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davidnivenAug 15, 2010
I would have never imagined that Obama had a lock on the felon vote. Wow.
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dirtyfriesAug 15, 2010
You're so terrible at trolling. Why do you bother?
smacksawAug 15, 2010
I actually agree. All of the disgraced Republicans and Bernie Madoff-types seem like Republican supporters.
creationismlolAug 15, 2010
Well I'm not surprised that the freepers changed their names (and some old ones still there). What yahoo group are you guys using to game the front page now?
brad3378Aug 15, 2010
Brought to you by today's sponsor - the For-Profit Prison Industrial Complex.
lolcoelacanthAug 15, 2010
and the letter "C" for "corporate take over of the American government"
redditoAug 15, 2010
For-Profit prisons don't want these people getting jobs. They want them desperate from lack of finding housing and employment, so therefore their only avenue is to intentionally commit another crime so they get sent back to prison.
For-Profit prisons love repeat customers.
ryebryeAug 15, 2010
I thought felons couldn't vote?
samsmartjrAug 15, 2010
It depends on the state. Each state has different laws regarding felons having the right to vote.
cakecakecake2Aug 15, 2010
Spindig..... really?
why are the digg patriots not all banned?
cogieAug 15, 2010
Well...do something to incite a felony, you are gonna have problems. Probably shouldn't have been doing something that stupid...
felidaeusAug 15, 2010
Pardon me for asking, but isn't this a good thing?
To start with, because of the US's criminal law system, someone proven innocent can still be looking at years before they can not check that little box.
Furthermore, how are you supposed to try and move on with life if the system is designed to NOT let you do so? How can you become a productive member of society when society is determined to keep you in, what is really just another type of jail?
shutupflandersAug 15, 2010
You honestly think they can't move on with their life if they're not allowed to vote? And that's the same thing as being in jail? I'm sure you think this statement is profound, but you're just being a drama queen. Spending 10 seconds in the voting booth every 4 years is NOT going to make you a productive member of society. Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
felidaeusAug 15, 2010
I had a whole reply written up for this, but deleted it.
I don't hold discussions with obvious trolls.
RTFA
shutupflandersAug 15, 2010
Oh, so you're referring to the "have you ever been convicted of a felony" check box on job applications? Sorry. Employers have a right to know that.
felidaeusAug 15, 2010
What about housing? They might buy the house and then steal it off the foundations?
If an employer is so worried about hiring felons, they can perform a background check, it's not hard.
It's easy to say that things should be kept as they are when you're not the one who will never get a job again because he smoked up once in university.
It's called empathy, look it up.
smacksawAug 15, 2010
shutupflanders, sometimes "Digg" is "digging oneself a deeper hole"...when a person has paid their debt to society, honest folk believe that is it.
I bet you think double jeopardy laws are a bad thing.
shutupflandersAug 15, 2010
>> They might buy the house and then steal it off the foundations?
Or rob the neighbors, or default on his rent, or vandalize the house, or molest the neighborhood children. Depends on what kind of criminal we're talking about.
>> If an employer is so worried about hiring felons they can perform a background check, it's not hard.
Why should they have to? Those take time and money. A check box is a thousand times easier. If the employer didn't care, they wouldn't have asked in the first place.
>> you're not the one who will never get a job again because he smoked up once in university.
1) Smoking pot is not a felony.
2) I'm also not the one committing crimes. It may surprise you to know that companies prefer employees who follow the rules.
>> It's called empathy.
In the words of Batman, criminals thrive on your empathy.
>> when a person has paid their debt to society, honest folk believe that is it
Past behavior is an indication of future behavior. Just because they've paid their debt doesn't mean they're trustworthy. Most felons are repeat offenders. Only the most naive of people would actually trust them.
guntarioAug 15, 2010
You would think so on the surface, but the problem is our justice system. Going to prison is not a place where prisoners go and do their time, but they go there and are corrupted beyond belief. Instead of being rehabilitated when they go to prison, it seems they come out with serious problems.
Business owners have a responsibility to workers to keep their place of business safe to work. They also try to minimize risk. The owners of business are acting in their best interest, and the interest of their employees.
Closed AccountAug 15, 2010
As a convicted felon I have to agree with this. I got messed up with drugs years ago and have served all my time and stayed clean for years but checking the felony box is a sure fire way to make sure you dont have a job or place to live. While on probation because i had no other options for housing i ended up living with a old friend that was still shooting meth in front of me every single day i was there. I am lucky that i do not struggle with what was an addiction so it did nothing to persuade me to use again.
As I have grown and matured I am now a hard working, very reliable, honest as the day is long, very personable and will do anything for anybody. My remodeling skills are impressive and span most of the building trades. Isnt that what is wanted in an employee? yet none of that matters if i have to check the," i made a mistake years ago" box every time i apply for a job or place to live.
Society want felons to stop committing crimes but all too often our options are so limited that many felons have no other option. Society has to start giving people a chance if they dont want crime and the associated taxes that are needed to house inmates.
guntarioAug 15, 2010
I agree with this on the surface, but again, it is not the fault of the business owners protecting their interests, but the fault lies with our justice system. First of all, non-violent offenders should be in prison. That's just ridiculous. But the fact is, non-violent offenders consistently go to prison and come out violent offenders.
shutupflandersAug 15, 2010
They should make t-shirts. Convicted Felons for Obama!
Closed AccountAug 15, 2010
convicted felon could also be someone who got caught with a joint.... you say convicted felon like they are all horrible people
shutupflandersAug 15, 2010
Smoking pot is not a felony.
Closed AccountAug 15, 2010
some states it still is a felony... federal level its a felony....
use a pipe? thats a felony in most states as well..
plus possession very much used to be a felony almost everywhere... and all those who got convicted still have it on their records..... marijuana laws have only recently begun to be less strict...
seltaeb4Aug 15, 2010
Is the Washington Times still publishing?
Rev. Moon just can't find it in his heart to pull the plug, I guess.
stavrogin2Aug 15, 2010
It's in bankruptcy, due to Moonie church politics. It's never actually made a profit, so it's had to rely on being kept afloat by Moonie laundered money and now Moon's sons are fighting over power. Justin Moon, in charge of Asian operations, is refusing to fund the Washington Times, run by Preston Moon.
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2010/050110.html
odkinAug 15, 2010
Forget "Escape from New York" and forget the Mexican border - when are we going to build a wall to contain the criminals of every age, sex and color who have completely overrun DC?
The Founders were smart to establish DC as it's own non-state zone with no congressional representation. They knew that proximity to so many politicians, especially ones handing out money, would make the local populace a bunch of dangerous leeches.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
shutupflandersAug 15, 2010
I don't want convicted felons voting. If you're committing felonies, that probably means you're not very good at making decisions.
falloozaAug 15, 2010
no. no it isnt.
Closed AccountAug 15, 2010
the guy smoking the joint made a much more rational decision than the guy who drank the 5th of vodka....
marijuana is against the law.... but so is speeding.... which puts more people at risk? Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
shutupflandersAug 15, 2010
We're talking about convicted felons. Smoking pot is not a felony.
Closed AccountAug 15, 2010
ok well yes it is a felony at the federal level and in a few states it still is a felony..... a few more its a felony for subsequent offences....
also lets step it up a notch... suppose you smoke out of a pipe instead... that pipe is a felony in most states...
nepidaeAug 15, 2010
This isn't Australia, why do we want felons to affect our political system?
stavrogin2Aug 15, 2010
That's just dumb.
rochesterrificAug 15, 2010
But if we restrict felons then who will the GOP run for office?
diggerlaterAug 15, 2010
Getting a felony is a big f**king deal. You're going to be branded a criminal for the rest of your life, and most states won't even let you vote, ever again. Sorry that's just how it is, it's just part of the punishment for getting caught committing a serious crime.I don't think that an employer or housing agent wanting to know the truth about a person's history in any way "violates the constitution" or is unethical at all.
ravagedsoulAug 15, 2010
Many non-violent offenses are felonies; in fact, you could be convicted of a felony for doing something that you didn't know was illegal, or didn't even know you were doing.
People would be wise to fight such charges to avoid the felony conviction, but people make bad decisions, and get bad advice. If the prosecutor offers you a felony conviction, but no jail time, you might just jump at the chance (regardless of guilt.)Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
smacksawAug 15, 2010
If it was part of the Constitution, the Founding Fathers would have given us guidance one way or another. I truly detest people like you who invoke the Constitution and know nothing about it nor add anything to Constitutional debate and progress.
blarg2003Aug 15, 2010
Spindig favourites:
Former D.C. felons seek to "Ban the Box" on forms
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The great Obama land grab
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Obama demands internet records, in secret...no court review
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Closed AccountAug 15, 2010
s**t, did you notice the left wing propaganda articles 2 days ago. WTF is with digg now. I much rather the time when we were computer nerds instead of political d**kh**ds.
wilf_brimAug 15, 2010
This is part of the general punishment for being convicted of a felony. You lose the right to vote in most jurisdictions unless pardoned. That is supposed to be a deterrent to crime. You don't get to vote. You don't get to purchase or possess firearms. You will probably never be able to hold a medical license, law license, or similar.
smacksawAug 15, 2010
This is not a concept to understand. Good, moral people are those who understand that once a felon has served their sentence, they are free. They have paid their debt to society. Recidivism? I thought we judged people as individuals. Or do we only group people when we don't like them?
It's all quite simple. Asking if someone was a convict, especially in the context of what this article mentions (RTFA if you haven't, don't be like shutupflanders) is wrong. Now, do you want to ask if someone is CURRENTLY under the supervision of the judicial system? Fine. But when it's done, it's done. It's highly unwise to think that people will abandon their criminal past if we force them to be defined by it for the rest of their lives.
Closed AccountAug 15, 2010
As a convicted felon I have to agree with this. I got messed up with drugs years ago and have served all my time and stayed clean for years but checking the felony box is a sure fire way to make sure you dont have a job or place to live. While on probation because i had no other options for housing i ended up living with a old friend that was still shooting meth in front of me every single day i was there. I am lucky that i do not struggle with what was an addiction so it did nothing to persuade me to use again.
As I have grown and matured I am now a hard working, very reliable, honest as the day is long, very personable and will do anything for anybody. My remodeling skills are impressive and span most of the building trades. Isnt that what is wanted in an employee? yet none of that matters if i have to check the," i made a mistake years ago" box every time i apply for a job or place to live.
Society wants felons to stop committing crimes but all too often our options are so limited that many felons have no other option. Society has to start giving people a chance if they dont want crime and the associated taxes that are needed to house inmates.
exfelongirlOct 22, 2010
I have been writing blogs about Ban the Box for almost a year now. I wrote a blog about the organization Flip the Script in Detroit, MI. Then I was contacted my the Organization All of Us or None asking me to start my own chapter in Columbia, SC. All of Us or None's number one campaign is "Ban the Box".
Yesterday I had an interview on the Journey of Hope Podcast with Rodney Mathers. We talked about "Ban the Box" as well. You can hear our conversation by visiting my blog http://www.exfelongirl.com/. Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions about starting your own chapter in your area.