@ExSlashdotter: Very nice. Buy all your employees a phone with a fullscreen LCD and built-in iPod Video so they can watch all their movies and porn and listen to their music. Wow, what a business plan.So just STFU, the business people are not interested in a candy-ass device like the iPhone, it's a hipster-and-teenage thing.
guys, i always want to say this but being quite lazy about it...ok let me spit this out:1. On Cingular lock/unlock:I bought a BlackBerry in Feb, after 28 days, exchanged it for a HTC?, after one day, realized how f**king horrible that windows s**t was, exchanged again for a brand new BlackBerry (8700c). Both times when I got my BlackBerry, Cingular happily unlocked my phone upon request. I simply called, asked that I need to unlock my phone because I travel to Asia once a year, and they took my email and sent me the instruction within a day.Moral of the story: Stop bitching about Cingular's locking of phone. If you ask nicely, in my experience, they will unlock the phone for you.By the way, I unlock it so I can use a foreign SIM card in Asia, not because I need to use t-Mobile.2. Cingualr has good service. I believe partly is how powerful and carciogenic BlackBerry is, because I always have superb signals compared w/ other people, other networks, or even other Cingular phones. I have been using Cingular since 2002 and it hasn't given me problem. (I lived in Midwest and now in the South.)3. Is unlocking that important?I recently went to Asian and used Cingular international roaming. Yes, it's expensive, but considering I only do that 1~2 times a year, and I keep it to the minimum (I will call someone and ask that person to call to my hotel), I think Cingular pretty much offer a complete package for its customers. It's better than if your phone go dead once you are outside of the USA. I always feel good when my cingualr blackberry simply works in other countries, including text messages!Yes, it costed me like $40 bucks for the whole trip, but if you get a forein SIM card, it's not free either.
I can't get over how silly the comments are about the iPhone.No matter which carrier they chose, people would bitch. They could have used everyone, but if they're going to sell this in the rest of the world GSM is the way to go. Cingular simply covers more physical area than T-Mobile. I have used all 4 different major carriers, and Nextel when they were separate. I don't think anyone is happy with ANY of them. In my experience, T-Mobile is more liberal with data plans, but is behind in 3G rollout. Verizon handicaps the s**t out of their phones, but has fast Internet all over the place.I've read people here claim that the phone will just get ripped off. Maybe, but it is protected by patents to a large extent. Though, yes, things like visual voice mail will probably start to come out even before the iPhone!I've also see so much hate directed at Apple, and their "fanboys." Well, I guess you have to count me in. I guess that's better than being a M$ fanboy. I personally use many different platforms. I liked Windows the least, but it does have its place.If you're dying to use your iPhone on the allegedly superior T-Mobile, just buy a European one, hack it, or wait. It will happen. The next models will have 3G (something I am waiting for to replace my 8525) according to Jobs's keynote and the engineer I talked to at the MacWorld booth.Anyway--just remember what people like us thought about the iPod---that it was lame, and people would just get generic MP3 players. Well, we know how that turned out. This product isn't aimed at us. It's aimed at people who don't like their phones. s**t, people like us love 'em. We love gadgets. I even like my miserable 8525 because it's faaast.
I dunno about some of you people. So much hatred towards things and making things into such binary arguements.The iPhone has some pretty wicked stuff happening. You might wanna check out the keynote before you start talking about it. Some thing have been seen in phones before but a LOT has not. The interface looks pretty sweet and the integration with OS X will be second to none.Cingular has this phone, no more complaining about. it. They have a huge market and lots of power behind them. My estimation is that GSM and the cooperation between them won over Verizon, who certainly wanted to control ever 1 and 0 the processor processed. T-Mobile is the little guy on the block. I have them and even though I choose Apple leaps and bounds ahead of ANY other OS, I won't sacrifice my T-Mobile loyalty to Cingular. One, while T-Mo doesn't have the galactic coverage that Cingular has, hhere T-Mobile has coverage it is almost perfect. Besides, I'm never in the sticks so in metro areas they really are good. I've been all over the US and only once, in a town of 1014 people (seriously) did I not get a great signal... and if I went 1/2 mile east, I'd get that great signal. I could switch to Cingular tomorrow but for me to get what I'm getting on TMo , I'll *literally* have to spend and extra $80 a month. The only thing Cingular has over T-Mobile is the iPhone and coverage. And like I said, those aren't good enough for $80 a month more. I've done the Cingular bit and it wasn't a great experience.The iPhone is very cool, but even being the "fanboy" that I am, I still have my eye on the Blackberry 8800 cuz BB's are really great devices. Maybe won't have all the fancy multimedia stuff the iPhone will have, but it'll be a great device nonetheless. I say we all just chill and see what happens when it is released. There is still MUCH we don't know about it.
h2d2Jan 13, 2007
@ExSlashdotter: Very nice. Buy all your employees a phone with a fullscreen LCD and built-in iPod Video so they can watch all their movies and porn and listen to their music. Wow, what a business plan.So just STFU, the business people are not interested in a candy-ass device like the iPhone, it's a hipster-and-teenage thing.
underskyJan 13, 2007
guys, i always want to say this but being quite lazy about it...ok let me spit this out:1. On Cingular lock/unlock:I bought a BlackBerry in Feb, after 28 days, exchanged it for a HTC?, after one day, realized how f**king horrible that windows s**t was, exchanged again for a brand new BlackBerry (8700c). Both times when I got my BlackBerry, Cingular happily unlocked my phone upon request. I simply called, asked that I need to unlock my phone because I travel to Asia once a year, and they took my email and sent me the instruction within a day.Moral of the story: Stop bitching about Cingular's locking of phone. If you ask nicely, in my experience, they will unlock the phone for you.By the way, I unlock it so I can use a foreign SIM card in Asia, not because I need to use t-Mobile.2. Cingualr has good service. I believe partly is how powerful and carciogenic BlackBerry is, because I always have superb signals compared w/ other people, other networks, or even other Cingular phones. I have been using Cingular since 2002 and it hasn't given me problem. (I lived in Midwest and now in the South.)3. Is unlocking that important?I recently went to Asian and used Cingular international roaming. Yes, it's expensive, but considering I only do that 1~2 times a year, and I keep it to the minimum (I will call someone and ask that person to call to my hotel), I think Cingular pretty much offer a complete package for its customers. It's better than if your phone go dead once you are outside of the USA. I always feel good when my cingualr blackberry simply works in other countries, including text messages!Yes, it costed me like $40 bucks for the whole trip, but if you get a forein SIM card, it's not free either.
stormjJan 13, 2007
I can't get over how silly the comments are about the iPhone.No matter which carrier they chose, people would bitch. They could have used everyone, but if they're going to sell this in the rest of the world GSM is the way to go. Cingular simply covers more physical area than T-Mobile. I have used all 4 different major carriers, and Nextel when they were separate. I don't think anyone is happy with ANY of them. In my experience, T-Mobile is more liberal with data plans, but is behind in 3G rollout. Verizon handicaps the s**t out of their phones, but has fast Internet all over the place.I've read people here claim that the phone will just get ripped off. Maybe, but it is protected by patents to a large extent. Though, yes, things like visual voice mail will probably start to come out even before the iPhone!I've also see so much hate directed at Apple, and their "fanboys." Well, I guess you have to count me in. I guess that's better than being a M$ fanboy. I personally use many different platforms. I liked Windows the least, but it does have its place.If you're dying to use your iPhone on the allegedly superior T-Mobile, just buy a European one, hack it, or wait. It will happen. The next models will have 3G (something I am waiting for to replace my 8525) according to Jobs's keynote and the engineer I talked to at the MacWorld booth.Anyway--just remember what people like us thought about the iPod---that it was lame, and people would just get generic MP3 players. Well, we know how that turned out. This product isn't aimed at us. It's aimed at people who don't like their phones. s**t, people like us love 'em. We love gadgets. I even like my miserable 8525 because it's faaast.
ispcasterJan 13, 2007
Always wait for 2nd gen.. Always.
ceejam88Jan 13, 2007
Hell yea, I'm glad i have Cingular. Shove it up ya butts Verizon bitches.
ahmerhussainJan 13, 2007
no it would not...
ahmerhussainJan 13, 2007
Can't you just buy this with NO CONTRACT?Like for instance, from eBay?
ajendusJan 14, 2007
I dunno about some of you people. So much hatred towards things and making things into such binary arguements.The iPhone has some pretty wicked stuff happening. You might wanna check out the keynote before you start talking about it. Some thing have been seen in phones before but a LOT has not. The interface looks pretty sweet and the integration with OS X will be second to none.Cingular has this phone, no more complaining about. it. They have a huge market and lots of power behind them. My estimation is that GSM and the cooperation between them won over Verizon, who certainly wanted to control ever 1 and 0 the processor processed. T-Mobile is the little guy on the block. I have them and even though I choose Apple leaps and bounds ahead of ANY other OS, I won't sacrifice my T-Mobile loyalty to Cingular. One, while T-Mo doesn't have the galactic coverage that Cingular has, hhere T-Mobile has coverage it is almost perfect. Besides, I'm never in the sticks so in metro areas they really are good. I've been all over the US and only once, in a town of 1014 people (seriously) did I not get a great signal... and if I went 1/2 mile east, I'd get that great signal. I could switch to Cingular tomorrow but for me to get what I'm getting on TMo , I'll *literally* have to spend and extra $80 a month. The only thing Cingular has over T-Mobile is the iPhone and coverage. And like I said, those aren't good enough for $80 a month more. I've done the Cingular bit and it wasn't a great experience.The iPhone is very cool, but even being the "fanboy" that I am, I still have my eye on the Blackberry 8800 cuz BB's are really great devices. Maybe won't have all the fancy multimedia stuff the iPhone will have, but it'll be a great device nonetheless. I say we all just chill and see what happens when it is released. There is still MUCH we don't know about it.
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