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studiopenguinJan 28, 2011
Is this the same John Dvorak who predicted the iPhone would be stillborn, the iPod would never retain market share, WiFi would be a gimmick, and the mouse would never catch on? Time to buy Apple stock.
wolfghostJan 28, 2011
On the mouse prediction, you are repeating a false myth. John C. Dvorak's exact words in 1984 were "The Macintosh uses an experimental pointing device called a 'mouse'. There is no evidence that people want to use these things."
Until 1984, the mouse only existed in labs (experimental) and since it was released for the first time to consumers, there was no history (evidence) to prove anyone wanted a mouse. Where in his statement do you see a prediction that it would never catch on?Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
studiopenguinJan 28, 2011
"Apple makes the arrogant assumption of thinking that it knows what you want and need. It, unfortunately, leaves the 'why' out of the equation — as in 'why would I want this?' The Macintosh uses an experimental pointing device called a 'mouse'. There is no evidence that people want to use these things."
-- John Dvorak, The San Francisco Examiner, 2/19/1984 (via Wikiquote)
You left out a bit of important context there.
el_tacoJan 28, 2011
If apple didn't release the mouse i'd bet it would have pushed IBM's nub or touchscreens.
seroevoJan 28, 2011
He's still right in that quote, at least about Apple. Apple does think it knows what you want and need.
If anything, we just take the advantages alongside the limitations. I haven't been truly happy with a piece of technology ever, from any manufacturer. Within hours I'll find completely arbitrary restrictions that limit how I had intended to use the product.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
Closed AccountJan 28, 2011
Prove them wrong. Don't buy anything from Apple! That will fix them. Dvorak has never been right, and he says provocative things because he's a click-whore.
seroevoJan 28, 2011
It's not Apple specifically I have this problem with. I have it with all technological products.
Many companies think they know - or just try to tell you - what you want or need. He just happened to mention Apple specifically given the context, and is right in that respect. They do that.
gdj11Jan 29, 2011
Remember when Apple removed floppy drives and everyone freaked out? Somebody needs to take initiative.
TomHanks4Jan 30, 2011
you mean when Apple dropped support, causing many users to be inconvenienced, while the PC world slowly phased them out so people could transition at their own pace? yeah, i remember that.
gdj11Jan 30, 2011
if it were up to you computers would have record players in them.
misterdeerwoodJan 30, 2011
Apple has a history of taking initiative. To ensure that people got used to a mouse (hard to believe, people back then thought it was too difficult), they left out arrow keys on their early Macs. Very controversial back then, but it did get people to use the mouse.
They were the first to use color monitors, first to stop making CRT monitors, to cease including floppy drives, the first to use a color other than beige for their cases, first to employ fonts, first to create an MP3 player that could hold thousands of songs, first to create a touchscreen phone (despite what haters will point out, the LG Prada was a ripoff of the iPhone, having been in development 2 years less), first to use a new, leaner OS (iOS) for a tablet, first to do away with the stylus.
Here's more... http://www.jagshouse.com/firsts.html
Yeah, Apple thinks it knows what we want before we do. Arrogant, sure. You could also call it risky, since Apple's has bet the house on a lot of its decisions. Luckily, they seem to be right most of the time.
mkautzJan 30, 2011
Are you kidding me? You do realize that PCs have given you the option to order them sans-floppy long before the G3 hit the shelves yes?
To misterdeerwood: You have this weird notion that Apple started some "trends" in the tech field but unlike in the world of Apple, there have been so many more choices in the field of PCs that it's very difficult to pin-point who was the first company to offer what. For example, a company called DakTech offered Black cases long before the iMacs hit the shelves. HP is usually credited with the first touch-screen device capable of a phone call. Before the iPod was the Creative Nomad, capable of holding thousands of songs. HP developed a touchscreen device in 2005, long before the iPad.
Long story short, you're a tool. A tool who can parrot what Steve Jobs tells you to say. Congratulations. You know nothing of the history of technology, the origin of trends, the development of products and how they evolved or where Apple fits in the whole picture. Do your research next time you think you need to tell the world how Apple 'innovated' before everyone else.
That cute link you post also probably needs to cite some of their claims as there are a host of inaccuracies in them.
gdj11Jan 30, 2011
There's always been this argument... "Company X was the first!!" The problem is their product never took off. There's a difference between being the first to do it, and the first to do it RIGHT. Apple has a knack for doing things right. It doesn't matter if Creative had the Nomad before. Or if HP had a touchscreen device. They obviously didn't do it RIGHT. Or maybe it was still a decent product, but Apple still did it better. I don't mind Apple taking initiative because there is a lot of thinking behind it.
theexitwoundJan 30, 2011
You can *appear* to do everything right when you let others try and fail first.
gdj11Jan 30, 2011
Look, don't get me wrong. I'm not some Apple fanboy. Apple ripped off all their designs from Braun. (http://gizmodo.com/343641/1960s-braun-products-hold-the-secrets-to-apples-future) But you have to give credit where credit is due. And Apple is owed a sh*tload of credit.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
mredofcourseJan 30, 2011
@misterdeerwood,
"first to create an MP3 player that could hold thousands of songs"
This one is wrong. I had a 20GB portable MP3 player for quite some time before Apple introduced the original iPod which was only 5GB. In fact, that was one of the common complaints about the original iPod, that despite using a hard drive, it was lower capacity than others that cost the same or less.
What Apple did do was create the first *useable* MP3 player. Compared to the iPod, everything else at the time was absolute crap. For example, nobody was using anything faster than USB 1.1. My 20GB MP3 player took forever just to transfer a few albums of MP3s...and worse, it didn't charge over USB, so it had to be plugged in to a power supply or else the battery would drain on sync and you'd have to start all over again.
There were also all kind of interface issues and quality issues with players at the time which allowed the iPod to take over the market.
To be clear here, Apple didn't "first see the market of MP3 players", nor did they innovate or take an initiative in creating/changing the industry of personal audio devices. What they did was show up *very* late, and designed a much better product than anyone else had, and supported it with a broader ecosystem, and thus took over the market.
kj4wozJan 30, 2011
Apple didn't support 2 button mice until 2001, the PC had them for years prior.
Apple didn't use Intel processors until about 2005, PCs had them for years prior.
Apple didn't ship CD burners until 2001, PCs had them for years prior.
Apple didn't have a command line until OSX, PCs had a CLI for years prior.
I could go on, but I think the point is clear to anyone with a reasonable mind: Sometimes Apple is on the leading edge, sometimes they chase the tail, just like every other tech company.
ac3505Jan 30, 2011
Telling you what you want and need is a marketing strategy. Practically every company uses it, and it appears to be working pretty well for Apple.
superkendallJan 28, 2011
But the context doesn't change the meaning of the original statement. Dvorak still thought no-one would want to use a mouse, and was angry at Apple just for shipping one, even though you could buy other computers if you didn't want a mouse.
wolfghostJan 28, 2011
The expanded context does not justify the "mouse will fail" myth. I see a complaint that Apple required customers to pay for and use an unproven device. The leap from this statement to "the mouse will fail" is emotional, not logical. Of course, it would seem logical in hindsight, but not in 1984.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
eroticturkeyJan 30, 2011
Was there real evidence regular "consumers" wanted to use computers then? How can people know what they want in devices that don't exist, I mean why would I want that computer connected to a server with every movie and tv show on it ever (E.G. Netflix) when I have no way of knowing there is way to connect that to the tv in my living room. People don't know what they want without context, that being said the guy with his own keyboard design should be on these things a little better.
FYI. I haven't read the article yet.
myztryJan 29, 2011
In 1985, every Amiga came with a two button mouse, which it turns out everyone wanted. Oh, and pre-emptive multitasking.
Both of which Apple didn't get for a long time :)
The market works itself out as long as a single player doesn't become too dominant.
overstimJan 30, 2011
"everyone wanted" a two button mouse? Says who? Apple didnt NEED a two button mouse because they designed the OS to be simple enough to work with one. Needing two buttons was a sign of laziness.
UNIX machines used a three button mouse for years, why wasn't anyone slamming Windows for only having two?Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
jdmulloyJan 30, 2011
As a Linux user I do find a mouse without a middle button to be deficient. Thankfully almost all mice made today have a scroll wheel that is also a middle button. Even my laptop has a middle button with the trackpoint, which unfortunately is not offered on very many laptops these days.
myztryJan 30, 2011
Most PC mice now have three buttons these days. One of which is rarely used outside of games.
Select and action are two crucial actions which are logically separated.
The Amiga also introduced the GUI command key (actually two of them) and Microsoft copied it for the Windows Key.
It's all just progression but somebody has to have the innovative nerve to first test the market.
jsebrechJan 30, 2011
Um, no. Even before the advent of OS X ctrl-click / long-click were an important part of many mac apps. Apple always had two button mice, they just kept one button on the keyboard.
mredofcourseJan 31, 2011
While there were apps that supported right-click or ctrl-click previously on the Mac, it wasn't until Mac OS 8 that Apple incorporated right-click/ctrl-click functionality in the OS itself.
misterdeerwoodJan 30, 2011
Apple had the functionality of a two-button mouse all along. Click-and-hold was the equivalent of right-click (bringing up contextual menus, etc.). I used their one-button mouse for years without a need for anything else.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
ybanerdJan 28, 2011
Not so funny when your iPhone home button stops working and you have to deal with an At&t sales person to get access to YOUR personal finance. I don't want APPLE AT&T VERIZON or any phone or technology company touching my money. Just watch how they laugh when you say "f**k you pay me!"Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
charlotte_webJan 28, 2011
It will never turn out that way. Nobody is going to come in and lock out the banks and the credit card companies. Their lobby in Washington is too strong to let that happen. The phone companies will not simply backdoor their way into taking over the banking industry.
Closed AccountJan 29, 2011
IT will never turn out that way becuase not a single sane person WANTS a cell phone or an iPod company to handle their money. IT has nothing to do with the bank lobby and everything to do with the fact that people do not want it.
thechauvinistJan 29, 2011
Yeah, what about the fact that Japan has been doing this with phones for a while now? Although I liked his writing style and the interesting anecdotes, given his past predictions about tech, I think this guy's got his head up his ass.
vitriolandangstJan 29, 2011
Once in a while, Dvorak is amazingly correct -- just to throw everyone off.
This is NOT one of those times.
nuthinlikerubbnJan 29, 2011
I don't understand dvoraks article. How exactly will phone companies screw me over?? If I use a nfc chip on my phone to pay for something, it will be charged on my att/verizon phone bill....that's it. So how exactly am I being screwed here???
mredofcourseJan 30, 2011
I'm not defending the ass clown, but his point is that with a credit card, you have some degree of protection. You could refuse your bill and perhaps lose the card, but if you get bad charges or whatever on your iPhone, you could be cut off from using your iPhone unless you paid.
smokezzJan 30, 2011
You really trust your phone company to bill correctly and not f**k everything up?! Really? Wow.
amazetbmJan 30, 2011
Bought the stock, when the first gen iPod was release. I'm not a big Apple fan...but it was a good investment.
supergt84Jan 28, 2011
Poor guy is just trying to stay relevant. Actually, I take that back. He's trying to BE relevant. He's the reason I stopped watching This Week in Tech.
The article is nothing more than him mentioning that cell-phone-as-credit-card was his idea and that phone companies are evil, proved dubiously by some scam from a decade ago.
Also, are the transactions absolutely going to be controlled by phone companies? I'd think Apple and Paypal would want a piece of that pie. That's not mentioned anywhere in the article.
whiskeydicksJan 28, 2011
Only reason I still watch TWiT is because of Dvorak, lol.
supergt84Jan 28, 2011
We would not get along :P
danbarkerJan 29, 2011
me too.
bandomacJan 29, 2011
In the morning.
kgermJan 30, 2011
HAWT POCKET!
bandomacJan 30, 2011
Shut up, SLAVE!
Closed AccountJan 30, 2011
The science is in!
nabor605Jan 30, 2011
Doug!
bandomacJan 30, 2011
Doug has the last word.
charlotte_webJan 28, 2011
The problem with his argument is that he assumes that the credit card companies are simply going to allow the phone companies to swallow their business whole. How many money is the credit card industry worth? Hundreds of billions? Trillions?
There's still a lot to be hammered out. Trust me, Visa and MasterCard are not going to sit idly by. They have a massive war chest, and they will use it.
Besides, it's not hard to imaging Visa or MC deploying a credit card app for iPhone and Android. Problem solved.
vitriolandangstJan 29, 2011
iTunes already does the "micropayments" thing. So really, the Cell Phone service is just the "connector." They cannot control your in-game payment transfers or anything else.
If the USER of the phone, doesn't like the Cell Phone service, they can "join" another payment system.
This is merely the infrastructure Apple is enabling -- it's like saying a cash register can only go through the phone company it is connected to.
charlotte_webJan 30, 2011
But, Apple's still billing you through the credit card companies.
superkendallJan 28, 2011
So why is he not ranting against Google, they were first with public NFC support in Android 2.2.
takamalakJan 29, 2011
you don't rant against the people in your pocket.
danbarkerJan 29, 2011
just because they support it doesn't mean that the phones will use it. In the iPhone they will.
zgjybz999Jan 29, 2011
yes its problem
zgjybz999Jan 29, 2011
yes
Closed AccountJan 29, 2011
All other comments aside... do you think this guy makes his own foil hats, or orders them on his iPhone?
amaoicanJan 29, 2011
Good show. I award you one zing.
vitriolandangstJan 29, 2011
Stop making fun of tin-foil-hats by associating them with Dvorak.
That's what THEY want you to think -- that the hats are crazy. No, the people wearing the hats are crazy -- but that doesn't mean the hats might not be useful one day.
ricksiteJan 29, 2011
Kudos to John C. Dvorak for having a job. Aside from that, not much else to say.
cthellisJan 29, 2011
Though you have to wonder about the idiots who employ him.
Closed AccountJan 29, 2011
one ringy dingy, two ringy dingy, 3 ringy dingy
linuxpersonJan 29, 2011
This guy has gotten almost as many predictions wrong as Paul Krugman. With this in mind, make sure to invest accordingly.
Closed AccountJan 29, 2011
err Nobel Prize winning economist Paul Krugman - sure
anixmanderJan 29, 2011
Big deal, just because you have a Nobel, doesn't mean you always know what you are talking about.
Closed AccountJan 29, 2011
Right, but it's considerably more likely that you do. Dvorak is no Krugman.
Closed AccountJan 29, 2011
Doesn't mean that you are always right. You get a Nobel Prize over a specific thing. And if you throw enough s**t against a wall, some will stick now and then. And that sums up Krugman perfectly.
enantiodromiaJan 29, 2011
actually you don't usually get a Nobel prize for a specific thing, usually it's for a body of work, which happens to have resulted in a specific thing.
Closed AccountJan 29, 2011
kind of a silly argument. it would make more sense, if you're looking for a reason not to like him, to just say you disagree with his politics. he's an accomplished guy.
linuxpersonJan 30, 2011
Yes, the Nobel Prize winner who vehemently denied that there was a housing crisis until after it happened.
Closed AccountJan 31, 2011
I think you may be confusing Greenspan with Krugman. Greenspan/Bush helped cause the crisis. I'm having trouble finding articles with Krugman agreeing with Greenspan/the Objectivists on anything. In fact, I can only find him making criticisms of those policies... Either way - no Dvorak
amaoicanJan 29, 2011
I take my investment advice from Family Guy - I'm long on waffles.
KRESHJan 29, 2011
I hate at&t.
randyspriggsJan 29, 2011
Why does EVERYONE hate on Dvorak? First of all , it`s an opinion piece and secondly , he thinks differently. Who cares if he`s wrong or if he`s right? Part of the what makes him intresting is his different views.
And No Agenda is a good podcast ;)
charlesgJan 29, 2011
In the morning
devil45Jan 29, 2011
We need to hit some of these people on Digg in the mouth.
Closed AccountJan 29, 2011
It is mostly that he is ALWAYS proven wrong...yet he still acts like an exert.
cthellisJan 29, 2011
Beee...cause... he's a horrible analyst, a fantastic blowhard, and a self-admitted troll?
sanctumsJan 30, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tkl4Y0sxerQ
freediverxJan 30, 2011
Everyone hates Dvorak because he's a moron who consistently makes arrogant, wildly incorrect predictions about things he clearly doesn't understand, while exhibiting a complete lack of any sort of vision. I guess it's only fitting that he writes for a dinosaur of a publication like PC Magazine.
He's either a closed-minded old goat who can't shut up about things he knows nothing about or he's a sleazy hit whore who intentionally writes incendiary articles as click bait. Either one makes him an assh**e.
bijaJan 29, 2011
Dvorak makes some good points. I use a jailbroken iPhone with a T-mobile prepaid account. The bad part is I don't have a data plan but I am in enough Wi-Fi areas, it isn't too bad. The good part is that the phone company can't screw me over since they don't bill me. I prepay for all my minutes. It amazes me that more people don't go with Prepaid cell phones. I don't understand how those $50-100 or more monthly bills are worth it.
wkrausmannJan 29, 2011
For me, justification is in the unlimited data. I live in an area where the network is excellent.
Closed AccountJan 29, 2011
You couldmaybe try living an ACTUAL life once in awhile.
Seriously...do you think that you are really goingto say "I wish I spent MORE time online." on your deathbed? Because NO ONE will ever say that.
On day you will wake up at age 50 and realize what a waste you have made by never allowing yourself to be offline.
zambonilliJan 29, 2011
agreed I do the Tmobile prepaid w/Google Nexus S and it's great. Upgraded from iPhone 2G on the s**tty AT&T network to 3G for the same price with no contract. I don't know why everyone doesn't do this. Maybe the upfront phone cost.
rmad1949Jan 29, 2011
Why don't they [the Government] just put a NFC chip in my ear like I had done with my dog in case he gets lost/stolen? They [the Government] can tell me the chip is for my own good and has absolutely nothing to do with them [the Government] wanting to know where I am every minute, where I shop, how much I spend ($), my wants, needs or possible desires or anything else with the exception of being able to help find me if I need to be found... or pay a bill... and is impossible to leave at home, in the car or get lost... its in my ear... like my dog... whose name is Chip, by the way. Apple can call it 667.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
gr8pumpkinJan 29, 2011
The title should read "Stupid smart phone users are about to be screwed over", but you get more eyes by saying "iPhone".
dylsonJan 30, 2011
Trying to troll iPhone users? Lol. That's like shooting fish in a barrel.
firedude71689Jan 29, 2011
1984 seems like it's right around the corner
myztryJan 29, 2011
People would have to be crazy to entrust their transactions to Telco via their phone. Every tried getting a fraudulent charge off your phone bill.
Telcos aren't even regulated like financial institutions as they fall under telecommunications. It's a disaster waiting to happening.
Closed AccountJan 29, 2011
This won't happen like Dvorak says, but pretty obviously if it became widepsread, they WOULD be regulated.
dujowJan 29, 2011
Don't like this one bit. http://buyzumbadvd.info
Closed AccountJan 29, 2011
Ohhhhhh... IPhone Mafia.
rakeheadJan 29, 2011
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medic427Jan 29, 2011
Why would you even agree if what he is saying is true? How could trust the security of Bank Account to a device that has been jailbroken and will be again. Does not inspire me.
damndjJan 29, 2011
This douche still writes? People still listen to him?
dcjoedogv2Jan 29, 2011
or you can use this technology and, I don't know, pay what you owe to the banks and phone company. I don't see this being a problem if you are responsible with it.
asilentechoJan 29, 2011
This is my response to Dvorak's column:
http://www.mobilified.com/2011/01/john-c-dvorak-warns-everyone-about-an-imaginary-threat/
treborhgilsJan 29, 2011
I have a question for you ! Why is it your text is so blended into the background of your article ? What is it with the soft text and no contrast so every person can read the article easily .. If you want to mute your text by all means continue this style of hard to see print.. Me! I would want every one to be able to read it ...
Oh and please notice I did not try to insult you :)
Thank you
Trebor
asilentechoJan 29, 2011
Thanks, I'll consider changing it. Any thoughts on the actual content?
treborhgilsJan 29, 2011
Paranoia AND Dvorak seem to go hand and hand ! I don’t feel he is so paranoid . I think he just relies on stirring up the pot to keep the public talking about his latest article .. Oh he is a good writer and accomplished one also . But in a huge way he seems to me to be a frustrated comedy writer who never got hired at Saturday Night Live !
I read you article and enjoyed the humor as it is factual and well written .. So many people just seem to cluster words together each week and wonder how come they only get 25 hits on a web page . Thats where Divorak has his nitch . he just comes up with what ever is the worst possible out come and gets it put into print.. hahaha I am envious of his success not jealous
advres3112Jan 29, 2011
How exactly am I, as a current iphone user about to get screwed? Ohh, you mean POSSIBLY, future iphone buyers MAY get screwed. Gotcha! Nice headline moron.
spookydiggJan 29, 2011
No offense to the old dude but seriously it's time to check into the nearest old folks home and eat your mashed peas and carrots
lostngoneJan 29, 2011
I wish I could be paid that kind of money to be a troll... Good for you John!
irish22022Jan 29, 2011
psh.. Android already has NFC. Old news. Anyone who has a nexus knows the NFC is just white noise. Although now that it's on the beloved iPhone, I'm sure it will be like front facing camera. "IF YOU'RE PHONE DOESN'T HAVE THIS THEN IT'S NOT AS GOOD MINE".
enantiodromiaJan 29, 2011
I guess you haven't seen all the Android phones with front facing cameras yet.
Let me guess: you rush out to buy one anyway, because the "my phone is better than yours" mentality is about 100x more ferocious among Android lovers.
irish22022Jan 29, 2011
that's laughable. I have a droid x. No front facing camera, though it is better then yours.
enantiodromiaJan 30, 2011
your droid x will be just as useless as my first gen droid, by this time next year.
enjoy chasing the android dragon. hopefully you don't spend too much before you realize two year contracts are going to suck when you have to upgrade your phone every year :)
irish22022Jan 31, 2011
it's the smartphone dragon, not only the android dragon. And only noobs sign 2 year contracts. Verizon does one years bro, get on the train.
randy1711Jan 29, 2011
I'm sorry,
Apple will create a feature on their IPhone and give monetary control to a phone company?
enantiodromiaJan 29, 2011
Someone should tell Dvorak that the Alex Jones show is just pretend.
cthellisJan 29, 2011
Just saw that dick-nut's face and had to bury it. Because Dvorak is a wanker.
xnerdcorexJan 29, 2011
NFC = RFID
ljseinfeldJan 29, 2011
This just in: John Dvorak talks smack about the latest Apple product in order to drive traffic towards his articles / website.
It's almost like there's some way he's getting paid per click, or something...
enantiodromiaJan 30, 2011
you = winner
phphreakJan 29, 2011
Dvorak is a joke and he is irrelevant in so many ways.
fubemanJan 30, 2011
Since when has John C. Dvorak been relevant? Jeesh, this guy is the Chicago Cubs of predictions. It's almost like whatever Dvorak says is going to fail (and he says that a lot) you can pretty much bet the bank it WILL succeed. Apple will fail, the iPhone will fail, the iPad, Wi-Fi, USB 2.0, etc, etc.
All Jon's interested is hearing his own voice and his own ramblings. That, and to drive traffic to his site. Now THAT'S predictable!
carriage4hireJan 30, 2011
After all, you can stall the bank, and what can they really do, anyway? You stall the phone company and you are disconnected from the world.
Do not let AT&T or Verizon or any phone company anywhere near your day-to-day financial transaction business!
You've been warned.
MejoresChopsJan 30, 2011
Pedazo de maquina el iphone
suite307Jan 30, 2011
Guy's been spewing that kind of crap for a while now. Let's just put a star next to his name so he can be proud of himself.
p4tr1ckJan 30, 2011
Aha! the source is not credible, which proves that the idea is bulls**t!
I've just read the first page of comments, and I must say, I think the idea of the article warrants consideration. I don't care if John Dvorak said it or not.
Closed AccountJan 30, 2011
Because if history has shown anything, it has shown us that Americans are great at handling money and debt, so we should make it easier for them to use their credit cards.
iPhones are cool and all, but I do not see the point in using something like that unless it helps you in your career and those kinds of reasons. The iphone will retail at $700 full price by Verizon. WTF? Thats how much my round-trip ticket to Italy cost. Plus the costs of the iphone use plans.. Who the hell pays for this s**t.
ruarctbJan 30, 2011
Verizon supposedly will give you a rebate, bringing it down closer to the ATT price.
enantiodromiaJan 30, 2011
see, that is the problem when you have a generation of people who grew up with subsidized phone hardware, they don't know how much things actually cost.
the iphone _should_ cost $700, because it's a tiny multi touch computer with wifi and bluetooth and mobile voice and fast mobile data which is also a full multimedia computer which also plays first rate handheld games, while at the same time being very small, well built, durable, while at the same time looks attractive to most consumers.
i used to sell $500 mobile phones all day long in 1992, which could not do 0.000001% of what an iPhone can do today.
noctuJan 30, 2011
I may not be an apple fan but I have no problem with them however I do have a problem with at&t and trusting a company like that to handle my money in any way.
its not going to happen
illinestJan 30, 2011
iphone users are screwed over the day they buy their overpriced piece of crap, doubly so because they're convinced that they like it.
enantiodromiaJan 30, 2011
You realize the irony of your comment, right? That it sounds at this point like a parrot or a sheep saying the same thing over and over again?
masivemunkeyJan 30, 2011
Wow I did not mean to digg this crappy story. Where the f**k is my undigg option?!
kc9eciJan 30, 2011
John C. Dvorak hasn't been relative in over 25 years.
ruarctbJan 30, 2011
This sure is some Reynolds Wrap level stuff..
matt88Jan 30, 2011
The article is more about AT&T or Verizon screwing smart phone customers over more than about Apple. I don't trust phone companies either - so chill out Apple fan boys.
gypsieJan 30, 2011
I have not read the article yet, but I have not read an article on Apple by Dvorak that would prove to be right. Poor guy stays in the headlines by stirring s**t.
department999Jan 30, 2011
he is lying