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gooliaJul 1, 2010
That's great! Apple needs to take responsibility!
bigtime2Jul 1, 2010
Every company needs to take responsibility! (not an iPhone user)
ryan850Jul 1, 2010
Now can they sue Apple for making them look like douche bags?
ishiguroJul 1, 2010
I have to hold it in a ridiculous way in order to recreate the "problem"
kreatre2007Jul 2, 2010
It's stupid. No one that I know who has an iPhone 4 has had reception issues. For me, it's been flawless. This lawsuit is frivolous.
Closed AccountJul 1, 2010
What, again? They were already sued once today...
http://digg.com/apple/iPhone_4_Class_Action_Suit_Filed_Against_Apple_and_AT_T
serif69Jul 1, 2010
Twice, actually.
http://digg.com/apple/Class_Action_Lawsuit_Filed_Against_Apple_Over_iPhone_4
screenagedJul 1, 2010
I guess the Apple..
*puts on glasses*
doesn't fall far from the tree..
zmqpJul 1, 2010
YEA - *signal lost*
velnichJul 1, 2010
The fanboys are in enough of a rage that they'll digg up every article covering the lawsuit and ignore common sense regarding the matter.
seltaeb4Jul 1, 2010
Which raises the question: how pathetic must one be to be an *Android* fanboy?
They are only defined by their hatred of Apple, not because of the merits of Android.
Closed AccountJul 1, 2010
The Apple fanboys are in a rage because their beloved company is being criticised.
Diddums. They put out a dud and must deal with it.
wildJul 1, 2010
[The Apple fanboys are in a rage because their beloved company is being criticised.]
Your logic. It sucks.
drunkinbdaJul 1, 2010
:P this is the best (or the only good) version of "dupe post" i've seen!! well done
velnichJul 1, 2010
Lawsuits? Really? Suck it up. Being an early adopter doesn't come without penalties. Next time wait a week or two.
willrsJul 1, 2010
this is the 4th iphone, and apple raved about how their "new" antenna design would improve call quality and reception. they deserve the lawsuit.
velnichJul 1, 2010
"deserve the lawsuit"?
No, they deserve poor sales #s and bad reviews.
shnowdoggieJul 2, 2010
BS. This country already has to many blood sucking lawyers. (Not saying that all are) If someone is not happy why not just return the phone? Or sell it at a higher price to someone else who wants it?
jeffduppJul 1, 2010
Or Apple could have just released a product without an obvious critical flaw
Closed AccountJul 1, 2010
This is the 4th freaking version of the iPhone. Apple got themselves into this mess when they chose form over function when they were doing the industrial design.
Sometimes it actually pays to listen to the engineers...
spiralspiritJul 1, 2010
there's a faulty product released and the company doesn't have the guts to issue a recall. Let them be sued.
hurrayforschoolJul 1, 2010
Major design flaws that emerge immediately after a product's release should be the fault of the company. The only people that should "wait a week or two" are the people who quality tested the phone that can't be held like a phone. Apple should at least respond by offering free cases, instead of acting like the problem lies with the consumers' method of holding it. (If you need more convincing just take a look at how the phone is held in their own commercials.)
velnichJul 1, 2010
@lots of tears
So, return the phone and buy a different one. There's other good phones out there.
kangarouxJul 1, 2010
Don't feed the troll...
picaloJul 1, 2010
OK fanboy.
vincent21212Jul 1, 2010
AHAHAHAAAA
You know, there is a point here: This is probably the end of release-day Apple store lines. Jobs' s**t-for-credibility has finally hit the fan. Chuck your soda at the jerk-offs standing in line for next years iPhone as you pass them by, for they are truly dumb human scum. Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
diggwithaforkJul 1, 2010
Jesus how fast these people turned on them.
picaloJul 1, 2010
no we always hated them...just now the ifaders are finally catching on.
cartisdmJul 1, 2010
Apple will just release a commercial about their "new way to make calls" and everyone will jump on the wagon
keybordcommandoJul 1, 2010
Think different.
greatbigjerkJul 2, 2010
Just make sure to think exactly as different as everyone else.
alexbarnes94Jul 1, 2010
"Finally, a magical hands-free calling device! This is already revolutionizing the market"
zachcrJul 2, 2010
It's magical if you hold it the way we want you too!
djmphotoJul 1, 2010
I like the idea of holding apple responsible for their decisions, but I don't see this going anywhere. The only thing different that I can see from this antenna issue and every other antenna issue is the fact that you can easily identify where the problem is. There are enough examples on the web showing that a ton of other phones have the same issue, the iPhone 4 is just explicitly shown. I can't wait to see what design they come up with next year, I'm guessing a return to the old design, and they call it the iPhone Classic. Or better yet an iPhone completely made out of gorilla glass. Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
Closed AccountJul 1, 2010
Right, so because it happens with other phones, it's ok. So because it's often the case that companies often rip off their customers by refusing to honor rebates elsewhere, we should let off any other company that engages in the same trickery?
s**tty logic.
ineedanewsn1992Jul 1, 2010
And what do Corporations run on again?
Tons of s**t. Their lawyers will wade through that stuff all day.
Closed AccountJul 1, 2010
The difference is that the iPhone has a lot more people complaining. One-off videos of Nokias and HTCs doesn't suggest a problem. Nokia make more phones than Apple, so if they were doing something wrong don't you think it'd be everywhere?
wolferzJul 1, 2010
when fanboyism is involved you can expect a disproportionately large reaction. In this cases there are three factors making the issue bigger than in other cases. Apple fan boys, Android fan boys, and the fact that when you hold the phone normally you get a reception problem
The last point is the most valid one... in most other cases you have to hold the phones in a way that is awkward to have a problem. But in this case normal use produces a problem... significantly increasing the likely hood users will experience it.
Unfortunately that is not the main reason this is being blow out of proportion... for that look to the fanboyism surrounding apple and its competitors.
Closed AccountJul 1, 2010
Nokia phones in my few experience have always been rock solid. I'm not saying my experiences are representative of everyone else's, but even if their smartphones' touchscreen UI isn't the best out there, I'm pretty sure they don't get lawsuits on their arse or mass complaints for phones that constantly drop signals. Either they're covering up such incidents nicely, or they're actually doing about each incident in a manner that placates customers.
vizonJul 1, 2010
I'm sick of the "you bought the phone, return it!" comments. No, the phone is not working as advertised and Apple is not even releasing any official statement in regards of fixing it. All we have to go by are Job's one liners.
zipkoJul 1, 2010
I don't recall it ever being advertised as perfect. That's an image the consumer tagged to the device.
obitusxJul 1, 2010
It's being advertised as being able to be held in your left hand.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/hey-apple-youre-holding-it-wrong/
Closed AccountJul 1, 2010
Perfect? My $40 prepaid phone is far from perfect, and I can make calls with it!
picaloJul 1, 2010
no one said perfect, but they do expect to be able to hold the phone AND make a call...god i know thats just so much to ask from apple. thats like being able to edit videos AND play any video game you want...just asking to much right?
vizonJul 1, 2010
The antenna should at least function properly when holding it. It's a damn phone.
velnichJul 1, 2010
Welcome to the retail industry, you must be new. In the event that you purchase something that doesn't work the way you expect it to, you can return it to the store within a period of time to exchange it for another unit. If it's discovered that all the units suffer from this same problem, then you decide whether you can put up with the problem or return it and buy a different model or brand.
A lawsuit is juvenile.
mabakerbrakerJul 1, 2010
and I am sick of fanboiis like you. The iphone is working fine for the majority of ppl. Like it or not, fanboiidouche.
designetJul 1, 2010
way to hold a grown-up debate....now go buy some sweeties, the adults are talking..
shnowdoggieJul 2, 2010
Do you have one?
nullcodesJul 1, 2010
This lawsuit is frivolous. I'm as much indignant and an Apple hater as the next guy (though I own an iPhone), but come on .. this lawsuit is ridiculous. You can always return the phone, it hasnt been out a week yet.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
zipkoJul 1, 2010
It's fixed by putting a cover over it. If anything, the only response Apple needs to take is giving out free sleeves for it.
mjoeJul 1, 2010
they've already stated that they will not do this
nullcodesJul 1, 2010
fixed by a putting a cover? that destroys the look
Closed AccountJul 1, 2010
It certainly is a fix.
In the same way that Toyota can fix their pedal issues by placing a cover over it so that you can't ever press it.
zipkoJul 1, 2010
@ohreilly
a case for your phone doesn't make it unusable. And Toyota did respond to the break pedal issue by recommending people "put a cover on it". Their recommendation to the fault was to remove the floormat.
It's a simple problem with a simple solution. People are right to be upset about it, but it's not like Apple released an unusable phone. Suck it up, and if you're really that upset then don't ever buy another Apple product.
Closed AccountJul 1, 2010
Only a fanboy would basically say that a bit of rubber (that you have to buy at vast markup) is a *fix*. It isn't a fix, it's a workaround.
zipkoJul 1, 2010
I've never owned an apple product but I have used them every once in a while. I just find it amusing when people make mountains out of molehills. Apple would be smart to fix it quickly though.
BTW, if anyone's having trouble with their phones I saw that putting a piece of tape over the connection fixes it on the cheap.
pilot3033Jul 1, 2010
besides, most of the reviews I've read have been pretty positive: from both Apple loyalists and non-loyalists alike. "antenna issue? not that we've noticed, you need to hold it pretty specifically and TRY to get it to lose bars."
defcobra08Jul 1, 2010
Glad I waited, only making my transfer to Android easier. Can't wait for the X.
http://gizmodo.com/5576702/droid-x-ny-times-ad-sneaks-in-iphone-4-jab
yocouchdiggaJul 2, 2010
A FREAKING HDMI!?
I'm in. This is the one I've been waiting for.
Closed AccountJul 1, 2010
Yes, we know. This is like the 5th new story of this to reach the front page. Stop already!
masomlejnJul 1, 2010
Just avoid holding it that way.
hallisnaJul 1, 2010
Buried. This doesn't need to hit the front page twice in one day.
ravnousJul 1, 2010
FAIL
boozedrinkerJul 1, 2010
They'll take it to court, and Apple's lawyer's will show that other cell phones are susceptible to the same thing, and it will get tossed.
dankbuddzJul 1, 2010
Just another example of bending over the consumer and f**king him RIGHT in the ass.
mabakerbrakerJul 1, 2010
Yeah, cuzz it’s f**king true. Just Android fanboiis want to keep raging about it cuzz their favorite plastic toys are warming the shelves of the Sprint and Verizon stores.
designetJul 1, 2010
not true....YES you're correct that all antennas are affected by holding the area directly around them, but that's the entire reason most people don't put them on the outside.
Since the days of the old retractable-aerials it was known that if you TOUCH the aerial in-call your signal dies...so it's a massively flawed design.
Many phones suffer from the loss of a bar...maybe two...if you hold the area directly around the antenna...putting it on the outside essentially has the potential to totally KILL the reception...as is happening here....becuase by touching it your body essentailly becomes part of the circuit, changing the size and shape of the antenna itself.
It's a design flaw and any prosecution lawyer worth his salt will be able to wipe the floor with that argument just with basic physics-101
itwasonlyajokeJul 1, 2010
What the heck. Steve said they just simply needed to hold it differently.
rrascoJul 1, 2010
i understand sir, just tape the phone to your face and you wont have that problem...we apologize for the inconvenience this may have caused you or your face
itwasonlyajokeJul 1, 2010
mfff wfff wrrf? thrrfff nsnnt wrrrkngg.
designetJul 1, 2010
yeah, exactly.
i've got a Toyota and i understand that if i 'drive different' and don't ever try to accelerate or brake, everything will be fine....don't understand what all the fuss is about.
jswanoatJul 1, 2010
Anyone want to file a class action suit against digg for reposting this so many times?
wreckageJul 1, 2010
Apple release a statement saying that in order to avoid reception issues you should buy a phone on the Verizon network
arkiledotcomJul 1, 2010
haha.. serves the dumb consumers right.. early adopters can eat s**t imo
basicnh21Jul 1, 2010
"Phone calls like you've never seen before."
homercles337Jul 1, 2010
"...misleading advertising..."
Apple? Misleading advertising? NO WAY!
invidious02Jul 1, 2010
Good, they need to be reminded their success is based on their consumers, even if most are close to being brand loyal zombies.
ryebryeJul 1, 2010
"Calls to Apple were not returned. Presumably because their PR department is using the new iPhones and aren't aware of how to hold them yet."
arizonaicedteaJul 1, 2010
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the news about the antenna come out before the phone was released? Making it the responsibility of anyone who purchased it?
designetJul 1, 2010
not unless it was released as a press release or a public statement from Apple.
It was seen as rumour that apple denied (and still do) , therefore it's apple's responsibility.
rrascoJul 1, 2010
the early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese
adml_shakeJul 1, 2010
My whole problem with this, is that Apple sells their stuff as "premium equipment", so to me that should means that I should't have to go out and buy anything to fix a design flaw, they should just ship it to me. End of story. It's not exactly like they are hurting for money and can't afford it.
seltaeb4Jul 1, 2010
The deal is, there is no issue.
Bored journalists are always seeking something to fill their blogs. This is this week's entry.
wildJul 1, 2010
They may be able to fix the issue with software. Is tat is the case, why make an expensive decision to comp free accessories? I wouldn't expect Google to do it either.
wolferzJul 1, 2010
uhm from where i'm sitting there isn't a "deal". apple hasnt yet had time to fix the problem.
in the mean time the fanboys are being wipped into mouth frothing frenzy by each other and the media and its being made into a witch hunt .
apple will "fix" the issue just as they usually do... but now that its become such a big deal most wont see it what way. It will ether not be good enough or it will have taken too long or some other made up issue. Like it or not this is going to be a stain on apples rep no matter what they do at this point.
alexbarnes94Jul 1, 2010
Apple has said that they do not intend to fix the problem. I don't have the link available at the moment, but Steve Jobs told customers that they should "Just avoid holding it that way.", and then he released a notice to his retail stores telling them not to distribute free bumpers for any reason whatsoever. That doesn't sound like "apple will 'fix' the issue just as they usually do", nor does it even sound like "apple hasnt yet had time to fix the problem." They simply don't care, and they don't intend to spend any extra effort or time correcting the problem, since they could easily spend that time selling bumpers for $29, milking a few extra dollars out of the consumers.
roy5000x2Jul 1, 2010
Hmmm...the reception on my Blackberry Storm goes down when I hold it a specific way as well. I guess I should sue RIM.
Closed AccountJul 1, 2010
Suckers! My razr still has perfect reception.
kiwimonkJul 1, 2010
When did everyone get so damned Emo?
wildJul 1, 2010
I blame Tw@light...
nullcodesJul 1, 2010
When you advertise a product, it has to be correct to the understanding of 85% (yes I pulled that number out of the law where else) of people watching the commercial.
If we tried to make it so that every commercial was accurate to the understanding of 100% of the people watching it .. that would mean the disclaimer at the end of the ad would be twice as long as the ad itself. Not to mention businesses will lose money due to having to release boring ads and product announcements.
Closed AccountJul 1, 2010
They should just eat it and recall the lot of them instead of still pretending that nothing is wrong when the entire Apple fan base knows otherwise
sbayJul 1, 2010
It fukin prints money...
I don't care
tumbler360Jul 1, 2010
If you're so unhappy with the phone why not return it? (Seriously) If you bought an iphone and the reception sucks because of this weird antenna issue....return it. People are returning it right? I'm in CA so I can return in first 30 days...you can do that with this phone right? (In california)
ekeefe41Jul 1, 2010
There is a 10% restocking fee and i am willing to bet the 10% will be based on the unsubsidized price.
Would you pay 50-60 restocking fee for something that was defective?
ekeefe41Jul 1, 2010
Well yea, it works that way here too in the US, but Apple is saying that it is not a flaw and works fine....
Actually i take that back, most places will only give you an exchange if something does not work.
s4g4nJul 1, 2010
so you pay like $500 upfront for a phone that sucks as a phone... LOL
dankbuddzJul 1, 2010
...should have gone Andoird... *whistle*
evildeadashJul 2, 2010
...should have gone to Skool... *fart*
quickgold192Jul 1, 2010
Does this work?? If it does, I've got a closet full of s**tty electronics that just became a gold mine.
jceezJul 1, 2010
Can't they just return the phone if they are unhappy with it?
seltaeb4Jul 1, 2010
I hope someone sues Microsoft for 20+ years of s**tty operating systems.
How would you begin to estimate the value of time lost due to Windows f**k-ups?
martinogJul 1, 2010
Some sources are reporting that there is a software patch fro this. I really hate to see these lawsuits filed so quickly! If you don't like the phone, switch to another phone and carrier! It would be better to see the focus on pressuring AT&T to improve it's coverage! IMHO, that's the real issue!
samadams2point0Jul 1, 2010
I said it once, i'm going to say it again, this is gonna be hilarious when the software update comes out and fixes the problem.
zombiesocietyJul 1, 2010
Good God, everyone shut the f**k up and go stand by a window.
ghostykiddJul 1, 2010
just because a corporation shows you flashy images and advertising doesnt mean you go blindy stand in a line with thousands of others who blindly bought into that product either.
point is....corporations..especially giant mega corp like apple dont give a s**t about you.....they will half ass a product sell it to you cause they know you will eat it up....when will we learn? if ever?
psierakJul 1, 2010
Apple and their cult users always make ridiculous statements to defend their products. So annoying.
tjeweyJul 1, 2010
They must be new to AT&T, although I'm not having the issues that everyone else is talking about. My iPhone4 works just fine and I'm not even near a major city. I also think people are jumping on the bandwagon even if their reception is fine, just to see if they can squeeze a little money out of apple by joining in a law suit. Just pitiful.....
evilnecroJul 1, 2010
Anyone with more than 15 seconds of antenna design experience, and even a cursory understanding of how antennas and cell networks operate instantly knows this is all a load of crap. But hey, bloggers and rabid forum posters need to talk about something.
teoJul 2, 2010Staff
post comment yo
syclonefxJul 2, 2010
I haven't experienced any reception issues. The network in Daytona is awesome and I bought a case when I got my iPhone. But you would think Apple knew about this problem. I think thats why the made the Bumpers. They were hoping everyone would buy 1.
workholickimJul 2, 2010
bgr updated their post with full headers and screenshots
And the last relax line was not from jobs.
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/07/01/exclusive-conversation-with-steve-jobs-on-the-iphone-4-antenna-problems/
I think whether they are fake or not, it is telling that they are close enough to his responses of late that it is very plausible...
yeah,
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azimaliJul 2, 2010
This is ridiculous. Im glad i dont have an iphone 4. First of all if you *have* to have a case on your phone to make phone calls then wtf. You cant force a person to buy a case just to be able to use a phone. Secondly everyone who bought an iphone is now stuck in a two year contract with att and paid 200-300 dollars. WTF. Theyre going to end up paying close to 1000 dollars for a phone that cant make calls. And if you want it to make calls then you have to have a case. WTFFFFFFF.Comment is buried, click here to see the rest.
pyroclastic_vikingJul 2, 2010
Probably going to get dugg down but, if you don't like the phone, don't buy it. Go get something else. Stop rushing out on the first day and buy Apple products. They usually come out unfinished and buggy. That statement goes for most companies these days. Testing can get expensive and they place too much concentration on getting the product out before anyone instead of perfecting it more. The only way you will get progress against companies like Apple is to stop buying thier products. If people continue to buy into the iPhone, Apple isn't going to change very easily. I agree that Apple should have done more in house testing but, buying the product then suing them because it sucks doesn't make much sense. Just don't buy it or return it for something else.
maxstaroJul 2, 2010
"relax... it is just a phone." as per Steve Jobs. LOL. Maybe being ill made him want to relax but to the buyers who expect a top notch product from Apple, it is unacceptable.