tech-recipes.com— Benefits of the new ZFS 128-bit filesystem for Solaris and eventually Linux and OSX. Links to detailed configuration information and download. "So easy your mom could administer it."
Jun 20, 2006View in Crawl 4
The last Solaris Fanboy I met was the Arctitecht when I was trying to destroy the Matrix, he did say something about ZFS and that Linux would one day take over Microsoft's part of the market and that the Matrix was running Debian. I couldn't talk longer because I had to go save Trinity, good times....
I haven't yet wasted any of my data on Reiser4, but I've lost partitions to every previous version of ReiserFS since 1998 or so. I lost an XFS partition, too, although I suspect in that case the HD was silently dying and Ext3 just handled it better than XFS did. Either way, all my partitions are Ext3 now, although I may try ZFS once it makes it into the official Linux kernel.
"They're a failing company ... trying to make all their projects sound shiny so they seem to investors like they are on the ball."Like Microsoft. No, like Apple. No, like... umm... Novell. Yeah, like Novell."It does integrity checking on every file. This is great unless you like performance."FAT16 FTW? Very high performance, then. Every filing system does error checking to some degree."if your file becomes corrupt ... it kernel panics"Then why does it bother doing integrity checking?
Where are the real world performance comparisons of ZFS? I would like to see ZFS stacked against EXT3, reiserfs3 and resierfs4. This sounds like hype with nothing to back it up. I work at a fortune 500, Linux has always out performed Solaris in everything we have used it for. To get similar performance from Sparc/Solaris, we have to drop a _ton_ of cash on the Sparc hardware. No thanks.
@abuser:Smart systems design means using the right kind of machine for the purpose. If the machine doesn't need to be blazing fast, then all the money you'd spend on a more powerful machine is wasted. If you can squeeze a little more filesystem performance out of a lower end machine, that means that there are going to be more machines out there capable of doing the job, meaning that old machine you decomissioned because it wasn't up to snuff for one job, and wasn't up to snuff for some filesystem intensive job, may be perfectly adequate if coupled with ZFS.Plus, if you can get more performance out of a lower-end machine, you can get more performance out of a higher end machine. All in all, this sounds like a great product sun has.
lyzzJun 20, 2006
ZFS is the combination of a volume manager and a filesystem. Probably the coolest benefit to this is that it can do varible stripe sizes. This is an issue with raid5. It can also tell you if a drive is failing "silently" (ex a few sectors at a time).More info<a class="user" href="http://www.sun.com/2004-0914/feature/">http://www.sun.com/2004-0914/feature/</a>
titlesaysitallJun 21, 2006
The last Solaris Fanboy I met was the Arctitecht when I was trying to destroy the Matrix, he did say something about ZFS and that Linux would one day take over Microsoft's part of the market and that the Matrix was running Debian. I couldn't talk longer because I had to go save Trinity, good times....
whovianJun 21, 2006
I've got this page bookmarked showing a comparison of filesystems:<a class="user" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem</a>
eviltakJun 21, 2006
I haven't yet wasted any of my data on Reiser4, but I've lost partitions to every previous version of ReiserFS since 1998 or so. I lost an XFS partition, too, although I suspect in that case the HD was silently dying and Ext3 just handled it better than XFS did. Either way, all my partitions are Ext3 now, although I may try ZFS once it makes it into the official Linux kernel.
webcrumbJun 21, 2006
"They're a failing company ... trying to make all their projects sound shiny so they seem to investors like they are on the ball."Like Microsoft. No, like Apple. No, like... umm... Novell. Yeah, like Novell."It does integrity checking on every file. This is great unless you like performance."FAT16 FTW? Very high performance, then. Every filing system does error checking to some degree."if your file becomes corrupt ... it kernel panics"Then why does it bother doing integrity checking?
Closed AccountJun 21, 2006
If Linux is so behind ...where's Windows? ... not even born yet ...
pizzzaJun 21, 2006
You got the last line wrong; good song though.
jimdageekJun 21, 2006
Where are the real world performance comparisons of ZFS? I would like to see ZFS stacked against EXT3, reiserfs3 and resierfs4. This sounds like hype with nothing to back it up. I work at a fortune 500, Linux has always out performed Solaris in everything we have used it for. To get similar performance from Sparc/Solaris, we have to drop a _ton_ of cash on the Sparc hardware. No thanks.
sp1nm0nkeyJun 21, 2006
@abuser:Smart systems design means using the right kind of machine for the purpose. If the machine doesn't need to be blazing fast, then all the money you'd spend on a more powerful machine is wasted. If you can squeeze a little more filesystem performance out of a lower end machine, that means that there are going to be more machines out there capable of doing the job, meaning that old machine you decomissioned because it wasn't up to snuff for one job, and wasn't up to snuff for some filesystem intensive job, may be perfectly adequate if coupled with ZFS.Plus, if you can get more performance out of a lower-end machine, you can get more performance out of a higher end machine. All in all, this sounds like a great product sun has.