arstechnica.com— The SFWA, which represents science fiction and fantasy authors, has demanded that a web site remove "infringing" content like sci-fi reading lists, Creative Commons-licensed books, and more.
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Wrong, there are two types of poetry worse than Vogon poetry. The second worst being that of Azgoths of Kria and the very worst being that of Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings of Greenbridge, Essex, England but her and her poetry were destroyed along with Earth.
Comment Hijack: aburt@tech-soft.com That's the e-mail address of the chair of the Copyright Issues committee, Andrew Burt. E-mail him and let him know how you feel.I plan on asking for a list of all SFWA members so I can promptly stop purchasing their works.<a class="user" href="http://www.sfwa.org/org/contacts.htm">http://www.sfwa.org/org/contacts.htm</a>
To be clear, Scribd doesn't pirate anything, Users upload documents, Scribd hosts documents. Setting aside the question of whether 'pirated' documents actually costs anybody any real money (see John Scalzi's argument of a couple of years ago, here: <a class="user" href="http://www.scalzi.com/whatever/003538),">http://www.scalzi.com/whatever/003538),</a> I think a common sense middle ground here is to make it as easy for an author to take down pirated versions of their works as it is for users to upload them. And authors should be able to easily register their wishes with Scribd whether entire works of theirs should be allowed to be uploaded at all. Scribd is still a young service, and all this is still shaking out, however Jerry Pournelle's vitriol against Scribd and Cory Doctorow is just sad. You'd think that a forward-thinking SF author of his stature would be able to see that the future is already here, and is different than what he is used to. Some people find it profit to give their works away, and Scribd is great for that. As a small press operator caught up in all this, we are more concerned with obscurity than with 'piracy', so we give our product away. We want people to find our publication, and we want to garner as many eyeballs as we can for our artists and authors. Times change, and we need to change with it.Johne CookOverlord, Ray Gun Revival magazine<a class="user" href="http://raygunrevival.com">http://raygunrevival.com</a>
I'd look at the people wielding those taketown notices for an answer to that question. In this case, I'd bet that Andrew Burt relied a bit too much on his "clever detection algorithm" and didn't even read the full list of works he claimed were infringing.
Every debate I've ever read on his site he gave the other side all the time and space they wanted to air thier views. Very few people ever change anyones opinion in anything. Do you have a specific criticism of what he said about the case in question?
jerry pournelle a forward thinking sf author ? he was not cool in the eighties, and not very forward thinking then, now he's just old school trying to hang on to the gravy train.just another mote in gods eye :)
averyhoopyfroodAug 31, 2007
Wrong, there are two types of poetry worse than Vogon poetry. The second worst being that of Azgoths of Kria and the very worst being that of Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings of Greenbridge, Essex, England but her and her poetry were destroyed along with Earth.
nsmikeAug 31, 2007
Comment Hijack: aburt@tech-soft.com That's the e-mail address of the chair of the Copyright Issues committee, Andrew Burt. E-mail him and let him know how you feel.I plan on asking for a list of all SFWA members so I can promptly stop purchasing their works.<a class="user" href="http://www.sfwa.org/org/contacts.htm">http://www.sfwa.org/org/contacts.htm</a>
docwho76Aug 31, 2007
If takedown notices are so easy to make then how come all we ever see stories about is how DMCA takedown notices were bungled?
phydoAug 31, 2007
To be clear, Scribd doesn't pirate anything, Users upload documents, Scribd hosts documents. Setting aside the question of whether 'pirated' documents actually costs anybody any real money (see John Scalzi's argument of a couple of years ago, here: <a class="user" href="http://www.scalzi.com/whatever/003538),">http://www.scalzi.com/whatever/003538),</a> I think a common sense middle ground here is to make it as easy for an author to take down pirated versions of their works as it is for users to upload them. And authors should be able to easily register their wishes with Scribd whether entire works of theirs should be allowed to be uploaded at all. Scribd is still a young service, and all this is still shaking out, however Jerry Pournelle's vitriol against Scribd and Cory Doctorow is just sad. You'd think that a forward-thinking SF author of his stature would be able to see that the future is already here, and is different than what he is used to. Some people find it profit to give their works away, and Scribd is great for that. As a small press operator caught up in all this, we are more concerned with obscurity than with 'piracy', so we give our product away. We want people to find our publication, and we want to garner as many eyeballs as we can for our artists and authors. Times change, and we need to change with it.Johne CookOverlord, Ray Gun Revival magazine<a class="user" href="http://raygunrevival.com">http://raygunrevival.com</a>
entropymanSep 1, 2007
I'd look at the people wielding those taketown notices for an answer to that question. In this case, I'd bet that Andrew Burt relied a bit too much on his "clever detection algorithm" and didn't even read the full list of works he claimed were infringing.
majorkerinaSep 1, 2007
I want to have Cory Doctorow's children
Closed AccountSep 1, 2007
Every debate I've ever read on his site he gave the other side all the time and space they wanted to air thier views. Very few people ever change anyones opinion in anything. Do you have a specific criticism of what he said about the case in question?
jacquesmSep 3, 2007
jerry pournelle a forward thinking sf author ? he was not cool in the eighties, and not very forward thinking then, now he's just old school trying to hang on to the gravy train.just another mote in gods eye :)
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