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karlvizmatikSep 8, 2010
oh come on, are you kidding me!? it's not even a story. It's blurb in an online tabloid. It also hit FP with 0 (zero) comments and 42 diggs. How's that "algorithm" fix going, ... Kevin?
gerrymacSep 8, 2010
Better then spam. oh wait thats on the front page now?
FPSmotoSep 9, 2010
*than
We still have to have standards even if the new Digg does not.
b3n87Sep 8, 2010
When people started moaning about Digg v4, I genuinely believed that after a few days, everyone would shut up and carry on as normal.
How wrong I was.... its like a ghost town now?
themachine1Sep 8, 2010
Is it a ghost town or you just a tumbleweed hater? Human you had your chance now its tumbleweed's turn.
uruururrSep 8, 2010
i was just thinking this myself. its spooky empty here.
garhentSep 9, 2010
The actual Digg v.4 is here:
reddit.com
Kevin did a kick ass job on that implementation. Not sure what he was thinking about for Digg.com. I'm thinking he had a wet dream and decided to turn it into the code that is Digg.com
boulderbumSep 9, 2010
I'm no fan of the new Digg, but Reddit is basically unreadable. Seriously. The formatting makes it feel like a link farm you stumble upon when you mistype a URL.
hazelloSep 9, 2010
The content would make for a pretty damn strange link farm, however.
slippehSep 9, 2010
Seriously. The incessant preaching about Reddit is absolutely hilarious, because after 5 minutes on that site I wanted to kill myself. Absolutely atrocious, atrocious web design. Horrible. The content doesn't even come close to making up for that crap.
themusicalduckSep 9, 2010
Yeah. It's weird how the top stories all have about half what they used to get.
I assume that indicates how many people have stopped coming here.
hazelloSep 9, 2010
I seem to see a lot less totally useless comments, like memes or ASCII Picards, though. Perhaps there's an upside?
inkswampSep 9, 2010
I still peek at the front page once a day and the comments if a given story really seems interesting enough to bother, but I don't participate in Digg much anymore at all. I don't like this new version of the site. The changes sapped the energy out of the site. Too many pointless changes and good features removed--all minor things by themselves, but it adds up.
I know, I know... what's the excuse? That they changed database? I don't buy it. I've developed sites based on databases and the entire site is just a big front end for it. You can swap out the database underneath with minimal changes to the site. That's a ridiculous excuse.
But whatever. It's like that old saying--if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
leamancSep 9, 2010
Digg was broke, to some extent. The hold that power users had over the site was just crazy, and the system was too easily gamed by any organized group, as evidenced by Digg Patriots. But I think we would all have the power users back at this point...and mass bury campaigns would have eventually been exposed, just like Digg Patriots were.
allaboutdogSep 8, 2010
I think there is a huge chance for google to be on the top of music industries. This will be a big challenge for apple.
spuy767Sep 8, 2010
The only reason google wants to do this is in order to gather more information on people to use with paid search. In every single service google as released it is in the ToS that anonymous information is going to be collected. That's what google does, every other venture that Google enters into is superfluous to paid search.
boulderbumSep 9, 2010
I wouldn't say many people had a chance against Apple, but I think Google has a fighting chance!
I also think the main reason Google has such an opportunity is because iPhone has lost market share to Android due to the fact that the Apple phone is only on AT&T. Maybe one day, Apple will look back and realize that an exclusive carrier agreement with their phone company of choice was a big mistake.
statusquorulesSep 8, 2010
Apple FTW! Googles a search company
g8kprSep 8, 2010
I had me at "torontosun.com". Literally, once I saw that, i stopped reading, as I knew that it was either
A)total bulls**t
B)misleading, misrepresenting, or just plain wrong with facts and misquotes
C)total conjecture
D)hearsay
E)all of the above
hipmanSep 8, 2010
Any relation to sun.co.uk?.
lordphoenyxSep 9, 2010
None what so ever. The Toronto Sun is a daily Newspaper in Toronto
Closed AccountSep 8, 2010
....Wooooosh
slippehSep 9, 2010
Haha I'm surprised the Toronto Sun is even getting s**t on Digg. Man.. reading that paper I facepalm at least once per page.
rgathrightSep 8, 2010
I am glad Google is in the mix. Should create more content delivery tools for Droid X users.
readmeSep 8, 2010
Good luck with that, Google. Going after Apple in music is like going after Google in search.
peifengkuangSep 8, 2010
At least they are trying.
macparrotSep 8, 2010
Not everyone has an iOS device and the music downloading competition is far from over. Apple certainly has a huge lead, but there's plenty of room for others. A lot of it will depend on how syncing is accomplished. It has to be easy or Google won't stand a chance. One thing in their favor ironically is the one thing the music labels fought so hard against and that was the elimination of DRM. People can now move their entire music collection out of iTunes if they want to use something else.
Closed AccountSep 9, 2010
yeah - maybe google will also make a kickass app to sync your devices. iTunes is a bloated pile. apple really needs to revamp it.
leamancSep 9, 2010
I know this is a popular thing to say, but why exactly do you find iTunes bloated? Because it does too many things? Because it requires QuickTime to be installed on Windows? Because it installs a little helper daemon to look for when an iPod is mounted?
I use iTunes on a Mac and find it fast enough (so QuickTime is already there), and I find it fast enough and just ignore the features I don't need. Having "iTunes Helper" running in the background doesn't bother me a whole lot.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
Johny29Sep 8, 2010
google has greater mass of fans.. i think it'll go in favor of google
jasani2Sep 8, 2010
Google will have to differentiate themselves from Apple. A few good ways will be:
1. Access to paid music or libraries via the cloud/web. I want to be able to access my music anywhere.
2. Music sharing or loaning via the cloud or web. If I have a song that I know my friend will like, I want to seamlessly send them a sms/email with a link to the song that lets them listen to it a few times or for a few days.
3. Integrate pandora or last.fm into playlists. If i have a playlist that ends, keep the music going using pandora to choose the songs. Or mix up playlists by directly adding recommendations from pandora/last.fm (either from songs on the device like Genius playlists or from streaming online).
Obviously, integration with android devices is a prerequisite. Google must offer features to really advance the industry.
macparrotSep 8, 2010
1. Agreed. This is the next big step. If say Apple or Google knows what songs I've purchased, then they should allow me to download them to authorized devices whenever and wherever I want. Probably WiFi first and it probably won't happen if I leave the country the content was purchased from as licensing is different in each country
2. Might happen eventually, but content copyright holders would s**t a brick. Hmmm, that makes me like it more <grin>
3. Not sure if this one would fly. They already hate Pandora and chances are they aren't interested in any further concessions.
Easy integration with Android devices is the only way they could gain quick traction. If they REALLY wanted to tweak Apple's goat, they would offer apps for their music store on devices other than Android as well.
Closed AccountSep 9, 2010
yeah google has enough money - why don't they really differentiate themselves and just buy the music industry and give us all music for free. No wait - someone already did that.
inkswampSep 9, 2010
"Google will have to differentiate themselves from Apple"
Isn't it sad that most of Google's products nowadays have to be prefaced with that comment? I miss the old Google that wasn't trying to walk in some other company's footsteps and pulled jaw-dropping ideas out of the blue that nobody else had thought to do. Feels like that Google is gone, replaced by a me-too Google.
jasani2Sep 9, 2010
I am not really sure that google has done anything revolutionary. Rather, they just improve on what's out there and integrate it into one platform based on flash. Maybe google earth is revolutionary, but not very ubiquitous.
usma1000Sep 8, 2010
Anyone else hate that new iTunes logo?
erichw1504Sep 8, 2010
Google is a search company? Google is a multinational public cloud computing, Internet search, and advertising technologies corporation. Google hosts and develops a number of Internet-based services and products.
leamancSep 9, 2010
Yeah, but the only thing they make money at is search and its related context-appropriate advertising. Therefore, in the eyes of the people with money, they are a "search company."
jmferrisSep 8, 2010
If they tie it in well with Voice Search, it could be a winner. Give me a paid subscription service that lets me stream any album on demand, and I would be stoked. "Listen to {artist}; album named {album}" while my phone is docked would be great.
The key is that it needs to be polished from the get-go. No beta crap, or limited feature set. It should be able to compete from day one. With the surge in Android device adoption and the upcoming tablets coming out, this really is a no-brainer for Google.
As for the people who want to point out the article is from the Toronto Sun, so be it. There are many legit sources with articles that predate theirs. Maybe not the best source of an article, but it is extremely widely talked about recently,
westvalleyprosSep 8, 2010
Has anybody seen Google Instant. This is going to change how we search http://www.indianapolisseotraining.com/google-instant-changes-how-we-search/
imcontrerasSep 8, 2010
The true is that Google it's not longer Apple BFF first the Android and now the Google Music and Google TV they are going to fight hard. Best part for us, will be the winners. Don't forget Amazon in the mix.
zunipusSep 8, 2010
"The music industry is rejoicing about the Google vs. Apple music war."
How odd. Apparently the ridiculous, RIAA afflicted, music industrial complex is hoping that Google will bow low and lick their boots, unlike Apple who have fought for sane customer prices and digital rights since the inception of the iTunes store. The industry wants control over everything again so they can continue their reign of terror against their customers, aka their own marketing moron 'War' against the consumer. This of course is ass-h**iness.
But I don't see that happening at all. Instead I see a price war with zero incentive for Google or Apple to lick anyone's nasty old boots. I see the customer winning here while the mean old music industrial complex getting yet-another major kick-in-the-balls, again thanks to their unprofessional and customer-predatory biznizz attitudes. Will they every grow up and catch up with the technology driven world? Will they ever discover that it is their customers that keep them in business and treat them accordingly?
bdbrSep 9, 2010
"...unlike Apple who have fought for sane customer prices and digital rights since the inception of the iTunes store."
You can't be serious. Until Amazon came along and started selling DRM-free music, the only thing Apple did with their DRM was regularly update it to break any DRM-removal tools. Sure, they heralded themselves as being pro-consumer with static pricing (the same price as everyone else), until Amazon got variable pricing and it frequently turned out to be less than than Apple's static price. Of course, Jobs is a master at making likely-forced changes appear to be his idea. Artists get 8 to 12 cents per song on iTunes, lower than just about anywhere else, and RIAA label artists get front-page advertising.
You're right in the second paragraph, though. The RIAA labels only want "competition" to avoid any hint of monopoly, and they're itching for a big player who will get in bed with them as much as Apple.
thefirewireSep 8, 2010
WTF why is everyone trying to copy each other these days? continue to innovate instead of imitate. The reason a company like google became huge in the first place because it tended to march to its own beat and opted to push for innovation, but it seems like recently its been just a bitter ex-girlfriend trying to prove a point.
ulloveitSep 9, 2010
I don't think they're copying it. They just saw a bunch of unsatisfied customers and that was their opportunity. It's more like fixing it. Especially with the new iTunes, there's a lot to fix. Clearly, Apple is in a near-monopoly when it comes to the digital world of music, but clearly, not everyone is happy with Apple. The bar is set high for Google, they better not disappoint. But I do agree that it has been a while since we have seen anything new. I just don't really see what else they could come up with...
themusicalduckSep 9, 2010
Chrome OS is looking to be something pretty innovative.
jonnierodSep 9, 2010
You suck. You make Digg suck. Leave Digg if you hate it so much.
cruzdreSep 9, 2010
Google is putting their hand into just about everything. Would love to see Google continue to kick ass, like it, almost, always does.
awgg919Sep 9, 2010
if google goes DRM free and doesn't use dumb ass "points" (...zune) then i will consider leaving Amazon mp3 and giving google a try
sadchildSep 9, 2010
agreed.
amazon mp3 > itunes > zune.
kingmattusSep 9, 2010
...cheaper music + poorer musicians, unless they're not greedy, oh wait