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Closed AccountJul 30, 2010
if we just legalized and truthfully informed our children President Calderon could control his country.
alanocuJul 30, 2010
I'm assuming you forgot the /s.
bluto36Jul 30, 2010
well ya, everyone remember how the mob just gave up in the thirty's,
i mean its not like they would get involved in politics or anything
ravagedsoulJul 30, 2010
(Alcohol) prohibition largely created organized crime. Without it, organized crime turned to ... other arbitrarily prohibited activities, like prostitution and drugs.
If we got rid of the morality laws, and simply legislated against actions that harmed *other* people, there would be nothing for organized crime to survive on.
uranium118Jul 31, 2010
I agree with you RavagedSoul in theory but "harmed" is a vague term and it doesn't only cover physical abuse in practice.
toxicshokJul 31, 2010
It is called an unintended consequence. Alcohol prohibition created the organization, but Alcohol legalization was unable to destroy them. However by 1980, most mob families were significantly weaker then they were in the 1950s due to effective police work.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
1b2aJul 30, 2010
The drug war in Mexico is not like the one in the US. They are criminals for the sake of being criminals, not for the weed.
botaxeroJul 30, 2010
Even if you legalized and taxed every drug, they should still smuggle in tax free ones. They do it with cigarettes now.
llanowarJul 30, 2010
The market for tax free stuff is FAR smaller than the market is for illegal stuff.
ravagedsoulJul 30, 2010
"Extra" taxes on cigarettes (or other "sins") is nothing more than a watered-down form of prohibition. That, and the fact that the crime related to tax evasion is utterly insignificant compared to the crime related to distribution.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
marx2kJul 31, 2010
Sorry, but I just haven't heard much of the cross-border tobacco wars where people are cutting off heads and stuff.
ohnoes1000Jul 31, 2010
This argument is rendered inaccurate by historical precedent. Look at the prohibition of alcohol and how quickly the profit motive was removed once prohibition was repealed. The same would presumably hold true for marijuana.
As for the sales tax argument, even if we don't realize sales tax revenue from legalization, we will still save BILLIONS in savings from costs associated enforcement and prison sentences by legalizing this one innocuous, yet socially controversial substance.
lnmagicJul 31, 2010
The article mentioned cocaine and meth, not marijuana.
neutron7Jul 31, 2010
Then the mobsters would just form military supply companies and bribe government officials to keep starting wars.
toxicshokJul 31, 2010
derp
joshreflekJul 31, 2010
urtoocool, your comment would destroy so many business that thrive on drugs being illegal, it wont happen until the corrupt are out of office.
wkrausmannJul 31, 2010
The US drug war is keeping drugs off the street and out of the hands of children. The drug war in Mexico is being fought with guns and grenades.
Since when does a foreign country need a US law to help control their people?Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
adc86Aug 1, 2010
No offense, but I think just about any kid under 21 will tell you it's waaay easier to get an eight than a fifth.
"Drugs off the street..."
hahaha... Right.
wkrausmannAug 2, 2010
Maybe I wasn't clear. The US drug war is not a physical war. It's not being fought with weapons but with propaganda.
lordskywalkerJul 30, 2010
Before this dudes body hit the ground, 100 other guys were ready to take his place. Prohibition is a complete and abysmal failure. As a result, we have perpetuated and increased the violence and criminals we were supposedly fighting against. Thank you, War on Drugs, I didn't know what I'd spend those billions of dollars on anyway.
Closed AccountJul 30, 2010
Don't count your chickens. Nobody said these people are invincible.
mra45Jul 31, 2010
@benjifowler Don't delude yourself, if there is one invincible thing in this world it is greed. A multi-billion dollar industry doesn't stop for one man.
dusanmalJul 31, 2010
Non-corrupt Govt. would than quickly kill those 100 other and anyone ready to take over from them... Until all the scum is either dead or too cowardly to continue. War on Drugs can be won if ready to take ruthless measures with intention to win it. Singapore is example, there if you have or deal drugs - fast track to death chamber. If seriously applied anywhere else, no matter how powerful current drug gangs are - problem solved within couple of years. More importantly, everyone interested in trade dead, not in jail or recovery facilities on taxpayer money.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
lordskywalkerJul 31, 2010
@dusanmal, Seriously are you crazy? Look at Portugal: legal drugs = lower STDs, lower violent crime, good effects across the board. Anyone who would support a "war on drugs" would support alcohol prohibition. It is near unanimously agreed that prohibition of alcohol was a complete and abysmal failure by every conceivable measure and this is no different, just under the guise of a different name.
brucealmightyJul 31, 2010
In the drug cartels this is what's known as an 'upward mobility opportunity'....everybody on the ladder takes one step up. And oh yeah, there is no pension plan in this line of work.
zpanzerJul 31, 2010
Now, I'm not saying it's my job to make a choice for anybody, but wouldn't it just be easier if people stopped buying drugs and supporting major crime lords in Mexico and what not? I like how people constantly blame the government for wasting money, when it's themselves that actually is a part of the problem when they keep buying them. Stop buying drugs, stop supporting crime lords, and stop acting like drug users ain't a part of the problem.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
johnnysoftwareJul 31, 2010
Jackpot. The people buying drugs are not part of the problem, they are the whole problem.
Something like 30 thousand people have been killed in Mexico by drug dealers in the past several years. That is pretty harsh.
Buying drugs from drug dealers lets them buy bullets. It lets they buy off police & soldiers. It lets them hire henchmen & hit men.
If Disney was using their movie profits to murder little kids, I would stop watching their movies. If banana growers were killing banana eaters and other banana eaters, I would stop buying bananas.
Yet it never occurs to the drug addled "just legalize it" crowd to "just stop using it". Gotta say, addition is a terrible thing. Pretty self-centered, if you ask me.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
juliusthecatJul 31, 2010
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zpanzerJul 31, 2010
This is not about America, or your rights. It's about you making a choice of buying goods that are sold by crime lords that f**ks up other people lives in another country then America. Please look beyond your borders, America ain't the only country in the world that matters.
juliusthecatAug 1, 2010
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martalliJul 30, 2010
I hope our neighbors to the south can finally regain the rule of law. The last thing the US needs is for this chaos to spread north.
marx2kJul 30, 2010
"I hope our neighbors to the south can finally regain the rule of law."
1 drug lord = a drop in the ocean with 50 waiting to take their place.
"The last thing the US needs is for this chaos to spread north."
Too late.
impellerJul 30, 2010
Sadly... true
adc86Aug 1, 2010
Actually, not true at all. Some of the safest areas in the US are along the US-Mexico border. El Paso has an extremely low crime rate. Detroit? Not so much.
FUD sucks.
(Unless you're talking about the violence involved with paramilitary raids on non-violent offenders, and innocent dogs... That is very real)
johnnysoftwareJul 31, 2010
Dude, where have you been? Articles came out months ago saying that the Mexican cartels now dominate marijuana distribution in the United States through their connections with Latino gangs.
You have not read in the news of local youth killed by Mexican drug dealers during the course of "drug deals gone bad" in the past few years? You must live in a sheltered county, if you haven't.
Anyway, why do you think the drug lords were smuggling millions of illegal aliens into the US via their tunnels and coyotes?
One, they needed to infiltrate a lot of gang members here. Two, they needed to smuggle their product in. Three, the rest of the people provide "cover" for their agents. Fourth, they can always blackmail the people they smuggled in to do anything since they are here illegally and the drug cartel knows who they are.
koirakuenJul 30, 2010
thats what happens when u sell weed, he will burn in hell
botaxeroJul 30, 2010
No, that's what happens when you shoot at people with guns.
meribianJul 31, 2010
That's just some troll. Check the comment history. Just laugh at him for having a nickname that means he's a weeaboo and then ignore him.
sniperhareJul 30, 2010
Good, one down many more to go.
spyd3rwebJul 31, 2010
two more have already replaced him.
jaxxbatAug 6, 2010
changes nothing
russ3Jul 30, 2010
sounds like the army killed him because they had to distance themselves form him
MitchPaigeJul 30, 2010
I was thinking something similar. Most likely the Military killed him because they are in the pay of another cartel.
bloodwineJul 31, 2010
I thought the military and Federal government weren't too bad corruption-wise. It is the local governments and police that are corrupt. I do not live in Mexico so someone living there can correct me if I am wrong.
MitchPaigeJul 31, 2010
They have caught entire Mexican Army Units working for Cartels.
patolucasJul 31, 2010
I live in México and can testify that Bloodwine is correct, military and federal government have some bad apples here and there but generally you can trust them. To give you an idea, in Monterrey the military has a hotline so you call them instead the police if you see criminal activity.
kornstalxJul 30, 2010
"As the soldiers entered, he fired at them, killing the leader of the raid, according to a statement from the defense ministry. The soldiers fired back, killing him." You'd think they'd give the point-man more body armor. I mean hell, why not just put the #1 guy on any MOUT type operation in a bomb-suit.
patolucasJul 31, 2010
You are mostly correct, except on the inglorious death, that man is being worshiped as a war hero here on México. Sad we had to lose a fine man (from what I've heard) to kill a scumbag.
Closed AccountJul 30, 2010
It doesn't matter too much. Actually, killing the big guys makes the violence worse if anything. Because once someone in power is taken out it causes a power struggle as the rest of the guys try to fill his position.
iamr0guearmyJul 30, 2010
Mexican Hydras, eh? Who's gonna play Hercules in this one.
akairennJul 30, 2010
I'm not aware of Kevin Sorbo doing anything of late. Maybe he can pick up the role again.
eurynom0sJul 31, 2010
GI JOSE!
bigdoglj52Jul 31, 2010
So they all kill each other now trying to get power? Sounds like a plan.
oxdeltaxoJul 31, 2010
By killing a boss of a gang who consolidated power they have now just given that power to his sub-ordinates who will likely cause more problems for everyone in the power struggle. Instead of breaking up one gang they've created 5 more smaller gangs, who will likely make more trouble than the one ever did.The drug war drives the price of drugs up by creating scarcity. The harder they try to clamp down the more money the criminals will make regardless of collateral damage.
punkcatJul 31, 2010
cite the movies used as reference in this post.
johnnysoftwareJul 31, 2010
True. The Mexican drug cartels are very large, have a lot of personnel, and a very large payroll to pay out each month. The leadership might be like a PEZ dispener. Pop one off the top, and a another one comes up instantly to replace it.
To appease its Mexican neighbors, stabilize the some of the other drug-involved nations in the southern Americas, and prevent the swift infiltration of politics/police/military by corruption, the United States will have to take a strong defensive move against drug buyers/users to stop the flow of money soon.
Mexican officials and Mexican citizens have already requested that the US staunch the flow of money and guns into Mexico from the US.
The takeover of marijuana distribution in the US took only a few years. I do not think anybody expected it to happen that swiftly. Using what has occurred in Mexico, and what _always_ happens with organized crime, the current target is US politicians/police/military. Don't be shocked, this is what organized crime gangs always do. They are not truly organized crime if they do not corrupt people in the government.
Given how swiftly they took over the US drug distribution channels, it seems likely they have been quietly hitting the corruption avenues hard, fast, and silently for some time. How effective will they be? Take a look at Mexico.
When someone in government comes to the realization that the US is heading to become just like Mexico, they are going to swiftly look around and see what levers they can pull in the US with survival mode being the primary state of mind.
The level here is the drug buyers. They have to stop they money flow. It is life or death basically. To the guys reading this who say, "but I wasn't hurting anyone" - read the news. You are hurting a lot of people, not to mention there are 30K corpses in Mexico, largely due to you and your peers.
The dealers likely have fake identities, will lawyer up with great representation at their gang/cartel's expense, are hardened criminals, and will form stronger bonds with the Mexican Mafia and/or their gangs in prison.
You, on the other hand - when they arrest YOU and throw you in the slammer, will scare the crap out of your circle of friends. They are going to quickly rethink what is fun and what is not. The mafia is not going to pay for your legal defense. You are not going to bond with a crime syndicate while you are in prison. You are not going to become a worse threat in jail, nor are you going to be hard to put there. And while you are there, you are not going to be spending money on drugs.
It is a war and you are on the wrong side. Providing material support to the enemy. Look it up. Read paragraph 2: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124012925&ft=1&f=1003
A couple of weeks ago, a C4 (industrial explosive) bomb was detonated on a Mexican street. Drug cartels stole in March large amounts of industrial explosives, a lot of which but not all was subsequently discovered. Exactly the type of incident that occurred was predicted to be the goal.
The drug cartel is now a terrorist organization, just like Al-Qaeda the drug running Taliban who kills troops, detonates bombs on the street to kill innocent civilians and law enforcement officers, kidnaps and beheads local policemen. Look at their crimes now. You cannot tell them apart.
What do you think would happen to you right now if you bought something from Al-Qaeada? What crimes has Al-Qaeda done that the Mexican drug cartels have not done?
- killed troops
- killed police
- detonated industrial explosives to kill law enforcement personnel & innocent civilian passers-by
- killed religious leaders
- killed large groups of children
- corrupted officials through bribery and extortion
- infiltrated the United States
- faked identities of agents sent into the United States
- non-uniformed combatants
The war on terror in southwest Asia may be spinning down. You cannot win an occupation, public support is waning, the cost of highly loyal lives is high, the fuel costs are staggering, the supply lines are tenuous and go through dangerous territory.
But he US is already staffed up to fight a war and has the logistics, intelligence, computing, communications, personnel, and leadership to do it. The intrusion across a border by a deadly enemy certainly counts as a national defense/security issue. The terrorist style bomb attack recently is probably the kicker in terms of reality an moral justification for war in the real sense, not the rhetorical sense.
Three arguments you cannot make now are: a) Mexican drug cartels have nothing to do with drugs, b) Mexican drug cartels are not running the drug trade inside the US particularly marijuana, c) Mexican drug cartels at least some of them are not a terrorist organization.
I would seriously think about finding a new form of recreation, if you know what I mean.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
impellerJul 30, 2010
Drug lords dead by the army are always victims of betrayal.
Someone else had taken over his place months before he died.
kempachiJul 31, 2010
I'm sure you mean "victims".
Closed AccountJul 30, 2010
Reckon at some point, all the young male idiots working for the cartels will eventually decide that the risk of getting their heads blown off isn't worth the money? It's happened before.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
kennykljJul 30, 2010
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Closed AccountJul 30, 2010
Time to fill the void.
zeraJul 30, 2010
This actually isn't news. Gus had him killed about 2 months ago for not giving Gus full control of his own territory.
Gus doesn't take any s**t.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
koikomoruJul 30, 2010
This may not be the right thread to post this in, but I started to wonder about the Taliban and what is going on in Mexico. It seems to me that Mexico would be the perfect place for the iraqi intelligence to set up camp and recruit. They are so close to the USA, and because border patrol is so bad, they could easily start to slip un-noticed into the states. Even though this drug lord has been slain, as one user here said, "Before this dudes body hit the ground, 100 other guys were ready to take his place."-LordSkywalker.
Who's to say that any one of the 100 don't have some connections to other terrorist cells across seas... /end conspiracy theory? Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
ronpauliskingJul 31, 2010
the Taliban are only based out of afghanistan and Pakistan, Al Qaeda would be the ones to set up in Mexico, but they for the most part try to recruit people through the internet, so they would as just as much recruit in america as mexico. thought you might like the info.
Closed AccountJul 31, 2010
Actually it would be easier to sneak in from Canada.
joot2112Jul 31, 2010
And like, they have brown skin, too, which gives them great terrist potential. And the Catholics down there are already used to blind religious fanaticism so they're only a small hop away from being recruited by Islamic militants.
mbtriaJul 30, 2010
Sounds like Mexico is going the way of Iraq and Afghanistan. Every week a major al Qaeda leader is killed there. Now its drug lords in Mexico.
jaxxbatAug 6, 2010
There is always another lowlife to take down..
Closed AccountJul 30, 2010
I'd imagine it went a little like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-leaJrm_I0M
d4rthv4derJul 31, 2010
He gets shot like 20 times and he is still standing total bs. Excellent movie thoug
nullcodesJul 30, 2010
Criminal enterprises thrive on an air of invulnerability. They collapse then that gets shattered.
kettekJul 31, 2010
one less illegal
aplusjimagesJul 31, 2010
You can't be illegal in your own country you dumb f**king redneck.
stroodlenoodleJul 31, 2010
f**k's sake. How the f**k...how the f**k are you even able to use a keyboard let alone post anything on digg?
tomleykisJul 31, 2010
Find out who the family of the drug lords are, where their children go to school, their wives, and use them
marx2kJul 31, 2010
Who are you talking to?
punkcatJul 31, 2010
yes attack the drug lords where it hurts them the most, their hearts.
factorof13Jul 31, 2010
Use them for what? Nevermind.. I don't think I want to know.
thalboyJul 31, 2010
There will be hell to pay for this. I'm sure those cartels will return the favor 10x on the government. There are much better ways of destroying the cartels.
marx2kJul 31, 2010
I'm pretty sure other cartels see removing competition as a positive.
thalboyJul 31, 2010
Perhaps. I think they'll see it as an attack on their own and will retaliate, violently. We won't have to wait for long to find out.
marx2kJul 31, 2010
Do you think Oracle sees an anti-trust suit against Microsoft as an attack on their own? Most likely the hit on this drug lord is on order from one of the other synndicates
alvisparsleyJul 31, 2010
Dang. He was a real good guy. Gonna miss him.
nationalistJul 31, 2010
/s?
ronpauliskingJul 31, 2010
you have to legalize all drugs to insure the drug trade ends, other wise they'll just move on to harder substances.
zpanzerJul 31, 2010
or people could stop buying the drugs. Just sayin'
ronpauliskingJul 31, 2010
people could have stopped buying alcohol in the 30's how'd that work out?
brad3378Jul 31, 2010
Why does it seem like there are more people in favor of legalizing hard drugs than there are people in favor of making prescription drugs available over the counter?
Wouldn't it make more sense to make over the counter drugs more widely available than hard drugs?
ryanwbJul 31, 2010
I had a dude at the mall try to sell me fireworks and cartons of cigarettes out of the trunk of his car. They will just continue to traffic whatever will be profitable. Legalizing weed will just move them on to meth or whatever else they can make money on.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
marx2kJul 31, 2010
So therefore everything that can be sold should be banned.
eurynom0sJul 31, 2010
Including computers. Elsewise we might waste all our time on the internet.
sicsempertyrannJul 31, 2010
Yeah the drug problem in Mexico is solved. The drug lord died, guess that's that.
pandawaJul 31, 2010
oh good, now someone more ruthless and with more intelligence will take his place. Drug cartels are like the Hydra, cut off one heads, two grow back.
johnnysoftwareJul 31, 2010
The weakness of such a huge organization is its payroll. Interrupt that and it does not matter that it has a PEZ dispenser for a head.
Simple flow dynamics. If inflow < outflow then underrun_condition;
What happens if Mexican cartels cannot make payments to members, corrupted officials, informants, suborned military officials, and policemen that are in their pocket for 4-5 months?
Probably, a whole lot of stuff. Some of which has to happen in order to shut the organizations down and break them up.
pandawaJul 31, 2010
uh...they have plenty of money.
freetalkliveJul 31, 2010
I am sure that he will be replaced by someone as bad or badder.
It wil never end until legalzation takes place.
nationalistJul 31, 2010
i hope there's a special place in hell reserved for those guys...
nationalistJul 31, 2010
4 guys want the cartel people to go to heaven lol :P
tomgfromcanadaJul 31, 2010
oh no, who will i get my weed from now?
thatoneguy247Jul 31, 2010
For everyone saying that Calderon should legalize drugs to end the problem:
The problem doesn't stem from drug use in Mexico, it comes from the drug trade internationally, especially to America. Legalizing drugs might help demonopolize the drug trade, but it won't change the fact that it is very territorial and a bigger problem than just one country. Some sort of communal action/agreement between countries might do something...
johnnysoftwareJul 31, 2010
Mexico decriminalized possession of tiny amounts of every type of abused drug I ever heard of and offered liberal drug treatment for non-incorrigible offenders.
It did not work. One fly in the ointment was that drug cartels sent hit squads to a couple of the rehab centers that killed every living soul in them. True, those people stopped using drugs but the politicians and the drug reform groups' expectation was that the addicts would be alive when they finished treatment. Cartels had other ideas. They obviously do not have much respect for their consumers, either.
The major failing was even more basic and less ironic. The cartels have gotten even more insanely violent and deadly in the 12 months since the decriminalization law passed.
The legalize-it crowd has totally overlooked the fact that decriminalization has already occurred in Mexico, and since that time the drug cartels have become even more violent, vengeful, and hey very terrorist-like.
* Decriminalization of possession of precise tiny amounts of a dozen or so illegal drugs does not mean you have a "green light" to drive down to Tijuana and buy drugs now, as just a little thought would come up with a number of things that could go wrong. For another thing, in May the US State Department put out a bulletin advising Americans to be cautious in Mexico, avoid illegal activities, and that Tijuana and Juarez were the two cities where the most Americans were being killed.
myon87Jul 31, 2010
"The legalize-it crowd has totally overlooked the fact that decriminalization has already occurred in Mexico, and since that time the drug cartels have become even more violent, vengeful, and hey very terrorist-like."
Decriminalization of drugs? No they have not. Real decriminalization, as in you're free to grow the natural plant itself and use it for whatever reason, in both the US and Mexico, will solve the issue. The drug cartels in Mexico still have a free pass in the drug world if this legislazion does not pass.
hastyboomJul 31, 2010
WHO CARES
digg1990Jul 31, 2010
I don't think I've ever read comments about a story without at least one person saying "Who cares?".
seltaeb4Jul 31, 2010
Cocaine Barons: Dark Lords of the Sniff.
cowboy1015Jul 31, 2010
very nice.
drsnugglebunnyJul 31, 2010
Working for the man from Sinaloa....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izylx4HT25Q
factorof13Jul 31, 2010
You want to solve the drug problem? Give LSD and a few bong rips to all the world leaders and let them listen to The Beatles Revolver. Problem solved. Drugs will be legal the next day.
Closed AccountJul 31, 2010
There has been a lot of speculation that the Mexican government protects the Sinaloa Federation headed by Chapo Guzman. There has been slight evidence of this when Chapo's wife was arrested and left go due to lack of evidence a few months ago. The release was a shock since everybody knew that she has a lot of information about the cartel. Also Military crackdowns have focused more on other cartels instead of the Sinaloa Federation. Supposedly this guy was going to start his own empire. Chapo didn't approve and revealed the location to his friends in the Mexican government. This type of execution, I say this because they military was not there to capture him, was conducted the same way on Arturo Beltran Leyva. Leyva used to be a partner of the Sinaloa Federation until recently. He was also executed in a similar fashion late last year. Also Sinaloa is also the home state of Calderon.
One interesting thing to note about these old heads is that they had have a "code". Lately the guys that are taking over the cartels don't give a flying f**k. That's why we see more people getting their heads chopped off, hearts taken out, and now car bombs. It's going to get worse.
Legalize it.
guitarjunkieJul 31, 2010
The last statement you made about Sinaloa being the home of the president makes this scream sacrifice to placate the masses.
Closed AccountJul 31, 2010
Oops the disregard my statement about the President of Mexico born in Sinaloa. He was actually born in Michoacan.
aplusjimagesJul 31, 2010
I'd be concerned for the family of the guys who killed him.
johnnysoftwareJul 31, 2010
Given that the last hero in the drug war who died while making an apprehension had his whole family executed mafia style a short time after his death, yeah.
Things have really gotten more violent and vengeful since Mexico passed its decriminalization legislation a year ago. Now the drug cartels are killing off family members of people they do not like.
bigp3rmJul 31, 2010
All this does is it creates a vacuum. The next in line steps into those shoes. Then it's back to business and usual. Haven't we learned this after decades and billions wasted??
Legalize, regulate and educate. End the sham called War on Drugs.
johnnysoftwareJul 31, 2010
Mexico decriminalized 12 months ago, or had you not noticed?
Mexico created a rehab alternative path to incarceration as part of the law that was passed, or had you not heard?
Mexican drug cartels moved into the rehab clinics and ruthlessly executed every soul inside - didn't you know?
The decriminalization did not have the effect of weakening or mollifying the drug cartels. Now they are blowing up bombs on the street, exactly like Al-Qaeada. They're like pfiesteria after a rainstorm. Deadlier than ever. They have morphed into a full on regional terrorist organization. Unfortunately, their base of operations area overlaps our country and crosses our border.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
bigp3rmJul 31, 2010
Who funds the cartels? Not the Mexicans. It's the people here in the states that do drugs. You will never stop people from doing drugs. No matter how long you lock them up. It's an absolutely ridiculous post you just made.
guitarjunkieJul 31, 2010
This is a superficial victory in the grand scheme of things. Look up Rodolfo Torre Cantu. He was a leading Mexican politician who opposed the cartels that was gunned down while out in a motorcade about a month ago. This was done by a completely separate cartel, the Zetas. Okay, you get a single leader out of the hundreds of cells within the Sinaloa cartel, but these drug gangs are like hydras. You can't just cut 1 head off and declare victory. There will be 10 other people just as willing and most likely more vicious that will take his place.
Closed AccountJul 31, 2010
A minor victory isn't necessarily superficial. You have to start somewhere, and each win provides a boost in morale for what will be a long, difficult slog.
whysocerealsJul 31, 2010
Pics or it didn't happen.
Drug lords are notorious for faking their own deaths.
Mexican military is notorious for taking bribes.
Closed AccountJul 31, 2010
Am I the only one cheering for the drug lords?
johnnysoftwareJul 31, 2010
No, other criminals are too.
overdrivenJul 31, 2010
You idiots saying that legalizing pot is the answer...this cartel's main business is COCAINE. They smuggle multi-ton shipments of it into the US on a constant basis.
guitarjunkieJul 31, 2010
You're simply paraphrasing the article. While cocaine may have a higher street value initially, they have to organize a route and purchase it from the Columbians. Marijuana growing, harvesting, and distribution is completely under the control of Mexican cartels, including several grow operations under Mexican control right here in the good 'ol USA. Marijuana profits account for over half of cartel profits according to congressional and law enforcement research. Legalizing and taxing it would lead to an initial outburst, but what happened to Al Capone and the rest of the bootleggers after Prohibition ended?
Closed AccountJul 31, 2010
They took over the Teamsters & expanded into the distribution business. Same criminal enterprise, different day.
johnnysoftwareJul 31, 2010
I just read an article a few weeks ago that said that marijuana sales is where most of their revenue comes from now. I also read that the Mexican drug cartels have taken over control of the majority of marijuana distribution in the United States.
And everyone knows the gangs have been now just smuggling their marijuana into the United States from Mexico, but also growing it on US parkland. American citizens have been killed when they happened to set foot in the wrong area in their own public parks.
Clearing the land and cultivating/harvesting the product harms the land too. These are areas where nature is not to be disturbed, specifically set aside for non-development and no cultivation.
Just another way the Mexican cartels are screwing Americans to make potheads happy. If you can quit anytime, then now would be a good time.
shutupflandersJul 31, 2010
He was only doing the drug smuggling that Americans won't do.
ubitendoJul 31, 2010
One druglord down, only 100 more + their subordinates left....
inactiveuserJul 31, 2010
Hydra
hastyboomJul 31, 2010
its just pointless
nitrojunky24Jul 31, 2010
and he has probably already been replaced so what good did that do you?
gagewhyldsJul 31, 2010
Huzzah!