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WSJ and MySpace both owned by News Corp
tomyclikOct 23, 2010
I prefer Digg.
usman123ideasOct 23, 2010
I don't know if it is true :)
moose1627Oct 23, 2010
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100014240527023...
Here it is.
nealddOct 23, 2010
WSJ took it down
davidtcOct 24, 2010
They did? That link is broken.
davidtcOct 24, 2010
Proper link. Still found on the front page of wsj.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303738504575568460409331560.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTWhatsNewsCollection
gogowesOct 23, 2010
You always wonder if things like this happen. Here's the proof. Not only does it look bad that they aren't being equally critical of their own site but now it also looks like they can use WSJ as a weapon against NewsCorp competitors.
sq2shooterOct 23, 2010
I am just amazed there are still people who use Myspace.
jdenzerOct 23, 2010
I am just a amazed how a few years ago Facebook was seen as dead and for old people. And Myspace was on top. Now it is Facebook on top.
sq2shooterOct 23, 2010
What? A few years ago Facebook was for students only. It has never been seen as dead or for old people.
dirtyfriesOct 23, 2010
When was Facebook seen that way? It used to be only for students and young people, now parents are on it and it's jumping the shark.
I'm thinking it will be eventually, but hasn't gotten there.
jdenzerOct 24, 2010
@sq2shooter & dirtyfries
I know plenty of 40+ non students who used Facebook back then. Didn't Myspace launch careers like Tila Tequila. I remember people making fun of Bill Gates who was on Facebook back then. All you heard was MySpace and anytime someone mentioned Facebook people laughed.
From Wikipedia:
MySpace became the most popular social networking site in the United States in June 2006.[6] According to comScore, MySpace was overtaken internationally by its main competitor, Facebook, in April 2008, based on monthly unique visitors.
And Myspace launched in 2003 and Facebook 2004 almost at the same time.
sq2shooterOct 24, 2010
Facebook was only for people with edu email addresses until late 2006. So the comparison to Myspace is apples and oranges since Myspace was open for anyone. Facebook was almost entirely college and high school kids until late 2006 or early 2007.
jdenzerOct 24, 2010
But not exclusively to to just HS and college. Plus who do you think makes these social media networks popular when they started. It sure as hell wasn't the 40+ crowd. The two social media network were the ones battling it out. I can't tell if you are making the case that Facebook has always been on top or what. My point is that much more people looked to MySpace as the social media network over Facebook. I do recall here on digg, people trashing Facebook as lame or done. You seem to be making the case as if Facebook was this exclusive club to only HS and College. You know like Google was to CS students back in 99. It just wasn't that way a few years ago, maybe in it's first year. Remember people made fun of Gates for being on Facebook.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
dirtyfriesOct 24, 2010
Here's the problem...you made a sweeping generality about how it was seen.
You're wrong about the public perception regardless of whom used it.
jdenzerOct 24, 2010
@dirtyfries
No, I am just commenting on something I recall and observed. I could can less about either. I don't use Facebook or Myspace. If your some fanboy who loves Facebook and thinks it is the best thing since slice break. And has been the greatest since it's launch good for you. It just seems to me like MySpace was the one on top a few years ago and people were dismissing Facebook. And it wasn't due to 'HS & college kids use it only" I am not debating this like a economic policy or math theory. It seems like that's how it was, can I prove it, no. But neither can you prove me wrong.
jdenzerOct 24, 2010
@dirtyfries
No, I am just commenting on something I recall and observed. I could can less about either. I don't use Facebook or Myspace. If your some fanboy who loves Facebook and thinks it is the best thing since slice break. And has been the greatest since it's launch good for you. It just seems to me like MySpace was the one on top a few years ago and people were dismissing Facebook. And it wasn't due to 'HS & college kids use it only" I am not debating this like a economic policy or math theory. It seems like that's how it was, can I prove it, no. But neither can you prove me wrong.
dirtyfriesOct 24, 2010
Haha, you think I'm a Facebook fanboy? LMAO. I hate Facebook.
I'm just saying your perception was waaaaay off. Society didn't see FB as dead nor for old people...and the majority still don't. I'm not sure where you got that point of view from.
jdenzerOct 24, 2010
@dirtyfries
Funny, not really. Why wouldn't anyone think you are a fan, since you have this strong need on proving me wrong or 'waaaaaaaaaaaay off' So you're not a fan, big deal. You're the one trying to make this strong argument for Facebook. For someone who hates them, you sure have a strong conviction on proving me wrong an defending them.
Like I said I could care less of either. I was just making a observation of what I saw what was going on. Especially here on digg. Countless articles about MySpace and a few on Facebook. And if in a few years MySpace is on top again. We can look back an say remember when all the rage was Facebook and people didn't really bother with MySpace anymore.
But I guess you will be there to tell me I am 'waaaaaaay of', b/c you hate Facebook, right?
dirtyfriesOct 25, 2010
Dude...I'm not defending them, just pointing put the broad assumption you made seems pretty far off. I don't care what people think about it, only that your assertion is pretty baseless...as evidenced by the general public, your buries, and the weird idea it was for old people despite being exclusively for college students at the start.
Let me guess...you're young, right? So those "old people" were college students?
jdenzerOct 25, 2010
"as evidenced by the general public, your buries"
My comment got 4 neg diggs, yeah such huge evidence against my opinion. Wow way to crack the case there Columbo. Ooops did I just show my age or are you missing the reference? What's that about 'broad assumption?'
"assertion is pretty baseless"
Again just as I can't really prove my opinion, you can't prove me wrong either. Yet somehow you seem to have this 'open and closed case' against me with absolutely no proof. At least I can't make the claim that MySpace was more popular than Facebook a few years back and back it up with some data. Unlike you which will just say that is baseless or let me guess make the claim that MySpace and Facebook is like comparing Apples and Oranges.
"exclusively for college students at the start."
Ok try to follow the timeline:
Facebook started in 2005, I said a few years back, so I am talking 2007/2008.
sq2shooter even said "Facebook was only for people with edu email addresses until late 2006. "
So now, not so weird that older adults would use Facebook in 2007/2008. Plus I never said "Facebook was exclusively for old people" You are the one talking about exclusives, talk about a broad assumption. Where my proof you ask? Bill Gates even had a Facebook account back then, kind of blows your whole 'exclusive' theory out of the water, doesn't it?
"Let me guess...you're young, right?"
You are soooooo waaaaaaayyyyyyyy off LOL
No actually I am old enough to remember the Iran hostage crisis, let me guess you had to google that.
dirtyfriesOct 25, 2010
I hate arguing this with you as I as I appreciate your political commentary. So, try to keep up:
You made a broad, unproven, baseless assertion. One that I can't seem to find any evidence for in blogs, the media, nor do I frankly recall any such perception. I guess "was seen as" really just applies to you.
So basically, you're saying now it's your opinion...and not so much the fact you presented it as. So...YOU thought it was for old people...that's cool, good for you. Except...no one else really did. People saw it as for students, and MySpace as for teenie-boppers and bands (now I guess it's dropping quickly to bands).
The Bill Gates example cracks me up since the reason people mocked it was because he's old...and Facebook was perceived as younger people.
I'm not talking popularity here...just that your perception of it isn't as solid as you seem to think it was.
Haha...Iran...I'm glad you remember. I hope you remember it better than the public's perception of social media.
Your diatribes are getting a bit long and ranty. Just accept you made an assertion that isn't generally shared, that it was just your personal (albeit, ill-based) opinion, and leave it at that. As I said, I like your political posts so arguing with you over something tawdry feels like a waste.
jdenzerOct 25, 2010
You right arguing about this does seem silly. And perhaps my saying "dead and for old people" was what was a big turn off. Just to be clear, when I mean 'old people', I am referring to the 35+ crowd. Let's face it social media networks began with the youth, the majority of them are young. And not all, nut most under 25 do think of 35+ being 'old people' It is a fact of life, we may not like it, but hey we use to think that way as well.
You right if you think that my perception of Facebook being 'dead and for old people' is wrong. Let me clarify I didn't think that nor do I think that.
What I was saying that is seemed like there was a general perception among the social media crowd. Now maybe that was just MySpace fans. You know like the Xbox/Playstation fans.
But I do recall MySpace having more of a call it presence or fan base or popularity that Facebook. Believe me there seemed to be more MySpace links on Digg. People saying "check out my MySpace' youtube videos of MySpace fanatics, etc.
It just seemed like MySpace was 'winninng' the social media war.
And saying it was b/c Facebook was exclusive to students is just not true. Facebook and MySpace are not old at all 5-6years, so a few years back is only 2007/2008. And 35+ non students were using Facebook.
2 articles prove it.
From 2008
http://www.salon.com/life/feature/2008/09/29/old_people
From 2007
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=3740585&page=1
Please let me clarify what I initially tried to comment, and don't think I am backtracking. Basically it just seems like MySpace was the social media to use, more popular. And Facebook was either struggling or just holding their own. Now it seems like MySpace is not on top and Facebook is on top.
But like you said it seems like a waste, considering neither of us are not a fan of Facebook or MySpace.
dirtyfriesOct 26, 2010
Everything you just said I totally agree with.
And allow me to clarify...I wasn't insinuating there aren't "old" people on FB, just that the public's general perception wasn't that it was strictly for old people. (You're right, your statement is what gave me issue). MySpace really took a nasty tumble. I'm hoping FB does too, unfortunately you know it'll just get replaced with something else.
So...truce and back to fighting the good fight against people like alanocu?
itwasonlyajokeOct 24, 2010
Well actually, MySpace has revamped their website, and improved the API. While it's not ideal, it is certainly better than it used to be. Many music groups still find it the best way to publish their works.
scuvballOct 23, 2010
Yesterday, this was the main story on WSJ. It's no longer the headline story but it is still on the front page.
http://imgur.com/gbtKC
Also, scroll down wsj.org a little bit (7:43a October 23, it's there).
scuvballOct 23, 2010
*wsj.com*
monsternakaOct 23, 2010
techcrunch is so addicting!
3the3dude3Oct 24, 2010
This is traditional Michael Arrington bulls**t amplified by his new AOL overlords. Fox News, of all places, reported that a WSJ investigation revealed that Myspace had violated user privacy and was sharing user data with advertisers.
FNC did fail to mention MySpace's News Corp. ownership, but it was the only place I had even heard the story.
Summary: Two News Corp entities bitch-slap a sister entity, report that they've slapped her, but don't tell us it was their sister that they slapped. Michael Arrington writes some bulls**t.
flarn2006Oct 24, 2010
I clicked it just to see what that "ysp" in the thumbnail was. I knew I had seen those three letters in that font somewhere.