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absolutelytrueSep 9, 2010
lolololol.. oh wait.. they're serious.
badqatSep 9, 2010Submitter
Believe it or not, webOS is a beautiful, functional platform. Only thing that has held it back is a lack of decent hardware.
I'd love a decent tablet based on webOS. Up to HP to deliver it.
absolutelytrueSep 9, 2010
Indeed, but my mind wanders back to the HP machine I had that lasted all of three months.
amaoicanSep 9, 2010
One data point ought to be enough for anybody.
absolutelytrueSep 9, 2010
Indeed, but my mind wanders back to the new HP machine I had that lasted all of three months.
sabri_sivanSep 9, 2010
@absolutelytrue precisely captured my reaction just as I read the title of the article!
mabrouk2009Sep 9, 2010
Fierce competition between companies
badqatSep 9, 2010Submitter
lol...well, Apple and Android have a huge head start. HP needs to get cracking if they're going to play in this game.
rudegarSep 9, 2010
huge as in all those android tablets already on sale?
johnnysoftwareSep 9, 2010
dugg for sage sarcasm
Apple just opened the chapter of this generation of this larger form factor of hand held super pad computers earlier this year. HP's Slate has yet to ship, and Microsoft's pared down Windows 7 so far does not seem to have appeared on computers which can operate more than two ours without draining the battery.
Apple and HP took the approach of engineering a new UI from the ground up for handheld appliances.
Microsoft's approach is unique in that it is trying to squeeze a desktop OS with very little change in very little time into new hand held devices which may or may not exist for it yet.
Microsoft's approach may or may not be validated, depending on whether they can really make batteries and UIs and stuff work on this new platform paradigm without fundamental, time-consuming re-engineering and major R&D effort. It's a high risk proposition, I think; a gamble.
HP and Apple have already passed the gambling stage, mostly, in that they both have true appliance operating systems already developed. Apple iPad started to sell well; just has to sustain those sales. HP will be in its sales phase next, now that the engineering sounds like it is done.
computergeekmatSep 9, 2010
You mean just like WebOS 1.0? We all know how that went.
johnomazzSep 9, 2010
People need to stop 'competing with apple' and focus on making their own product that is both good and unique in their own way. I feel that is why Android has done so well. They have done their own thing instead of trying to copy apple or beat them in certain catagories. I think Android is far ahead of iOS now.
fusongSep 9, 2010
i agree...
badqatSep 9, 2010Submitter
I agree. Android is a solid product, and it got me to leave iOS. Haven't regretted it one bit, and I absolutely love my Android kit.
Everyone is focused on being the "iPhone killer" - only thing that's going to kill the iPhone is Apple itself, and I doubt they're going to do that.
But webOS is a sweet little operating system. And more competition is a good thing in both the mobile and tablet computing space.
hipmanSep 9, 2010
Besides, you can't compete against the Apple brand, regardless of your product.
westinlohneSep 9, 2010
You're wrong.
brallsplpSep 10, 2010
What are you talking about "Android has done their own thing"? Android is a result of if not a complete copy of the iPhone! Can you show us any other smart phone OS and business model out there that more closely resembles that which the iPhone brought to the smart phone market? Unlimited data plans, awesome and very usable touch screen interface, App store that allows 100s of thousands of useful apps to be installed and used (remember what that was like with carriers before the iPhone??? when Apps were a foreign concept), etc.....
No, Google did what they always do best, take something already being done and try to do it better, in this case they did the only thing they could, give their OS away to device makers who didn't want to continue to lose sales to Apple, device makers who knew that they themselves couldn't build a mobile OS with the App ecosystem that would be required to make their devices relevant in the new iPhone driven mobile smart phone market.
Google didn't invent search, they didn't invent keyword advertising as a business model, they didn't even invent the affiliate model that they use with adsense, they didn't invent free online office software (there are even better options out there than Google Docs), they didn't invent free internet email, etc.. I can go on forever but I will spare you all.
fusongSep 9, 2010
more competitions will only benefit users
cedelepSep 9, 2010
That is a good comment
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EndSep 9, 2010
People that monitor digg use iphones...see where that has gotten us?
johnnysoftwareSep 9, 2010
Actually, the Apple handhelds version of the Digg client app stopped working when this new version of Digg came out a few weeks ago. Last time I checked, it had not been updated for compatibility with the new Digg yet.
When you launch it, it just exits immediately. No error message or explanation; just exits.
EndSep 10, 2010
Shall i say it? Epic fail digg.
gloewenSep 9, 2010
This article is total FAIL. So many typos and mistakes.
charlotte_webSep 9, 2010
FTA:
"This has made the iPhone kind of a joke, because it sucks at being a phone...."
Ummm... it does? Seems like a great phone to me.
misplacedtexanSep 9, 2010
That particular quote must have come from Stan Shih.
vip3r007Sep 9, 2010
HP as a company is in trouble right now with recent decisions. I feel Webos 2.0 will be like the slate DOA.
johnnysoftwareSep 9, 2010
Huh?
kingmattusSep 9, 2010
but it has... "I don't care"
kgraves831Sep 9, 2010
The real question is will developers get behind WebOS? Apple has the head start with iOS. Now companies are starting to port their apps over to Android, but I don't see them taking the time and money to develop for and support a third platform. I think WebOS is just too late to the game.
misplacedtexanSep 9, 2010
The thing was that WebOS wasn't too late to the game, it was seriously undermined by a decided lack of promotion. Sadly, every time I see something that's purported to work on iPhone, Blackberry and Android, I see the obligatory forum post from folks asking for WebOS support followed by a "Yeah, no."
HP will seriously need to step up their game to overcome this problem.
johnnysoftwareSep 9, 2010
Palm was a smaller company than Apple, HP, etc. So now they have more advertising budget and just more opportunities to be shown off than they had before.
Interesting bit of Trivia: Apple was founded by an ex HP engineer who left the company to found Apple with a boyhood friend. Palm was founded by ex Apple engineers who left Apple to found Palm. Now, HP has bought Palm. Which means things have gone full cycle and the prodigal technology has returned to the fold, in a way.
Nobody has made a big deal about this in any articles I have read but I find it very interesting.
superkendallSep 9, 2010
"However it fumbles with two things: partnering, and integration with third-party products."
What? It has partners all over the globe. And in case you hadn't noticed, third party accessories for the iPhone/iPad are EVERYWHERE.
danbarkerSep 9, 2010
No it couldnt.
unexplodedSep 9, 2010
Meanwhile, back at HP.
"Smith, layoff 20,000 Americans and hire 40,000 people in Mumbai, stat!"
"Sir, Mumbai's on the phone, apparently they require step-by-step instructions for inventing an innovate new product--with screen-shots, if possible. They'd also like someone to sent them documentation regarding the lunch process."
potherSep 9, 2010
Well yeah it could, IF there was a phone, tablet or other device that ran WebOS 2.0, AND IF the carriers are willing to allow it.
johnnysoftwareSep 9, 2010
Well, WebOS did compete against MICROSOFT and WebOS won. The HP Slate that Steve Balmer held up in early 2010 and declared was going to run Windows 7 _actually_ is will run HP's WebOS instead of MS Windows. So, WebOS looks like a Windows-killer in every since of the word with respect to handheld computers.
Of course, I do not think anyone expects for WebOS or HP Slate to outsell Apple iPads right out to of the starting gate. The iPad got off to huge start its first couple days on the market. It is two early to know how each product will do in their first year, though. The iPad has only been out a few months and the HP Slate still is not out.
One thing I eagerly await seeing is will WebOS 2.0 actually ship with a print to printers (wireless or wired connections) when it actually ships on HP Slate. That printing capability does not seem to be a built in ability of Apple iOS unless it was added in some version of iOS 4.x recently.
Closed AccountSep 23, 2010
This is good news, another player in the battle of the mobile ecosystems keeps competition healthy among the seemingly unstoppable powerhouses of Apple and Google. Let's hope RIM OS6 and Symbian4 can add to this competitive mix
thebizkiddJul 3, 2011
Interesting Article
KenKindtSignworldAug 2, 2011
eagerly looking forward to the outcome..let's see what happens