readwriteweb.com — Digg has had one heck of a week. On Wednesday the social news aggregator decided it was a good time to make the switch to version 4 of it's platform, which sent servers crashing and drove users bonkers. That was followed with overwhelming outrage over the buggy and feature-stripped new site, and today loyal Digg users spammed the site pleading for founder Kevin Rose to "do the right thing." This afternoon, Rose responded to the Digg community on his personal blog, announcing the return of features like "Upcoming Stores."
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What's Changing?
The Upcoming section, as we noted yesterday, is where many of Digg's most loyal users spent time attempting to influence which stories would make the front page. Many complaints focused around the removal of this section, which Rose says accounts for less than half of a percent of site traffic. " I definitely see the fun behind wanting to see stories just before they jump, so we'll add a view of upcoming popular stories soon," he says.
Another change that angered many users was that the site defaulted to the new "My News" section, which is populated with stories submitted, commented on and dugg by a user's friends and contacts. This caused many long-time Digg users to accuse the site of "becoming too much like Facebook and Twitter." Rose says the default homepage will soon become toggleable between My News and Top News, stating simply, "Makes sense, we'll add this setting."
The social My News section has been the focus of the relaunch and Rose is probably disappointed Digg users weren't more accepting of the feature. While it certainly, "makes sense" to make the default homepage an interchangeable setting, it wasn't what the site wanted, or it would have included it from the start.
What's NOT Changing
There are a few areas where Rose is refusing to bow to pressure from the site's users. Many were disappointed that the ability to "bury" stories was removed in the latest version, and argue it eliminates their ability to keep bad stories from the front pages of the site. Rose argues that "by removing the bury button we have put a stop to the bury brigades," and notes that users can report malicious content by clicking a "hide" button near each story.
Another change that has irked many users are the up- and down-voting buttons on comments, which were changed to arrows from their previous thumb versions. It's a minor change, but it means a lot in the Digg community, especially when arrows are used on many other sites, including the Reddit community.
Rose seemingly brushed this issue away, making a reference to the popular Old Spice advertisements. "Look at v3, now back again, the arrows are now diamonds!" Nope, they're still arrows. Personally I could care less if they're arrows or thumbs, but the community at large seems to care a great deal, so it seems like a no-brainer.
Is It Enough?
There are still many lingering concerns for fans of Digg. While many contend that the new Digg plays into the hands of popular mainstream media outlets (the same outlets Digg was originally designed to circumvent), Rose says that all diggers are created equal.
But will these changes be enough to appease the Digg community. Early responses have been mixed, with a leaning toward positive, but time will tell whether the users choose to meet Rose in the middle. Let us know how you feel about the changes and the fixes to the new Digg by leaving us a comment below!
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byteforbyteAug 27, 2010
It's nice to see that Kevin is responding to the community. It might not be what everyone wanted but it's a start.
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bitch
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f**kin spammers
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f**kin spammers
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jdenzerAug 28, 2010
It's a start? From what? Digg has been around since 2005. It's not like some new startup. More like a radical change and many loyal Digg users don't like it.
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pizzaman99Aug 28, 2010
New Digg SUCKS!
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new digg sucks
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ClothesoffAug 28, 2010
f**kin spammers
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f**kin spammers
marshnotellAug 28, 2010
ctrl + z the new Digg!
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fattycorpuscleAug 28, 2010
http://imgur.com/TuUcD.jpg
sanmanAug 28, 2010
Can we have the old Digg back, please?
I was fine with the way it was before - really
joejitsuAug 28, 2010
I've only been using Digg for 2 years, but I really liked it. I can't stand this new Digg. I'm going to check Reddit out, and won't be coming back until they change it.
crichton101Aug 28, 2010
Amen. I'm not a fan of this twitter/facebook looking t hing.
dxblouieAug 28, 2010
i truly hate the new digg..
at first i thought i'll get used to it.. well i'm not :S
rolfAug 28, 2010
New Digg = New Coke.
I'm not waiting for old coke to come back, I registered for reddit yesterday. It was fun here while it lasted.
cosmicsurferAug 28, 2010
Pepsi Clear; Thalidomide; asbestos and giving mercury to children
fxmulderAug 28, 2010
really bad.....
quietsykoAug 28, 2010
The new Digg is a usability clusterf**k. Seriously, how could you let this happen?
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<---------- In Remembrance
zaprowsdowerAug 28, 2010
I think Alex Albrecht sums up our frustrations quite well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1kpy41jiW8
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f**k Kevin Rose.
wolfeater2Aug 28, 2010
Theres a solution to the digg problems:
What about the digg community working together to create a new site? The community has enough furious people and enough people who have some programming knowledge to create a simple alternative to both digg and reddit that isn't totally controlled by corporations. Digg is completely spammed with popular sites trying to get more traffic, and thats not going to change no matter how much diggers revolt. Reddit is owned by conde nast and it won't be long until conde nast forces the reddit admins, great as they are, to find a way to make it more profitable, and its obvious where that leads.
But working together we could create something that doesn't have the same profit driven nature and instead is fueled by the community. We could create a safer and fairer site than either, and one all of us really want to use.
If anyone is interested, feel free to join me in irc on irc.freenode.net #freethenews
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jackdudAug 28, 2010
Even the digg widget for igoogle sucks now. It used to be tabbed by pictures, videos, news, now it's just "top news" = (
edit - I just noticed its the same for the actual website. Shows how much I've frequented it since the new launch
dollar0dot02Aug 28, 2010
F**K YOU NEW DIGG TWO OF MY FRIENDS HAVE CLOSED THEIR ACCOUNTS!
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Digg loses its identity:
http://digg.com/news/technology/new_digg_loses_its_identity_further
luckyl21Aug 28, 2010
facebook was able to get away with making radical changes that everyone hated because it was so much harder to start a new account on a social networking site and no real good alternatives existed. its way too easy to visit a new social media site and start a new account there for digg to get away with pulling this kind of s**t. and there are way too many completely viable alternatives to digg. i just started an account of reddit. later digg
luckyl21Aug 28, 2010
facebook was able to get away with making radical changes that everyone hated because it was so much harder to start a new account on a social networking site and no real good alternatives existed. its way too easy to visit a new social media site and start a new account there for digg to get away with pulling this kind of s**t. and there are way too many completely viable alternatives to digg. i just started an account of reddit. later digg
luckyl21Aug 29, 2010
facebook was able to get away with making radical changes that everyone hated because it was so much harder to start a new account on a social networking site and no real good alternatives existed. its way too easy to visit a new social media site and start a new account there for digg to get away with pulling this kind of s**t. and there are way too many completely viable alternatives to digg. i just started an account of reddit. later digg
sjl127Aug 29, 2010
If it's not broken, don't fix it - except digg.
caio6939Aug 29, 2010
f**k Kevin Rose
fireballfreddyAug 29, 2010
Now that Digg has lost everything that made it great, I see a lot of people posting about Reddit.
As for me, I hear Fark is pretty nice this time of year. Drew Curtis was apparently correct... the future of the Internet is editors. (Plus he's a nice guy to get drunk with.)
WabbitslayerAug 29, 2010
You speak too kindly on the "new Digg"
sandyfordiggAug 29, 2010
We will miss you old digg...
http://digg.com/news/technology/we_will_miss_you_old_digg_pic
dnz64Aug 29, 2010
f**king thing sucks!
lcworldAug 29, 2010
It was not broken, they 'fixed' it. Now it's s**t.
Just return to the old digg.
mbm7501Aug 29, 2010
http://digg.com/news/technology/how_to_fix_digg_2
murrabbitAug 28, 2010
Good! That was probably the feature I'm missing most. It's nice to be fed a steady streams from sources that I want to follow, but Diggers aren't like Fox News viewers, ok, I can't subsist on a diet purely of exactly the s**t I want to hear - I need to be exposed to stuff I'd never even thought to look for!
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im missing the report in comments.... how about the rest of you?
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Also missing block user. Also not allowing you to see buried comments by default. I don't care if you're at -250,000 I want to see what you said.
edit: doesn't give you the option to see buried comments by default.
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But what good is it when WE CAN'T BURY? All it will be is a copy of what the big sites like mashable and engadget are autosubmitting!
brainrazerAug 28, 2010
The most recent highly dugg Mashable story on Digg's front page is a thanks to its advertisers and how to advertise. THE f**k? Must have 50+ mashable employees digging the s**t.
Bob told Kevin at http://kevinrose.com/blogg/2010/8/27/digg-v4-re... : "Who are we all kidding. Go look at all the top stories right now. It is completely being taken over by self posts from the big media dogs. It is an RSS feed of major media companies. And this entire belief that we need or want to share stories to our Facebook friends is just ridiculous. How can you be in the internet business and not know that Facebook is not really used that way? Are you surrounded by that many yes men?"
Kevin replied in part: "We promote the stories that are dugg, I'm sorry that the stories you are digging aren't making the homepage."
Reply to Kevin at http://kevinrose.com/blogg/2010/8/27/digg-v4-re...
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factsahoyAug 28, 2010
Wow, what a crock of s**t. I mean, is he really this much of a tool? Is he aiming to join Suckerberg in the hall of shame? Looks that way.
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benroyAug 28, 2010
Bury (hide) everything from mashable. If enough people do it, digg might get the hint.
epiicrdrAug 28, 2010
Thanks brainrazer for linking that. I am Bob in that post although not on my normal username now but I was dumbfounded by the tone of his response to my post. Hell, I have been here for forever and just want to preserve the good things that brought us all here. Seems it has become clear that Digg is moving from being user-centric to provider-centric. Wanted to at least give him my take before this entire place came off the tracks. Guess we will have to see what happens.
cusomanAug 28, 2010
"Page not found" now. Dude couldn't take the heat and now it's gone.
epiicrdrAug 28, 2010
It is still there. Just google Kevin Rose Blog and it is the first discussion on the page.
shadowspawnAug 28, 2010
The only way to get this s**t off of the pot is to follow those of us who hate what KR did to us. I mean seriously, it's like he's treating us though we all have ADD.
jkalAug 28, 2010
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amanwithnonameAug 28, 2010
Well, I use Facebook that way, but I'm not stupid enough to believe that I am the norm. None of my other friends do it, and relatively few even care when I do share something from digg.
The main complaint I have (aside from the censoring, which they always did to some degree) is that the new algorithm combined with the new self-submission setup inadvertantly gives the major media too much power. Rose is correct when he says that the new algo gives self-submitted and user-submitted material equal weight, but that's precisely the problem....It's like giving small business and giant corporations equal weight in the economic world. The corporations simply have too many resources, and will squelch out the small businesses faster than you can say "clearance sale".
corona85Aug 28, 2010
Dear management: stop censoring these articles...
http://digg.com/news/technology/dear_kevin_rose_2
http://digg.com/news/worldnews/rip_digg_com
700+ diggs and can't even get the front page. You corporate media whores. Kevin Rose is taking it up the ass from Ted Turner and Time Warner. Telegraph's dick is in his mouth.
OFF TO REDDIT WE GO!
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thekipperAug 28, 2010
Not only did they not some how make the front page, they aren't even in the 'Top in 7 Days'. You know, the page that just lists the stories with the most diggs by the order of digg?? Yeah, I guess the algorithm must have just skipped over those stories by accident.
09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
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http://digg.com/news/business/digg_they_sure_have
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysosphaerales
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dietmountaindewAug 28, 2010
http://www.ehow.com/how_4834459_sanitize-beer-bottles-dishwasher.html
scy1192Aug 28, 2010
I... don't understand.
factorof13Aug 28, 2010
Aspartame is some bad f**king s**t.
eraidersAug 28, 2010
HEY KEVIN ROSE!!!
FAIL
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firecellAug 28, 2010
Every Digg User:"Lord Vader, digg has sold out and become absolutely terrible."
Vader: " http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/ !!!"
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galvoAug 28, 2010
There's much more to fix other than the god damn upcoming stories. God dammit.
joot2112Aug 29, 2010
Yeah, can they make it so I can see how many diggs my comments have? Or that I can even find my previous comments? On the plus side, I've been spending a lot less time here, and maybe that's good for me.
illestlyricsAug 28, 2010
That is what you call throwing a bone ;]
theskunkmonkeyAug 28, 2010
Kill the automated sponsored ad story inserted on the Digg front page, add http://dads.new.digg.com to your ad blocker!
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to be fair, this was also on the old digg... it was just easily identifiable
factorof13Aug 28, 2010
If you read what he said more carefully, he didn't say that upcoming stories will be returning. What he said is that there will be a list of upcoming "popular" stories. It's not the same thing. It's still going to depend on what other people are seeing and digging.
The power is now out of our hands, and they have no desire to change that fact.
tinybubsAug 28, 2010
I noticed that too, glad someone else picked up on it. The loss of seeing ALL upcoming stories rips the soul out of digg for me. I don't believe for a second that 0.4% of users time was spent on Upcoming Stories.
masterj26Aug 28, 2010
Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right B A
scy1192Aug 28, 2010
on Digg v3, that did something :(
Closed AccountAug 28, 2010
Didn't you forget select start
kyle212Aug 28, 2010
IT DOES NOTHING!!
pjs1840Aug 28, 2010
Somebody should teach Kevin Rose how to do a 301 redirect from Digg.com to Mashable.com...
juvigtAug 28, 2010
f**k new digg.
that is all.
xmidoAug 28, 2010
i am using reddit with digg skin http://userstyles.org/styles/35197 its f**king better than than Digg 4.0
rebradAug 28, 2010
Thanks Digg v4 is dead.
abaddon15Aug 28, 2010
that's awesome! thanks dude! goodbye digg.com.
gtabmxAug 29, 2010
Commenting to come back to this reply later. And coming back to Digg for the last time.
Closed AccountAug 28, 2010
If you think Digg will fix everything digg this comment up. If not, bury it!
Closed AccountAug 28, 2010
not only am i gonna bury you, but im gonna report you.... oh wait
guairdeanAug 28, 2010
I'm outta here. I've wasted too much time fighting the "improved" site. I'll check back in a couple of months to see if the powers that be have come to their senses (assuming the site survives), but I'm moving on to one of the usable news aggregators.
raskaliAug 28, 2010
I don't understand the new digg. I come her to find stories dugg by the most people. Now all I see are stories dugg by a few, or stories several days old it seems. What the hell is going on? I hope the new digg works out for people but I am going elsewhere to try and find what digg used to provide.
tomasborlinAug 28, 2010
Don't let them distract you by "giving in" to unimportant features like the "thumbs up" or "upcoming stories."
THEY ARE CENSORING ARTICLES. (the items actually getting dugg are CLEARLY being hidden/ignored)
THE FRONT PAGE IS 100% SELF-SUBMITTED ADS FROM CORPORATE PARTNERS.
Font doesn't matter any more. Color scheme, don't matter. Bugs, do not matte
crazyredivanAug 28, 2010
It's totally true. The fact that s**t is making the top stories while stories about the massive s**t sandwich that is Digg V4 were literally getting 3-4 times as many diggs and not making the top stories list is infuriating.
Regardless of Digg V3's algorithm issues, popular stories would eventually front page. This censorship is crap.
sirsidAug 28, 2010
wtf is wrong with you people. Why do people always jump the the most outlandish conclusions to explain this. Allowing the CREATERS of content to post their own material is NOT selling out. Users STILL have to digg content up. Its their god damned content. Why cant they submit it? Does the act of lets say a teenage boy sumitting a story suddenly make it holy..its the same material as before without middle man blogs relinking to it.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
vidorianAug 28, 2010
no mention of fixing rss or block user.
cs188Aug 28, 2010
I'LL BREAK AN AXLE WHENEVER I DAMN WANT TO!
diptheriaAug 28, 2010
Holy f**k I have not been able to 'arrow' hardly any comments because of the mother f**king axle bulls**t. As if I must now ponder 6 word sentences for 30 seconds before I can decide which direction I want to 'arrow' them. The site is unusable with these ridiculous timers. I am breaking the axle and moving to another site. I can't believe I am saying this, but f**k you digg, f**k you Kevin for your lack of concern, I will go to another news aggregate site...you are now far from the best game in town.
king0007Aug 28, 2010
New Digg sucks....hard to read....and see....I like the other view! I hate this!
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I hate the fact I cant see my own damn comment score without clicking on each and every damn comment.
/sureburyme
tiduAug 28, 2010
And then when you click the comment to go to the page, it doesn't even highlight your comment, just some random one. You have to expand all comments and find yours.
johndoAug 28, 2010
This is a good start. There's still a hell of alot more changes that need to be made.
benroyAug 28, 2010
Show Digg that we're unified in defiance of these changes.
Click the "Hide story" button for every submission from the top corporate sites. Especially mashable & arstech.
jabf2006Aug 28, 2010
Or..just stop using digg....
patrickbrownAug 28, 2010
Do I really need to see the upcoming mashable stories?
dxchsdrgoAug 28, 2010
i want the filtering the videos and images back.
and i dont know about anyone else, but the digg app doesnt work for me
jnAug 28, 2010
I don't understand why they couldn't do a public beta and get feedback on bugs and other issues before they switched the main site over to the new design. Other than that, it seems okay for the most part, change is good, and I didnt even notice that upcoming was goneComment is buried, click here to see the rest.
neutron7Aug 28, 2010
where are my recent post history? i like to see how many people liked my comment.
supersonicjimAug 28, 2010
I liked your comment.
tiduAug 28, 2010
I up arrowed your comment.
dogfoodAug 29, 2010
Can't figure out how to like your comment.
Closed AccountAug 29, 2010
It's at 36 right now, bro (yeah, I feel your pain. i have the same complaint)
RobertHillbergAug 28, 2010
GFY Kevin GFY!
deeroxx7Aug 28, 2010
hey Kevin Rose im awesome at making crappy websites i dont know how to use proper punctuation i like adding glossy s**t to anything can i have a job at Digg?
sq2shooterAug 28, 2010
"so we'll add a view of upcoming popular stories soon"
This concerns me. We don't want to see upcoming popular stories, we want to see all upcoming stories. I have to wonder what Kevin means by popular stories. I can't help but think that it implies something other than all stories.
noupsellAug 28, 2010
Restoration of upcoming is going to reveal once again how the front page is trending and make the censorship of stories by digg more obvious... Do we have more broken promises to look forward to just like digg looking into the digggate scandal?
Digg's heartlight is fading and imo you're running your business into the ground.
You think that you are so big that you can easily afford the loss of the foolish users that believed in your original ideal. The same users that made what you are today.
Closed AccountAug 28, 2010
Seriously, the up and coming stories ? are you freaking kidding me.. this new digg is a FPOS and and the answer is up and coming stories are coming back. FFS the site is a disaster. Its AWFUL. You want to fix it, bring back OLD DIGG !
Closed AccountAug 28, 2010
And how about returning to the fundamental principles this website was built on? Community determined news, not the same news sites that happen to pay you enough...
strictneinAug 28, 2010
Sorry, but this is a bulls**t answer: "I definitely see the fun behind wanting to see stories just before they jump, so we'll add a view of upcoming popular stories soon,"
That just means that before the next Mashable story hits the FP, you'll be able to see it on the Upcoming Page. It says nothing about digging deep into random fresh submissions.