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infestusJul 1, 2010
wish the us did this
tsothaJul 3, 2010
Who is going to pay for it?
ontainJul 3, 2010
you have a right to property but you still have to pay for it don't you?
you have the right to bare arms but you still have to pay for the gun.
in the US there's a lot of areas with crap service options.
hipmanJul 3, 2010
"in the US there's a lot of areas with crap service options."
Gee, I wonder why that could possibly be?.Ever looked at a map?.
tsothaJul 3, 2010
I'm assuming the Fins are trying to set broadband up like other utilities, or mail service. But those things are expensive partly because people who are easy to serve subsidize people who aren't. If I live in a cabin 100 miles from anything and demand my broadband, are they going to charge me the million dollars it would cost to provide service, or are they going to charge the other million customers an extra buck?
I'm guessing the latter.
aquileriaJul 3, 2010
The US is many times bigger and has many times more people than Finland!!
cjw10Jul 3, 2010
@ontain, The things you mentioned don't require and infrastructure to be setup though. Me having a right to buy a gun doesn't require something to be build (such as cable lines & servers). Broadband requires an existing infrastructure in place to provide the service, and that costs money. Creating a law that would require broadband access to all citizens would drive up costs for everyone (as tsotha said).
I like how everyone using reason here is being dugg down by the people who sit in the chair and say "Yeah, broadband for everyone sounds good, lets do that..." without thinking about it at all.
affectJul 3, 2010
The s**t here is way overpriced. 10$ a month, like a phone line is more reasonable. Higher speeds are the premium and you pay much more. Make it available for everyone.
ontainJul 3, 2010
stupid americans believe rights are only what is stated in the Constitution. While the smart ones know that rights are whatever we the people decide is a right under law. Sadly our government is now controlled by the corporations and the stupid are outnumbering the smart.
baphclassJul 3, 2010
You misspelled the term "bear arms." You're in no position to be calling anyone stupid.
drsolaceJul 3, 2010
He also didn't capitalise the first word in his post therefore his whole point is null and void.
affectJul 3, 2010
bare arms?
fr0stbyte124Jul 3, 2010
Yes. We have the right to be sleeveless.
eikaiJul 3, 2010
Indeed, I think the consitution is pretty stupid.
Like back when the Westboro Baptist church protested at a soldier's funeral, they had a right to 'free speech'.. That's pretty crazy. Free speech should be more dynamically given depending on the situation.
airportbaldyJul 3, 2010
Don't worry, the US will probably make this a right for large corporations soon.
esb82Jul 3, 2010
Wilson, NC, and Monticello, MN, came close with their public-option ISPs: http://bit.ly/8P1BZ
Closed AccountJul 3, 2010
Um if you don't like it how about moving to finland?
Idiot
craftyguyJul 3, 2010
@infestus
Why not make corvettes, ribeye steaks, gold watches, and every other luxury under the sun a "legal right" too, right??
Hey, because money grows on trees, and people should not be expected to earn luxury items themselves, but should be given them "just because"!
/s
Closed AccountJul 1, 2010
Yeah. We shouldn't have to work for the internet. It's a God-given right.
localzukJul 2, 2010
Way to understand... They have to pay... The providers just now can't say no to providing them with access if they request it.
virinixJul 3, 2010
The providers will just find other ways of saying no. This law is full of loopholes.
localzukJul 3, 2010
virinix - most countries have ways to solve issues like that. Things like being able to go back to the discussions in government about the law, to use the 'spirit' of the law.
So, if a company acts like a douche in that way, they would end up in court, with the prosecution referring back to the original govt. discussions about why the law was created. So, the court can see that whilst the company might not be in breach of the written law, they would be in breach of the intentions of the law.
Not to mention, for once, the market would soon kill off douche companies like that - all it'd take is for one company to come along and say 'sure, we'll follow the spirit of the law' and voila, people will jump ship.
thebigbentleyJul 2, 2010
Who's paying for this God given right?
kennykljJul 3, 2010
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getoffmybridgeJul 3, 2010
The customer.
omg socialism!
marshalrustyJul 3, 2010
Who said anything about "God given"?
thescorpion420Jul 2, 2010
They aren't saying its a right to have it, just to have it available.
thegreatsamJul 3, 2010
Which is how it should be. It shouldn't be forced on those that don't want it (for whatever reason, think Amish), but it should absolutely be available to whoever wants it.
zerobriersJul 2, 2010
When you think about it, it's not dumb for an American city to offer free broadband. In a free market, this is a way to spend money to attract tourists (stay here, the internet is on us) and jobs. As the internet becomes critical to the workplace, free broadband would make a city ultra competitive. In the ultra competitive EU, this will make Denmark more competitive. Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
mdellingJul 2, 2010
Except they aren't offering it for free.
zerobriersJul 4, 2010
I guess I needed to explain that my comment was inspired by, but different from the article. I underestimated the small leap people could make. my bad.
stubearJul 3, 2010
Except it's not free. The money comes from, in this case, tax payers. So you'd be forcing people to pay for internet access whether or not they wanted it. This is a very slippery slope and with people like you out there the bottom is still a long ways away.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
zerobriersJul 4, 2010
I'm simply suggesting that in a competitive marketplace, attracting people costs money. Cities spend money on tourism (and that money isn't "free", tax payers in the cities pay for that whether they want tourists or not).
As for people like me...I don't get that. Roads aren't free. Non drivers are forced to pay for roads. So I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm talking about spending money to attract people. Yes, it taxes, but I think it's fear mongering to suggest this is a slippery slope.
janineeeJul 2, 2010
I dugg this just because I am hoping for more rants along the lines of
"Who made broadband a god-given right derp derp"
teacher2beJul 3, 2010
Derp thing needs to die already.
k3rfuffl3Jul 3, 2010
Derp will stop when the people it's used against stop being retarded.
drakenkingJul 3, 2010
derp
evanftJul 3, 2010
f**k yeah porn!
digg2point0Jul 3, 2010
Damn socialists!
ptfoeJul 3, 2010
exactly so un-American of them
rebeldreamJul 3, 2010
This is the best thing about Finland other than Sonata Arctica!
ageofmasteryJul 3, 2010
For those who haven't had the pleasure of experiencing Sonata Artica
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pioL1uaGJ4M
lormendiJul 3, 2010
Finntroll!!!!!
jessie1024Jul 3, 2010
Seen Sonata Arctica live, was a fantastic show :D
kennykljJul 3, 2010
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Closed AccountJul 3, 2010
We don't have usage caps.
hipmanJul 3, 2010
Wheres my Internet??.Stop pressing me!!.
Closed AccountJul 3, 2010
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bytecolorJul 3, 2010
Oh really Mr Smarty Socialist Pants. Well here in the USA our textbooks are being rewritten by religious fanatics. Take that!
lormendiJul 3, 2010
Don't know why people are digging this down. What he describes is actually happening.
Sorry if I missed some inverse sarcasm or something....
menoyouJul 3, 2010
This is stupid. Idiots like Obama want to run lines all over the country which is inefficient in more ways than one. If the market was more free you'd see wireless technologies soon catch up to wired technologies. With technology like 4G, we are nearly there. Instead of spending all that money running costly and soon-to-be obsoleted wire, you can just put the money into research for wireless.
But who am I to know? Government knows best! /liberalismComment is buried, click here to see the rest.
ymegJul 3, 2010
Are you serious?
ymegJul 3, 2010
"soon-to-be obsoleted wire"
???
Closed AccountJul 3, 2010
Do you understand networking in any way, shape, or form?
menoyouJul 3, 2010
I do, do you? Do you not understand economics either?
baphclassJul 3, 2010
Herp derp derp liberals herp derp
jasmareeJul 3, 2010
Obama's making decisions for Finland? The tyrannical fiend!
lormendiJul 3, 2010
How are you going to provide wireless to rural areas without running hard line to a wireless hub?
f**k off with your partisan bulls**t.
rudegarJul 3, 2010
gratz you're about the only buried d00d who seem to understand that it's not free internet they are pushing
koirakuenJul 3, 2010
how can this tiny country do this when maybe most of the people in there cant pay for it anyway
hakkolaJul 3, 2010
What the f**k are you talking about? You might want to read a little about the Finnish economy.
koirakuenJul 3, 2010
why
tallestskilJul 3, 2010
Because then you'd see what a worthless idiot you are.
akneelerJul 3, 2010
1MB 3G wireless broadband connection without usage cap costs about 10 euros a month in Finland, so that´s hardly an issue with anybody living there.
scy1192Jul 3, 2010
This was on Digg months ago. The article is even dated March.
???
shalinshaunJul 3, 2010
Digg is the future.
agentfalconJul 3, 2010
The law goes into effect now in july. I guess they chose to just rerun the story.
Closed AccountJul 3, 2010
Cry more scy1192?
kthxbai
Closed AccountJul 3, 2010
I love my 'Finiards' but this is kinda ridiculous.
tsteenbuJul 3, 2010
"Finland has it all..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGWqtwhS2KY
j_carcinogenJul 3, 2010
OLD
lormendiJul 3, 2010
European Socialist Democracies > The United States
*dons fireproof suit*
stochioJul 3, 2010
Troll.
lormendiJul 3, 2010
I'm actually half-serious. Norway and Sweden are fine examples of this. Now, if they could only stop the flow of Islamic fascists into their countries they'd be perfect.
Closed AccountJul 3, 2010
Only a collectivist would surmise it is a right to have something that was only friggin invented 15 years ago.
rudegarJul 3, 2010
you missed the point it's not a right to get but a right to be able to buy
rudegarJul 3, 2010
sensational headline is sensational!
Closed AccountJul 3, 2010
yeh, wont be happening in australia.
taltorisJul 3, 2010
This is stupid. Rights are given by nature and nature's God, not governments. Every child is born free. There are no non-negative rights.
Besides, everybody knows how techno-socialism turns out in the end:
http://fandomania.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/borg2.jpgComment is buried, click here to see the rest.
taltorisJul 3, 2010
You need to read up on natural rights. I suggest John Locke's 2nd Treatise on Government.
nbmediaJul 3, 2010
From Wikiquotes <http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech>
I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
* Evelyn Beatrice Hall, Ch. 7 : Helvetius : The Contradiction, p. 199
Strange it is that men should admit the validity of the arguments for free speech but object to their being "pushed to an extreme", not seeing that unless the reasons are good for an extreme case, they are not good for any case.
* John Stuart Mill, 'On Liberty' Ch. 2, Mill (1985). On Liberty. Penguin. pp. p. 108.
nbmediaJul 3, 2010
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech
* Strange it is that men should admit the validity of the arguments for free speech but object to their being "pushed to an extreme",
not seeing that unless the reasons are good for an extreme case, they are not good for any case.
o John Stuart Mill, 'On Liberty' Ch. 2, Mill (1985). On Liberty. Penguin. pp. p. 108.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
fdr2010Jul 4, 2010
It should be everywhere, maybe something for a European law?