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zapfchanceJul 9, 2010
This article is mostly copied verbatim from the Mozilla release notes. LAME!
See for yourself -
https://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/4.0b1/releasenotes/
takuroJul 11, 2010
And they were too lazy to take an actual screenshot of the browser and instead used a mockup of the FF 4 from Mozilla's site. The home page tab hasn't yet appeared in the beta or nightlies yet.
explodingzebrasJul 11, 2010
to be fair they make it easier to read and digest
annjayJul 10, 2010
Looks like some great new enhancements...
tpexJul 10, 2010
Meh.. looks to much like chrome, I like my big muscle car (FF) thats why I didn't swap it for a Prius (chrome)
gumballerJul 10, 2010
That's only the new default look dumbass. If you had actually tried it out you'd notice you can disable tabs on top and enable the menu bar.
deusimperatorJul 10, 2010
Thats true, however the menu bar and tabs on bottom should be default, with the ability to turn tabs on top on and menubar off .... Not this retarded way they have it now.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
Closed AccountJul 10, 2010
I for one agree with Deuslmperator for a simple reason:
When making a change to the User Interface you should be doing so to solve a user interaction problem. This does the reverse. The most used feature in FF that I've seen is the bookmarks toolbar - everyone I know has their favourite links added to it because it's quick and easy to access and doesn't take up a lot of desktop real estate. The new method confuses this by adding bookmarks to the tab - they are a global property, not local to the tab. Search as well is not local to the tab.
As for the Firefox button, it has to be the most annoying feature M$ came up with for it's products (placing everything under one or two icons/buttons). People have trouble navigating sideout menu systems - over and over I've seen people who aren't great at controlling a mouse struggle with keeping the mouse on that one menu item and moving horizontally to open the new menu. Even power users, they often overshoot the right hand edge of the new menu (since they're different sizes based on the text inside) once it's open and have to start the process over again. The UI should not make you do something twice - ever.
In addition the UI now ignores user's operating system themes. Most will have no trouble with this, but for some they spend significant time on tweaking their OS themes (Linux especially) and in XP anyone who took the time to enable the Royale Noir theme probably wants to keep it.
So they've created these problems and solved what?Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
atomic1fireJul 10, 2010
The bookmarks button is actually just the bookmarks menu + the ability to show the bookmarks bar.
If you would click that button you would know that.
You're too busy complaining about the firefox button.
mabakerbrakerJul 10, 2010
These have been in Chrome for the last… oh wait, damn, forgot that Google released Chrome just to solidify his profit margins in future by expanding its platforms “for free". Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
tommedwardsJul 10, 2010
'his'?
niz1Jul 10, 2010
The only thing I want is for them to move everything one bar up like in chrome, basically I want the menu bar on the same bar as the minimise, restore, and close button. Saves a bar of space!
honoredmuleJul 10, 2010
You can already save a bar of space by moving the address bar, search bar, and few icons you actually need into the menu bar.
bratterscainJul 10, 2010
Of course, but it would still be better if we could make more use of the title bar like Chrome does.
ricoduedJul 10, 2010
Chrome doesn't use any of the titlebar. Tabs are beneath the Min/Max/Close buttons, not on the same row.
I think you're confusing extending glass into the application area with the 'title bar'.
honoredmuleJul 11, 2010
If you're using a pre-XP-based windows theme, the title bar can be as little as 16 pixels tall, which is all it really ever needed. Then there isn't this vast tract of wasted space that needs recovering in the first place.
5wallaceJul 10, 2010
I gave it a try and, unfortunately, 95% of my extensions are not compatible. I know this will change but it is still a bit of a bummer. And I just found out that Adblock for Chrome finally BLOCKS ads. That was the last holdup for me and I have made the switch. Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
manwhoreJul 10, 2010
AdThwart does a pretty good job too. Been using it ever since I switched.
https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/cfhdojbkjhnklbpkdaibdccddilifddb
kyldeJul 10, 2010
I have about 12 addons running, the only 1 I found that doesn't work is xmarks, simply use the about:config tweak to enable addon support. Also, ff 4 now fully supports windows 7 jumplists
honoredmuleJul 10, 2010
E4X support in Chrome is a major roadblock for me right now. I depend on Greasemonkey scripts that use it extensively.
craighwkJul 10, 2010
Chrome has been blocking ads for a long time now.
bratterscainJul 10, 2010
You mean hiding. It doesn't have true ad blocking.
Closed AccountJul 10, 2010
You can force your extensions to be compatible - well, you can force them to run, although they might not work properly. This method worked in Firefox 3.x versions, but I haven't tested it in Firefox 4 - it should work though.
Get the addon called Nightly Tester Tools from here: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6543/ and restart your browser. Once restarted, when you right click on an incompatible addon in the Addons window you should have a menu option to "Override compatibility" which will modify the extension's metadata so that it says it works on your current version of Firefox. In the past this has allowed me to get extensions working where the addon developer hasn't updated it to say it works in the latest version of the browser.
kyldeJul 10, 2010
I used this method:
http://lifehacker.com/5581743/how-to-bypass-firefox-40-betas-incompatible-add+on-error-and-install-extensions-anyway
Closed AccountJul 10, 2010
@Kylde
Ah, that's a much better way. I didn't know about that. Thanks!
honoredmuleJul 11, 2010
The addon compatibility reporter: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/15003/?src=external-fxbetarelnote
This is the most convenient way to manage upgrading to a new version, as it allows you to bypass compatibility checking but then also provides functionality for reporting which extensions really don't work. Developers can then update their scripts more quickly with the feedback you send, and reporting an extension as non-functional disables it until an update comes, then lets you know you should try again.
This extension also /doesn't/ do the other things that Nightly Tester Tools does, like putting a build number in the title bar, and it's more lightweight overall.
athrasherJul 10, 2010
Holy crap AdBlock for Chrome does actually block ads now. I have no idea why you're being buried as previously it loaded the ads then removed them, which was a lame way to go about it and didn't really work on some of the obnoxious forums I visit. It seems to work exactly like AdBlock for Firefox now.
texliJul 10, 2010
FTA: "Top 20 Features Of Firefox 4 (Beta) That Make It STAND OUT"
"Tabs are now on top by default on Windows only"
Just as in Opera and Chrome.
"Windows Vista and Windows 7 the menu bar has been replaced with the Firefox button"
Opera
"The stop and reload buttons have been merged into a single button on Windows, Mac and Linux."
Opera, (IE?)
"Crash protection for Windows, Linux, and Mac when there is a crash in the Adobe Flash, Apple Quicktime or Microsoft Silverlight plugins."
Chrome, Safari
"CSS Transitions are partially supported"
Webkit supported this 3 years ago.
"Full WebGL support is included but disabled by default at this time."
Chrome, Safari
"Native support for the HD HTML5 WebM video format."
Opera, Chrome
"An experimental Direct2D rendering backend is available on Windows, turned off by default."
IE9
"Web developers can use Websockets for a low complexity, low latency, bidirectional communications API."
Chrome, Safari, Opera
"CSS :visited selectors have been changed to block websites from being able to check a user’s browsing history"
Safari
"Support for more HTML5 form controls."
Opera
Firefox 4 will be awesome, but this list is wrong.
smokezzJul 10, 2010
Why is it wrong? If it has everything from ALL of those browsers... that certainly makes it stand out.
renegadeafkJul 10, 2010
Chrome dev also has merged reload and stop already. Just doesn't make sense to have them separate.
Closed AccountJul 10, 2010
Also has been around as an addon since Firefox 1.5
bertqbJul 10, 2010
Your list failed to provide me with an erection.
analogassassinJul 10, 2010
Has it addressed how Firefox stops loading pages after a while?
Closed AccountJul 10, 2010
How are stop and reload merged? What does this merged button do when you click it?
theexitwoundJul 10, 2010
Opera has done this since like 1999. When a page is loading, it's a stop button. When a page isn't doing anything, it's a reload button.
heavyj1970Jul 10, 2010
anyone notice the google chrome ad? gotta love it
bjornskiJul 10, 2010
Your ad-blocker sucks.
lukas1051Jul 10, 2010
Looks like they're taking a lot of inspiration from Chrome, which is good, I much prefer Chrome's sleek and minimalistic interface. Combine this with all the features currently in Firefox, this looks to be an awesome browser.
jqp123Jul 10, 2010
Top 20 Features Of Firefox 4 (Beta) ... that make it look like FireFox is playing catch-up with all the other browsers out there.
Closed AccountJul 10, 2010
Well someone's got to play "catch-up", all of the browsers can't implement new features at *exactly* the same time. One browser will always be ahead of another in certain respects. However, this may change over time.
Closed AccountJul 10, 2010
It's making FF look like the kitchen sink of browsers, as it's always been.
el_jefeJul 10, 2010
Buried for bad title and plagiarizing.
How do these features make Firefox "stand out"? Most of the features listed are already in other browsers meaning they are not unique. Not a bad thing, just makes it hard to "stand out" when you are doing the same as everyone else.
Smashing apps should have just linked to the source document instead of copying the bullet points straight and passing them off as their own.
quicksilver4648Jul 10, 2010
I'm using the Firefox 4 Beta right now. I like it.
diggmarsJul 10, 2010
its like opera 10.6
technolofluxJul 10, 2010
I just hope it can visit http://www.techno-flux.co.cc
pmwspenderJul 10, 2010
Make it stand out from what? It looks almost exactly like Opera now. http://imgur.com/d1IOJ.png
dimitarnikolovJul 10, 2010
it feels faster and looks better. But I just can't escape the feeling that a lot has been copied from Opera 10 and Google Chrome 5.
flatulencyJul 10, 2010
f**k firefox! Get safari!!!! Much faster!
lvaneedeJul 11, 2010
the beta is good , but Nightly Tester Tools doesnt support it for some reason, so I cant force install my addons :(
peterabelardJul 11, 2010
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trendytimJul 12, 2010
Hmm
Web developers can update the URL field without reloading the page using HTML History APIs.
Isn't that a security issue, unless it only lets you change it within the domain without a reload.