techcrunch.com — Welcome, kids, to TIL – Today I Learned. Today’s TIL is “Don’t post your correspondence with AppleCare representatives or Apple will totally tell the government on you.”
David Boles had a nice Apple monitor that died on him. He had a little trouble transferring AppleCare coverage to his new monitor after it pooped out and posted some advice on his blog. Nothing major, just “don’t forget to connect your AppleCare accounts.” Very innocuous.
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trivialanomalyFeb 2, 2012
Lol. From what I have read on the internet, I don't think E-mail Confidentiality Notices are even legally binding.
wjappeFeb 1, 2012
Is this part of Apple's Gestapo approach to customer care?
elimgarakFeb 1, 2012
Wow, dick move. If MS did that, half of the Internet would be up in arms by now.
tuppe666Feb 1, 2012
I am not defending Apple here. I think this is disgusting, but saying MS don't act like this. Have you read your overreaching EULA. The draconian activation system that stores better than finger print information on you. How about the highly reported patent threats against users/developers/manufactures, and the deals done behind closed doors. There better corporations out there, but I wouldn't be holding Microsoft up as an example it gets away with abusing its users, because its a monopoly.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
elimgarakFeb 1, 2012
"Have you read your overreaching EULA."
No, nobody ever reads the EULA. To which part of the EULA are you referring? And which EULA?
"The draconian activation system that stores better than finger print information on you."
LOL, that stores a hash of your machine config values and can't be used to trace back to you? Why is that draconian?
"How about the highly reported patent threats against users/developers/manufactures, and the deals done behind closed doors"
Don't know about closed door deals, but the patent thing is just business. It does not impact individual customers.
"There better corporations out there, but I wouldn't be holding Microsoft up as an example it gets away with abusing its users, because its a monopoly."
First of all, nobody is holding up MS as an example. I am just saying that if this was MS, everybody would be yelling at the top of their lungs - it's a double standard. MS doesn't always have great customer support, but there is nothing like this.
Second, it is not a monopoly. There aren't any products that are as good in many respects, but Apple and Linux distros are competing with it. Of course with some products MS products are simply better, which is why MS is so successful, but what's the alternative - to make the MS products suck so that some other crappy program could compete?
tuppe666Feb 1, 2012
You had me at "it is not a monopoly". Still not stopped laughing at that. BTW is Microsoft still cooperating with Chinese government in implementing a system of Internet censorship.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
elimgarakFeb 1, 2012
Do you know the definition of a monopoly? In what specific market do you think MS is a monopoly - which MS product doesn't have competition?
No idea about the Chinese government, but that's a whole other topic of conversation that has nothing to do with this.
tuppe666Feb 1, 2012
I'm sure Human rights activists would say otherwise.
elimgarakFeb 1, 2012
"I'm sure Human rights activists would say otherwise."
You think that human rights activists would think that Microsoft obeying the internal laws of China has something to do with Apple threatening legal action against a user that posted some e-mails? Really? What is the connection?
Also, I notice you ignored my monopoly question. Does that mean that you agree that Microsoft is not a monopoly? If not, please tell me which Microsoft products have no competition in the marketplace.
tuppe666Feb 1, 2012
I leave you with this quote from Reporters without Borders "ironic that companies whose existence depends on freedom of information and expression have taken on the role of censor."Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
elimgarakFeb 1, 2012
Non sequitor. That has nothing to do with the conversation at hand. What does MS policy in China have to do with Apple threatening to sue users that posted an e-mail?
tuppe666Feb 1, 2012
No friend this is where you look inward and ask yourself why does Microsoft get a free pass from you. Do these sound familiar?
Path dependence
Embrace, extend and extinguish
Network effect
Vendor lock-in
Appeal to fear
Fear, uncertainty and doubt
elimgarakFeb 1, 2012
"I am surprised that people say anything bad about Microsoft considering Microsoft pay people to make comments on their behalf."
Wow. That's the most illogical and vague thing you have said yet in these comments.
Are you really trying to make an argument or are you just stringing random disconnected ideas and stuffing them into sentences?
Also, are you agreeing that WGA is not a "draconian activation system" that treats MS customers as "second class citizens" (second class as compared to whom?), or are you going to provide reasoning for your claims?Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
tuppe666Feb 1, 2012
I refer to Moneylife.in where two "anonymous comments boosting their product"—one by a Nokia employee and another by a Microsoft employee—were posted on their review of Nokia Lumia 800
elimgarakFeb 1, 2012
Again, non sequitor. The two facts are irrelevant to the discussion at hand, or to whether individuals say something bad about it even if MS employs people to blog/comment about their posts.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
tuppe666Feb 1, 2012
They also got described at unethical by Jimmy Wales for trying to cover up their unethical behaviour in trying to rewrite a different history to their OOXML behaviour on wikipedia.
elimgarakFeb 1, 2012
"They also got described at unethical by Jimmy Wales for trying to cover up their unethical behaviour in trying to rewrite a different history to their OOXML behaviour on wikipedia."
Irrelevant to the discussion at hand and a non-sequitor.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
elimgarakFeb 1, 2012
"No friend this is where you look inward and ask yourself why does Microsoft get a free pass from you. Do these sound familiar?
Path dependence
Embrace, extend and extinguish
Network effect
Vendor lock-in
Appeal to fear
Fear, uncertainty and doubt"
Several of them are familiar to me. I've never heard of the network effect - do you mean the idea of "synnergy" or an ecosystem? And no idea what "path dependence" is.
Several of them remind me of Apple.
And Microsoft does not get a pass on them from me. However, that is STILL not what we are talking about. You STILL insist on changing the topic, refuse to answer questions or clarify your responses, refuse to acknowledge inconsistencies in your own arguments, etc.
That is not an acceptable way of communicating. Not if you wish to continue a conversation.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
RpbThomas548Apr 25, 2012
This article and the title is fanboy/troll bait. I'll stay away.
http://nexuspheromonesreview.com/
ninhFeb 1, 2012
The Fruit Fascist jackboots are at it again.
rogue100Feb 1, 2012
How much if any force of law do those agreements at the end of the email actually have? Is it actually illegal to break them?
flarn2006Feb 2, 2012
I wouldn't think so, as the recipient never signed anything. It would be just like me putting something at the end of my emails saying by clicking on a certain link in the email they are agreeing to pay me a certain amount of money.
GhostmetalFeb 1, 2012
Tell them to bash it up there ass.
flarn2006Feb 2, 2012
If this happened to me, I would ask a lawyer before taking it down. And if the lawyer said Apple couldn't do anything about it, I would just spread it even more.
tevediggsFeb 2, 2012
This article and the title is fanboy/troll bait. I'll stay away.
redhautemamaFeb 1, 2012
I really think it's fake... Everybody could use identities over the internet.
jbellancaFeb 1, 2012
I'm calling fake.
bob5Feb 1, 2012
yah...its really doubtful taht Apply cud do something like this
alienmushroomFeb 1, 2012
I doubt it was really from Apple. Someone must have used a spoofed Apple email add.
xtomtomxFeb 1, 2012
Right. Because Apple pees glitter-sparkle and s**ts rainbows.
/s