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atarioAug 11, 2010
"In 2008, Congress passed the Higher Education Opportunity Act (HEOA), which included sections requiring every school that takes federal funds to 1) notify its students about copyright infringement issues and 2) develop a plan to address them.
The Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) lobbied hard for these provisions"
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arschgaudiAug 12, 2010
Awesome use of your education, distributing, err, sharing, copyrighted material.
travelsonicAug 12, 2010
Which is only illegal when sharing it without permission of the copyright holder, derpazoid.
inactiveuserAug 12, 2010
Paid shill
inactiveuserAug 12, 2010
Let the plutocracy continue...
Now in your dorm room at YOUR expense.
(Just think of all the extra interest the banks can make from your fees)
icadilAug 11, 2010
I am living off campus this year, for this very reason.
tunitg6Aug 11, 2010
Boo!
I think the point of going to college is to share things with other students, you know broaden your music, movie, media base.
Cracking down on students is easy, but at the same time ineffective.
Torrenting FTW!!!
hardwalkerAug 11, 2010
on campuses, mine at least, only noobs use torrents
the university network acts like a giant LAN, a 4gig movie takes 30 seconds to grab lol
tunitg6Aug 11, 2010
Woo! 30 Seconds!
I'm going to college this year...so I guess I have one more thing to look forward to!
kaidovakAug 12, 2010
The university I worked in the IT office of for 4 years blocked inter-computer routing. Stopped most network aware worms in their tracks, but also prevented just what you're describing.
eurynom0sAug 12, 2010
Yeah but how do you think that content gets on the network? Torrents. That's how. Even if it's not done on campus; one time I was in the chat room of my school's DC++ hub, and someone was taking requests for stuff to torrent over winter break.
explodingzebrasAug 12, 2010
surely the best way of sharing even between computers on a single campus would be torrents
explodingzebrasAug 12, 2010
it's either that or sneaker-net....
hardwalkerAug 12, 2010
@kaidovak
if fine folks like you could stop it that easily then we wouldn't be any good at it now would we :D
stubearAug 12, 2010
Ummm, no. The point of college is to obtain an education so you can enter the workforce with a reasonable job as opposed to being a head fry chef.
travelsonicAug 12, 2010
Indeed, but that doesn't mean work is the only thing you do.
speedsteamboatAug 12, 2010
No, that's the point of vocational school.
The point of college is to find out your own passions and learn how to think creatively and independently to pursue them. It's about discovering what you're capable of and finding out the world doesn't end at the edge of your home town. If you leave college without achieving that, even with a degree, your time and money was mostly wasted, IMO.
jasmareeAug 11, 2010
Yay for me. (Incoming freshman)
ghostwoAug 12, 2010
It's a trap! Get out while you still can. Half of freshmen never graduate.
jasmareeAug 12, 2010
Eh, I have a four-year full scholarship. No reason not to try.
Closed AccountAug 12, 2010
Yeah! Because so many people fail, don't even bother trying!
patm1987Aug 12, 2010
Don't listen to Ghostwo. I graduated from a four year college last year and have a nice stable job as a game programmer (although I probably work a bit longer than some people, I'm certainly not living out those horror stories like EA spouse). What I learned during those four years is irreplaceable and is the only reason that I have the skills required for my position (having so much knowledge condensed in one place is great and the weight of maintaining a passing grade forced me to stop being lazy, buckle down, and actually finish my work).
Closed AccountAug 11, 2010
The description sounds like multiple euphamisms for buttsex.
StrutThatAssAug 12, 2010
MPAA is euphamism for buttsex.
lightfire409Aug 12, 2010
Alright students, prepare for out deep packet inspections.
iceman21Aug 11, 2010
The article feels a little biased and the inset picture is dumb.
braggnforgAug 12, 2010
Arrrr
scotty562Aug 12, 2010
The harder they push, the faster tech evolves to obsolete these guys. Sooner or later they'll be finished digging their own grave.
arschgaudiAug 12, 2010
And when that happens their will be nothing left to share.
travelsonicAug 12, 2010
Don;t know, since that day will never come - people will create, people will capitalize off their creativity, others will share it for free. That's how it has been, and how it will always be, regardless of the fear mongering and outright bulls**t from the recording industry.
Look, the piracy = death of all media" crap wasn't true 10, or 20 years ago, and it isn't true now.
stubearAug 12, 2010
10-20 years ago they didn't have to deal with the ability to share an exact copy instantly to millions of people around the globe.
travelsonicAug 12, 2010
"10-20 years ago they didn't have to deal with the ability to share an exact copy instantly to millions of people around the globe."
But "piracy" and unauthorized duplication was still a big enough problem for them - "Don't Copy That Floppy" [software], Betamax case [which established a major aspect we recognize easily as fair use], etc.
arschgaudiAug 12, 2010
That's true. Loss of income, whether its 10% or 50% is still a loss.
lucutusAug 12, 2010
Lame. Files will be shared. This can not be stopped.
kaidovakAug 12, 2010
no such thing any more
lucutusAug 12, 2010
I have four unlimited data plans all with 3G speeds right now. Two of them I don't even pay for. Three cell phones and a 3G cellular modem card with router. Are you saying that which I have and use do not exist?
The one I use most (like right now) has logged 211 gig in the past 1100 hours. I have not paid any extra for my free de-branded Sony Ericsson or the data plan its on.
kaidovakAug 12, 2010
How long ago did you start your plan? Are they grandfathered in?
lucutusAug 12, 2010
The one I use the most was a grandfathered plan. One other is as well. Two are less than six months old.
suricouAug 12, 2010
That 4.4GB file?
lucutusAug 13, 2010
Yes. HSPA+ at 28 Mbit/s is already available in some places. My phone supports it but it is not available in my area :(
Faster is already proven in theory. 3GPP LTE is already available in limited markets with a 100Mbit/s capacity. There is more to come...
mbtriaAug 12, 2010
The entertainment industry certainly gets what they think is the best law that money can buy.
arschgaudiAug 12, 2010
Obama sees to that.
phillyocAug 12, 2010
You idiot. He has been pushing net neutrality laws through the FCC since he got elected. Something tells me you were never really worried about went on in colleges anyway.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/19/technology/internet/19net.html?_r=1
mbtriaAug 12, 2010
I am no fan of Obama, but he is not responsible for this. The entertainment industry has been purchasing law from Congress for many decades. Put the blame where it belongs.
smeddAug 12, 2010
It's funny how people don't read anything and blame someone. I'm not American but I know Obama wasn't president in 2008 when the law was passed.
guitmusic11Aug 12, 2010
Protip: If your university uses bandwidth caps you can usually get around them by using an off-campus vpn on campus. If you use your school's vpn then all of your traffic appears to be contained within the campus network and will not be recorded as bandwidth usage.
boyprodigy1Aug 12, 2010
The University of Wyoming has been up to this for at least 2 years now. Everybody just moves off campus.
lightfire409Aug 12, 2010
...... s**t
phillyocAug 12, 2010
FTA: "...faculty and staff are trusted to use P2P applications responsibly."
What a load of s**t those leech bastards are just trying to hog all the bandwidth.
soleanthiaAug 12, 2010
"Do as I say, not as I do."
We all know the staff will be taking full advantage of P2P cause they know they can't get in trouble. It's bulls**t.
russ3Aug 12, 2010
is this private colleges too? i just decided to go back to college, and i was looking forward to that sweet sweet high speed internet. Also, does this include Community colleges? That could be quite a burden for small schools.
eurynom0sAug 12, 2010
Any college that takes federal funds; so presumably if University X has even a single thing they take federal funds for, say a single research grant in the biology department, the entire university is affected.
dijkstra22Aug 12, 2010
I go to Cornell, and really don't understand what their method entails. Can someone enlighten?
dijkstra22Aug 13, 2010
Why'd I get dugg down, I was asking seriously.
bipolarruledoutAug 12, 2010
And no drugs or underage drinking while your at it. I'm sure this will be VERY effective.
eurynom0sAug 12, 2010
As someone who just graduated from college, I can say that every attempt I saw to crack down on drinking or drug use just made things worse, since you're driving it further underground.
Hell, even once you turn 21, many schools forbid you from drinking in any "public" area such as your dorm common room. So it is actually considered okay to drink alone in your room, but not with other people in your common room. Yeah, that'll encourage healthy drinking habits.
kibblesnbittsAug 12, 2010
I've been to two universities. One "Dry" campus, and one regular campus. Proportionally, the dry campus had more cases of alcohol poisoning than the regular university.
eurynom0sAug 12, 2010
I should have mentioned the glaring difference between the housing contracts between the time I stayed at GWU housing for an internship, and when I stayed in a dorm in Heidelberg while taking language course.
Paraphrasing GWU: You can't ever drink anywhere that, god forbid, someone might see you.
Pretty much verbatim from Germany: No drunken behavior.
Now the German one still had the thing about illegal drugs, but at least on booze they have a much healthier attitude.
cerebronAug 12, 2010
"You can't stop the signal Mal."
hckynck20Aug 12, 2010
If your in college a good program to use is Mojo, the newest version sucks but if you look around and find the older version you can view other peoples itunes library and download from them on the schools local network. tell all your friends to do the same and you will have a limitless supply of music and movies
deathray2kAug 12, 2010
DC++ is great for campuses, because with enough people someone's bound to have what you're looking for, plus it's all on the campus network, so super fast and doesn't count towards an outside usage limit if they have one.
explodingzebrasAug 12, 2010
you're*
nepidaeAug 12, 2010
Its funny because I'm sure the college aged children of RIAA members/government officials never pirate. And by never I mean its quite likely that all of them have.
bobsagetfanAug 12, 2010
Megaupload/Mediafire/Rapidshare>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>torrents.
travelsonicAug 12, 2010
Rapidshare = s**t
Megaupload = ok, better than Rapidshare
Mediafire seems pretty cool.
netneutralityAug 12, 2010
What is wrong with you both? Multiupload and Sharebee all the way... :)
hellotylerAug 12, 2010
VPN to home, Truecrypt Archives, Win
opiticaAug 12, 2010
Sorry but i dont have full duplex upload speeds from my home.
gzalziAug 12, 2010
No Peer-to-peer file sharing is allowed on the University of Tennessee campus, as in it is blocked completely. It sucks.
travelsonicAug 12, 2010
"It actually allows for-profit pirated DVD selling to thrive"
So does other methods, we don't man them do we?
This is the same kind of logic that allows my college [Westchester Community for now] to bulls**t a blanket ban on all games because of some gambling problem or fighting problem, an issue when pressed to prove they never have.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
speedsteamboatAug 12, 2010
I get your point, but I think you misunderstood his.
zunipusAug 12, 2010
This is more DRM: Digital Rights Manglement.
It starts at the schools. The precedent is set to infiltrate the entire Internet, destroying Net Neutrality and putting us on under surveillance.
The underlying premise of this is: WE ARE ALL CRIMINALS.
The response is described in what I call 'The Marketing Moron Rule': Treat your customers as s**te and they'll reciprocate in kind. Thus the RIAA and MPAA members lose money from customer retaliation, CREATING criminals by treating all of us as criminals.
What actually works is 'The Marketing Maven Rule': Treat your customers with respect and they'll reciprocate. It requires less work and provides more reward.
howcleverAug 12, 2010
I think the industry has chose to go with the "do whatever the f**k we want to because we write all the laws" rule.
speedsteamboatAug 12, 2010
Yes. This.
I typically have much greater hesitation to buy something than download it, because I do not want to support unethical business practices and laws like this.
Interestingly, the opposite is true of any product of Valve, Radiohead, NIN, etc, all which I have actually gone out of my way to purchase, even in physical form.
I'd bet a lot that I'm not alone.
inactiveuserAug 12, 2010
RIAA: Dear criminal
We don't care how you feel
We just want our monopoly so its always OUR records and artist hitting number one.
zunipusAug 12, 2010
"We love the American system of government"
The Corporate Oligarchy
bulletbillxAug 12, 2010
All DRM, tracking, deep packet inspection and other content protecting measures are eventually routed around/cracked/etc. So I see it all as a horrible investment and waste of time.
xtrekAug 12, 2010
HaHa...
Offshore VPN with strong encryption here I come.
gusterbearAug 12, 2010
The larger question is...
Is there any media out there WORTH pirating? Music maybe, but that's fairly easy. Movies on the other hand, most suck, and those that are worth pirating are actually worth buying to have a copy.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
freetalkliveAug 12, 2010
I could make a s**tty movie and blame it's failure on pirates.
opiticaAug 12, 2010
0/10
netneutralityAug 12, 2010
Why stop at universities? It's arbitrary the judgment of which communities should be filtered like this and which should not. Unfortunately since there's no chance of people stopping pirating stuff, lawmakers will gradually work to mandate this ludicrous filtering garbage everywhere. >:-(
jmrocketAug 12, 2010
I'm not an American, but man... living in school would f**king suck.
riverstyxAug 12, 2010
Its funny, they're doing their part to piss off the future middle/upper class generations..The ones with lots of money, in particular. This might have some unforeseen consequences later on. Always like business to not think about the long-term effects, good luck with that.
sexyboboAug 12, 2010
I will admit the College i use to work for was fairly small and had no dorms but we filtering and trying to stop pvp on our network long before any of these bills came along just because we only had a certain amount of bandwidth and we weren't going to wast it all on student downloading torrent on their laptops.
prodigitalsonAug 12, 2010
So what they are saying is the kids that live apts/houses on campus can now actually sell burned disks of popular p2p downloads for a couple bucks to the bitches in the dorms and make money for weed and beer. Yet the MPAA/RIAA/Software Vendors will still see no $$$. Thats brilliant....
suricouAug 12, 2010
Pirates need to work on countering this. Improved p2p software with encryption can go a long way, but there is still the issue of sheer volume. If you're downloading 4.4GB movies every week, the university will notice just the number of bytes you need. I think solutions here could include-
- The old sneakernet: Exchange hard drives with friends.
- Wireless bypass: Run your own AP, hooked up to nothing but your file-sharing box, and invite anyone in the dorm to connect.
- Better compression. The releasers need to learn that not everyone has endless capacity. A lot of films can look just as good in a 2GB file as they do in the currently-standard 4.4GB file. Spend the extra effort when encoding to optimise settings and determine what bitrate you actually need.
0212Aug 12, 2010
My college blocks POPs protocol. I'm not even allowed to use MSN messenger. They also blocks Skype, but they allow ssh.
I tunnel into my house router to do anything of these. The thing that is really annoying me that they limit the bandwidth to any wireless user to 512KB.
Screw my school
thanatosstAug 12, 2010
Go to a real school.
Closed AccountAug 12, 2010
possibly the only time on digg that me going to a private christian school would be considered an educated decision!
suricouAug 12, 2010
Where downloading a movie may get you a verbal warning, but looking at porn gets you expelled.
Closed AccountAug 12, 2010
not true.
suricouAug 13, 2010
Depends on the school. They have a bit of a holier-than-thou competition going, which can lead to them going to very extreme lengths to maintain 'purity.' I know students have been suspended from one school for holding hands on campus.
rhawk187Aug 12, 2010
Ohio University has been blocking BitTorrent traffic for a while. Basically if you're found using it or with a virus sending nastiness across their network, they just block your MAC address. I don't think they even yell at you or anything, until you ask to have it reinstated. MAC spoofer should get around that though.
World of Warcraft patches still seem to work, but they don't accept the "it's just linux isos" argument.
Quick VPN into the network back home and they can't tell the difference though.
suricouAug 12, 2010
What about encrypted bittorrent? There are countermeasures to the detection, though they don't always work well.
If you're downloading multible gigabytes every day, even if they can't work out exactly what you are downloading, suspicions will be raised.
clbwAug 12, 2010
I am curious, has the MPAA or RIAA had any luck stoping the peer to peer sharing or the pirating of content using the heavy handed means they've been using? It looks to me it is still very much alive and well. Also, what the goal? is it to stop this activity entirely? Do they think that if the completely prevent peer to peer then there sales will go up?
kevroAug 13, 2010
Music: Groove shark, mega upload. Video: official streaming sites (ABC, CBS ect. ) Icefilms.info, stagevu. Video games: Usenet, Mega upload, emulation.