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hbazerbashiOct 26, 2010
MacBook Air internals are not good for designers or developers ... so weak.
axxxulOct 26, 2010
Maybe it's not a computer for designers or developers… who represent a very small fraction of the world.
johnny1029Oct 27, 2010
Really? A small fraction of the world. Commercials, t-shirts, websites, adds, poster, album covers, book covers, video game developers, software developers? Any site you visit was done by a designer so don't be saying that they are a "small" fraction of the world.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
thenikolaOct 27, 2010
What percentage of people do you think fall into that category? 1-2% maybe? I'd say 1/100 or even 1/50 is a very small fraction.
axxxulOct 27, 2010
Remember when Google interviewed people in the streets and asked them if they knew what a browser was? 10% or so of them knew. In one of the most developed countries in the world.
Lke I said. Very small fraction.
lilrabbit129Oct 27, 2010
yeah but how many designers did it take to do each one? How many pieces were made by the same designer?
johnny1029Oct 27, 2010
What I am saying is there is different types of designers. I don't care if you bury me and I don't care if argue with me there's is bigger percentage than you think. By the way architects ARE designers so it doesn't matter if you think there's a small percentage or not because designers are what built the world around you...period. You wouldn't even be wearing comfortable clothes if it wasn't for them.
durant0sOct 27, 2010
@johnny1029, when did they ever say designers didn't create everything around us? They just said designers make up a very small percentage of the overall population which is a true statement. The internet/computer progams are created by about 0.0001% of the general population that uses them.
johnny1029Nov 5, 2010
Apparently no one is getting what I am stating yet so I'll make it perfectly clear in one simple to read sentence...There are many types of designers in the so I highly doubt that all them put together would be a small fraction. Are you good now people?
dirtyfriesOct 27, 2010
Right...which the Pro is for...
Any typical user needs a normal Macbook. The Air might eliminate those, but the Pro is for...you guessed it, pros. And the Air can't do s**t for them.
kwarren84Oct 28, 2010
A lot of designers and developers use Mac. When you look for a job doing video or /graphic design/photo work, they usually want you to know how to do it on a Mac.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
montana111Oct 28, 2010
A small fraction of the world, but a large percentage of Apple users.
thatspsychoticOct 28, 2010
really? the millions of iPhones and iPads sold all went to pros? doubtful.
Closed AccountOct 28, 2010
ou know who also represents a small fraction? Those who want something that light to begin with.
The VAST majority of computer users still keeptheir computers in one place 99% of hte time. On their computer desk or near their couch for a notebook.
And most of those that DO want something on the go will probably already have gotten an iPad.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
angelbunnyOct 27, 2010
I disagree. For generalized compiling, ssh on a remote server is the way to go, regardless how powerful or weak your computer is.
Now a 13 inch monitor imho is to small for dev work imho. If they had a 15 in macbook air right now, I'd buy it up in a heartbeat.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
wilhoitmOct 27, 2010
I played with the 13" MacBook Air and I was very impressed but I still think I need a 15" screen for Xcode.
area206Oct 28, 2010
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persiyanOct 28, 2010
They are both the same resolution... !!!
angelbunnyNov 1, 2010
that is not the point. it is easy to get migraines/headaches from staring at a screen with small text to long.
csdcoOct 27, 2010
Actually, even the highest-end Air ($1,600) is not capable of opening an average iPhoto library without some serious stuttering, nor is it capable of creating an iMovie project that's over 10 minutes long with a lot of effects and transitions (for example, the kind of "demo" videos that are shown when a new version of iLife comes out). Or of recording in GarageBand with any decent latency.
I have many clients that bought an iMac or Air and are frustrated that the whole iLife experience doesn't work the way it's been advertised.
In short, you have to have a more pro-ish Mac to do a lot of the things that are advertised. The Air is really only useful for non-intensive apps; itunes, browsing, document editing, etc. I am very familiar with all ranges of Macs.
persiyanOct 28, 2010
Um... I used to use an old 2007 base model white Macbook which pales in speed comparison to even the 11" Air and it was very usable and fast when I worked with PS, Illustrator, Flash, Dreamweaver, Premiere... so I have no idea what kind of demanding clients you're getting?!
max1001Oct 28, 2010
Is this the old Air or new? The new one has SSD so I don't see why there would be lag when opening iPhoto Library.
persiyanOct 28, 2010
In benchmarks the 11" seems to be slightly slower than a white Macbook, the current white Macbook. I used to use a 13" white Macbook back in 2007 with Photoshop, Illustrator, Dreamweaver, Flash, and so forth and it worked fine, of course now I have a 27" iMac but my point is it's fine for designers and developers on the go. Also the 13" Air is in fact slightly faster than the 13" Macbook Pro so um yeah... it's not as underpowered as the specs make it out to be.
In fact I was at the Apple store a day or so ago and I played around with a 11" one, it was nearly if not just as fast as my i7 iMac. Just for fun I opened every single app in the dock, within around 10secs it opened them all, iTunes took the longest even though it was one of the first few I clicked, I also played a 720p youtube video and opened 5 or 6 other tabs. Conclusion, everything worked fine, it did slow down a bit, for instance expose got slightly jaggy, but it was still very usable, in fact I want to emphasize on the words 'very usable', also the youtube video kept playing smoothly.
Closed AccountOct 26, 2010
It's interesting how just earlier this year Apple introduced the iPad saying it would replace netbooks, and for a while it appeared that statement was true, but now they have come out with a netbook. An expensive netbook, but it is basically a netbook.
strfxOct 27, 2010
And what does it matter? Their fanboys will buy it anyway. There are even people who have full range: iPhone, iPad, MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, iMac. And why not, it's their money to spend.
I have a Dell Mini 9 and a cheap HP desktop. Fraction of the cost, and they do what I need them to do.
macparrotOct 27, 2010
I've been called a fanboy and here's what I have: An over 4-year old iMac (2.16GHz 24-inch), an over 3-year old MacBook Pro (2.33GHz 15-inch), an iPhone 3GS (didn't like the iPhone 4 long before AntennaGate and ProxSensorGate and whatever other "Gates" have occured since), and an iPad 64GB 3G which has pretty much taken over for the MBP with most tasks.
I'm guessing your Dell Mini 9 and cheap HP desktop won't be around for that longComment is buried, click here to see the rest.
jbarker6Oct 27, 2010
My cheap Hp desktop might only be around half as long as some of your stuff but remember I bought it for a 1/3rd the price. I know you fanboys can't do math but in short, I WIN.
jbarker6Oct 27, 2010
My cheap Hp desktop might only be around half as long as some of your stuff but remember I bought it for a 1/3rd the price. I know you fanboys can't do math but in short, I WIN.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
strfxOct 28, 2010
Since you asked... the desktop is 6 years old, the netbook is 2 years.
shellcaseOct 27, 2010
I've got a Mac Mini (brand new), an iPod Video (5 years old), and a MacBook (5 years old). In agreement with macparrot, I doubt the Dell and HP will match any of these items in lifespan. Heck, my 6 year old iPod still technically works - just needs a battery pack.
superherofiveOct 27, 2010
I'm running a first gen core 2 duo self built system and it's been rocking hard, much harder than your macs, since 2006. New games came out, you know those things that macs don't have, and I could freely and openly upgrade my graphics card, which I did. I can also max out the RAM for a fraction it costs you to do so for the exact same RAM.
If you buy a Mac you're buying a brand. You are NOT buying a computer. It's all about the prestige of owning a watered down PC in a shiny case.
Yes you're all stupid for owning their products. Yes you will bury this comment. Yes you would buy an aluminum cased turd if Steve told you too.
shellcaseOct 27, 2010
I'll enthuse you here too:
I also work in IT, and I have built several home gaming computers. Unfortunately, I don't have time for gaming anymore when I am responsible to imaging and managing the hundreds of computers on my campus (only 20 of which are macs).
But, I am also a designer on the side, so when I go home, I like to use my Mac primarily for that (ergo, a Mac mini, with non-Mac peripherals). So, before you go assuming I am a 'fanboy' who buys everything Jobs sells me, think again. Hell, I didn't even buy an iPhone or a smart phone until my work provided it for me. And even then, I specifically requested the 3GS (it was that or the iPhone 4, since we have some small arrangement with AT&T), because I didn't want to worry about signal in the already abysmal signal situation in semi-rural Wisconsin.
I am not buying a 'brand', I am buying relative reliability and ease-of-use when I want to come home, move the mouse around, and design, after a hard day's work of 'oh s**t, this motherboard failed and now I have to RMA it and replace all the components onto the new motherboard'.
There's no point in me building a PC as I don't game anymore, except the occasional bout of TF2 (which is available on Mac, and really the only reason I own it), and again, no time.
Thanks for assuming.
mutanthiveOct 27, 2010
I agree with @shellcase - I work in IT all day long with Windows and Linux servers. When I get home, I don't want to think about hardware any longer or how everything interconnects to share media, etc. So, I use Mac's at home so that everything just reliably syncs up with as little input from me as possible.
macparrotOct 27, 2010
"I'm running a first gen core 2 duo self built system and it's been rocking hard, much harder than your macs, since 2006."
GOOD for you! Here's a cookie! Except most people don't build their own unless you mean you're running OS X and it's rocking hard.
"New games came out, you know those things that macs don't have, and I could freely and openly upgrade my graphics card"
Again most people don't do that either. And I can run through BootCamp pretty much all those games too. If or when they come out for the Mac (Steam is your friend), then I can do that natively.
"I can also max out the RAM for a fraction it costs you to do so for the exact same RAM."
Wait, let me get this straight. You built your own system and then bought ram from Dell or HP? OH! MAYBE you mean you bought it from NewEgg or TigerDirect which any Mac user can do at the same price?
Most of the rest of what you said is the same typical nonsense I've been hearing for years as more and more people decide to give Macs a try. It really sounds like desperation on your part. There are plenty of things to get upset with Apple and their policies, the things you've said aren't really any of those.
ljseinfeldOct 28, 2010
@superherofive..... You obviously don't really know that much about Apple computers as they have been able to use standard RAM, Drives, and other parts for well over a decade. You're not gonna change out a processor, or video card (on most), but that segment is not really part of the market Apple was trying to reach.
The implication that you occupy some electronic 'moral high ground' because you put some parts together to make a 'Hard Rocking' commodity PC is childish.
If I wanted the same system, I'd have one.. Any person with 300 bucks can do the same.
Closed AccountOct 28, 2010
What the f**k? Most people keep their PCs for 5 years or more. Really...what caused you to remove yourself from reality so far that you think most people get a new computer every couple years?
shellcaseOct 28, 2010
The fact that as a student, 80% of my friends who came to college with PCs or laptops - average consumers (their parents in most cases, bought it for them) - ended up replacing them within the first 3 years. Anyone outside the tech-savvy crowd, which I understand is hard for some people to see outside of, especially on digg, often replace their computer at about that same rate.
My father has gone through about 3 laptops, and him, being from abroad and very un-tech savvy recently asked me "Why am I buying so many new laptops when I could just get an iPad or a MacBook, I would've saved a lot of money buy now".
No matter how you spin it, Macs tend to last longer in the hands of the average consumer. Worse comes to worse with a Mac, and I'll admit it, a hard-drive dies and you replace it for maybe $80. Still beats constantly changing PCs...etc. etc.
I could go into the benefits of ease-of-us of Time Machine for use as back-up and restoration, but I don't need to advertise Apple.
Synopsis: Average consumers keep PCs for around 3 years, and average consumers who happen to have Macs (which I admit, is very few because of the cost), tend to keep them far longer than they would their PC.
bosskeyOct 28, 2010
Yeah, sometimes I run into someone buying a new PC who's only had theirs half as long as I've had my Mac, and when that happens, I just laugh. Maybe I paid an "Apple tax" of some kind, but after you figure I've been able to use mine twice as long as that guy, in the end I paid less per year to use my Mac.
bosskeyOct 28, 2010
shellcase and mutanthive are two examples of an important non-fanboy demographic that the Apple haters simply cannot account for.
They are highly experienced in building their own Windows or Linux PCs, to the point where it is their job to maintain a fleet of them, and despite all their deep experience with everything the PC world has to offer - or maybe *because* of their experiences - when choosing the computer they would pay for with their own money, they consciously choose the Mac.
I, too, have been very satisfied with how many years a Mac can stay in service.
forgeshieldOct 28, 2010
They both make their points very well without trying to belittle anyone else. This is a nice change from the usual crap spewing fanboy (not just apple) like macparrot. I don't like apple computer because they lack affordable options to customize freely. Everything apple does seems very closed off and keeps you from doing a whole lot with the hardware or software without first cracking a few things open and voiding your warranty or paying out loads of money for the necessary hardware replacements or upgrades. This is why I stick to Ubuntu. It has a lot of the things that I'll need to use already installed, and a handy software center that has most of the software I'll ever need outside of the ordinary. Best of all it's free and no more time consuming than setting up any other computer unless you want it to be ;). I think if people can get past the idea that everything linux is for the hardcore then we'd see a lot more linux users since for many its just more practical. This is just my opinion though
macparrotOct 28, 2010
Actually forgeshield if you had read many comments from me you'd know that I happen to agree with a lot of what you just said. Their lack of or ignoring of some of different computer segments has cheesed me off more than once, but I really do prefer OS X over Windows (though Windows 7 is one pretty nice OS in it's own right). Especially in hardware. I'm married with kids and can't afford to go out and get the ONE computer that Apple makes that allows for changing some basic components. I recently swapped out the HD in my 24-inch iMac (long out of warranty) and there is just no reason that it had to be as hard as it was. Design aside, I really don't care how thin my desktop computer is. This one is nearly at the end of it's useful life and I'm seriously considering going the hackintosh route for my next one. I don't agree with you about software though. Software is made to typically run on one OS and (on the Mac side anyway), Apple is as open as any other OS maker. iOS is of course a different story.
phphreakOct 28, 2010
Let's not pretend that Windows is anywhere near as good as Mac OS X.
Closed AccountOct 28, 2010
Lets not pretend that your opinions matter to anyone but yourself.
macparrotOct 28, 2010
Sorry I disagree. Windows 7 is a pretty good OS and it does what a lot of people want from an OS. A preference is one thing but a blanket statement that something is better than another thing based on what you like is something else.
koparOct 28, 2010
Fanboy, liberal, gentlemen, illegal. Why do people think it's ever okay to generalize and denigrate their fellow humans? This is why the social and political discourse in this country has crawled back into the dark ages where back and white, dogmatic viewpoints are favored over rational discourse and mutual respect. Even when it comes to something as trivial as a computer or a video game system, we seem incapable of recognizing that your brother is NOT indeed a sheep, a nazi or a socialist, but somebody with equal life experience and personal preferences. If somebody is happy with a $3000 apple laptop and glows about it GOOD! They are happy! They contributed to the economy! Hoorah! Same goes for the guy with the HP. Sheesh.
lilrabbit129Oct 27, 2010
SJ said that he didn't like netbooks, which were characterized as having
1. Too small of a screen
2. Too little power.
The iPad competes well with both those. The MacBook Air has considerably more power. Its debatable if the smaller Air is "too small"
toddyb3Oct 27, 2010
to only this the Air has in common with a netbook is the that is lacks an optical drive. dont be a hater. Go buy ur "HP" version of the macbook air in 8 months from now.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
jstock23Oct 27, 2010
You know netbooks are supposed to be stripped down and cheap just for browsing the web and checking email? You can do loads more than that with a Macbook Air lol.
area206Oct 28, 2010
This thing is not a netbook. It is light and less powerful but its not and underpowered, tiny screened, piece of s**t with a keyboard designed for the keebler elves. I used to have a netbook and it was a real bummer. This is not that bad.
Closed AccountOct 28, 2010
Except it IS underpowers for hte money. EXTREMELY so. Less than a netbook that sells for half the price.
macparrotOct 28, 2010
Has a better screen than any netbook you can name. Has more Flash memory than any netbook you could (probably) name. Is a solidly built cast aluminum which is better than any plastic netbook you could name. Has a real C2D processor as compared to all those Atom based netbooks. Is it more than all those netbooks? Yes, but it is also in almost every way better
koparOct 28, 2010
Don't forget the benchmarks putting it within 80% of a MBP for most tasks, often tromping it soundly in disk-intensive tasks like copying, compression, etc. There's also the company's reputation for customer support and satisfaction, tight integration with the single most popular line of phones and portable music devices on earth, a consumer-centric OS packed with high quality applications to take advantage of the unique features of the OS and on and on.
But yeah. Totally a netbook. O_o
persiyanOct 28, 2010
Both have notebook processors, both have larger screens with dense pixel counts for higher resolution, in fact the 11"'s res is equivalent to a 13" laptop. Both have normal sized keyboards, which anyone who's used a netbook will acknowledge how crappy their small keyboards are. The 11" Air has a larger trackpad than pretty much most 15" laptops, not to mention netbooks. But yes it's pretty small and thin, and light, but it's NOT a netbook. Yes they are overpriced for what they are speced, but they are smaller, lighter, a lot better trackpads than any laptop, sturdier, better customer support, and they are actually very fast for what they are speced at, I suggest people go use one before they start bashing it's low specs.
Closed AccountOct 28, 2010
Fine...but move up to $500 (still less than half) and you absolutely ARE going to get similar specs.
persiyanOct 28, 2010
Point me to one with completely similar specs for $500...
rnguthertzOct 27, 2010
It's going to be interesting to see what they do with the Macbook's come time for a refresh. I have a feeling this is their way of giving them the axe.
They also shortened the gap between the Air and the Macbook Pro, which could mean a wide variety of changes are imminent (better 13" Pro's sooner than later possibly?)
If my 15" MBP wasn't my main system, I would strongly consider purchasing the 13" Air.
amaoicanOct 27, 2010
The world is not ready for an SSD-based machine to be Apple's entry-level laptop.
AnnibaleLucioOct 27, 2010
World might not be, but I am. I'm enjoying my MBP with SSD, and if I didn't have it, new Air looks great to me.
persiyanOct 28, 2010
What is that even supposed to mean?!
melthornalOct 27, 2010
I fail to see how this machine is at all useful. The size difference is meaningless. The hardware is weak. This is one expensive side grade, and I bet a lot of Apple enthusiasts are going to eat it up. But for a regular person, I see no reason to buy this device. Maybe if it were 300$.
This thing is running essentially 3 year old technology with a fancy hard drive..
chrisvazquez1Oct 27, 2010
You've obviously never used OSX Snow Leopard. OSX runs faster than any Windows or Linux distro any day. My 2.4 Ghz with Intel integrated graphics runs and renders better than my Core i3 Dell laptop with a dedicated graphics chip with twice the ram. Hardware isn't the full story, software is the other half.
I will give you the overpriced part but you do have to understand that it has a full unibody aluminum design, expensive screen, and an expensive ssd. For what you get from the Air it's worth the price.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
melthornalOct 27, 2010
You are obviously full of yourself. I used to be an apple repairmen, specializing in repairing macbooks and imacs. I have also owned several macs, including an imac sitting right next to me right now. I know my way around macbook hardware, OSX, and all that jazz.
I don't give a f**k what my computer is made of, as long as it does the job. Why should I trade in my 3 year old laptop that has almost identical specs to buy this? For the SSD? I can install an SSD in my current laptop for 80$. Big whoop.
chrisvazquez1Oct 27, 2010
If you know your way around Apple products then why complain if you know what I'm telling you is the truth? You just said you don't care what your laptop is made of as long as it does the job. Some people want an expensive, cool looking computer, that does the job. You're not the market for this.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
thechauvinistOct 27, 2010
ooOOoOooH "full unibody aluminum design" !!! !!! !!!
This is me making fun of you. If this thing had adamantium, I *might* get a boner about it's physical appearence.
strfxOct 27, 2010
Dude, have you seen how slick it looks?
That, combined with the fact that the hardware is weak but not total crap, and that it's only overpriced by a factor of 2 or so, basically means that enough people will buy it. And that's how Apple's business works.
Closed AccountOct 28, 2010
No one bought the first MacBook Air, which was also slick.
Face it...in the actually computer market, Apple is still nothing but a minor player.
style001Oct 27, 2010
the hard drive is not even fancy. It is a flash drive, not an SSD. Want to know the difference? Compare your USB thumb drive with an SSD. Please stop saying the air has an SSD, even Apple doesn't promote it that way.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
persiyanOct 28, 2010
You're stupid. I'm serious. I'd call you ignorant, but ignorant people keep their mouths shut when they don't know something.
angelbunnyOct 27, 2010
some people like ultra portable laptops. If it isn't for you, then it isn't for you. No need to bitch to the world about it.
melthornalOct 27, 2010
The i5 replaced the core 2 last year. And a new line is replacing the i5 in a few weeks. Remind me again why I would want to invest in computer hardware that is two generations old?
blackinthmiddleOct 27, 2010
While your argument is valid, I find it *incredibly* funny that there are so many f**king anti-mac zealots that insist on s**tting on Apple every chance they get. What the f**k is your deal, dude? Relax already! We get it, you don't think this MBA is worth it. Why the f**k do you care if someone wants to take *their* hard-earned money (not yours) and spend it on an air?Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
melthornalOct 27, 2010
You sound like a fanboy. Someone points out legitimate criticism and you respond by trying to belittle and insult them. Great form.
ljseinfeldOct 28, 2010
Proven track-record.
persiyanOct 28, 2010
The processor is way better than anything you'd find in a $300 netbook/notebook. In fact I dare you to find me a netbook/notebook similarly speced for $300...
dodger2020Oct 27, 2010
wow, that guy is the epitome of apple fanboys. someone get him a tissue.
angelbunnyOct 27, 2010
I agree. The weirdest part is everything he said is 100% true.
milpheyOct 27, 2010
It’s hard to know what else to say. This is the computer I’ve been waiting for. It makes me feel foolish for spending almost three grand on a brand new souped-up MacBook Pro six months ago. I just can’t think of a time I’ll ever want to or need to turn it on again.
Takes complete F*cking moron to new heights... these people are such brainwashed idiots with more money than sense that it scares me...
Perhaps The Oatmeal said it best - http://theoatmeal.com/comics/apple
oatmealOct 27, 2010
Oatmeal will gargle balls for macbook air
paradigm1220Oct 27, 2010
We should talk.
chrisvazquez1Oct 27, 2010
I'd be happy to take that Macbook Pro off your hands =D. My 13' black Macbook is just purring to be replaced.
tburke261Oct 27, 2010
Sure, I'd love to run Photoshop (events, thousands of photos through Aperture) and FCP (1080p, some heavy edits) on an MBA instead of an i7 MBP. Not like I need eSATA or even Firewire 800. How about gigabit? Or a anti-glare display? For some people the MBA works, but it's not replacing the MBP for many MBP buyers.
On a sidenote, I feel I need an i7 just to run Flash on Mac. It's really annoying.
darklight099Oct 27, 2010
i completely agree.. it's obvious this article's writer doesn't really do anything hardware intensive to actually need a mbp i can't believe he can even make a claim as large as "goodbye macbook pro." ridiculous
beestickOct 27, 2010
fanboys are nuts
persiyanOct 28, 2010
Haters are on the same level of nutsness...
mikborOct 27, 2010
Can someone explain "instant on"? I hardly shut down my 2007 MBP anymore and just close the lid, when I open the lid the computer wakes up pretty instantly. Heck my XP pc does the same thing and that was in 2002. Why is this "instant on" different and why is everyone falling over themselves talking about it?
milpheyOct 27, 2010
Because it saves apple fanboys 1-2 seconds that could be spent telling people how great their apple product is and how buying it made them unique!
milpheyOct 27, 2010
Because it saves apple fanboys 1-2 seconds that could be spent telling people how great their apple product is and how buying it made them unique!
mizzikeOct 27, 2010
When you close the lid, your MBP goes to sleep. You open the lid, it wakes from sleep.
That's different from turning the Air off completely, and turning it back on. Some people still turn computers off at the end of the day. Or, they have to reboot for some reason. When those times come, the "instant on" you're talking about is the 15 seconds the author had to wait until the computer was ready to use--from off to ready to use in 15 seconds. Compare that with the 2-3 minutes he had to wait for his MBP.
I know, it's not much on paper, but I'm all for a 15 second boot instead of 2-3 minutes. I think we can all agree that's pretty sweet.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
dirtyfriesOct 27, 2010
Apple just bulls**tted everyone again. It's just in sleep. Everyone's computers, including their own, already did this.
blackjackjesterOct 28, 2010
If I had to guess, instead of "power off" it hibernates - and with an SSD, that is practically instant to shut down/restart
persiyanOct 28, 2010
When you put down the lid on a laptop or other Macbooks, a few hours down the line and the computer will need to be charged again. This Air goes into a deeper sleep mode of some sort, haven't read anyone explain it yet, but it's similar to how phones and iPads sleep, so it will last 30 days on sleepmode, meaning you don't ever have to shut it down, may be that's where "Instand On" comes from, you don't have to ever shut it down so it'll always be usable as you open it up. At least that's how I explain it and it makes perfect sense to me...
Nanoo1972Oct 27, 2010
No way in hell I'd give up my 17" MBP for this overpriced, underpowered hunk of aluminum. If I need light computing (browsing, email, etc.) I use my iPad. Hell, flash probably runs like complete crap on the MBA.
persiyanOct 28, 2010
Why are you so angry?! Have you used one yet?! In benchmarks the 11" seems to be slightly slower than a white Macbook, the current white Macbook. Also the 13" Air is in fact slightly faster than the 13" Macbook Pro so um yeah... it's not as underpowered as the specs make it out to be. I used a base model 11" at the Apple store the other day, it was just as snappy as my 27" i7 iMac.
persiyanOct 28, 2010
Also in gaming both the 11" and 13" Airs did better than the 13" Pro.
RuckusMediaOct 27, 2010
Only heard good things about the MacBook Air. Can't wait to try it out!
the4thaggieOct 27, 2010
Goodbye, Techcrunch. Your Articles and Titles are that Bad.
northst4Oct 27, 2010
If you are a die hard apple person yea! There are so many choices in thin and light for less now.
tlong831Oct 27, 2010
digg and macs go together well.. they both s u c k
NeDolMNov 1, 2010
No people that believes Apple advertisements suck ;)
Closed AccountOct 27, 2010
can't everyone in here just shut the f**k up?!
persiyanOct 28, 2010
I wish I had a thousand accounts so I can log in to each and digg this comment.
veganvultureOct 27, 2010
It might eventually take over the MacBook Pro line when the screen size gets bigger, flash becomes cheaper, processor gets faster and all the while keeping a good battery life.
lancertOct 28, 2010
Apple's products are good and all, but I;m kinda getting tired of hearing about them all the time. And seeing Steve Jobs' business card from 1931, like WOW!
therealrayrayOct 28, 2010
HAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA. enjoy ONLY the internet.
NeDolMNov 1, 2010
Touché my friend :p
forgeshieldOct 28, 2010
Not here to say that apple makes crap for products because they don't. They advertise them as the next best thing since sliced bread and people buy into it because its not the thing that gave them all those problems when they were first learning how to use a computer and its damn near idiot proof because you only have a small handful of options for customization. In reality and good chunk of mac owners, and windows users for that matter, would be better off buying a refurbished pc and sticking a copy of ubuntu on it saving them a lot of money and time trying to convince yourself that the next apple product really is worth all the extra money you're paying for it.
Will the MacBook air replace the MacBook Pro? In short no. Netbooks are great on the go but suck for everyday use. Small keyboard, small screen, low specs, and really only good for a few choice things. The biggest redeeming factor is price which you lose with this product.
Furthermore this review looks like someone has barely taken the wrapper off his new toy and is outrageously excited about it like anyone would be with a new gadget. Not very objective at all and it saddens me that people are willing to buy into this ad in disguise.
persiyanOct 28, 2010
It's not a netbook damn it. It doesn't have a small keyboard or screen, the 11" res is as big as the 13" pro, and the 13" air's res is as big as the 15" pro. It's not slow! Where do you people get this s**t from... all the comments in here are pure troll hatred for something nobody seems to even know anything about.
forgeshieldOct 28, 2010
So its a nice netbook but a netbook nonetheless. Thats the market they're selling it to, it serves the same purpose that a netbook serves. Hell I have several professors who are in love with apple and will still call it a netbook and will still say that a regular laptop out performs it.
Btw before you talk about pure troll hatred know this, I've use a macbook pro and a macbook air with semiregularity (iphone app dev and such) and can safely say that the pro out performs the air.
persiyanOct 28, 2010
Um are we talking about the same Airs?! In the new benchmarks the 13" Air outperforms the 13" Pro, and it even has the screen resolution of the 15" Pro.
The 11" is not a netbook, you can't call a netbook something that's not simply because someone else would call it a netbook. 11" laptops are not called netbooks, they are called ultraportable notebooks, because they don't use slow netbook components and are larger. The 11" Air has a regular sized keyboard, bigger screen with a large resolution, and faster components. By any definition it's is not a netbook. Now, would someone who needs a portable light computer like a netbook be willing to consider an 11" Air then so be it. However, you can't call black white.
Closed AccountOct 28, 2010
The market numbers suggest that when it comes to actual computers, people DON'T buy into the hype. Hence thir 5% market share.
djsteelOct 28, 2010
I always romanticize owning a Macbook..then I realize as a programmer they aren't good for it, as a gamer, newer games aren't available, and as a media server, it's incompatible with my 360/PS3.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
ljseinfeldOct 28, 2010
Patently false.
omeezy4sheezyOct 28, 2010
Sorry, I'm not willing to dish out another 1200$ for something that loads slightly quicker. 15 seconds is worth 'waiting' for.
phphreakOct 28, 2010
I just looked at the new MacBook Air benchmarks posted on various sites and decided to buy a quad core iMac instead. I want my computer to not be obsolete in 1 year.
imallvol7Oct 28, 2010
I will never understand Apple products or its users.
Does it really look so pretty that you will pay double for it, when better options exist for less then half the price?
NeDolMNov 1, 2010
WOhoooo finally some one with a brain around here !!!
i mean 8 blocks of people at launch day for a phone thats low on tech compared to other phone out there yet double the price?? djeezezzz then that useless tablet as if there isnt any others out there and now these stupid netbooks...
the world has more Naive people than i ever thought before !
nerdpower50Oct 28, 2010
Oh wow, it loads mail and iphoto faster. Now open a high quality photo in photoshop and try to edit it a bit, save a PSD, then tell me how you think it is.
enginedbeastsOct 30, 2010
I'm just stunned by the way they managed to fit all that technology in such a beautiful thin package.
applehead2Oct 30, 2010
Buy Apple
xazeroOct 31, 2010
you have to be kidding me, Im a c++ developer and I use an even older/weaker computer in which I run linux. I hate to buy something I dont need. You all have a problem, but hey, it is you who keep capitalism working! keep it up!!!!!