Users who Dugg This
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kageryuJul 11, 2010
Digg! We must pay to keep Reddit alive or we will have to endure an influx of Reddit users after it dies.
krekkoJul 11, 2010
But I don' wanna hear "OLD NEWS WAS ON REDDIT LAST WEEK" anymore =[
brad3378Jul 11, 2010
As a 5 year veteran of Digg, I'll be buried (if not banned) for this comment, but here's a few reasons why I switched to Reddit. I hope Kevin Rose is listening.
Reddit pages load MUCH faster than Digg pages. Digg is too bloated. It's no wonder why threads only go 3 levels deep on Digg. Your computer (and Digg's servers) would never handle it.
Reddit makes it much easier to quickly collapse and expand comments. It also keeps a comment thread expanded so you can upvote the children after burying the parent.
Reddit doesn't give me "token appears to be invalid" error messages when I attempt to post a message.
Reddit allows you to make comment edits past the 5 minute time limit.
Comments edited after 60 seconds are tagged with an asterisk mark. This cuts down on bulls**t-perpetuating comments and encourages users to correct their mistakes.
Reddit allows you to privately message a specific user without sharing your email address in front of potentially 1000's of people.
Digg will ban you for having a 2nd account.
Reddit encourages multiple throwaway accounts so you can preserve your anonymity while posting controversial comments or to controversial topics. Slashdot allows a checkbox to post as an "Anonymous Coward" but unfortunately there's no way to identify one AC from another AC.
Reddit has an Orange Colored Envelope link to *easily* view replies so you don't have to rely on the external servers to view Replies. As a digg user I use http://bleu.west.spy.net/diggwatch/comments/ - assuming that that these servers are even working. They often don't work at all.
Digg is easily manipulated by power users. Not so much on Reddit.
Reddit allows comment formatting - including hyperlinked text.
The users and comments are more intellectual on Reddit. If you like funny pictures of cats stay on Digg. If you enjoy learning go to Reddit or Slashdot.
Digg encourages a "Hive mindset" by showing which of your friends dugg a comment.
It also causes page load times to rise exponentially.
I enjoy the /r/iama and /r/askReddit sections - Digg offers nothing like this.
If you hate the page formatting on Reddit, you can use browser add-ons to make pages more readable.
I use Greasemonkey scripts to place boxes around comments and show up/down votes. I also bumped up the font size with my control key and mouse roller.
Reddit has Porn Section. Digg will ban you for posting a link containing objectionable material. Digg is a police state by comparison.
Reddit offers NSFW tags - I especially like the new feature that keeps the mild stuff on the NSFW1 section separate from the NSFW4 section that will scar you for life. And yes there is material like that.
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
But Reddit is still ugly as s**t
brad3378Mar 20, 2011
Install the Reddit Enhancement Suite.
http://reddit.honestbleeps.com/
csuftechJul 11, 2010
I moved to reddit for many of the same reasons you mentioned (especially the load times of pages). I just got an invite to the new digg beta and I can tell you that the speed increase is amazing. The site feels much cleaner and lightweight while still remaining aesthetically pleasing. I would recommend you join the beta, I have been visiting the site much more often since I got it.
abehammy111Jul 12, 2010
About the bloated problem, I'm using Digg 4 as I type and let me reassure you that it's incredibly fast and snappy, in some cases faster than Reddit.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
crudomaticJul 17, 2010
I gave up on digg about a year ago. Content was just crap, except the content stolen from reddit. Most of the users are assh**es too. You can have a conversation on reddit - on digg, you're a kook, a crazy, an assh**e, etc...
cyrixMar 19, 2011
Oh god, you are 100% right and anyone burying you hasn't the slightest clue what they're doing.
johnnysoftwareAug 19, 2011
Well, a small but disruptive set of Digg users have shown themselves willing to "game" the system as much as it allows.
Allowing everyone to have multiple accounts could allow the to engage in positive-spin, self-effacing "conversations".
FEMA proved during Bush's administration how bad these "posing as the other party in a conversation can be" with its infamous "faux press conference" Faux News were there, naturally, filming it and not disclosing it as a sham -- naturally.
But real news channels and real-life news reporters were not there. They got invited 15 minutes beforehand unlike Faux, which was absurd because DC traffic is heavy and stations/bureaus are not in the same building as FEMA.
FEMA PR department staffers, misrepresenting themselves as real news media reporters, lobbed softball and even complimentary "questions" to the guy running the show & agency.
It was a sham worthy of bad-old-days in Russia. Someone pointed out that back in the day, communist leaders used to use this very trick for propaganda purposes. No wonder the Russians and Soviet Union citizens were dispirited, and business picked up after some house cleaning was done.
So anyway, the last thing Digg needs is self-appointed apparatchiks like the really bent crowds of folks that have done this in hardline "conservative" parties in Russia and more experienced democratic nations like the US.
If you want to play games like that, check if Faux News allows that on their comment board. They seem to have no problem with it in their own broadcasts.
brad3378Jul 11, 2010
6 minutes too late to edit my comment and mention Digg's Dragon Age advertisement fiasco.
khivaJul 11, 2010
How does it make sense for redditors to at the same time claim that digg's content sucks AND that digg gets all its content from reddit?
I check out both sites. The overlap is quite small, and that goes to the system's architecture. Digg is primarily articles, with a few pictures floating around. Reddit is mostly pictures, self posts, and in-jokes, with the few actual articles making their way to the front page tending to be far-let blogspam.
Pluses and minuses to both systems. There's nothing sadder than people getting into a pissing contest over a goddamned website (who also, interestingly, tend to be the same people who think that getting attached to a sports team is dumb).
enkognedoNov 30, 2010
I totally agree... and find it completely hilarious, but expected, that your comment would be down-voted... This is, like so many other things, is a popularity contest of the least witted ones. If you say something sensational, albeit stupid, you'll likely get a positive vote. Otherwise, you're just the guy standing on the sideline bickering about the obvious short-falling sites such as this and/or reddit inherently present. It is what it is...
mlwarriorJul 12, 2010
5 year vet, too. I agree with everything brad3378 said
Closed AccountJul 12, 2010
basically, everything brad said is why I'm leaving you guys ;_;
centranJul 11, 2010
Digg! We must pay to keep Reddit alive or where will our power users get their submissions from?
cakewranglerJul 11, 2010
Stop digging him down, this is the way Digg works, deal with it.
And yes I use both Reddit and Digg, I like them for separate reasons.
dhughesJul 11, 2010
Exactly Cakewrangler I've used Digg since 2005 and Reddit since 2007, two of the biggest sites there are many others, people have to get over themselves both are different but the annoying thing is to see people crow at how superior one is over the other.
This is the World Wide Web you can view more than one page or website it's allowed and yes similar websites exist.
Anyone who only views one site is just foolish, the Web is huge and it's nice to have websites that collect and condenses articles but seeing the same articles hours later obviously the person just sits and watches Digg or Reddit for new popular posts and then reposts them, that's annoying to everyone.
By the way did you consider why Reddit is needing more money? They are growing, fast. Laughing at your competitor for growing isn't very wise.
uncertaintyJul 11, 2010
Dugg for truth.
craftyguyJul 11, 2010
If Reddit falls, there would be no new stories on Digg!
/s
Closed AccountJul 12, 2010
You don't need the "/s" if it's true.
lacanxJul 11, 2010
That or digg will shut down b/c it won't be able to feed off reddit for its news anymore. Nothing but "top ten list about useless things nobody cares about" on the front page after that.
xptoastJul 11, 2010
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kerrigoreJul 11, 2010
"Maybe they should make an online game that only people that are users can use that have paid in. Then as they keep paying in they gain new s**t or can buy stuff in the game. Like WOW but for a website. (BTW I hate WOW. Just an idea.)"
Right, because it's not like game development costs anything.
scanman20Jul 11, 2010
"According to Schiraldi, the site's traffic numbers around 280 million monthly pageviews. However, there's no indication that a wide swath of users are participating in the site's more revenue-generating elements: clicking on ads, sponsored links, et cetera."
Gotta love Adblock.
byakkunJul 11, 2010
Gotta love brains. You need no adblock, you don't click porn ads if you use it for thinking, you may find some ads that are useful or entertaining and you don't kill businesses.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
dhughesJul 11, 2010
I don't usually use it but yesterday when I saw a Scientology ad on digg that was it for me.
kerrigoreJul 11, 2010
This is exactly why I don't use adblock. You're consuming a site's resources without giving back anything, you are the quintessential leech. It's no different than when charity events price things "by donation" and state no minimum donation, and there's always at least one assh**e who decides they aren't going to donate, or only donate a penny or something. Unfortunately with the anonymity of the internet this type of behaviour runs rampant. If you like a website and you want it to remain free to use, then whitelist it on your adblocker. Otherwise, don't be surprised if it goes under or starts other money-making practices like subscriptions. Not to mention, part of the reason websites sometimes use more annoying/intrusive ads is because they have to make up for the fact that so many people block them- not saying this is right, but it happens: "Hey, not enough people are viewing our ads for us to pay for our costs of operation... I guess we'll have to make more intrusive ads to get more views".Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
javaroastJul 11, 2010
@Kerrigore. Bulls**t plain and simple. Ad Block is a response to the ever more annoying ads, not the other way around. Sites initially started with ever more intrusive and obnoxious ads before there was an adblock because the click through on banners wasn't to their liking. Annoying flash ads that covered the content, pop overs, pop unders, ads with obnoxious sounds all came BEFORE adblock. Adblock came into existence only to answer the issue.
bosskeyJul 11, 2010
My problem isn't actually with the ads. I don't care if sites show ads. What I care about is cross-site tracking of my page visits.
isifunded911Jul 11, 2010
Flash ads slow down computers and consume a lot of electricity.
Without FlashBlock and AdBlock I could not browse the web anymore. It would be like going back to 56kb/s internet with a celeron@466mHz.
The problem is not AdBlock. Capitalism is the problem. A very popular and useful site shuts down because of money, while many useless sites backed by very rich people/corporations are still online.
darkness123Jul 11, 2010
@Kerrigore It says you're 23 years old. Do you not remember using the internet before Adblock at all? One thing javaroast didn't mention was ads that changed colour, they annoyed me so much.
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
Adblock is the same thing as recording tv shows and skipping commercials.
johnnysoftwareSep 6, 2010
Commercials do not hack your TV set. Ads can and have hacked computers by exploiting programming flaws in web browsers and operating systems. This has been going on for half a decade or more. Long enough for people to take it into account when formulating their opinions and choosing their analogies.
kerrigoreJul 12, 2010
@javaroast, Darkness123
I didn't mean to imply that the causal relation went only one way. My point is, annoying ads lead to adblock, but adblock also leads to more annoying ads for those who aren't using adblock. It goes both ways.
steveisthedudeJul 11, 2010
Maybe Stephen Colbert will bail them out... He said on his show last week that he is a frequent user of Reddit (to my astonishment, since everyone knows they are simply a Digg copy, why use them?)Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
bigtime2Jul 11, 2010
I wouldn't be surprised if he did. He can afford to bail them out.
1smartguyJul 11, 2010
Digg copy? Digg wishes it had thought of reddits comment system. The comment system is the main reason I use it.
dweeb79Jul 11, 2010
I have access to the new Digg, and yeah.... I'm not feeling it. Reddit may become my new homepage.
tyrghastJul 11, 2010
Dugg because I've been a lover of Digg since that first fateful night in 2007 when we made sweet sweet...
*cough* sorry bout that.
Also, we might want to tread lightly on Reddit's corpse since the last I heard Digg has yet to turn a profit.
supplysidejebusJul 11, 2010
Gotta love Adblock :)
biofusionJul 12, 2010
Digg has been profitable for awhile
1b2aJul 11, 2010
Don't worry. The vast amount of self-proclaimed doctors and professionals on reddit with tons of money will be sure to save their congregation site.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
uclaithJul 12, 2010
do you really think that there aren't any professionals or someone with a phd on reddit? is it a prerequisite that visitors to reddit / digg need to be poor and/or uneducated basement dwellers?
Closed AccountJul 12, 2010
That's only a prerequisite for Digg users. Most users on reddit actually are smart, and not nearly as douchey about it. Commence bury brigade...
jollyspaceJul 11, 2010
I agree! We wouldn't want Digg to be good!
jollyspaceJul 11, 2010
I agree! We wouldn't want digg to be a good site, now would we?
sifumokungJul 11, 2010
Without Reddit, where will you get all your content? This was on Reddit last week.
sejeffJul 12, 2010
+1 funny
oriondrJul 11, 2010
Here's what they think of us:
http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/codck/digg_is_pathetic/
vibr8Jul 11, 2010
I agree, you are all pathetic
bigtreyJul 11, 2010
semicoloncancer 220 points 3 hours ago[-]
The digg comment system is f**king terrible. It lists the replies with the regular comments so half of the s**t doesn't make sense because there is no context. Then if you want to see the replies to a certain post you have to load a new page. When they say reddit is designed badly what they mean is "reddit isn't as pretty as digg"
I f**king lol'd
uclaithJul 12, 2010
what is up with this us v them mentality? why not just visit both sites and stfu about it
its like people who are fans of a sports team and talk about the team's results using 'we'...
frosty122Jul 11, 2010
We're already here. Besides no one asked for your two cents /pun.
mikeyc252Jul 11, 2010
You mean, all the Redditors would go BACK to Digg, the website they left years ago because the complexities necessary to popularize a story, the limited categories, archaic submission process, and ads?
uclaithJul 12, 2010
dont forget the comment system!
i personally enjoy the hivemind at reddit over digg's, but that doesnt stop me from using both sites
enderxenoJul 12, 2010
plus I've been banned a bunch of times for calling Sarah Palin a ****.
Which she is.
She's a great big ****.
omgacanadianJul 11, 2010
You do realize most reddit users are digg users and vice versa?
This has to be one of the dumbest rivalries ever.
deadfox1Jul 12, 2010
THIS.
Closed AccountJul 12, 2010
"Digg! We must pay to keep Reddit alive or we will have to endure an abject lack of content after it dies."
FTFY
kurt832Jul 11, 2010
Dugg because i digg Digg.
dk75eclipseJul 11, 2010
Dugg you because you dugg because you digg Digg.
theexitwoundJul 11, 2010
And I digg you for digging a digger who dugg because he dugg digg.
jjuanml22Jul 11, 2010
This account has been closed by the user
admiralwoofJul 11, 2010
mops-up jjuanml22
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
Dude I Digged it when You dugg that digger's digg for digging Digg.
iupetreJul 11, 2010
THAT'S RACIST!
athenius22Jul 11, 2010
Yo Dawg...
brad3378Jul 11, 2010
Stupid memes like this are why I left Digg
particleman420Jul 11, 2010
i digg that you say you left digg for these jokes but here you are at digg not being gone from digg
crackyjsquirrelJul 11, 2010
I dug digg on reddit 2 days ago..
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
I'm playing Dig Dug right now. You Digg?
tgc1Jul 11, 2010
I digg that you are playing Dig Dug right now. Dugg.
lacanxJul 11, 2010
I'm always confused when comments like this get lots of diggs. It supplies nothing to the conversation, is not funny, and is overall just clutter. Why?Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
cb810Jul 11, 2010
Sorry grandpa
generaljakeJul 11, 2010
Because Digg is slowly turning into Youtube in terms of comments.
jollyspaceJul 11, 2010
MUST UPVOTE THIS COMMENT!
theodenkingJul 11, 2010
Does this mean we win?
schmichJul 11, 2010
Yo dugg, I heard you...
mkriss5681Jul 11, 2010
If Reddit goes bankrupt then we expect the same thing for Digg 48 hours later. /s
hediggmeJul 11, 2010
I see what you did there.
juanie251Jul 11, 2010
Digg does everything Reddit does....but better. And later...but better.
Reddit sucks, on their front page it has a story with the title 'Digg is pathetic.' linking to this page. Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
enderxenoJul 12, 2010
funny, I came here cuz I saw the page about reddit going bankrupt.
Apparently neither of us can stop with the immature bickering.
Look at your comment.
better?! pfft. You must not comment a lot.
and you must not speak your mind a lot then, and enjoy the police state.
formfactorJul 12, 2010
Its funny because its true.
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
I dn't like reddit mechanism because some time my stories are not appeared in the reddit website.
bigtuna47Jul 11, 2010
How is babby formed?
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
I think your grammar also.
cristianbamJul 11, 2010
Heheheh, this one is gonna get over 9000 diggs!
khirzaskJul 11, 2010
WHAT? 9000?!!
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
The best thing about Reddit is that I don't have to put up with s**tty half-assed meme comments like this (yet).
starkerspielJul 11, 2010
That's impossible!
holdemrulesJul 11, 2010
something msut be wrong with the scouter
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
It's his power level or something.
eikon89Jul 11, 2010
No it won't.
bigtime2Jul 11, 2010
There are probably 10 stories on digg that have been dugg 9000 times, and this isn't one of them.
for3manJul 11, 2010
a) He was rockin a meme.
b) There have been over 10 stories in that last year alone to reach the magic 9k mark, some equally on par to the subject here. http://digg.com/all/popular/365days
bigtime2Jul 11, 2010
My bad for not realizing it was a meme.
There are only 12 stories that have reached 9000 diggs, not a lot if you look at how many stories get submitted.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
http://digg.com/comedy/Reddit_is_Pathetic
generaljakeJul 11, 2010
...and they are all raping children.
for3manJul 11, 2010
This was on Reddit last week.
thirstykoalaJul 11, 2010
And it won't be next week.
kashk5Jul 11, 2010
Ha!
aarplaneJul 11, 2010
Except that it will, because Reddit is not going bankrupt. They just want to hire another couple 'o engineers.
101melodyJul 11, 2010
This was on Stumbleupon 2 years ago.
No wait
nealobusJul 11, 2010
This comment actually made me do a spit take. Well done.
generaljakeJul 11, 2010
We're on Reddit right now:
http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/codck/digg_is_pathetic/
sgtfishJul 11, 2010
It's funny reading comments from fanboys on both sites.
It's f**king website. Get over yourselves.
thelairJul 11, 2010
Even though some stories on Digg are copied straight from reddit, you gotta give it up for Digg and their way of succesfully earning money of the site. Something reddit really could learn from..Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
twinklyjesusJul 11, 2010
Yeah, if it weren't for reddit, we wouldn't have digg...wait...uh....nvrmnd.
roguecopJul 11, 2010
You mean links to those sites an stories, that about 100 other news aggregates and blogs link to. Unless you created it, STFU.
entrepreneur75Jul 11, 2010
How come MyBabyMan missed this story
generaljakeJul 11, 2010
MrBabyMan is a traitor. He likes Reddit more than Digg.
nascenttJul 11, 2010
in all seriousness, are there any users that use both that actually prefer digg? (i'm not trolling)
hydesJul 11, 2010
yes
andrewtheartJul 11, 2010
@nascentt -- I usually find the Reddit comments on a particular subject to be more serious, insightful, and in-depth. Digg has more jokers and trolls. Also, I prefer the Reddit comment system over the Digg one. It allows for more than two levels of child comments on a parent comment, and it feels more readable to me. So overall I'd say I prefer Reddit.
I do like the articles I find on Digg on a daily basis a bit more than the articles I find on Reddit.
andrewtheartJul 11, 2010
The other thing Digg has going for it is simplicity. The limitation on the # of child comment levels keeps things under control sometimes.
jonprophetJul 11, 2010
It's Sunday, MrBabyMan has church duties today.
brad3378Jul 11, 2010
He's probably too busy duplicating *HIS OWN* submissions.
http://www.reddit.com/r/photography/comments/cizxv/halfway_in_2010_world_cup_the_big_picture/
http://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/cizxn/halfway_there_pics/
andrewtheartJul 11, 2010
God dang, he needs a life.
louiscJul 12, 2010
That's not how it works on reddit. What he's doing is perfectly valid.
macbookformeJul 11, 2010
Kevin is going to buy them to SAVE their souls ... for sure
http://s3.amazonaws.com/sp.reddit.com/redditAvatarketralnisBIG.png
robertwrightJul 11, 2010
I know about 5 users that will never have anything to sub if this happens...
genericdiggerJul 11, 2010
Reddit isn't going bankrupt, the Internet is just retarded
gv402Jul 11, 2010
Explain how in any universe that sentence makes any sense.
ciaran036Jul 11, 2010
It's not going bankrupt. People are stupid. There you go.
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
Can I have some weed?
hydesJul 11, 2010
best news of the day
breadfredJul 11, 2010
No it is not. Competition is good.
hydesJul 11, 2010
but a monopoly is better
cl2yp71cJul 11, 2010
Digg relies on Reddit more than Amy Winehouse relies on coke.
kinneas12Jul 11, 2010
Fanboys of Reddit should just use something else. I've tried it and the site design is just god awful; I can only conclude that people use it because they started with it.
kronos6948Jul 11, 2010
I tried Reddit once, and you're totally right...the site design was so awful, I never went back.
lacanxJul 11, 2010
Agreed the design, at first glance, is pretty ugly. Its made for functionality and not style. Minimalistic. Actually when I come back to Digg I hate it because of all the clutter. Plus, the comment system here sucks. My 2c
bigtime2Jul 11, 2010
I use both Digg and Reddit. Digg mostly, but when I read everything on Digg there are always a few different articles on Reddit. One thing I like about Reddit is its simplicity, it loads a lot faster than Digg, especially articles that have something like 689 comments, while on Digg an article that has more than 200 comments takes forever to load.
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
I tried Google once, and you're totally right...the site design was so awful, I never went back.
jopedJul 11, 2010
Reddit is a cluttered unorganized mess. No wonder they have no money. Hard to attract new users to crap like that. A little UI effort can go a LONG way.
Also, I don't know how they expect to run a business off ad revenue when they only had 1 ad on the page. Not saying litter the site with ads, but come on. They have their ads so well hidden I actually had to look for it. How the hell do they expect someone to click on it.
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moliver21Jul 11, 2010
Reddit is to Lego blocks what Digg is to Duplo blocks.
If you can't understand the Reddit layout, then maybe Duplo is more suited for you.
mikekmJul 11, 2010
A poor analogy doesn't make up for poor site design.
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
Lego blocks don't make my eyes bleed when I look at them.
demdudeJul 11, 2010
unless you look really, really close.
hydesJul 11, 2010
i tried reddit once, now i wear contacts
bigbadgoatJul 11, 2010
Ohh I understand it. I understand it sucks.
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
I actually went from Digg, TO Reddit. I still use Digg but typically the stories on digg are rehashes of what's already been on reddit (I don't think I've ever seen anything migrate from digg -> reddit)
They aren't going bankrupt either. They're asking what the users think would be a fair price for a "premium" service in order to actually facilitate new features on the website instead of just upkeep with no time for development.
bigtime2Jul 11, 2010
A lot of people went from Digg to Reddit.
I don't know why you're being buried. One of the reasons I am starting to hate about Digg is that if people disagree with your comment they bury it to hell. So even if you leave a relevant comment but you just disagree with the OP (or the author from the article) you no one will read your comment because not many people will see it since negative comments are hidden.
I've been on Reddit for three or four years (for as long as I've been on Digg) and that has never happened, while here on Digg, I bet you that this comment will be buried.
hydesJul 11, 2010
ill take that bet
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
also, digg is ridiculously liberal. all of the atheists and such on digg chill out in /r/atheism, so you get more a a pseudo-liberal leaning, instead of digg.
honestly,i would stop using digg if reddit had a better layout, but you get used to it after a while. i only have a problem with the comments starting out uncollapsed.
also, these are some of the first pro-reddit comments not being buried.
daeusJul 11, 2010
Reddit is Digg on over drive though, theres SO many articles on Reddit and allot are SO very anal/geeky, its not a casual site its a very tightly ran news site (by its user base).
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
I preferred Digg for years but I've recently switched to Reddit. Ya it's not as pretty as Digg, but there are no power users, there is SOO much more content, and pretty much everything you see on Digg was on Reddit 2 days ago. It's like living in the future over there!!! I love /r/IAMA and /r/askreddit. Digg just can't compare.
cb810Jul 11, 2010
You're wrong about power users. The power users there are the moderators that have more power than any user on digg. They block submissions and sites. Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
bigtime2Jul 11, 2010
I wish new Digg would just change its algorithm so power users don't will have it harder to hit the front page.
smacksawJul 11, 2010
I guess you're not in the Digg alpha, because it's surprisingly...reddit-ish. And, I even subscribe to reddit via the Digg alpha, the reddit account, that is.
There's a lot of content on the new Digg and it's much less oriented towards the front page and towards just...anything and everything.
nightmare1228Jul 11, 2010
What I really love about reddit are the discussions. Sure, it doesn't look pretty but the askreddit sub category is one of the best places to get advice or just chat about certain topics. Reddit is all about the discussions, not the look.
putz85erJul 12, 2010
@nightmare
if i want to discuss something i'll talk to friends. Maybe you should get some of those?
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
If you're staying away from Reddit due to a simple design, you're shallow as f**k. Might as well avoid craigslist too.
nascenttJul 11, 2010
also, there are stylish scripts to redesign the site anyway.
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
You can't expect to have these Digg f**ktards to care. People on Digg are f**king Dbags and all they care about is colorful tables. OooOO Shinnnyyyy....
negative4Jul 11, 2010
Lol, QQQQQQQQQQ.
mikekmJul 11, 2010
Usability is a big issue for some people. I spend most of my workday managing reports in Excel format from an Oracle product which aren't the cleanest. The last thing I want to do when I get home to see the latest happenings in the world is deal with a clunky website. It's not shallow, it's called Darwin.
As far as content is concerned, Digg obviously the be all end all. Google news, Bing and any other search engine is easy to utilize as well. Any good researcher or armchair newsophile doesn't rely on one website, source, etc.
mikekmJul 11, 2010
Damn typos, I meant to say Digg obviously isn't the be all end all.
protocoldroidJul 11, 2010
I used Digg for years, now I just use both. Reddit definitely isn't as easy on the eyes as Digg, but I tend to enjoy the content there more nowadays. Also, most of the people at Reddit are pretty cool and sometimes have interesting comments, and on Digg it can feel like everyone's just waiting to start a flame war.
degainerJul 11, 2010
I used Digg for over a year before I thought to give Reddit a try. Initially, I thought the interface was god-awful too but I made myself give Reddit a few days. After awhile, I grew accustomed to the interface and began liking Reddit just as much as Digg.
Digg and Reddit both have their own perks. I don't understand the rivalry between the two sites.
akseitzJul 11, 2010
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nascenttJul 11, 2010
that happens to me loads, you need to refresh. to be fair it's yet to happen to me on the new.digg alpha
lundejaJul 11, 2010
http://i.imgur.com/9wM31.png I proposed some simple CSS design changes like a month ago to basically make it look cleaner. No one liked it.
akneelerJul 11, 2010
That design looks actually pretty cool, I would use Reddit more often if they looked like that.
frogggerJul 11, 2010
release it as a sylish userstyle.
I'd use it!
droklyJul 11, 2010
Here's what my version of reddit looks like.
http://imgur.com/WAkJm.png
gygaJul 11, 2010
You changed link colors and rounded the section tabs at the top?
lundejaJul 11, 2010
I'll definitely work on making it a userstyle on stylish, though I'm not sure how I would inform anyone of its presence.
@Gyga - I changed the colors of a few sections to make the palette more uniform, changed the styling on the register and login areas to make them more noticeable, increased the spacing between stories slightly to provide better readability, lightened the colors of visited links to make the unvisited ones stand out more, removed border colors which tend to cheapen design by giving the appearance of table structure, changed the "play" button on links with embedded video, and improved the submenu at the top by slightly increasing the size and using contrast to make it stand out a little more. Like I said, a few simple CSS design changes. Obviously the time-cost of CSS changes pale in comparison to a major UI overhaul, which is why I proposed it.
stillhateyouJul 11, 2010
Yes, but Reddit doesn't limit the comment nesting to 3 levels, which is easily one of the more annoying things about digg. The new digg doesn't have this problem, but then the site design is pretty crappy, too.
bloqheadJul 11, 2010
If the design alone was the only thing driving you away, then you're just plain retarded.
jack2454Jul 11, 2010
don't judge a book by it's cover
bookantJul 11, 2010
Great advice, but if the typsetters at the publishing company laid out the entire *contents* of the book as one giant wall of undiffereniated text, that'd be another matter entirely.
brklynmarkJul 11, 2010
I'm glad that reddit's design is "bad enough" to deter people who prefer eye candy to content.
fecalfartJul 11, 2010
Yeah, not nearly enough full-page Dragon Age ads for my taste....
negativenancyJul 11, 2010
Nope. I started with Digg and used it for about 2 years before switching exclusively to reddit. So... don't know what you're talking about much?
reinmasamuriJul 11, 2010
This is pretty much what I did too. I loved digg, and I tried Reddit for a week. I came back and I found out that I had read the entire front page already on reddit.
So I stayed for the new news, stayed for the subreddits and self posts.
particleman420Jul 11, 2010
how exclusive is your switch if i'm reading your comment on digg?
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
Because this was submission was submitted to reddit.
speedsteamboatJul 11, 2010
Look here:
http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/codck/digg_is_pathetic/
My favorite part is when they start complaining about how bad Digg's design is because they don't know how to use it. I lolled at the guy bitching about how bad Digg's comment system is because he didn't think to change the order from 'most dugg' (default when not logged in) to 'oldest first' (default when logged in) and the half dozen people that agreed with him.
Second favorite thing, reddit users who come to digg specifically to defend reddit and say stories were "stolen from reddit." *see above my comment*Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
cid420Jul 11, 2010
The points: You missed them all.
speedsteamboatJul 11, 2010
@Cid420: Actually, I didn't.
reinmasamuriJul 11, 2010
A lot of people started on Digg. Digg is just that horribly laid out.
thinkboxJul 11, 2010
The only way to hide someone's comment on digg is to bury them. Also, if you are replying to someone and you bury them your comment goes away if you haven't saved it yet.
Also, the sorting is broken when you sort by BEST, because the replies are out of context. The fact that their broken sorting is default for those not logged in... is funny.
ciaran036Jul 11, 2010
Not true. Reddit's is laid out much better than Digg's. Digg appears aesthetically nice, with nice graphics and use of color. And a better community of users. Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
pyro789xJul 11, 2010
You had me up until 'better community'. Digg's layout is shinier, reddit's layout is more intelligent. The community, however, was the reason I left digg. You guys are absolutely retarded.
particleman420Jul 11, 2010
i've seen quite a few 'reddit did it first' douchebags around here.
if they're an example of reddit users, then i'm glad i dont go there. scroll up and read the s**tty comments "if you dont like reddit you're a shallow retard" and other gems.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
refugeechrisJul 11, 2010
I use it for the original, creative, content and witty, intelligent users as opposed to....well, whatever the opposite of that is...
refugeechrisJul 11, 2010
YA TEH DEZINE IS UGLY N I NEED DUH COLORS N LINES 2 KEEP MAI ATENSHUN NOT WURDZ
kelpdipJul 11, 2010
The website design is why I don't use digg anymore. Digg pages - especially heavily commented ones - will bring my netbook to its knees. Reddit doesn't bog down the pages with bloated code.
cid420Jul 11, 2010
People should use something else because you find it awful?
vodd9Jul 11, 2010
I switched to reddit after 2 years on Digg. I've witnessed the quality of the submissions and comments decline greatly over the time which is my main reason for switching.
particleman420Jul 11, 2010
who the f**k cares who submittedd a story they didnt write?
pyro789xJul 11, 2010
I started with digg. I am now reddit exclusive. Digg's layout is worse, the community is buttf**k retarded, and it's not like I'm missing any stories that would have shown up on digg that wouldn't have been on reddit first.
particleman420Jul 12, 2010
i think you need to look up what the word "exclusive" means
pyro789xJul 12, 2010
I don't check digg anymore. This article was linked on reddit. I treated it no differently than any other reddit article. Digg is no longer my news source.
Closed AccountJul 12, 2010
Amen, brother. I've been on reddit for about a month now and I love it. Not only do I enjoy all the subreddits, but people won't downvote you just because they disagree. Here at digg, "this is the best xkcd ever" gets 1,000 diggs and otherwise intelligent comments get buried. Reddit is -- as a community -- soooooo much more wise and mature. It's like Digg's older brother who's carrying the correct number of chromosomes.
lachtanJul 11, 2010
Nah, not at all.
I started at Digg, but now I barely go here, I'm not sure why tho.
Reddit design could be called awful, but for me it's minimalistic and really simple.
I still don't get this reddit/digg war...
brad3378Jul 12, 2010
This script makes Reddit pages look like Digg pages. http://userstyles.org/styles/26368
Now what is your excuse?
particleman420Jul 12, 2010
so its better than digg as long as you can make it look exactly like it?
vedemaJul 12, 2010
I started out on digg, but I haven't really used it in ~7 months. I have been a redditor for over 2 years and found out about this post only because it was on reddit, not because of a random compulsion to check digg. My account is older than yours; your "start there" theory holds no water.
Get off my lawn.
squarewheelJul 12, 2010
I started on Digg, was here for a few years, then moved to Reddit. The software is lighter, the content is newer, and the community is actually useful.
Closed AccountJul 12, 2010
I've been on Digg since 2006 and the ONLY reason I'm here commenting is because I saw this on reddit. Enough with the "people were on reddit and moved here." I moved away and my only regret is not doing it sooner.
nard3456Jul 11, 2010
So that's why they can't afford a better looking layout.
phillyocJul 11, 2010
I went to Reddit soon after finding Digg because I wanted to check it out, but it was almost unusable from a design standpoint. I really don't know why they have such a generic looking layout.
earthacisJul 11, 2010
You know you can edit whats on your front page right?
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
No he doesn't. He's one of those "I went on the site for two seconds and didn't like it 'CUZ DA DESAIGN SUCKED'" people.
nascenttJul 11, 2010
even thought you can change the subscribed reddits, the design in itself isn't great.
uclaithJul 12, 2010
you realize that the simplified design of reddit makes it run absurdly faster than digg yeah? even including loading (and blocking) all the ads from both sites...
Closed AccountJul 12, 2010
I don't even mind reddit ads. They're so much less intrusive and annoying.
swazoJul 11, 2010
Dude, Reddit, much like Digg was features tech. Snore? Seriously do you even know what site you're using.
renegadeafkJul 11, 2010
At least they have tech on the front page :(
I tend to like reddit's stories/comments better but I agree the site design is atrocious.
nascenttJul 11, 2010
and you can unsubscribe from lolcats and all the other crap that you just can't get rid off from digg
sneezyxJul 11, 2010
As a technical writer, I resemble that remark.
digitalpencilJul 11, 2010
the difference is that Reddit is proud of this..
digg looks at Reddit and pulls the "my eyes are bleeding" card but to Reddit, it's a rickety old shack, without any polish or chrome but it's theirs, through and through.. the site devs actually listen to the community, they'll change the layout and functions for a joke. no-one cares. the search feature's a f**king disaster but it's become a joke in and of itself.
that's the difference. i use both sites and have been lurking on here since digg started but this community's died. power-users came to exert too much power over the front-page (hence why digg's FP is a mirror for yesterday's /r/top). YouTube leaked into the comment threads, everything's tired ascii, forced memes and flamewars and honestly, that's a shame cause this site used to be more.
eikon89Jul 11, 2010
It's kind of like a 4Chan meets Digg, only with s**tty UI.
protocoldroidJul 11, 2010
I'd say Digg is has more 4chan than Reddit. The front page is always littered with lolcats or some other meme.
uclaithJul 12, 2010
and most of the 'memes' here are just forced ones. any actual memes are buried pretty quickly because people would rather look at ascii pedobear #2846750383648
Closed AccountJul 12, 2010
Since moving to reddit, I haven't seen a single xkcd on the front page. I also haven't seen any retarded memes pertaining to it.
lacanxJul 11, 2010
| I really don't know why they have such a generic looking layout.
Reddit's layout=simplistic=easy on the eyes. I prefer it to Digg's cluttered look. To each his own =)
As for your Edit, Reddit - just like digg- is pretty useless until you set it up to match your interests. You justs got shoved a story that is in the wrong subject for you.
renegadeafkJul 11, 2010
Reddit's layout = cluttered mess of text thats hard on the eyes. Digg is sensibly laid out and has nice colors.
lacanxJul 11, 2010
Again to each his own. I find digg harder to read because the colors on the stuff other than the headline - the bury button the digg button, share, made popular <randomredboldtext>30 min ago</randomredboldtext> etc. In reddit the story line pops out, and you don't really see anything else. It makes it much easier to look through. Oh and every submission doesn't need an unrelated thumbnail.
^_^ but i'm just explaining why I personally like Reddit's layout. If you don't mind the random colors like I do than digg MAY look better to you. *shrug*
refugeechrisJul 11, 2010
I think the thought is something along the lines of "substance over style"
mqduckJul 11, 2010
"The site is almost unusable from a design standpoint. I really don't know why they have such a generic looking layout."
I don't see what those could have to do with each other. Anyway, I hear so many people (even on Reddit) complain about its design. What the hell do people feel is wrong with it? I honestly have no clue.
mqduckJul 12, 2010
Incidentally, this is a good example of what's wrong with Digg. Nobody answered my question, but one person buried it.
chrisskeltonJul 11, 2010
Oh, sorry. Should it have been written like this, "Cracked.com lists 13 Server VMs with documentation so good, you'll WANT to RTFM"?
impact0115Jul 12, 2010
YEAH BRO I HAD TO GO LIKE FIVE PAGES DEEP BEFORE I FOUND A TOP 15 LIST FROM CRACKED SO I FEEL YOUR PAIN.
Closed AccountJul 12, 2010
"SNORE."
Yeah, we want lolcats!
phillyocJul 12, 2010
Wow. I wasn't trying to flame the site, just giving my $.02 worth. I didn't realize it would cause this much of a huff.
dirtyfriesJul 11, 2010
Maybe they'd pay if it felt like the money went somewhere (visual improvements, improved usability, etc)
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
Thats the point... The admins are saying that the money will go somewhere. This has never been done before on reddit so theres no precident for them
pantherreloadedJul 11, 2010
But where will we get our content?
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
One of the great things about Reddit is that nobody puts an "/s" after a comment, because users are intelligent enough to decipher sarcasm.
bigtime2Jul 11, 2010
Granted you do make a valid point, but there are a lot of comments here on Digg that are as intelligent as comments on Reddit.
I hear all this "comments on digg are stupid, sound like a bunch of 13 year olds arguing," however, you have the same thing on Reddit. Just start reading comments on the submissions that have 200 or more comments and you'll see as many, if not more, one line memes from 2006 as you will see here on Digg.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
I agree, Reddit is just where Digg was a few years ago in terms of popularity.
Overall, it's most likely due to the large amount of new users both sites are bringing in, which (unfortunately) attract a younger audience. I do remember the days when both Reddit and Digg had intelligent discussions about articles, but now it's just a contest to see who can get the most diggs/upvotes.
ciaran036Jul 11, 2010
No seriously, where will you get your content?
jonjonr6Jul 11, 2010
From the content owners, as we always have.
ciaran036Jul 11, 2010
Jonjonr, a lot of the content which has been duplicated across from Reddit has actually been created by Reddit users. Not all, but some. And this is what infuriates some users, and embarrasses Diggers too.
brad3378Jul 12, 2010
Wherever our digg overlords (i.e. MrBabyMan) choose.
foofoobeeJul 12, 2010
straight from 4chan
louiscJul 12, 2010
Your digg overlords use reddit, actually. And because of how Reddit works, they don't have to game the system.
brad3378Jul 12, 2010
@LouisC
Please elaborate.
What do you mean when you say "because of how Reddit works, they don't have to game the system."
holdemrulesJul 11, 2010
that sucks :(
mymindgrapesJul 11, 2010
Conde Nast owns reddit? Interesting...
hazardJul 11, 2010
If Reddit goes away, where will MBM get his stories for Digg's frontpage?
sloiJul 11, 2010
Philosoraptor wants to know.
onederboyJul 11, 2010
Reposting Digg stories submitted by non-power users.
thesuperpenguinJul 11, 2010
I'm just curious why there's a war between digg and reddit, we should just enjoy both of them for what they are: outlets for important news, and stupid but funny images and videos.
doshindudeJul 11, 2010
Because that's lamepants.
secretrussianJul 11, 2010
Dugg for "lamepants."
burrduggJul 11, 2010
Because Reddit is a cheap clone of Digg. Reddit is envious of Digg's success, so some pretentious Reddit members came back to Digg continuously to whine about how every Digg stories was posted on Reddit first. They kept tooting their horns about the superiority of Reddit, but they could not resist sticking to Digg anyway, go figure.
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crimsonjonesJul 11, 2010
Well son, when you get a bit older you'll learn to appreciate Legos over Fisher Price.
refugeechrisJul 11, 2010
I'll just leave this here
http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/cksqt/stephen_colbert_just_said_he_likes_reading_reddit/
centranJul 11, 2010
Because this is the internets... it's what we do.
dweller99Jul 11, 2010
This has to be the most one-sided war I have ever seen.
Reddit: We had this first!
DIGG: STFU nobody cares.
bigtime2Jul 11, 2010
One thing I don't get about all these "intelligent, PhD, IQ of 120+, I go to MIT, etc.," members of Reddit is how they don't understand that this is what we do on the internet. We share information. One person writes a story, another person reads it and shows it to his/her friends. One of those friends submits it to Reddit so more people can read it. One of the members from Reddit submits it to Digg so more people can read it.
Isn't that what we are trying to do here, share information so we can all have access to it? If you don't want people to share a submission that first appeared on Reddit then you didn't deserve to read it in the first place. It's not like you own it. You just shared a link, that's it.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
bongomanJul 11, 2010
Except the Digg "power user" system makes a mockery of true sharing.
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
>they don't understand that this is what we do on the internet
Really? It seems that the redditors are chiller when it comes to the the topic of reddit and digg. Unless you can't take a bit of ribbing about things poping up on reddit first.
mqduckJul 11, 2010
Reddit hates Digg because the latter has a collective IQ of 60. I'm pretty sure Digg hates Reddit just in response.
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
Yes, all other issues aside I love reddit's threading. Easier to follow than any other forum. Even mailing lists and things like slashdot have similar hierarchical commenting, but reddits comment layout and navigation puts them to shame.
particleman420Jul 11, 2010
because this is an important issue to the many reddit fanboys that are frequenting digg for some reason.
if reddit is so much better and there's nothing original on digg, wtf are you here so often?Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
particleman420Jul 11, 2010
grrr he's right we better bury him
someone probably already made that comment on reddit 2 days ago. thats probably why i'm getting the burys
Closed AccountJul 12, 2010
>if reddit is so much better and there's nothing original on digg, wtf are you here so often?
Many reddit users, myself included, have accounts on both websites because we started at digg. Its not some big hurdle to leap to come back here. I'll also come back over here for discussions (hard to believe, but true) and also when I want some chan-level humor.
And not all of us buy into any sort of adversarial relationships, with the amount of people who got their social bookmarking start here, it holds a particular nostalgic quality that even when we're somewhere else, or here ribbing on you for being 'behind the times' as it were. Its not as common anymore, but on reddit every now and then you'll even see a submission that is one particularly though provoking slashdot comment that we'll discuss.
Also, your speculation on your reason for being burred is a bit off target. It probably has more to do with your attitude than anything else. I originally dugg your comment, but I will be burying it for complaining about burrys. Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
particleman420Jul 12, 2010
oh no, whatever shall i do.
freakk123Jul 12, 2010
I signed into digg for the first time in a while because I saw this story through reddit. I buried you because you're wrong.
I'm a big believer in the whole different strokes for different folks thing, but the reason why reddit users say reddit is better than digg is because they think it is. You can think very honestly think reddit is better than digg and still go to digg sometimes.
ettappelJul 11, 2010
Buy out and shut it DOWN!
d1ckinaboxJul 11, 2010
Problem is they can't find the story on Reddit so they won't be able to donate
phantomjamJul 12, 2010
they cant find it because its not true.
jaytek13Jul 11, 2010
You people who claim to love Digg should take heed here... how many of you use adblock?
Revenue generation from advertisements is what keeps our dear site alive. Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
xptoastJul 11, 2010
This account has been closed by the user
lonewolf01Jul 11, 2010
But Digg also does interesting things with their DiggAds like allowing users to digg or bury ads, and how many users digg those ads (which are often just like normal stories) contributes to revenue.
digg2point0Jul 11, 2010
Two words: Dragon Age.
bigtime2Jul 11, 2010
We all remember those ads.
7ajiJul 11, 2010
That was the ad that made me start using ad-block on Digg.
zb757Jul 11, 2010
I use a Glimmer Blocker because I never clicked the ads anyway and liked the faster load times. Also, entrance and page change ads are f'ing annoying. Ads belong to the side and bottom.
If you need revenue, I guess I could write an automated clicking program for you to enjoy
generaljakeJul 11, 2010
The problem with Reddit is they have too few ads. And their user base, just like ours, is generally internet savvy, everyone has AdBlock.
reinmasamuriJul 11, 2010
Actually I disabled ad block on reddit. Their ads are the only ads I've clicked on in the last 20 years.
holdemrulesJul 11, 2010
Can they get a bailout from Obama?
danbarkerJul 11, 2010
Well, if they change to a bank and the money the users give to Redit counts as a deposit... yeah, they probibly can.
holdemrulesJul 11, 2010
Wow the Obama punch drinkers are out in full force.
twwixJul 11, 2010
Well, with Slashdot and Digg being much more appealing, i am surprised that it's still around.
lacanxJul 11, 2010
I lol'd because on the Reddit side the exact opposite was said. Most Redditors find Reddit's layout to be more appealing. Less cluttered and more efficient. To each his own =)
nascenttJul 11, 2010
you're burying him, but look at the comment systems, you can only nest twice? seriously? the comment system on reddit is so much nicer, and the upvote downvote thing surpasses not being able to bury on digg.
for core functionality reddit is blatantly better. it's just uglier.
ciaran036Jul 11, 2010
Digg... more appealing? If you're 10 years old maybe.
whoaohhJul 11, 2010
http://www.google.com/trends?q=reddit,+digg&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0
The convergence. It's happening.
supertomJul 11, 2010
I await the influx of reddit commenters, burying every comment in this topic.
funkywitdasystmJul 11, 2010
The Downvote Brigade?
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
Talking about downvotes brings downvotes
Closed AccountJul 12, 2010
If the comments are utterly retarded, reddit users will downvote them. If a reddit user doesn't agree with a comment but it's still insightful, they will not. This is yet another reason why I am happy for making the switch. You guys can carry on here, where Captain Picard facepalm ASCII's will have the most diggs and xkcd hits the FP 3x a week. Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
nicnik3Jul 11, 2010
Digg users rejoice!
mazaj423Jul 11, 2010
Good thing someone posted this on Digg so people will actually see the story
generalobviousJul 11, 2010
Reddit's not bankrupt. I promise you.
That site has way too many visitors each day to not generate any money. It's impossible, unless the owner is completely inept to the concept of online marketing.
There are tons of avenues these sites can take to generate massive income. It's not like some dude is just hosting it in his basement FFS...
101melodyJul 11, 2010
Glad you're passionate about it.
bigtime2Jul 11, 2010
You have to be optimistic about everything. That's what he/she learned reading Reddit.
/s, for those that can't tell.
digg2point0Jul 11, 2010
"That site has way too many visitors each day to not generate any money."
No one said otherwise...
But when the cost to run the site is greater than the revenue made from the site, then well... money's gotta come from somewhere.
You really do make a lot of idiotic, un-thought out posts.
generalobviousJul 11, 2010
"You really do make a lot of idiotic, un-thought out posts."
Not really.
Idiots like you are just too stubborn to realize that they probably don't know all about the situation that you think you do.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
digg2point0Jul 11, 2010
"A high ranking traffic site like digg or reddit will never, ever, have trouble becoming profitable."
Except when, as I said, the cost to operate the site exceeds the revenue brought into the site by things like advertisements.
The "nuh uh!" defense stops working in second grade, and just because you want to make the same baseless statement over and over doesn't make it right.
No one ever said Kevin Rose lived in a box or was struggling with Digg. Also, as far as I know, digg has always been an 'actual company' (as opposed to being owned by someone else is my guess at your meaning).
tyrghastJul 11, 2010
"There are tons of avenues these sites can take to generate massive income. It's not like some dude is just hosting it in his basement FFS..."
Out of your own, extensive experience would you care to enlighten us? Digg has been having a great deal of trouble becoming profitable, and it may end up going the way of Reddit.
generalobviousJul 11, 2010
"Out of your own, extensive experience would you care to enlighten us?"
Sure, it's called basic knowledge and education as to how typical online business models work that revolve around user-content driven sites.
What, do you want me to lay out every facet of their business model and point out exactly how they can and should be making money with it?
Where's my contract and how much are you going to pay me to do this? :)Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
inyearstocomeJul 11, 2010
Digg should buy reddit. That solves both sites issues!
ZlegacyJul 11, 2010
Then everyone would leave Reddit when Digg starts tossing up ads that take up over 40% of the viewable page.
renegadeafkJul 11, 2010
adblock bro
bigtime2Jul 11, 2010
They can then call it REDDIGG.
alphaterminusJul 11, 2010
Yes I'm sure Digg is super rich, and why the Digg CEO bolted leaving Kevin to steer the ship. I like Kevin, but news aggregation isn't Google.
ciaran036Jul 11, 2010
That's not a bad idea. Both sites could still exist in such a case. Will never happen of course, since Reddit is owned by Conde Nast.
dahatecatalystJul 11, 2010
Classic ploy. Fake Bankruptsy and you will mobilize more money than you have at arms strength and a band of loyal users.
That said Reddit sucks ass. The site looks like a 4th grader programmed it on Notepad.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
zb757Jul 11, 2010
Don't be hatin' on Notepad. It may not be emacs (or even Nano), but it (usually) works for Windows
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
The term is "arm's length," not arms strength.
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
The headline is totally wrong. Read this: http://blog.reddit.com/2010/07/reddit-needs-help.html
Reddit isn't going bankrupt. Reddit consists of only four engineers and they have too much too do (fixing bugs, working on the site, web design etc). The problem is that Conde Nast (who owns Reddit) isn't taking them seriously enough and aren't giving them enough money to hire new developers.
Burried as inaccurate.
generaljakeJul 11, 2010
Someone actually read the article? Diggers don't read articles we just read headlines and leave funny comments. You must be a Reddit spy.
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
We like pictures of kittens and meme's don't forget about our precious meme's!
nichiplechleJul 11, 2010
Don't forget me too!
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steveisthedudeJul 11, 2010
If the headline is wrong, why is there not the "Reported as inaccurate" banner at the top? Digg does still do that, right? They do care what is true, right????
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
No.
glinsvadJul 11, 2010
Look again.
refugeechrisJul 11, 2010
BUT TEH DEZINE IS UGLY N I NEED BWITE LITEZ N COLORS 2 KEEP MAI ATENSHUN NOT WURDZ
braditJul 11, 2010Submitter
Whenever this topic comes up on the site, someone always posts a comment about how reddit is owned by Conde Nast, a billion-dollar corporation like Time Warner or Cobra, and how if they wanted to they could hire a thousand engineers and purchase a million dollars worth of heavy iron. But here's the thing: corporations aren't run like charities. They keep separate budgets for each business line, and usually allocate resources proportionate to revenue. And reddit's revenue isn't great.
>>>> and this, you say, isn't 'going bankrupt.' Conde Nast can just SHUT DOWN reddit coz it doesn't make them money. period.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
cannabistJul 11, 2010
People that use adblock are bastards and are everything wrong with capitalism. Reddit and Digg are free services, the least you self-righteous bastards could do is look at their ads. Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
thinkboxJul 11, 2010
I use adblock, but not on reddit. Their ads are targeted to our users, funny. And many times the banner is just a "Thank You" for not using ad block"
socokoolaidJul 12, 2010
f**k Ads, buy the T-Shirt
geoff1210Jul 12, 2010
ever since dragon age ive been adblocking digg, but i will never adblock reddit
yoshemitzuJul 11, 2010
The headline is wrong for another reason: "Problem: Reddit users don't wanna give a penny."
Here's a list of all the redditors who've openly contributed via PayPal since this announcement 2 days ago: http://www.reddit.com/r/lounge/about/contributors/
How many of you would open your pocketbooks for Digg?
socokoolaidJul 12, 2010
Hmmm...We can refer back to the Haiti donations...just saying..
fhwqhgadsJul 11, 2010
f**k reddit.
Digg FTW!
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
Kevin, is that you?
GlazemooJul 11, 2010
I personally do not like Reddit, but yet don't want to see it in trouble.
However, a site having alexa traffic rank of 287 is striving for money, sounds pretty ridiculous. Simply using adsense should solve their problems.
In last few months, some users was abusing the site for self promotion, bringing it to that end.
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nedbigbyssgJul 11, 2010
And get bombarded with annoying ads like Digg?
skews13Jul 11, 2010
Somebody will buy it to keep it viable. It's a well established site with a lot of users. If the site is having those kind of problems, it's due to management, not content. Successful marketing skills is what makes for a successful buisness. A quick glance at Reddit's front page shows ads for their proprietary products, not nationally advertised products. Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
ziriuxJul 11, 2010
That is their business model, not to pester you with ads, but with their own product.
skews13Jul 11, 2010
Well, if they're going broke, then they better change the buisness model.
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
theyre already owned by a HUGE company
rtfa
the problem is that company wont give them any money to move beyond a 4 person operation
pakerJul 11, 2010
Reddit was good at one time, until they started accepting stupid personal stories from Reddit users.
santi512Jul 11, 2010
I'm not sure what you mean by "accepting", but I'm sure if those stories made it to the top it was because users were interested.
xexxJul 11, 2010
Those personal stories and self reddits are the reason I tend to read reddit more than digg now... it's far more of a community feel whereas on digg all you get is political flame wars with generic ideology.
the4thaggieJul 11, 2010
Oh no! Mr Babby Man won't have a source of news material to get an edge on the competition! What ever will we do?
101melodyJul 11, 2010
How is material formed?
socokoolaidJul 12, 2010
Reddit is the maker of material
ziriuxJul 11, 2010
Ahh yes, couple of things here. To start out with I hate reddit, while I have a great account on there, the whole system to me is flawed, because of certain sites not being able to submit anything on there. Secondly if reddit goes out, than we'll get all the imgur crap over to digg, which will spam up all the topics with pointless imgur images, such as the once that infest reddit right now. Sure I'll get possibly down voted for hating imgur but that's ok.
Digg has a lot better system I think, plus with the new digg it's giving us something fresh that fixes many things wrong with digg now.
Now onto reddit suffering when it comes to costs, well, the same people that bought them, can actually help them out, budget or not, get a loan out if you have to.
I hope reddit sticks around as competition is necessary and good for both. Even though it's not really competition, when digg is easily beating reddit in Alexa rankings. Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
santi512Jul 11, 2010
Imgur/Reddit user here. I won't burry you for disliking Imgur, I'd just like to know: what's wrong with using Imgur as a host?
dustd3monJul 12, 2010
Imgur has a little amount of ads, a colour scheme that isn't gross, uses flash appropriately and has a minimalistic site design so that page transitions are quick.
And we can't have that.
volandoJul 12, 2010
2/10
apokalyps2547Jul 11, 2010
It must have been all the money they spent on quality website design.
hahahahahaha, I can't even type that with a straight face.
giggitygeekJul 11, 2010
This is the first time I've signed into Digg in forever. But I had to. That a comment as inane as yours, and so lacking in wit or merit, should meet with the approval of 16 people completely illustrates why I could never return to Digg. Up until now it has been difficult to convey to those not conversant with Digg and Reddit just why Reddit is so superior. Thank you my friend; a screenshot of your comment will do the job very well.
vishalrixJul 11, 2010
Dude I am here from reddit too, but I get the joke. Once you allow for the idea that reddit design is junk ( as many here do), its a witty comment, isn't it? Just don't take it seriously!
For the record, right now I prefer reddit design, but having gone there from Digg, I remember my first reaction was that its not a good design. Actually it took me 3 months before I switched properly , all because of the different design, which many think of in inferior/superior paradigm, but which is actually just different.
Also I too have logged in here after a LONG long time! See ya on reddit.
Closed AccountJul 12, 2010
Digg user since 2006. Reddit user since 2010. After two days, I was used to the new format and actually prefer it now. See you on the other side.
michalp92Jul 11, 2010
This is why we can't have nice things.
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
the design is better than diggs.
every time you load a page here its 30 seconds of f**king scrolling web 2.0 slow ass fisher price looking nonesense,
JUST to read comments.
you can load a reddit page in seconds, with twice as many comments.
furthermore reddit doesnt have full page f**king dragon age or massengil ads everywhere.
mrarpaJul 11, 2010
Although reddit is predictably left wing and politically correct (even more than me) you will often get posters with real insight and specialist knowledge, let's hope their situation improves.
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
Really? Because I see humor on there that would be jaw-droppingly offensive in any other situation.
ghostalkerJul 11, 2010
And nothing of value was lost.
rat_manJul 11, 2010
Should I laugh?
scy1192Jul 11, 2010
Thank you Ad-Block Plus!
nard3456Jul 11, 2010
So if reddit goes down, we'll be first, right?
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
You'll be second. 3 days after reddit goes down
moliver21Jul 11, 2010
Personally... I used Digg exclusively for nearly three years. I never would have considered myself a "Digg" only guy, but recently I've found myself on Reddit far more often and usually only hit up Digg now when there's nothing left for me to read on Reddit.
I've tried to identify what it is about the site that converted me, and I gotta say... it's the personal touch to it. The personal stories, stuff that you find in /IAmA and /AskReddit. I couldn't believe my eyes the first time I stumbled on /gonewild. How incredible is that? The community there seems a little more homegrown, a little more personal, a little less internet troll and a little more about "Sure I'll listen to what you have to say and give you my honest opinion." I guess that's what did it for me. Not everyone is going to have that same kind of experience, so I can only speak for myself.
People here on Digg often bash Reddit's site layout... and yeah most people who are accustomed to Digg's format may be immediately turned off by Reddit's because it's not the same. I personally didn't find it the least bit difficult to comprehend, it just took a little bit of time to get accustomed to it. Like going from one first person shooter to another, they're not all identical.
kernel16Jul 11, 2010
So you're into the forum aspect of it... They have sites catering to that solely you know.
jgclark123Jul 11, 2010
Yeah, like http://reddit.com/r/AskReddit .
santi512Jul 11, 2010
I think he means he's into the community behind the forum.
scottdamanJul 11, 2010
Gotta say, the exact same thing happened to me last month. I rarely come to digg now except for when I run out of things to read on reddit, which is what is happening right now.
spectreJul 11, 2010
Glad I wasn't the only one from Reddit who felt this way. I spent years on Digg until I got into a deep highly technical conversation about propulsion engineering in a thread on Reddit. I was hooked on the community after that. Digg is nice, but Reddit is family. I think that's the big difference.
geoff1210Jul 12, 2010
Been here on Digg since 2006, and i can honestly say the content has been going downhill. My story is pretty much the same as yours.
I know everything on the internet is a repost of a repost but my god i feel like over the past 4 years digg has been becoming increasingly more "lolcat" and cute funny animals, and less tech and legitimately funny original content. I actually made the switch a week ago, used the reddit dark greasemonkey script, and immediately found the content to be refreshingly new (er) and the comments to not be as mind numbingly retarded. I come to digg after i'm done reading through reddit.
I swear, I really did love digg, but it just isn't how it used to be.
bigtime2Jul 11, 2010
You have some valid points there. Digg should have done the same thing. I know copying is not the best way to succeed, but if Digg realized that a ton of its users were leaving for Reddit, Digg could have changed some things and been better. Adding self posts (iama, askdigg, etc.), removing power users, etc.
dhughesJul 11, 2010
I get a kick out of people who say Reddit looks horrible, Digg didn't always look this way in fact there was outrage when it changed it's style a couple of times to what it looks like now, who knows what Reddit will look like in two years or what Digg will look like in two years.
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
Reddit will look about the same in a few years. Whenever they add new features they hardly ever sacrifice the design. The biggest change was adding thumbnails, but I turned thumbnails off and its looks rather similar to the way it did when I found reddit in 2006, beautiful in its simplicity.
negativenancyJul 11, 2010
I think the funniest thing about all this is how most redditors have digg accounts that are years older than many of the most loyal digg fans. Many redditors who prefer reddit usually made the decision after directly comparing both sites, as opposed to many digg users who prefer digg because it is the only site they know.
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
Like me :)
Following it from the reddit side, every now and then there will either be a wave of new digg users coming over (like when the HD-DVD key thing happened here) or the more frequent "who else came here from digg" post.
I'm not going to hop on the reddit v digg issue because I use both and think any adversarial relationship, even just implied in comments is stupid, but at the same time I only see migration in one direction.
mooky1977Jul 12, 2010
Digg, and sensationalistic submitter, you suck.
Signed,
Another loyal redditor who has had a digg account 2 years longer but saw the light and never looked back and just signed into digg for the first time in almost as long.
geoff1210Jul 12, 2010
2006 here, and i went to reddit, hated the design, came back to digg, but this past year the content has gone to s**t.
I switched back to an account i made in early 2009 just this week and can confirm with a straight face that the content and comments over there are WAY better. If you are an OLD digg user who thinks the same about digg i highly suggest you try reddit again.
this helped me come to like the layout more:
http://userstyles.org/styles/19617
michaelzhaoJul 12, 2010
My experience almost mirrors geoff1210's. Lurked digg for several months and registered in early 2006.
I tried leaving for reddit in 2007, but the site design was very different from digg and I couldn't make the jump. However, I made the switch and haven't looked back about 2 years ago, after realizing the commenting at reddit is much more thoughtful than at digg. It's much easier having an in depth conversation on reddit, whether its over a controversial foreign policy stance or regarding the potential feasibility of a biomed device in r/ECE.
I feel like this is true especially regarding politics, what would be voted up just for at reddit for a dissenting, yet well-thought up post, would either be ignored here or buried to oblivion. I feel that diggers overall aren't as open-minded as most redditors and fail to see the "deeper" intricacies of most global affairs situations.
There was a time when digg was excellent, when it stuck to the technology/gaming only stories. I believe digg started going downhill when the friend system/power users was implemented. The variety and specificity of the subreddits really allow for a highly personalized experience and allows for interaction with people that *really care* about the topic at hand.
gregloireJul 11, 2010
The Gone Wild section is the greatest thing on the internet.
vishalrixJul 11, 2010
Dude son't spoil it by inviting more males. As it is there are dicks galore there ;)
gregloireJul 12, 2010
But they're all labeled as [m], and they never get very popular anyway. Kind of hard to stumble across unless you're looking for them...
robotkittenJul 11, 2010
The exact same thing happened to me. I used both but the personal touched kept me on reddit, and now I rarely use digg.
cuisinartbladeJul 11, 2010
"recently I've found myself on Reddit far more often and usually only hit up Digg now when there's nothing left for me to read on Reddit. "
... and started having strange feelings of deja vu
impact0115Jul 12, 2010
As much as I love Reddit, I think the last thing it needs is advertising on Digg...I'd hate to have an influx of users that think "HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAROFLHAHAHAHAHAA" is a particularly ingenious comment.
sqyarcJul 11, 2010
Reddit & Digg are identical. How do you guys manage to compete so much when your purpose, functions & methods are precisely the same?
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
I don't want to sound like a controversial douche but there are a lot of minor and major differences. The way Digg monitors its submissions are more strict in a way. The only Reddit takes off are those that are against the US Law, yes the US Law. On Digg, both members and admins have a lot of power. Digg is also visually more "web 2.0" but they both function almost the same. And Digg has more ways to monetize than Reddit does.
sqyarcJul 11, 2010
Well that's a good response - thanks for the info :)
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
I don't want to speak too soon but I'm pretty sure there are people who ONLY like to be on Digg or Reddit and despise the other.
kernel16Jul 11, 2010
The only stories that get exported from Reddit are the 4chan wannabes, maybe because a larger portion of reddit users are /b/tards as well. Otherwise, Digg is good to go on everything else.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
ROFL
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alancayceJul 11, 2010
WTF is that?
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/000098718/profiles_LaughingRoflSmileyLJ_0940_451134_media_square.gif
gv402Jul 11, 2010
... so what is it?
Closed AccountJul 11, 2010
http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/000098718/profiles_LaughingRoflSmileyLJ_0940_451134_media_square.gif
phre3k187Jul 11, 2010
case in point
volandoJul 12, 2010
exactly why i left digg
ouzeJul 11, 2010
Hey, you know what I'd pay for an @Reddit email address?
The same as Reddit users, apparently! /rimshot
Thanks, folks, I'll be here all week. Try the pepper steak!Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.