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scenicanemiaMar 10, 2011
What a genius.
withoutheroesMar 10, 2011
pretty lame..
MSaltmarshMar 10, 2011
It's interesting you can get arrested for that over there.
I didn't know that they actually made it criminal offense. Last i heard there laws were very similar to that in the US.
Very strange.
Most defiantly a sign of the times though. I do wish these corporations the best of luck, as i would compare pirating to Pandora's Box. I know changing a business model is much harder then paying lawyers to attack individuals.
breadfredMar 10, 2011
http://www.d-e-f-i-n-i-t-e-l-y.com/
MSaltmarshMar 10, 2011
As i look at you, definitely, i have but one question.
You mad?
breadfredMar 10, 2011
most defiantly a sign of the times?
Not mad, just a bit weird.
MSaltmarshMar 10, 2011
so your saying you didn't understand what i meant but you knew what word should go there?
Some might say that would be a bit weird.
breadfredMar 10, 2011
Nah, just saying that it irritates me that people misspell definitely. I know, pedantic. It's not even my own language. God I should really get a life...
MSaltmarshMar 10, 2011
"Nah, just saying that it irritates me that people misspell definitely. I know, pedantic. It's not even my own language. God I should really get a life..."
Awww, well now i feel bad. :(
It was an honest mistake, a typo if you will. But beyond that yeah i'm a terrible speller. If it wasn't for the little red lines i wouldn't spell most words correctly :(
LOL :P
breadfredMar 11, 2011
Shall we get a room?
MSaltmarshMar 11, 2011
"Shall we get a room?"
way ahead of you.
http://quezoncity.locanto.ph/ID_112808161/Bed-Space-for-Rent-Ladies-only.html
what do you think?
shark72Mar 10, 2011
You're right that Swedish copyright laws are similar to those in the US. US copyright law has both civil and criminal penalties, and so does Sweden.
In the US, the threshold is $1,000 retail value of copyrighted works in a period of 180 days. Of course, you won't necessarily be hit with criminal charges if you go over that threshold; that's just the point at which you're *eligible* for criminal charges.
In my quick reading of Swedish law, I don't see a monetary value defined -- any copyright offense can potentially land you in jail for up to two years, but Swedish law does carve out instances where you can't be brought up on criminal charges. One is if you're making copies only for your private use -- I take this to mean that you're not distributing them.
Swedish copyright law:
http://www.sweden.gov.se/content/1/c6/01/51/95/20edd6df.pdf
The portion of US copyright law dealing with criminal offenses:
http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap5.html#506
MSaltmarshMar 11, 2011
thank you shark :D
This is all very interesting, i didn't know that they actually had criminal offenses for copyright law.
i was under the impression it was all just civil crime.
And thanks again for adding links for your source data, it has made it very convenient for me to look further into the matter.
shark72Mar 11, 2011
No problem -- hope it helped.
I've found that lots of folks in the file sharing community aren't aware of this. It's because scene rips take out this screen that's found on pretty much every DVD:
http://what-grinds-my-gears.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/fbi-warning.jpg
If you ever happen to watch an unripped DVD, look for it.
I also found this video compilation of all the "severe civil and criminal penalties" found on various DVDs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N47xMwOSeFw
In one regard, US copyright law enforcement is a little more lax than Swedish copyright law enforcement -- criminal charges are rarely if ever filed against your typical BT seeder; in the US, it's usually the guys in the warehouses cranking out thousands of counterfeit DVDs who get thrown in jail. The only file sharer I can think of who actually saw jail time was a guy who seeded a copy of The Hulk before it was released to theaters. Here's a good list of federal criminal cases against pirates:
http://www.justice.gov/criminal/cybercrime/ipcases.html
As you can see, if you're just BTing movies and software and not trying to run a criminal operation, you're probably safe from crimincal prosecution, even if you're over the $1,000 threshold (and what serious BT user isn't?)
MSaltmarshMar 11, 2011
hehehe yeah i've seen the fbi warning. I'm thinking i'm just a bit behind the times as far as the updates to copyright law.
Or hell maybe i've been miss informed about it for some time lol
I just always thought it was aimed at people who were making copies and selling them, not people who just were making copies for personal use.
Typically use BT for things that can't be gotten or easily gotten, like various homebrew kind of packages like linux and the like.
I've been avoiding doing any sort of pirating because of the laws going out of control and wanting to stay far away from it.
I've been really trying to educate myself on the subject to make sure i'm within my rights and using fair use.
Thanks again for all your information and help you have been very helpful to me :D
johnomazzMar 10, 2011
Does this apply to those who upload 24/7 or also to those that download only? Sure, I use bittorrent, but I rarely if ever upload for any time other than when I'm downloading.
gsydiggerMar 11, 2011
From what I understand they don't give a s**t about illegal content downloaders (except if it's to do with making bombs) but with uploaders they may try and prosecute but only after a certain amount of content has been uploaded
randompretenderMar 11, 2011
Madness or just masochism.