torrentfreak.com — BitTorrent Inc. is about to launch a completely improved implementation of the BitTorrent protocol that will benefit both users and ISPs. uTorrent 2.0, which is currently being tested by thousands of people, will eliminate the need for ISPs to throttle or stop BitTorrent traffic, and will optimize the download experience for its users.
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crossmrNov 2, 2009
You assume ISPs will change their tune. They won't. The ISP is paying for bandwidth between them and the internet backbone. They want you to use as little of that as possible. The last mile has already been paid for. It costs them the same whether you use it or not. They would be very happy if everyone was paying and not using anything. Do you think those 250 GB caps have anything to do with upload? no. Its download. The connections are asynchronous. Every month people download far more than they upload. Most people use public trackers where ratio is unimportant. So they hit and run, which means very little upload in the long run. This will do absolutely nothing to change ISPs position because people will still be downloading an excessive amount and now, it will be easy for ISPs to throttle, all they need to do is look for any traffic that resembles bittorrent and delay it slightly, utorrent will turn around and automatically throttle everything for them.Brilliant move.
dwatchNov 2, 2009
Yes, "more data per packet", if you understood anything about how network traffic is actually transmitted you would get what this means. Yes, you can transmit both TCP and UDP at the exact same speeds (Kb/sec) down what is essentially a serial line, but since UDP has very little error correction taking up room in that packet, you can get more usable data in the same size packet. Also, UDP has no startup latency, no artificial stalls, window size is not limited to 64k like a TCP packet (in fact, you can have an infinite window size in UDP), and flow control is off loaded to the user space.Basically, UDP is more of a broadcast protocol than a streaming protocol. UDP doesn't have a built-in mechanism to verify every packet made it to its destination, but since the bit torrent protocol automatically checks all incoming blocks against a hash value, and has the ability to request a piece be sent again, most of the downsides of UDP are easily compensated for by the robust bit torrent protocol.Having said that, though, I do think my client not obeying the bandwidth cap is probably a graphing bug, not a throttling bug. The graph might count all packets regardless of whether or not those packets were complete and made it through the hash test and were written to the disk. Since TCP packets are probably going to be intact by the time they are seen by the torrent client (after the network stack verifies them via the TCP's error correction protocol), but UDP packets might not be intact.... the 1.8x client's speed graph might not have a way to separate the UDP traffic from the TCP traffic.
deathfiredNov 2, 2009
Depends on how you look at it undercoverDrunk. They both have their advantages. If you have QoS for your router then by all means turn it on. It's best to set it to treat VoIP and other "sensitive" protocols with the highest level just in case you or people on your network are using programs that can backup the routers packet queue such as bittorrent. uTP is basically there to help alleviate the problem further just in case, not to mention it helps people that don't have QoS. It senses when it's packets are starting to cause problems and throttles it's upload stream to prevent the problem from effecting other applications in your network. Ideally the two should work hand in hand.
Closed AccountNov 3, 2009
uTorrent FTW<a class="user" href="http://www.utorrent.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.utorrent.com/</a>
jessterkingNov 4, 2009
we should just start executing CEOs who don't put enough of their profits back into the infrastructure
jessterkingNov 4, 2009
I like how this comment has more diggs than the story its self.
xnaquadaNov 11, 2009
1mb not 1MB.Its not that fast.
trustlerNov 14, 2009
by the way, the ISP increased our internet connection.. for the same price.. <a class="user" href="http://starnet.md/" rel="nofollow">http://starnet.md/</a>
Closed AccountNov 20, 2009
Not that it's any secret, but ATT throttles here in Atlanta, even with the $99 per month "7 Meg" business plan. My downloads go to zero every 10 minutes just like clockwork. Then they shoot back up- typically to advertised speeds, around 5-6 Meg, and slowly degrade again....