I used to use BTJunkie and sadly, they are gone now. Every movie I've bought I also downloaded from bittorrent. I have two kids and frankly, its expensive to have to rebuy movies because they get ruined from kids handling them too rough or improperly. Its also easier to have them on my PS3 to play instead of swapping disks for my kids too. My 5 year old can navigate to my PC via the PS3 and stream a movie. I'd much rather have her do that then swap discs. This is just how I use it and I know there are people that never buy a movie and get them all for free, but honestly the movie and music industries seem to be sitting pretty on profits. Its not hurting them as bad as they think it is. Because of the fight they are putting up, it makes me want to download s**t just to piss them off.
Teach your children how to handle DVDs properly; a 5 year old should have no problem with that (my 5yo daughter handles a Kindle Fire). Just take your time, they really can learn how to handle fragile things.
But probably a bigger question: why do you let them watch movies at will all by themselves?
First, he's not asking advice for how to handle his kids, and kids should be allowed to watch what they want on their console; a bigger and more concerning question is: why you force your kids to watch what you want when you want?
Second, he probably has BluRay discs, and it's a waste of space ripping those; it's better, faster and more comfortable to download an extra copy for 4-8 GB.
And all of that is not important, the problem here is that the MAAFIA is exaggerating in their methods, putting at risk the very fundaments of the free internet.
Yeah, I missed the point. The majority of Digg just wants a free lunch and is to young to have heard of TANSTAAFL. What's lame is to use your kids as an excuse.
They don't watch movies at will. She asks to watch a movie and if we say yes, she turns it on. I never said she watches it at will. Its usually a reward if she does her chores for the week without issue.
Also, a DVD can get broken or scratched. Plus, they are usually blu-rays and those tend to cost a little more. I prefer the ease of watching a digital version and not having to deal with the disk. I can keep all the disks in a box in the garage and not have to worry about using it unless i need to.
I've ripped many DVDs, but honestly, I can't re-encode them like they do that are on bittorrent. I used DVD instead of blu-ray.
I still don't understand. If she wants to watch a movie, and it's OK, then you or your wife puts the DVD / Blu-ray in the player. I don't let my almost 2 yo handle a Kindle Fire. And the almost 5 yo is allowed to handle it, but not walk around with it.
Congratulations, so why isn't my 5 year old able to turn on the PS3, navigate to my PC and watch a movie. Why do i need to 'spoon feed' my child when she is fully capable of learning and doing things on her own when permitted.
So teach her to handle DVDs / Blu-rays with care. It sounds like a hell of an excuse you're trying to make to pirate movies. Just do it, but don't "blame" your kids or "fragile" DVDs/Blu-Rays.
I never really bought any VHS so thats not my issue, though I do have some VHS from when I moved out of my parents house after high school. Mostly the original predator movies and terminator movies. I did download those because I don't have a VCR.
Efforts to shutdown these sites and the free sharing of information will continue to backfire.
The publicity and draconian rulings are only serving to help these sites.
When I read about dinosaur media executives and accomplishing a "victory" in a court case like this, placing their greed and power over the naturally progression of humanity and sharing of information, it only further alienates me.
it's far from the free sharing of information shutdown
if you want to share your kitty video or your own opinion or your vacation details or drunken nights adventure...no one care to stop you from sharing
actually US corporations created platforms especially for the free sharing of information that you so loath...FB, G+, all blogs platforms and all are available in numerous languages...
so to come here and turn it into draconian rulings to stop you from sharing your opinion in any media you want is utterly ridiculous..
what they want is for you stop sharing their work without their consent...
"what they want is for you stop sharing their work without their consent..."
Nobody has a right to stop anyone from reusing their idea. If it can be copied and reused, they have no right to own a monopoly on that idea.
"actually US corporations created platforms especially for the free sharing of information that you so loath"
Since when do you tell me what I loath? I just logged into Facebook to check out a friend's picture, so go f**k yourself. Also, you have no business suggesting which platforms I should use to share information, or to imply that there is no need for alternative or competing networks.
I always wonder if people who freely hand out the ideas of others actually ever produce something of worth themselves. In my experience the harder they yell that ideas should be free for everybody to consume the less of value they themselves produce. Oh, there are exceptions, people who are already so famous that they even can sell their own s**t for money.
You can pry my pirated software from my cold dead ..errrr computer?
Wait that doesnt work,
Corporations will rape and steal anything they want, they buy our laws, destroy our freedoms, use the court system as some sorta private army and attempt to 'educate' the masses that what they do is ok.
Its not ok..
Take it all away and i still wouldn't buy any more then i already do, probably less
Why should I feel bad that karma is hitting these SOB. This is a war, its a war of thought; it is between those who think they can control thought and those who want to share thought; The internet has changed everything and they WILL LOSE.
The article is misleading. TPB never mentioned anything about "going underground" in response to Britain's threats. The only change they've made is taking the .torrent files off their servers and making the magnet link the default download option.
I never said a proxy wasn't a viable option to overcome a block. In fact, all I suggested was that Britain's block would not simply be a DNS block. I don't need you to lecture me with the obvious.
I just wish TPB would move to a TOR .onion service and get it over with. Magnetic links = no bandwidth over TOR network and .onion service makes TPB almost invincible.
You're point about the difference between stealing any copyright infringement is valid from a scholarly view. I was speaking practically, and the distinction you make is illusory. If you insist on semantics, then I shall rephrase:
One would assume that violaiting statutes and infringing on the rights of other people or corporations while running an illegal for-profit business would inherently be an underground activity.
QUOTE: "One would assume that violaiting statutes"
Statutes are not written in English. They are written in a language called, Legalese. How can they apply to anyone who is NOT a member of The Law Society (the only folks qualified to under-stand the language of legalese)?
If I can't under-stand the terms a Martian is offering me... why should I be forced to buy any of their green milk?
QUOTE: "infringing on the rights of other people or corporations"
Corporations are fictions. How can a fiction establish a legitimate right?
The only illusory distinctions are your own, like this one:
"infringing on the rights of other people or corporations while running an illegal for-profit business"
Most people I know who share information, aren't doing it for profit.
But go ahead, keep trying to project that illusion, it will backfire. At the very least, the younger populace knows better, and people who buy into your illusion will die off.
I think those "old" people have not much of a problem with dying off. It would be a fantastic world where people who are creative have to get a different job since people like you want to use their ideas without paying. Oh, sure, a few die-hards will keep going on. But the rest?
And I can smell already the "but... but... Open Source???" In that case you forget that a lot of people who work on Open Source are doing so at their job (as in paid for). Maybe wonder why "the" Linux desktop looks piss poor, graphics wise. Well, in my opinion, that is. Oh, and why so much OSS is so poorly documented.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
"It would be a fantastic world where people who are creative have to get a different job since people like you want to use their ideas without paying."
Correction.
It would be a fantastic world where people don't have to spend time obtaining and diverting resources towards the reuse of ideas that are not scarce and very easily reproduced.
Such a world would be one where less work is needed overall, where people have more free time to be creative.
If the desktop was changed there would be a lawsuit claiming infringement on the idea of a easy to use desktop.
There are areas where open source leads the way, and when it does it stays that way because it keeps ahead of the lawsuits. Apache is an example. Linux as a server is another.
Opensource in general spends too much time trying to figure out how to interoperate with systems that aren't opensource, always wondering when the next lawsuit will arrive.
Samba alone would be years ahead if they could just do what they wanted.
If you cannot produce more value than creating an idea that can be copied and distributed millions of times at very little cost, I don't see why you blame it on the pirate bay. Blame it on yourself.
Become more creative. People are not unwilling to part with some money (the fruits of their labor) to compensate the creative people behind the ideas they use. I consistently contribute to a number of individuals whose works were obtained at no cost.
What some individuals will not respect is people with no principle monopolizing and pillaging industries without respect for what's best for everyone. If people want to do business with the monopolists, that's fine with me, but don't expect me to.
johnomazzFeb 22, 2012
I used to use BTJunkie and sadly, they are gone now. Every movie I've bought I also downloaded from bittorrent. I have two kids and frankly, its expensive to have to rebuy movies because they get ruined from kids handling them too rough or improperly. Its also easier to have them on my PS3 to play instead of swapping disks for my kids too. My 5 year old can navigate to my PC via the PS3 and stream a movie. I'd much rather have her do that then swap discs. This is just how I use it and I know there are people that never buy a movie and get them all for free, but honestly the movie and music industries seem to be sitting pretty on profits. Its not hurting them as bad as they think it is. Because of the fight they are putting up, it makes me want to download s**t just to piss them off.
haploFeb 22, 2012
Teach your children how to handle DVDs properly; a 5 year old should have no problem with that (my 5yo daughter handles a Kindle Fire). Just take your time, they really can learn how to handle fragile things.
But probably a bigger question: why do you let them watch movies at will all by themselves?
Finally, you can rip DVDs yourself, for example use VLC to do this. It's not rocket science.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
pacocrowleyFeb 23, 2012
You're missing completely the point.
First, he's not asking advice for how to handle his kids, and kids should be allowed to watch what they want on their console; a bigger and more concerning question is: why you force your kids to watch what you want when you want?
Second, he probably has BluRay discs, and it's a waste of space ripping those; it's better, faster and more comfortable to download an extra copy for 4-8 GB.
And all of that is not important, the problem here is that the MAAFIA is exaggerating in their methods, putting at risk the very fundaments of the free internet.
haploFeb 23, 2012
Yeah, I missed the point. The majority of Digg just wants a free lunch and is to young to have heard of TANSTAAFL. What's lame is to use your kids as an excuse.
johnomazzFeb 23, 2012
They don't watch movies at will. She asks to watch a movie and if we say yes, she turns it on. I never said she watches it at will. Its usually a reward if she does her chores for the week without issue.
Also, a DVD can get broken or scratched. Plus, they are usually blu-rays and those tend to cost a little more. I prefer the ease of watching a digital version and not having to deal with the disk. I can keep all the disks in a box in the garage and not have to worry about using it unless i need to.
I've ripped many DVDs, but honestly, I can't re-encode them like they do that are on bittorrent. I used DVD instead of blu-ray.
haploFeb 24, 2012
I still don't understand. If she wants to watch a movie, and it's OK, then you or your wife puts the DVD / Blu-ray in the player. I don't let my almost 2 yo handle a Kindle Fire. And the almost 5 yo is allowed to handle it, but not walk around with it.
johnomazzFeb 27, 2012
Congratulations, so why isn't my 5 year old able to turn on the PS3, navigate to my PC and watch a movie. Why do i need to 'spoon feed' my child when she is fully capable of learning and doing things on her own when permitted.
haploFeb 28, 2012
So teach her to handle DVDs / Blu-rays with care. It sounds like a hell of an excuse you're trying to make to pirate movies. Just do it, but don't "blame" your kids or "fragile" DVDs/Blu-Rays.
snigleFeb 22, 2012
I know how you feel. I don't have kids yet I still manage to mangle my movies! I remember one DVD cracking as I put it back into its crappy case.
I find myself in a habit of downloading HD copies of my old DVD/VHS tapes. I refuse to constantly re-buy content again, and again, and again.
johnomazzFeb 23, 2012
I never really bought any VHS so thats not my issue, though I do have some VHS from when I moved out of my parents house after high school. Mostly the original predator movies and terminator movies. I did download those because I don't have a VCR.
njdoo7Feb 22, 2012
Efforts to shutdown these sites and the free sharing of information will continue to backfire.
The publicity and draconian rulings are only serving to help these sites.
When I read about dinosaur media executives and accomplishing a "victory" in a court case like this, placing their greed and power over the naturally progression of humanity and sharing of information, it only further alienates me.
10452bghfFeb 22, 2012
it's far from the free sharing of information shutdown
if you want to share your kitty video or your own opinion or your vacation details or drunken nights adventure...no one care to stop you from sharing
actually US corporations created platforms especially for the free sharing of information that you so loath...FB, G+, all blogs platforms and all are available in numerous languages...
so to come here and turn it into draconian rulings to stop you from sharing your opinion in any media you want is utterly ridiculous..
what they want is for you stop sharing their work without their consent...
why not stop ?Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
njdoo7Feb 22, 2012
"what they want is for you stop sharing their work without their consent..."
Nobody has a right to stop anyone from reusing their idea. If it can be copied and reused, they have no right to own a monopoly on that idea.
"actually US corporations created platforms especially for the free sharing of information that you so loath"
Since when do you tell me what I loath? I just logged into Facebook to check out a friend's picture, so go f**k yourself. Also, you have no business suggesting which platforms I should use to share information, or to imply that there is no need for alternative or competing networks.
10452bghfFeb 22, 2012
what a waist....
haploFeb 22, 2012
I always wonder if people who freely hand out the ideas of others actually ever produce something of worth themselves. In my experience the harder they yell that ideas should be free for everybody to consume the less of value they themselves produce. Oh, there are exceptions, people who are already so famous that they even can sell their own s**t for money.
Anyway, I have no problem people slapping my photos on their ad laden sites if those same people pay for my equipment and time.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
letherialFeb 22, 2012
You can pry my pirated software from my cold dead ..errrr computer?
Wait that doesnt work,
Corporations will rape and steal anything they want, they buy our laws, destroy our freedoms, use the court system as some sorta private army and attempt to 'educate' the masses that what they do is ok.
Its not ok..
Take it all away and i still wouldn't buy any more then i already do, probably less
Why should I feel bad that karma is hitting these SOB. This is a war, its a war of thought; it is between those who think they can control thought and those who want to share thought; The internet has changed everything and they WILL LOSE.
PanjeeFeb 22, 2012
Actually, I don't think it does alienate you... it probably has the opposite effect? It encourages you (us) to share, more!
I bet the greedy attitudes that the corporate executives display, only serves to encourage you to increase your share ratio?
Sharing is caring :o)
njdoo7Feb 22, 2012
Very good point.
PanjeeFeb 23, 2012
Thanks. I just think your view is reasonable & compassionate and should not get lost in the (internet) wilderness.
jacobdisFeb 22, 2012
The article is misleading. TPB never mentioned anything about "going underground" in response to Britain's threats. The only change they've made is taking the .torrent files off their servers and making the magnet link the default download option.
elysiangoldFeb 22, 2012
Wait, I thought TPB's servers were already hidden in a bunker in eastern Europe somewhere. You can't get much more underground than that.
mercedrocksFeb 22, 2012
Why underground?
All UK visitors have to do is type the Pirate Bay's IP address: 194.71.107.15
Easy peasy.
jacobdisFeb 22, 2012
Britain's ISPs will be blocking that address. It won't just be a simple DNS block.
letherialFeb 22, 2012
ya, in this case, its a simple free proxy....
nitoriFeb 22, 2012
Umm it's called a proxy not even China's government has been able to block their people from accessing sites they don't want them to see.
jacobdisFeb 23, 2012
I never said a proxy wasn't a viable option to overcome a block. In fact, all I suggested was that Britain's block would not simply be a DNS block. I don't need you to lecture me with the obvious.
eugenearmsteadFeb 24, 2012
I just wish TPB would move to a TOR .onion service and get it over with. Magnetic links = no bandwidth over TOR network and .onion service makes TPB almost invincible.
theonewhoknowsFeb 22, 2012
One would assume that stealing would inherently be an underground activity. That such has been done so openly for so long is the surprising part.
njdoo7Feb 22, 2012
If it were stealing, you would have a point.. but it isn't, so you don't.
theonewhoknowsFeb 22, 2012
You're point about the difference between stealing any copyright infringement is valid from a scholarly view. I was speaking practically, and the distinction you make is illusory. If you insist on semantics, then I shall rephrase:
One would assume that violaiting statutes and infringing on the rights of other people or corporations while running an illegal for-profit business would inherently be an underground activity.
PanjeeFeb 22, 2012
QUOTE: "One would assume that violaiting statutes"
Statutes are not written in English. They are written in a language called, Legalese. How can they apply to anyone who is NOT a member of The Law Society (the only folks qualified to under-stand the language of legalese)?
If I can't under-stand the terms a Martian is offering me... why should I be forced to buy any of their green milk?
QUOTE: "infringing on the rights of other people or corporations"
Corporations are fictions. How can a fiction establish a legitimate right?
njdoo7Feb 22, 2012
The only illusory distinctions are your own, like this one:
"infringing on the rights of other people or corporations while running an illegal for-profit business"
Most people I know who share information, aren't doing it for profit.
But go ahead, keep trying to project that illusion, it will backfire. At the very least, the younger populace knows better, and people who buy into your illusion will die off.
haploFeb 22, 2012
I think those "old" people have not much of a problem with dying off. It would be a fantastic world where people who are creative have to get a different job since people like you want to use their ideas without paying. Oh, sure, a few die-hards will keep going on. But the rest?
And I can smell already the "but... but... Open Source???" In that case you forget that a lot of people who work on Open Source are doing so at their job (as in paid for). Maybe wonder why "the" Linux desktop looks piss poor, graphics wise. Well, in my opinion, that is. Oh, and why so much OSS is so poorly documented.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
njdoo7Feb 22, 2012
"It would be a fantastic world where people who are creative have to get a different job since people like you want to use their ideas without paying."
Correction.
It would be a fantastic world where people don't have to spend time obtaining and diverting resources towards the reuse of ideas that are not scarce and very easily reproduced.
Such a world would be one where less work is needed overall, where people have more free time to be creative.
Donuts4UFeb 22, 2012
Oh... you messed up bringing up open source.
If the desktop was changed there would be a lawsuit claiming infringement on the idea of a easy to use desktop.
There are areas where open source leads the way, and when it does it stays that way because it keeps ahead of the lawsuits. Apache is an example. Linux as a server is another.
Opensource in general spends too much time trying to figure out how to interoperate with systems that aren't opensource, always wondering when the next lawsuit will arrive.
Samba alone would be years ahead if they could just do what they wanted.
haploFeb 22, 2012
Not scarce as in "readily available on The Pirate Bay", right... *sigh*.
njdoo7Feb 23, 2012
If you cannot produce more value than creating an idea that can be copied and distributed millions of times at very little cost, I don't see why you blame it on the pirate bay. Blame it on yourself.
Become more creative. People are not unwilling to part with some money (the fruits of their labor) to compensate the creative people behind the ideas they use. I consistently contribute to a number of individuals whose works were obtained at no cost.
What some individuals will not respect is people with no principle monopolizing and pillaging industries without respect for what's best for everyone. If people want to do business with the monopolists, that's fine with me, but don't expect me to.
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