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brandhayNov 23, 2010
Complain to the airlines, because they'll listen to you and take real action before the gov't will.
linuxpersonNov 24, 2010
Complaining might not help but refusing to fly most certainly will.
digging925Nov 25, 2010
great. now try getting the american population and others to stop. good luck with that.
zirchxworldNov 25, 2010
oh digg and your silly boycotts.
they might someday work if the people that propose them ever get some integrity.
linuxpersonNov 25, 2010
I haven't flown commercially for going on a decade now precisely because of the TSA.
zirchxworldNov 25, 2010
thats nice if you don't have to go out of the country. i guess your safe from terrorists and the TSA. congrats.
zirchxworldNov 25, 2010
this video just made me realize that Adam has a striking resemblance to Colonel Sanders.
ignusgraiusNov 24, 2010
Unbelievable.
alwaysponderNov 24, 2010
No...entirely too believable - which says how little faith any of us have in the TSA or their ability to keep us safe. I'd rather see the US use the security that the Israeli airports use - they have proven effective, don't involve radiation, disrobing or public humiliation.
ins0mniakdsNov 24, 2010
And what is that?
vipervinNov 25, 2010
"The 'Israelification' of airports: High security, little bother"
http://www.thestar.com/iphone/news/world/article/744199---israelification-high-security-little-bother
miklkitNov 25, 2010
Sounds good to me. Look them in the eye.
zirchxworldNov 25, 2010
WHAT IF THEY WEAR SUNGLASSES!?
crashingechelonNov 24, 2010
Another unbelievable one is how often I've gotten full water bottles past TSA. The best place to put them is in the bottle holder of your backpack or in my case my messenger bag. I just put it on the xray belt and it went straight through and no one ever stopped me about it.
dsfunkNov 25, 2010
I accidentally take water through all the time. Usually the big liter bottles. I also brought a 7 oz. bottle of hot sauce home from New Orleans a couple weeks ago. Went straight thru in the bottle holder of my backpack. I actually figured I had about a 50% chance of getting it thru so I tried it.
corinthosNov 25, 2010
I accidentally got a bottle of 12 oz mexican coke (the soft drink) through in my messenger bag.
Another time I had a small knight from Excalibur in Vegas in my carry on. He had a sword that was about 5 inches long that you could take out of his hand and stab someone with if you wanted. I put it in my bag so it didn't get broke and didn't realize until I was rummaging through it on my layover that I got it past security with it.
insane1Nov 25, 2010
Not real Mexican coke?? :(
3the3dude3Nov 25, 2010
Dugg for "the soft drink". Sometimes clarification is funny.
zirchxworldNov 25, 2010
could you imagine 12oz of coke tho. that would be impressive to sneak past security lol.
rujtuNov 25, 2010
I accidentally brought a lighter on a flight once. Ever since, I don't even try to hide them. I've flown out of and into Amsterdam, Frankfurt, Seoul, Tokyo, San Francisco and Washington D.C. over the past 2 years. I've been caught with . . . a small bottle of lotion once in D.C. Then I got a talking to, like I should know better than to bring something so ridiculous.
3the3dude3Nov 25, 2010
Lighters are actually allowed now and have been for some time. I know this because I had been prepared to voluntarily hand mine over for the sake of speed and was told that passengers are allowed lighters. Went through the full body scanner with it in my pocket as well.
rujtuNov 25, 2010
I wonder for how long. They were on the stupid sign telling me I couldn't bring guns or bombs through security when I was flying.
elmuerte17Nov 24, 2010
Not even a little bit surprised.
Side note, somebody near the cameraman was incredibly annoying...
phphreakNov 24, 2010
they actually wasted their time pulling one of the mythbusters aside? This is why we will never win this war.
irvman21Nov 24, 2010
Two weeks ago I saw them put a pilot's shoes back through the xray machine and second and then third time, because obviously if a pilot was going to bring down a plane, a shoe bomb would be how he would do it.
vikzatlNov 24, 2010
I dont know why they even check pilots. They could bring down the plane if they wanted to anyway (no bomb necessary). They should be checking for intoxication... but that's another story.
ofoarheffinsakeNov 24, 2010
I don't know this for sure, but I would assume that most modern planes have onboard systems that prevent the pilot from purposefully doing something like putting the plane into a nosedive. It's possible that they don't have that kind of control without emergency overrides or something like that which would have to be given from air traffic controllers or something.
Again, I have no idea if that's true, it just seems to me that it could be likely.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
ScuzzwahNov 24, 2010
I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.
davidtcNov 25, 2010
They don't to crash a plane with a nose dive. They can *gasp* fly the plane into something! Sorry, we don't have TheEvent aliens to protect us.
inditechNov 25, 2010
I have no idea why you are being dugg down for that comment. A lot of fly-by-wire planes have emergency systems that attempt to override such behaviour. Not terribly successfully a lot of the time, but your statement is founded on truth.
roquaNov 25, 2010
They check pilots, because a pilot could smuggle weapons/explosives past the security check point, and then dead-drop them or hand them off to someone for an attack on some other plane.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
3the3dude3Nov 25, 2010
I'm among the "scanning pilots is stupid" crowd, but don't see why you've gotten dugg down for this. It's a pretty reasonable explanation even though it's a highly unlikely scenario.
agent13xNov 26, 2010
Bruce Schneier talks about this in one of his blogs. They're not necessarily worried about pilots bringing the planes down...they're worried about people DRESSED as pilots who might try to bring the plane down.
particleman420Nov 26, 2010
who is Bruce Schneier?
agent13xNov 26, 2010
He's one of the most well-known security experts of our generation and he's the guy who coined the phrase "security theater".
http://www.schneier.com/
novadeezDec 3, 2010
Do pilots not have all kinds of extra identification and what not? Is "Wearing the hat and shirt" the only difference between pilots and passengers?
agent13xDec 3, 2010
Identification can easily be forged. Besides, the identification does not need to pass through the pilot's own airline security processes. It only needs to look good enough to get past TSA. The TSA officers don't have training on how to identify fake/real badges for every single airline.
dre_the_geekNov 25, 2010
Along that train of thought:
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/politics/5234-ron-paul-on-tsa-abuse-qenough-is-enoughq
garypearceNov 25, 2010
false. pilots are not required to remove their shoes.
irvman21Nov 25, 2010
You are incorrect. Not at the airport I fly out of every week - as one of the initial test sites for the backscatters we are subjected to numerous measures that are different from virtually every other airport. Backscatters were installed over a year ago and every single person must go through them or get patted down/sexually assaulted.
Additionally, as I originally stated, pilots are still required to remove their shoes and, as I originally stated, sometimes they are even re-run through x-ray.
authustianNov 24, 2010
We will never win this war is because you can't win a war against an ideology. All it takes is one crazy bastard intent on destruction.
3the3dude3Nov 25, 2010
One crazy bastard doesn't create an image of terror. An organized network of crazy bastards does.
o76923Nov 25, 2010
are you referring to the US Government or Al-Qaeda?
danbarkerNov 24, 2010
And this just proves that iradiating the population with X-Rays doesnt make you safer...
shwaavayNov 24, 2010
Just so you're aware, you actually get exposed to nearly 100 times the radiation of the scanners when you are 5 miles up into the thin atmosphere, like when you are on the plane.
danbarkerDec 31, 2010
Proof?
shwaavayDec 31, 2010
I don't know about proof, but here's an expert opinion:
http://news.discovery.com/human/travel-body-scanners-radiation.html
danbarkerDec 31, 2010
fair enough, I still think that they are dangerous machines (especially if you work around them).
godsbongNov 24, 2010
Personally I would rather take on a man wielding a blade then a bomb.. Its still sad that America has resorted to such stupid measures of security.
A big thanks to all the dumbf**ks electing r-tards into office..again..
3the3dude3Nov 25, 2010
You can't pin this one on either party.
defonosNov 24, 2010
Not to be the "pro-TSA" person that everyone buries, but you're absorbing radiation right now sitting at your computer... The amount you absorb during a body scan is insignificant, unless you go through it like 10,000 times.
j_carcinogenNov 25, 2010
How do you know, just because the TSA says that? Why won't they allow the TSA staff to wear dosimeters? How come nobody else is allowed by law to take xrays without an xray test like highly educated doctors but GED TSA agents can?
dsfunkNov 25, 2010
You need to do some reading beyond the TSA website. http://www.npr.org/assets/news/2010/05/17/concern.pdf
miklkitNov 25, 2010
Uh oh.
ncgmacNov 26, 2010
It would be better if people focused on this report and less on rhetoric. These are valid, scientific concerns that can have lifetime, and life limiting, consequences for thousands of people.
slindenNov 24, 2010
If we can't trust a Mythbuster, then whom can we trust?
hipmanNov 24, 2010
Pilots and Congressman, Naturally.
http://www.care2.com/causes/civil-rights/blog/tsa-exemptions-pilots-and-congressmen-not-flight-attendants/
particleman420Nov 26, 2010
4 year olds and grannies as well
mortikahnNov 24, 2010
We need a new Mythbusters episode, busting the TSA Security Screening Myth
audiomodderNov 24, 2010
i believe you've just witnessed it.
pjlincolnNov 24, 2010
Scary.
TedThorsenNov 24, 2010
i agree we do need a mythbusters episode about TSA Security.. I think the scanners are there just so they can see people naked. Any attractive lady that goes buy totally needs a full body scan.. it is the only thing that makes the job worth doing... i just want to know what happens when the terrorists just try to put a stick of dynamite or a knife in there anus. I don't want to think what those scans are going to be like after that
hipmanNov 24, 2010
Yeah, or..
http://digg.com/news/offbeat/gop_s_gohmert_warns_tsa_about_tampon_bombers_rumormiller
smpaisnutrientsNov 25, 2010
"Ma'am I'm required to remove your tampon for security reasons. No we don't have a trash can, you'll have to carry it with you afterward or reinsert it."
particleman420Nov 26, 2010
are you trying to tell us that a republican is voicing his weird fetishes in public and fearmongering in order to strip more of our liberties away?
particleman420Nov 26, 2010
are you trying to tell us that a republican is voicing his weird fetishes in public and fearmongering in order to strip more of our liberties away?
particleman420Nov 26, 2010
are you trying to tell us that a republican is voicing his weird fetishes in public and fearmongering in order to strip more of our liberties away?
particleman420Nov 26, 2010
i love new digg, it's so unpredictable! its a turn on!
/s
atai1638Nov 24, 2010
Like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xWavq7pVhs
particleman420Nov 26, 2010
i read somewhere that they would have to stuff a s**tload (the the proper term when talking about stuffing things up your ass) of explosives into your ass (or swallow if you're a wimp) to do enough damage to the plane to be a crash-type effect.
but i really just commented to say "sticking knives in their anus sounds painful"
ncgmacNov 26, 2010
It's okay, they wrap them in hamsters.
TedThorsenNov 29, 2010
i agree ..i think they would probably keep the sheath on a knife.. it's like a sword swallower but backwards
greatsunjesterNov 24, 2010
Note from the TSA: "Oh no, Mr. Savage. We have absolutely NO idea how you got placed on the no fly list."
particleman420Nov 26, 2010
yea, guess who's getting a full cavity search on their way home
cbagsNov 24, 2010
This happened twice to me. Bag was inspected, but there was a pocket knife in one of the small side pockets. This was my carry on bag. Was not on purpose, but just proof that they don't look at those scanners very hard.
smedrickNov 24, 2010
I went through El Paso about a year ago and they confiscated a small jar of jam from my carry-on but completely missed the 5in pocket knife.
ctraiderthe1stNov 24, 2010
TSA pretty much disrobed my son who was in his US Marine uniform and missed a few things in his carry-on that went through the x-ray machine. >_<
davidtcNov 25, 2010
Tom Brokaw was just on a cnbc show the other day talking about a pocket knife he had on him while traveling. He said he didn't mean to bring it, but when he found it, he decided to keep it in the luggage to see if it would be found. Said he traveled through about half a dozen airports, some of them major airports in the country. Never once was it found. He went over seas (forget where) and the security there found it on the first look. When asked about it he said he didn't know it was there and they could keep it.
novadeezDec 3, 2010
Same thing happened to my math teacher. Went to Europe on vacation, made it through three airports in America with a 5 inch pocket knife in his bag without any issue. First security check across the pond found it and made him throw it away.
dicezeroNov 24, 2010
one word.... TSAFAIL
Closed AccountNov 24, 2010
Personally, I am disappointed that our world as a whole has gotten to the point where there is a threat that warrants this type of security. I would prefer to just be able to get on a plane and assume that the person next to me does NOT have a bomb stuck in his drawers.
I think that the TSA is doing the best they can given the parameters they are provided by their superiors, which starts at the top and filters down to their individual management. I don't believe that the TSA agents get a big thrill touching my balls, and I don't believe that anyone is going to want to put an x-ray type image of me (or anyone else for that matter) on their personal thumb drive for masturbation purposes later.
I do believe, however, that one thing that helps to keep the skies safe is the unpredictability of security measures, and how that unpredictability affects the bad guys. If the fear of being caught, sent to an American prison and being forced to copulate with big Jim while eating pork rinds is enough to deter one (fill in the blank here with your favorite ethnic adjective) extremist, I got no issues. Of course , I'm not carrying around much extra mental baggage like some of the folks who really have a problem with this are. I truly do understand the people who have had bad experiences in the past with being touched.
Stunts (and this can only be classified as a stunt in my book) weaken the entire security system, point out its flaws to the general public, and in general make the system less effective. The machines are run by humans, and humans are going to miss stuff.
hipmanNov 24, 2010
"If the fear of being caught, sent to an American prison and being forced to copulate with big Jim while eating pork rinds is enough to deter one (fill in the blank here with your favorite ethnic adjective) extremist, I got no issues."
Well good for you.But if that's all it's going to do then I, on the other hand, will more than gladly take the risk.Probably most people as well.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
ajh16Nov 24, 2010
That's just it we DON'T live in a world where this kind of security is justified. The first rule of security is that you can never stop every determined attacker so you try to secure things to a reasonable margin of safety. If you applied the kind of margin that these measures are designed to try to provide (unsuccessfully I might add), to any other risk, you would not be able to live in the world at any time period ever in the history of man.
cajunmetalNov 24, 2010
Stunts pointing out it's flaws? How about the TSA posting exactly what the scanners can see, describing their pat-down procedures etc.? Will you be fine with the random cavity search once someone tries to hide something where they can't see it on an xray?
And it doesn't matter if anyone masturbates to your xray image. It's WRONG of the govt to strip search its citizens (even virtually) if they're not criminals or suspected of commiting a crime. They don't have a right to do that.
rajatworkNov 24, 2010
yep, it is amazing how many miss the point - unreasonable searches and probable cause are the magic words.
o76923Nov 25, 2010
If a scientist/tv host/comedian can discover it on accident, a determined terrorist can to. Claiming that people demonstrating flaws in the system supremely underestimate terrorists.
That said, we really don't need any of this security. On 9/11 more people were killed by cigarettes than terrorists worldwide (to kill that many Americans you'd need a week). Obesity, car accidents, and heart disease kill more Americans each month than terrorists. But I don't need to have someone feel me up to buy a pack or go to McDonalds.
protogenxlNov 24, 2010
So he tested the Myth of Airport Security?
godsbongNov 25, 2010
<{~ Myth Busted ~}>
harryleesmithNov 24, 2010
Adam Savage for President!
particleman420Nov 26, 2010
he's smart and he likes to blow s**t up, there's something for both sides to like!
rat_manNov 24, 2010
I believe him. The new TSA procedures are a time wasting process.
nerysNov 24, 2010
the new procedures are two fold. They are #1 designed to spend money. Lots of it. #2 they are designed to get the population used to greater and greater infringements of their rights. Sheeple.
lumpydNov 24, 2010
Been there done that.
RichvideoNov 24, 2010
I think that the airlines should be forced to make the planes bomb proof, where no one with a small amount of explosives will be able to put a hole in the aircraft.The governments main concern is that they don't want planes falling out of the sky....
Put visible and undercover security on the plane, guys that can fight in close quarters.
This will stop the need for all these TSA security measures. Security on the plane is what matters- All it takes is one to get past the TSA- If the plane is secure they can't do any real damage.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
TomHanks4Nov 24, 2010
no, the airlines should be forced to make people dead proof.. it's about as practical as making planes bomb proof.
ncgmacNov 26, 2010
Well, for the populace it isn't possible. However, bomb resistant luggage carriers for the cargo hold have been around for at least a couple of decades. Airlines have not opted for them due to cost.
However, I would think the cost of the number of people who will opt out of flying as an option due to the TSA will be high enough for them to think of such alternatives to regain control of security and customer service.
True, these technologies won't stop a person from blowing themselves up, but they will stop a real bomb. As to the people like the underwear bomber, passengers thus far have done the right thing. Yell out bomb, and beat the crap out of the person trying to kill them.
particleman420Nov 26, 2010
they could make them out of adamantium and give them anti-gravity drives!
1withTHEsharkNov 24, 2010
Consistency is another matter but I personally don't see the problem as long as an agent of the same sex is conducting the pat down. As much of a thrill as it may be for guys to get patted down by a sexy TSA agent lol, can't say I'd my girl friend getting patted down by a male agents. The scans....mixed opinion but if it keeps Americans safe, I say get over it. We're on the same team here.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
1withTHEsharkNov 24, 2010
On a side note. Airports in general have pissed me off a lot in the recent years. Everything from Custom's agents being little b*&^%$ about what we bring back from other countries...I'm sorry to burst TSA's bubble but a bottle of Wine from Germany is NOT going to blow up a f&^%^%$ airplane!! Some custom's bitch took my girl friend's bottle of wine away that was a gift for her dad and said it didn't fit properly in her suit case. I almost grabbed it from her and stuffed it in mine. It made me soo angry. Another instance, they don't care about the weight distribution differences with suitcases. A bunch of us were going on a college trip and we all had different weights. Mine was 5 pounds heavier than it should have been and several had suitcases that were 5 pounds under. They knew we were going on the same flight. There was no reason they couldn't have waived the damn charges. What a crock of crap.
Closed AccountNov 24, 2010
it amazing how people will believe what they are told? It's no wonder how Hitler came to power and accomplished what he did. People really believe that everyone in the government has their best interests in mind. The thought that any element of the government has crooks is blasphemy to them
tylerstimeNov 24, 2010
thought the blades were strapped to his junk....
lokcjawNov 24, 2010
Just not that scared of the whole terrorism thing. Time to get over the whole 9/11 incident and quit being scared little whiners.