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badqatOct 26, 2010
Been running Office 11 for a month now. Have NOT used Outlook yet, though.
morgandwaldronOct 26, 2010
cant wait to get a new mac air!!
thepowerdiggerOct 27, 2010
too late?
extravagantOct 27, 2010Submitter
of course not, outlook is a welcomed app... i've installed it, and they've done a great job with all of the apps, us mac users got collaboration now too...very nice.
p0l0pOct 27, 2010
Who would even want to use Outlook?
sofakidOct 27, 2010
nobody ever _wants_ to; they are forced to because they organisation they work for uses an MS exchange server.
icecyclesOct 27, 2010
actually there was an outlook for mac that was bundled with exchange 5.5 back in the day. they just repackaged it as "entourage" later. this isn't really "new"
stubearOct 27, 2010
Entourage was never really Outlook. it was an Outlook like program for the Mac. I don't think it could even import .pst files. Outlook in Office 2011 is the real deal. It's Outlook with a Mac spin on some minor details.
al3efromanOct 27, 2010
While there were indeed previous incarnations of Outlook for the Mac you are wrong on every other count. Entourage was a Carbon based application based on old Classic Mac APIs. Outlook is now using the Cocoa API and provides a completely different environment than Entourage. Unless the word "repackaged" means something new, you are demonstrably incorrect.
Try loading your Entourage DB in Outlook Mac and see how far you get.
third_eyeOct 27, 2010
Err, this has been "available" for quite some time now.
tufriastOct 27, 2010
Ok I have some gripes. I work at a facility with 6,000 users. I do IT. I do support for 1,300 Macs of various makes and models. Excel, Powerpoint, and Word have crap user interfaces. This is in-line with the Office 2007 "ribbon idea" on the whole. People who use Macs hate it; and people who are Windows converts like it. Too many damn buttons vs. endless complexity. Second, Outlook is not a savior for this platform at all. Try and move a message from one mail folder to the other. You'll get a "search box" where you MUST TYPE IN the exact damn folder you wish to place that email in. ONE AT AT TIME. Conversation mode doesn't group relevant emails together at all. Outlook just groups emails together that seemingly have NOTHING TO DO WITH EACH OTHER and calls them a conversation for whatever damn reason. Outlook still can't import PST contact groups, or calendars at all. It does not sync with iCal at all in any fashion, and to boot does not have any way to change calendaring labeling schemes en-masse. What do I mean? All your events are labeled "No label" when you start it up and have to tediously label items or dump them in some bucket for you to be able to discern events from OTHER PEOPLE'S ##$%$@# EVENTS. In short: A BUNDLE OF ENTRIES ON A CALENDAR THAT HAVE NO LABELS OR COLOR SCHEMA AT ALL BY DEFAULT. GREAT JOB MS! REALLY!
I've spent more time at work explaining how this POS email client works to people new to Macs expecting things to transfer over properly using PST files and they don't. They just don't. PST file conversions can fail, and what's worse they botch other items (cal/contacts).
I've been messing around with this product since April of this year and it is trash. Avoid Outlook; and I'd go one further and say just avoid Office if you don't want nightmares in user land. I'd give Word, Excel, and Powerpoint a collective 56% rating. Outlook I'd give a -57% rating.
Again, the only reason people use these tools is b/c of monopolistic practices held through the 1990s to now. And it only has meant worse products, worse UI design, worse cross platform compatibility, and bitter angst between two groups of people.
If you have a choice to stay away, or save money, please do. You're better off using *anything* other than this pay-to-eat-crap software set.
Google Docs, iWork, OpenOffice.org, LibreOffice, StarOffice, Scrivener, OR A PENCIL + PAPER + YOUR FEET TO DELIVER THE MESSAGE might be better! You'll lose some fat doing it!
manbearOct 27, 2010
just use Mail or Thunderbird if you want to use a mail app that doesn't suck.
gnixon70Oct 27, 2010
Unless your in a corporate exchange environment.
wangOct 27, 2010
"OneNote" is still absent :( There are a lot of people who want OneNote for the Mac, especially students...and yet it keeps getting missed from the Mac Office suite :(
gordigorOct 27, 2010
OP... Mr. Gates doesn't work for the company anymore.
dickgeniusOct 27, 2010
what's worse, entourage or outlook? I get stuck using Microsoft apps because dumb sales type people will not deviate from them and can't learn new things. So, I have to use them by force. It would be awesome if idiots could learn a new trick so that our work setting could use one OS across the board, including apps. And yes, those apps can do everything that needs to be done.