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LowandBeholdAug 7, 2011
Be afraid Chile: be very afraid. Anonymous does not forget.
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hyperziperAug 7, 2011
For f*cks sake. Anonymous does not live in a country where protests literally cripple the country. Do huge damages to private AND public property. I'm all for free speech, I'm pro-Ron Paul, but as a citizen living in the country, I for once was in favor of PROTECTING THE REST of the people from these huge mobs of people destroying everything in it's path. Yes I was struck with anti-riot gas, yes it was pretty darn awful... but god dammit, if you are going to protest, learn to respect the other people that have NOTHING to do with it. Plus, all these "innocent" people that were "arrested" were set free the next day after.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
hyperziperAug 7, 2011
Oh and before you cry "police state", let me give you some trivia:
* Cops are not allowed to use tasers.
* Anti-riot gas is the "worst" thing a cop can use.
* If you shoot the water cannon directly to a pedestrian, the cop responsible will be expelled.
* "Arrested" means nothing, as all are set free the next day after.
In other words, the US is more of a police state than Chile is, regarding riot-control. Sh!t, if I ever threw a molotov bomb in the middle of the street to stop the traffic to gather "attention", I'd be sent to jail for who-knows how long.
Trust me, I'm a 100% libertarian, full-blown Ron Paul-like libertarian. But when you see these huge mobs gathering that throw rocks and molotov bombs, and you have no second amendment which allows you to bear arms and defend yourself and your property... the next thing you have to "protect" your sh!t from these "pacific" protesters, is the damn government.
novenatorAug 7, 2011Submitter
Protests and strikes are *supposed to* cripple a country temporarily. That's sort of the point. By giving the authorities the tools to break this up at any cost, it is denying the will of the people. If you're a libertarian, you should join them, not wish you had a gun.
hyperziperAug 7, 2011
This was like the 6th consecutive protest, all the previous ones were "set free". This time the government didn't allow it in a certain high-traffic street; the government was open to talk with the protesters to have the protest take place at another street... but the protest organizers didn't even bother to talk to them. Thus the high number of "arrests". It's not the will of the people, it is the will of a few, enraged set of people; who don't even vote, because they don't even bother to vote. You wish you had a gun when your store is tore open, robbed and trashed.
I'm a libertarian, and I'm not going to join a group of people that want to nationalize the copper industry and make higher education state-owned. I prefer having a second amendment like I did back in the states and protect my property from criminals.
BTW, this wasn't a "free speech" protest at all... it was a protest in favor of state-owned higher education. The description is way off.
Oh, and also, I do participate in pro-gay protests, and other pro-civil liberties protests. I'm pretty much in favor of liberty.
novenatorAug 7, 2011Submitter
Well, I don't think we'll ever agree on a couple things. In my view, keeping higher education (all education in fact) out of the hands of private companies levels the playing field to give everyone, rich or poor a chance in life. Nationally owned universities work very well all over Europe, and it would work for Chile and the US as well.
As someone who has actually worked on many mines in my life, I can tell you horror stories about how private companies put lives literally in jeopardy to maximize profits. Not all of them, some really do make a good-faith effort, but they have to compete with the scumbags like Alliance Resource Partners, that anti-union coal mining company that was cited dozens of times until they finally killed a couple of people. http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Dotiki_Mine
Thus you understand why I'm not necessarily opposed to the government sticking it's nose into mining operations. Didn't Chile have a bad episode of miners getting trapped recently too?
elisevilleAug 11, 2011
I think they just 'celebrated' the 1 year anniversary. Where then, Pinera was flying high in the polls, now his popularity has fallen far and we could see, (if the media would show it) the biggest protests since the fall of the U.S. supported facist dictatorship. Fairly elected Pinera (remember, even Hitler entered politics legally) is not doing the will of the people.
Thank god the Chilean laws are designed to legally protect public protest and prevent 'libertarians' like hyperziper from toting their death machines.
particleman420Aug 8, 2011
"anonymous" isnt a person that lives in any 1 geographical region, they have no leadership, and they have no set agenda.