share facts, he's here to push an agenda. Look at his history, then study this post to see how he took a story from four years ago and twisted it to fit his bigoted preconceptions about how the world works. - valis, on 10/12/2007, -2/+72The article is from 2002. How is she doing now?
- bitt3n, on 10/12/2007, -12/+67maybe make him carry the girl around piggyback for the rest of his life.
then if I were the girl, I would start taking up marathons. - dankosaur, on 10/12/2007, -16/+59It did say he was drunk. Illegal alien, probably not.
- netburnr, on 10/12/2007, -29/+71Up to 5 years in jail, thats all?!
Give the ***** the death sentence...and by that I mean throw his ass in his country's jail, not ours. - nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -16/+55@saintdesy:
Most of us are immigrants here in North America. What the hell difference does it make where someone's from when they do something like this?! They should be punished equally, and the punishment should be much worse than 5 years in prison. As far as I'm concerned this should be considered a deliberate act of harm to another individual. As if people aren't aware that vehicles can be dangerous when driven recklessly at high speeds.
Why does it make it worse that this guy wasn't born in the US? That's some seriously stupid ***** to be saying. - dzelika, on 10/12/2007, -23/+59Your report is completely inaccurate and quite racist. If you have actually spent some time to read the article you would have noticed that it doesn't say ANYWHERE that the guy is an "illegal." It does say, however, that he is "a native of Ecuador" which makes him an immigrant, but NOT necessarily an illegal one.
Shame on you for promoting hatred and racism, even if not intentionally. - Crave, on 10/12/2007, -5/+38Your METHOD of "putting" WORDS in caps and "quotation marks" MAKES what you have to say DIFFICULT to "understand" let alone take SERIOUSLY.
- nick0909, on 10/12/2007, -4/+34I work for a Sheriff's department. Trust me, there are plenty of fully legal (immigration-wise) people that don't give two craps about our laws. Sad story yes, but dugg inaccurate, you can't just make up headlines because you want it to read that way.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -13/+39Then he'll be able to bribe his way out for a pack of smokes and $100.
No thanks. I'd rather he rot in solitary confinement here. Can't be too expensive to put someone in a 5'x5'x6' hole in the ground. - Y2JCrisis, on 10/12/2007, -4/+30Everything about that situation shouldn't have happened in the first place. The misdemeanor of his illegal immigration isn't comparable to the felony of his repeat offenses.
- hivalre, on 10/12/2007, -26/+52I love how this is story has been resubmitted with the reference to the guy being an illegal alien moved down from the title. His immigration status has no bearing on his actions. And there are unfortunately thousands of people injured by drunk drivers every year. Not the most newsworthy story in the world... except that the poster is using it as a emotional appeal against illegal immigrants.
- fatmike, on 10/12/2007, -14/+38i do find your use of the term "illegal alien" in the article description to be quite interesting as that does not appear once in the story which you have submitted.
i have noticed a trend in which a large number of your submitted story titles and descriptions contain this term. most of the other stories deal with the subject of race and ethnic backgrounds.
while this is indeed a horrible story, i can certainly understand why people might be offended by your use of "illegal alien". there are a number of people who would consider this a racial slur. - painting, on 10/12/2007, -6/+29everyone knows if it wasn't an illegal immigrant, she'd still have her legs. duh!
- kronicoutkast, on 10/12/2007, -2/+24I love how it takes years before pontiac gets on the front page of digg, and not only that.. the article is from 2002. Jesus christ.
Ok digg me down now - Goner, on 10/12/2007, -24/+43Actually, he was illegal:
http://www.thenewamerican.com/artman/publish/article_4315.shtml
search her name in that article to find corroboration... - MasterLJ, on 10/12/2007, -3/+21This is a story about a douchebag who happens to be an illegal alien. It's not a story about someone who is a douchebag because they are an illegal alien.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18"Records show that Jose Carcamo has amassed 17 violations since 1995"
It reminds me of a guy who lived in my building during college. He had about as many DUI convictions. He eventually had his license taken away for a year. Two days after he got it back he totaled his car drunk driving. It was a good thing. Nobody was hurt and he was such a ***** up there was no way he could get his hands on another car so he was neutralized as a threat to others.
The law needs to start shutting repeat offenders down - RevMark, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18Yes it is sad. And yes it is fear mongering. However, we cannot ignore the fact that drunk drivers kill 12-14,000 people every year in the US. You read that right 14,000 people each year are kill by drunk drivers each year in the US. Whether themselves. A passenger. Victims in other vehicles. Or pedestrians.
- dzelika, on 10/12/2007, -10/+24Hurting people IS NOT OK WHETHER OR NOT YOU ARE "ILLEGAL."
My point here is that you think this news is outrageous ONLY because it was committed by illegal aliens. Focusing only on the trespasses of illegal aliens in order to "prove" that they are a bunch of "animals" who "celebrate drinking and driving" is pure racism. MOST of these people are honest, hard working women and men who are only asking to be given a chance to live normal lives. I am all for prosecuting drunk drivers, rapists, child molesters, murderers, wife-beaters, and other scum of this world. I just don't think that the color of people's skin and their legal status in this country makes them more or less bad than those who are white and citizens.
I feel very bad for this girl, it is such a tragedy that her life will be bound to wheelchairs and hospitals. My heart goes to her and her family. That's such a profound loss for all of them. What I still don't understand though is how would she be better off if the guy who hurt her were white and had proper documents?
Obviously, hating and scapegoating illegal immigrants is your way of coping with this country's crappy economy, war that's costing us not only BILLIONS of dollars but THOUSANDS OF LIVES, poor health care and criminal social policy. But I forget, you probably blame that on Liberals. Sorry, I got sidetracked.
Peace to the world and Merry Christmas to us all. I hope you'll have a warm place and food on your table. - dzelika, on 10/12/2007, -22/+36P.S. - I have noticed that you mostly post articles that are about the "illegals" and their "despicable deeds." You clearly have an agenda and it is not to advocate for peace and love.
- Oxygen, on 10/12/2007, -6/+19So where did you cut-and-paste that from ?
- hipnerd, on 10/12/2007, -8/+21@inboxnews: I need to stop focusing on what offends me and focus on the girl? I get this from the guy who was willing to exploit her suffering to advance his xenophobic, anti-immigration views four years after the accident?
Forgive me if I don't give a rat's ass what you think. - JorgeGonzalez, on 10/12/2007, -6/+19Also just noticed this story is nearly five years old. Sure, this guy is an ass, but the posting of this article is solely for spreading discrimination. I say throw both Jose and inboxnews into the slammer.
- ryllharu, on 10/12/2007, -8/+20Reinvoke Hammurabi's code! Legs for legs.
Oh wait, the victim was female, at best he'd have to pay a fine. Maybe it's a bad idea after all. - synystar, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16@neoform
Last paragraph: Carcamo, a native of Ecuador, is being held in the Oakland County Jail. What article did you read? - miamilaw, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10this guy was a drunk driver. he deserves the full punishment allowed by law. that's the bottom line here folks. did the INS (now dept. of homeland security's ICE) fail in its execution of removal proceedings? Of course. This guys has a pretty long record. That's what needs to be focused on. This guy didn't crush this poor girl's legs *because* he was an immigrant. have some common sense and stop baiting people's emotions. what's next: 3-time embezzler runs over an old lady, let's pass a law to make sure all embezzlers are instantly sentenced to death when they run over old ladies. welcome to a one-branch form of government. cuba is about 90 miles south of florida. i'll drive you to the airport.
this guy should have been deported a very long time ago. he is not guilty of a causing an injury due via DUI *because* he entered into this country illegally, he is guilty of a DUI because he made a very bad choice and our laws provide a very harsh ramification for that: prison. Send him back home? Of course... but, the reason U.S. immigration policy puts deportable aliens in our jails first before deportation is to make sure that if people do come here illegally they are quite aware they won't get off the hook by the U.S. simply deporting them (and probably coming back). Save money or ensure people know if they do wrong they go to prison, not a "exit card" out of the U.S. This has been debated since the dawn of immigration law. It's policy/law for a reason.
crimes are committed by the people who commit them, not because of their status. enough with this ***** xenophobia. I.C.E. should have gotten rid of this guy a very long time ago. This guy deserves punishment under law and ICE needs the tools it needs to do what is legally mandated of it to do.
understand we're a nation of laws not law-by-emotion. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14Oh those silly aliens. Go back to your planet.
- Cyrusman, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14I'm not saying that what that guy did was ok, but the article says he's a native of Ecuador, not an illegal alien.
- gabrielg01, on 10/12/2007, -10/+19Here we go again with the "ILLEGAL ALIEN" *****. And if he was a legal alien, or an American citizen, would that make things any better???? This is like stressing that a criminal was a "black man". Only idiots talk like this, who want to uphold social stereotypes.
- scottfarner, on 10/12/2007, -9/+18Throw him in his country's jail? As far as i can tell from the article, his country is the USA.
- MaxwellTD, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Man this is horrible!
"He said Taylor was just overcoming the loss of a boyfriend who died in May after a motorcycle accident that involved a drunken driver." And she just got her legs cut off, I feel bad for her now... - DrewBlood, on 10/12/2007, -8/+16Even if he was an illegal alien, how does it have any bearing on this story? The comments above about it meaning he shouldn't have been here in the first place mean nothing. This could just as easily have happened had any other drunken idiot hit this poor girl. Adding his immigration status to the description is just inflammatory.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+15@netburnr
I was thinking the same thing. This girl has had the rest of her life irrevokably changed and this guy faces the MAXIMUM of 5 years in prison.
I hope the ***** gets gangbanged in prison and ends up with AIDS. That MIGHT make up for what he did to this girl. - Fordi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Sorry, did no one notice that this is a four-year-old story? Sorry, but I don't see the interest, aside from the obvious intention of making an illegal alien case out of this. He's not illegal, though he's also not a citizen. Why they haven't deported him is beyond me (ie: he committed a crime while on temporary visa), but that hardly bears on the meat of the story: idiot drag racer damages a girl's life.
Inboxnews: attaching 'illegal alien' to the article just kinda proves the disturbing levels nationalism can get to: exploiting a tragic story for the sake of pushing your political agenda, and rationalizing it sufficiently that you can't even accept that you're a despicable human. - daldredge, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8But I have been told quite a few times by users on this site that illegal racers don't harm anyone?
Now perhaps you idiots will grow up. - fatmike, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12inboxnews,
as i stated in my original comment, "i can certainly understand why people might be offended". i do not find this personally offensive, however, i do find your overuse of the term quite interesting.
as for your decision to resort to name calling, i find that interesting as well, due to the fact that i was not attacking you on any level. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Just a question... if the guy has 17 previous offenses and he's an illegal alien, how is it that he's still in the country? You'd think that just ONCE out of those 17 times someone would ask for his papers/look into his background and find out he's illegal.
- CoachZed, on 10/12/2007, -9/+15Is there a digg feature for "mark as bigoted"?
The only source that substantiates anything about his immigration status is a wildly biased anti-immigration site, while the article submitted says absolutely nothing about him being illegal. In fact, a google news search reveals no objective websites commenting on Carcamo's immigration status. The only sites that mention it are other xenophobic anti-immigration sites that simply parrot each other.
I'm also curious as to how an "illegal" alien would build up a 17 citation record over 11 years. - Madcowz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Our thoughts go to the girl and her family.
This state of affairs is exactly the same in the UK, we have repeat offenders doing the same thing over and over again, going to jail, coming out and offending again. It needs to stop.
I don't know what to suggest, but a 3 strikes and you're out would be a start. And why the hell do prisoners not have to work from 9-5 every day to pay for their rent & food just like the rest of us, extra cash could be spent on luxuries, for example a television or radio. This would mean that after a period in jail, they are not conditioned to sitting around (pumping iron/taking drugs/learning to be a better criminal/pumping ass), but used to grafting every day and taking responsibility for their lives. Upon release, they may find it easier to 'slot' back into society.
I don't know the answer, but something needs to change.
/Mad - dvd14, on 10/12/2007, -2/+817 priors (for similar offenses) + felony conviction = 5 years in prision? I just don't get it. This guy obviously has a problem. Why didn't anyone realize his problem after the 5th conviction, or the 10th, or the 12th...
VERY FRUSTRATING, and sad. - Swift2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6There are two sides to this issue: one is, declare the U.S. a flat and free space, to which anyone can come. This has been the labor policy of the United States since the mid-70s, most strongly, but not only, by free-trade conservatives. They decided to bust unions, because, well, don't ask a right-winger why, God makes him attack unions. Now, under the past system, Swift meatpackers in the midwest were paid more than $20 an hour for dangerous, hard work. And the truth is, any illegal applying for this job then for $7.00 an hour would have been kept away by the same labor laws which gave people the right to organize.
Now, when Swift paid $20 an hour, the community gained a lot of revenue with that, to build schools and roads and such. And the workers, doing one of the most dangerous jobs in North America -- no kidding -- could buy a home and send their kids to college if they wanted. And they had health and retirement benefits.
Now, when you basically abolish the Labor Department, and change the regulations so that the process of union ratification takes forever, and impose no penalties on business for dropping the worker's pay by 2/3, dropping the medical insurance and so on, and having a free hand on working conditions, then you create a world where labor competition has full rein. Mexicans work cheap.
They used to cross the border every year for the seasonal jobs like crops and such. When the harvest was done, they left. When our new conservative masters designed the present labor system, a huge increase in low-cost labor was inevitable. In fact, it was desired.
The raid on the meatpackers this week, with the usual lying photo-ops from the Bush administration, was simply turning over one stone in a situation that has been going on for years. I read exposes about these meatpackers back in the '90s. The fact is, plant management makes contracts with coyotes to go get workers on one side of the border or another. They recruit massively, because, after all, nobody's going to find their way to a meatpacker in Kansas from the Rio Grande. and with minimum-wage workers, you're always finding more because they don't last.
One of the places they go, of course, is the local emergency ward, thus costing taxpayers instead of their non-existent medical coverage.
So I agree that something has to come after "free trade," because this country didn't grow because of trade, but because of the high tariffs that made internal development possible. But it's ironic that the same parties who defined the neoliberal era of free trade are now desperately trying to make us blame the whole thing on this racist idea of the "invading hordes." The government made the vacuum. Informal immigration is filling it, as the free-traders desired.
One of the problems with the free trade doctrine is that it's about as secure as Windows XP before SP2. Free-traders think it's a feature. - JAFFA, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5We have similiar laws in the UK but they are under revision. At the moment its called 'Careless Driving' (which carries a fine/supervision order) but will be upgraded to 'Dangerous Driving'. This will mean that a manslaughter charge can be brought in the event of a death and (potentially) a custodial life sentence whether someone dies or not.
- ZenMojo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8The submitter's a hate-mongering douche. The real issue is that he's had 17 traffic violations, not that he's an immigrant, and nowhere does it say he's illegal.
The real problem is that so many people, especially here in LA, drive drunk. It's like they just don't give a damn. - TyrannousDotNet, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7why is "accident" in quotes?
- houston, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I'm suprised to see this story on Digg, I have met Tricia several times and know her somewhat well. This happened in 2002 and Tricia is alive and well, living her life from the confines of a wheelchair. Tricia's cousin Katie is married to my close friend.
The man who hit her was in fact an immigrant, I do not know for sure if he was holding a green card or not. I do know that her family and friends were very upset by the fact that the man wasn't deported. - Disjunto, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6the guys out next year... nice old article :P
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