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- Zippo, on 12/10/2008, -6/+69Meh, it won't take long for a revised mod chip to be released.
Also, it's disc... the Wii has no disk drive. *sigh* - inactive, on 12/10/2008, -5/+44Buried for misleading title - insert the word "current" before modchips
edit: I have a modchip on my Wii. It *still* sits there gathering dust. It's a travesty, how much potential the Wii had, and how little of it has been realized by now - unit sales figures aside. Where are the games?! One or two per year isn't enough. - aurorous, on 12/10/2008, -1/+38Saw the words "Wii disk drive" and got excited... now I'm bummed
- reyalp, on 12/10/2008, -4/+30Only begun, the h4x war has.
- skywake, on 12/10/2008, -4/+21I don't see how Nintendo stopping the use of burnt games on their console is "scum" behaviour. I would agree with you if you were referring to the region protection on the Wii but lets face it, most people who mod-chip their Wii aren't concerned with playing games from Japan.
I can buy a Wii game on a disk and use it within Nintendo's Terms and Conditions with significantly less restrictions then many PC games on the market (Spore for example). Sure I can crack PC games if I want to avoid DRM but guess what! I can do the same on the Wii even if some modchips are blocked temporarily (just like new DRM on a PC). Give it a week and this "new Wii" will be hacked even though there really isn't any need for it IMO. - Zippo, on 12/10/2008, -0/+17Disk and disc are two different things. Harddrives and floppys use the work disK... CDs, DVDs, Blu-Ray, etc use disC.
Nazi-ish, I know... but using K is still incorrect when referring to a DVD/CD/Blu-Ray disc.
/The more YOU know! - inactive, on 12/10/2008, -4/+17It's not as if DRM doesn't exist on the PC.
- coyote1284, on 12/10/2008, -0/+12*facepalm @self*
I stand corrected. - Ju1c3, on 12/10/2008, -3/+15ummm twilight hack anyone? dont need a modchip to play anything you want and you dont void the warranty. play burned games, dvd's, emulators.... there is no stopping this nintendo.
- maceelk, on 12/10/2008, -4/+14You know, im just really getting sick of buying computational hardware and then being instructed as to how im able to use it's parts.
This crap needs to stop now. I want Android on my iphone ( i bought the damned cpu,memory,and screen right?) and i want to be able to apply mod chips in other things i own as well. Imagine if we could only put a certain brand of gas in our cars because when we bought them they demanded that we use only that gas........... - eatporktoo, on 12/10/2008, -0/+8you have made me sooooo happy! I didn't think anyone else cared about that technicality! BTW, @coyote1284, he is 100% correct, so...
/Stop being a prick! - SeanRoss, on 12/10/2008, -0/+8Anything that can be locked, can be unlocked. Give it time.
- UselessTrivia, on 12/10/2008, -4/+12HA! Dude I'm a life-long PC gamer...but seriously...console DRM is nothing compared to what we get to deal with.
You think not being able to use a modchip is bad? Wait until "trusted computing" becomes a reality. - verevi, on 12/10/2008, -0/+7He meant the spelling: disc vs. disk.
http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/disc.html
/The more *you* know - inactive, on 12/10/2008, -0/+6And then we'll crack it.
- Topher06, on 12/10/2008, -11/+17DRM would not exist if people like you didn't steal games. You think a game developer and console maker want to waste millions of dollars and tonnes of time trying to find ways to force cheap bastards to stop stealing their games? Because you steal games, DRM is required. The companies are not going to stop, so how about you do us a favour and buy a game every now and then.
- gamergod42, on 12/10/2008, -3/+9Nintendo seems to like to make things difficult for it's users. Want to hack your Wii? We're going to stop you with every software update, and now hardware changes too. Are the huge profits they are making not enough? Want to send messages to other wii owners? Well you can't unless you know their crazy long 16 digit wii number (sure there are forums and sites like http://mapwii.com to share them, but still). Even online wii games have 12 character numbers. Come on Nintendo...just give us a Wii Hard Drive already and some decent new games.
- MasterGrief, on 12/10/2008, -1/+6It's not ALL bad. But as a non-casual gamer, it's certainly not all good.
- ericrous, on 12/10/2008, -0/+5Who needs games when fools are still happily buying the console in droves without them?
- coyote1284, on 12/10/2008, -0/+5I have. My retraction was effecively simul-post with your comment.
- ericcc, on 12/10/2008, -0/+5From the article it seems that it's a cost-saving hardware swap. Basically, two separate chips on the drive's PCB are replaced by a new dual purpose chip. This won't slow down down pirates too much (a workaround is probably already in the works) but might save them a bit of cash on each machine.
- sh0rtstop00, on 12/10/2008, -2/+7how new? I got my Wii in mid November.. I just found out about Homebrew last night.. was gonna get Zelda and do the softmod... wait.. so this doesnt affect me cuz i'm not going touch the hardware
- wakingrufus, on 12/10/2008, -0/+5twilight hack has been updated:
http://wiibrew.org/wiki/Twilight_Hack - Corrosionx, on 12/10/2008, -0/+5~~~~* THE MORE WE KNOW
- kalvinb, on 12/10/2008, -1/+6Maybe the new drive is cheaper to manufacture.
- Jektal, on 12/10/2008, -0/+5I like the spirit of your argument, but you don't seem to understand the challenges. Android won't run on a iPhone for a lot more reasons than because Apple doesn't want it to. The iPhone OS was specifically designed for that hardware and vice-versa, just as all Android phones are specifically designed for that OS.
- otros, on 12/10/2008, -0/+4and yet you're a digger.
- mattyboy555, on 12/10/2008, -1/+5Im still waiting for Majora Mask and Body Harvest on the virtual console.
- nickdngr, on 12/10/2008, -0/+4Oh, this won't affect my already modded wii. I misread it as "disks" first.
- drfnord, on 12/10/2008, -0/+4An "Attempt to block homebrew"? Nintendo could care less about homebrew, it doesn't lose them money. It's an attempt to block piracy.
- inactive, on 12/10/2008, -0/+4Nintendo: New Wii Disk Drives Render Modchips Useless For Now
Fix'd - jigga, on 12/10/2008, -3/+7You're right, the Wii was nice in the beginning, but then all it started to do was collect dust. Like you, I eventually sold mine and used the money to get a PS3.
- EvilFerret, on 12/10/2008, -0/+4Knowing is half the battle. G.I. JOE!!!!
- aladrin, on 12/10/2008, -0/+4"Boot loaders can load burned copies without having to install a chip." Can they? I've been waiting to hear this had been accomplished, but this is the first I've heard of it.
- bishopknight, on 12/10/2008, -0/+4But Nintendo sold 800,000 last month (sarcasm)
- MasterGrief, on 12/10/2008, -1/+4Best game I've played on the Wii is the Resident Evil 4 re-release. That's basically a four year old game... Not good.
- killtheaquitted, on 12/10/2008, -0/+3You mean I won't be able to hack it and watch movies in glorious 480p anymore??? Damn you Mario and friends!
- Elranzer, on 12/11/2008, -0/+3Enjoy your MMOs, FPS and RTS.
- KibibyteBrain, on 12/10/2008, -2/+5I never said games. I am not a game developer. I mean software.
- Barackalypse, on 12/10/2008, -6/+9They should work on the Wii's real problem, a crappy selection of games that renders the Wii useless.
- MrBabyManSTFU, on 12/10/2008, -0/+3Wasn't the twilight hack fixed some time ago through a software patch? Obviously if you have an unpatched console it should still work, but having just purchased one I'm sure the patch is installed already on your hardware
EDIT: A quick google searched turned up an article from June 08 that states the twilight hack and the homebrew channel were fixed in version 3.3 of the Wii software. (Unless a new Twilight hack has turned up since...)
http://gizmodo.com/5017189/nintendo-has-plugged-th ... - mrsteveman1, on 12/10/2008, -2/+5DRM isn't as much a problem on consoles, all it does is tie the disc to the machine and prevent the disc itself from being copied and played.
DRM on the PC has attempted to tie a disc to a PERSON and screw with the machine in the process. - runnin17, on 12/10/2008, -0/+3He he, this little conversation made me smile :)
- KibibyteBrain, on 12/10/2008, -3/+6Many are interested in homebrew development and other uses for the console. I for example experimented with some PPC specific development in high school with my Gamecube when that was the only device I had for the platform thanks to a mod chip. I know its not fair to ask Nintendo to make decisions for 1% of its customers, but it still sucks that they have to disregard us so much when it comes to a cool product.
- earthceltic, on 12/10/2008, -1/+4Have they come up with one that is solderless yet? It's annoying to have to track down the tiny tiny connections inside those boxes and put something hot inside.
- inactive, on 12/10/2008, -0/+3I finally dusted mine off so I can take it to my fathers house for christmas. My little nephews love playing wii boxing.
- forcedfx, on 12/11/2008, -0/+2You bought an Apple product and are bitching about being able to load whatever you want? Is this your first Apple product?
- Jektal, on 12/10/2008, -0/+2Well, you call out emulation as the means for playing console games on PCs. WINE is also emulation. Both of these require a stable OS to run on. You can't run (software) emulation or a virtual machine without an underlying OS.
Which means in order to run Android on the iPhone you'd need to have the iPhone OS running, and an Android emulator running. The iPhone simply doesn't have nearly enough computing power to do that. No phone does.
In some cases you really honestly are limited by hardware. Sure, you could re-build Android (it is open source) so it runs natively on the iPhone hardware, but unless you work for Apple you're going to have to reverse engineer every aspect of the hardware. Which is possible, but not likely to happen. - oxymoron69, on 12/10/2008, -0/+2You can't flash your lite-on, but you can spoof a benq or sammy to pretend they're your lite-on drive.
It works great. I used the 360xtractor + spear to extract the key and the rest of the process is about the same as flashing a benq normally. - ericcc, on 12/10/2008, -1/+3@cdahlkvist
Unlike your parents who had to pick between a couple of daily papers and several network news shows, we have literally hundreds if not thousands of news outlets to choose from. A simple story about a cost saving hardware swap will not get many hits so lets make it about the modchips and homebrew scenes. -
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